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Meisterjager Jagermeister
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Posted - 2015.09.14 14:15:00 -
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I have a modestly fit Assault G/1. I had it fit with a GEK because a DUVOLLE is too taxing.
But I can fit it with: -CARTHUM ascr -ISHUKONE arr -SIX KIN acr
All of them are the other race's assault rifle knock-offs... at PROTO level! It is bad enough the AR under performs tier to tier with the other assaults, but I can one up it with proto at a cheaper resource cost.
I have EVERY passive cpu/pg boosting skill MAXED OUT!!! But I can only fit an advanced AR. Proto every other assault variant: no problem. But only an advanced AR.
But wait, there's MORE! I can also fit -BOUNDLESS cr - freakin LUIS MODIFIED cr!!!!!!!
OH, I'm not done yet! I can fit a FRIGGIN EXPERIMENTAL ASSAULT COMBAT FRIGGIN RIFLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WITH 6/6 CPU/PG TO SPARE!
But only an advanced AR. On a gallente assault.
Why CCP? Why?
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.14 14:19:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:I have a modestly fit Assault G/1. I had it fit with a GEK because a DUVOLLE is too taxing. But I can fit it with: -CARTHUM ascr -ISHUKONE arr -SIX KIN acr All of them are the other race's assault rifle knock-offs... at PROTO level! It is bad enough the AR under performs tier to tier with the other assaults, but I can one up it with proto at a cheaper resource cost. I have EVERY passive cpu/pg boosting skill MAXED OUT!!! But I can only fit an advanced AR. Proto every other assault variant: no problem. But only an advanced AR. But wait, there's MORE! I can also fit -BOUNDLESS cr - freakin LUIS MODIFIED cr!!!!!!! OH, I'm not done yet! I can fit a FRIGGIN EXPERIMENTAL ASSAULT COMBAT FRIGGIN RIFLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WITH 6/6 CPU/PG TO SPARE! But only an advanced AR. On a gallente assault. Why CCP? Why? ...wow.
That's...that sucks.
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Joel II X
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Posted - 2015.09.14 14:21:00 -
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I thought the Carthum costed more?
That aside, I can fit everything proto (including a Kincat) on my Gk.0.
Only thing I had to sacrifice was the Grenade and equipment slots.
EDIT: The proto and 'new' officer weapons cost the same, same with experimental.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.09.14 14:28:00 -
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Although I don't have the numbers with me, I'm inclined to call bullshit.
Unless fitting costs for the carthum and ARR were reduced sometime in the past couple of weeks (escaping my notice) they're vastly higher than for the GEK.
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.09.14 14:44:00 -
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An advanced assault scrambler rifle costs one more cpu and double the pg of a GEK.
An advanced assault rail rifle costs a little less cpu and double the pg of a GEK. |
Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.14 14:45:00 -
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Officer varients have the pro stats (pg/CPU)
I think your fitting it wrong. It should fit.
What's your fit??? The true Gallente assault fit is the following-
High- damage mods Lows- Kincat, 2 ferroscale, 2 rep Ar and ip Flux Scanner (equip can be whatever but I like scanner cuz Gallente)
It should all fit. If not..... Do you have the skill to proto? Or at least 4?
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
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Posted - 2015.09.14 14:55:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Although I don't have the numbers with me, I'm inclined to call bullshit.. Really? Because I have nothing better to do than spam a video game forum with bullshit.
Duvolle 90/13 Carthum 83/15 Ishukone 77/14 Six Kin 78/8
Its the CPU that prevents the fit.
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
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Posted - 2015.09.14 15:06:00 -
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My fit:
Assault G/1
CX Plate 2x Enh Plate Basic rep Enh Damp
CX Precision 2x Krin's LEX
A-19 Scanner
Core Locus SK9M bsg Carthum
EHP 928
Max CPU/PG 333/62 Used 330/61 With Duvolle 334/59
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Rinzler XVII
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.09.14 15:43:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:I have a modestly fit Assault G/1. I had it fit with a GEK because a DUVOLLE is too taxing. But I can fit the SAME loadout with: -CARTHUM ascr -ISHUKONE arr -SIX KIN acr All of them are the other race's assault rifle knock-offs... at PROTO level! It is bad enough the AR under performs tier to tier with the other assaults, but I can one up it with proto at a cheaper resource cost. I have EVERY passive cpu/pg boosting skill MAXED OUT!!! But I can only fit an advanced AR. Proto every other assault variant: no problem. But only an advanced AR. But wait, there's MORE! I can also fit -BOUNDLESS cr - freakin LUIS MODIFIED cr!!!!!!! OH, I'm not done yet! I can fit a FRIGGIN EXPERIMENTAL ASSAULT COMBAT FRIGGIN RIFLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WITH 6/6 CPU/PG TO SPARE! But only an advanced AR. On a gallente assault. Why CCP? Why?
Fitting pro weapons on a standard suit... That's why...
Everything you said just shows you have no idea about the basics of this game plus minmitar has less fitting costs because that's there racial trait
Ps you can fit a pro weapon on a g-1 if you sacrifice other slots so.change your other modules.. Idiot
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Vesta Opalus
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.14 16:02:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Although I don't have the numbers with me, I'm inclined to call bullshit.. Really? Because I have nothing better to do than spam a video game forum with bullshit. Duvolle 90/13 Carthum 83/15 Ishukone 77/14 Six Kin 78/8 Its the CPU that prevents the fit.
If you really want to get frustrated by high CPU costs, try fitting regen onto a low tier shield suit. |
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
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Posted - 2015.09.14 16:08:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:
Fitting pro weapons on a standard suit... That's why...
Everything you said just shows you have no idea about the basics of this game plus minmitar has less fitting costs because that's there racial trait
Ps you can fit a pro weapon on a g-1 if you sacrifice other slots so.change your other modules.. Idiot
No.
All of that. No. (especially that mean stuff )
You miss the point. It is a demonstration of yet another reason why AR is inferior. CPU cost is too high. I have to sacrifice other slots ONLY when I want to fit a Duvolle... on a Gallenete Assault.
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Thumb Green
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Posted - 2015.09.14 16:14:00 -
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You say your CPU/PG boosting skills are maxed; but is your Light Weapons and GAssault skills maxed?
Nice to see the community is still mostly just a bag of dicks.
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
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Posted - 2015.09.14 16:20:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:You say your CPU/PG boosting skills are maxed; but is your Light Weapons and GAssault skills maxed? Gall Ass, Light Weapons Operation, Sidearm Operation, Explosives, Handheld Weapon Upgrades, Core Skills; all at 5.
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.09.14 16:37:00 -
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Your fit is ugly. And you're using an advanced suit, why do you expect to fit a proto weapon on it ? This complex plate is taking all your Pg/cpu away.
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Thumb Green
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Posted - 2015.09.14 16:40:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:Thumb Green wrote:You say your CPU/PG boosting skills are maxed; but is your Light Weapons and GAssault skills maxed? Gall Ass, Light Weapons Operation, Sidearm Operation, Explosives, Handheld Weapon Upgrades, Core Skills; all at 5. My bad, for some reason my mind switched the enh plates with enh ferros. Seems you're right, at least according to protofits. Should be fixed one way or the other but at the same time you could drop the "I Win Button" for an M1 and will have space for the Duvolle & an upgrade to an enh rep.
Nice to see the community is still mostly just a bag of dicks.
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
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Posted - 2015.09.14 16:47:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:]Should be fixed one way or the other but at the same time you could drop the "I Win Button" for an M1 and will have space for the Duvolle & an upgrade to an enh rep. I could, but why would I do that. I would rather switch the Duvolle out for a CRD-9 ASCR; get equitable performance for half the isk (which is the way I normally run this suit)
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.09.14 16:48:00 -
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The AR costs more CPU? So what? It costs less PG. Deal with it, sort your fittings out. We are talking about a whole 7 CPU.
Also, why are you trying to fit a proto weapon on an advanced suit? Get better modules. |
Thumb Green
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Posted - 2015.09.14 16:59:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:Thumb Green wrote:]Should be fixed one way or the other but at the same time you could drop the "I Win Button" for an M1 and will have space for the Duvolle & an upgrade to an enh rep. I could, but why would I do that. I would rather switch the Duvolle out for a CRD-9 ASCR; get equitable performance for half the isk (which is the way I normally run this suit) Of course, why would you.
Nice to see the community is still mostly just a bag of dicks.
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
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Posted - 2015.09.14 17:06:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:The AR costs more CPU? So what? It costs less PG. Deal with it, sort your fittings out. We are talking about a whole 7 CPU.
Also, why are you trying to fit a proto weapon on an advanced suit? Get better modules.
This has nothing to do with CCP's opinion on the AR. OK, your infallible logic has swayed me. No more proto on my adv fits.
From now on I'll run full proto GK0 assault in pubs.
Please read entire thread before posting, and brush up on reading comprehension skills. You will have noticed where I said I was running a GEK originally, and that I normally run CRD-9.
And to answer WHY:
Firstly, because I CAN!
Secondly, in the match where I attempted this fit there were a shitton of proto tryhards on the other team. I refuse to run full proto in pubs, but I WILL run proto rifles especially in this situation. So I try to fit the duvolle to see how well it fares against the stomp, but nope: use any other proto assault variant instead.
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WyrmHero1945
Finesse Soldiers
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Posted - 2015.09.14 17:12:00 -
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Use ferroscales, they cost lower CPU than regular plates iirc.
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Mejt0
Made in Poland... E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.09.14 17:17:00 -
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Compared to swarms, scr etc AR is like CR in terms of fitting.
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Vesta Opalus
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.14 17:58:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:The AR costs more CPU? So what? It costs less PG. Deal with it, sort your fittings out. We are talking about a whole 7 CPU.
Also, why are you trying to fit a proto weapon on an advanced suit? Get better modules.
This has nothing to do with CCP's opinion on the AR.
This isnt just a "**** you fit your suits better" problem, this is actually an imbalance in the game, CPU heavy fits have no CPU lite modules to act as filler like PG heavy fits do. If you max out on PG, you can still fit dampeners, energizers, rechargers, precision enhancers, regulators and flaylock have very low or nonexistant PG costs, etc. Meanwhile if I want to fit some shield regen on a suit with a plasma cannon, which is very CPU heavy, I have no CPU-0 modules I can use to fill out the fitting if I max out on CPU, so I am forced to downgrade modules into irrelevance. |
Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.09.14 19:59:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:My fit:
Assault G/1
CX Plate 2x Enh Plate Basic rep Enh Damp
CX Precision 2x Krin's LEX
A-19 Scanner
Core Locus SK9M bsg Carthum
EHP 928
Max CPU/PG 333/62 Used 330/61 With Duvolle 334/59
Your problem is the fit completely. Change those plates for ferroscale OR (preferably) reactive plates Swap at least one of your proto weapons for an advanced and that should do the trick.
Though you'd get much more from your suit if you stuck to all enhanced mods/weapons but keep the cores.
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