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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.08.31 17:19:00 -
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this MU thing can't be working because putting 15 redline snipers on my team or useless window lickers is got to be a scotty troll or something. maybe there just aren't many skilled players in the game anymore but dam where does scotty find these people. send all useless players back to the battle academy for a minimum of 6 months. make a stat tracker if they go under 600 WP and get 1 kill and 10 deaths match after match they send em back to the academy. better yet make a new server for pro redline snipers, people who don't put down uplinks, high ground campers who never go for the letter, people below a 1.0 KDR besides logis. or better yet make it like bf3 were we can buy a server and have administration rights to kick useless players making the game boring and never intense fights. RANT over.
AEs Diplomat. contact me in game with any questions. AEs ringing price 2mill per merc. Botttty tickle monsters.
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.08.31 17:24:00 -
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I enjoyed battles back then and yeah the mu thing sucks what we need is a solo mode where its 8 vs. 8 would cut down on memory and framerate lag
Duct tape fixes everything from weapons to suits and even tanks.
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.08.31 17:35:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:this MU thing can't be working because putting 15 redline snipers on my team or useless window lickers is got to be a scotty troll or something. maybe there just aren't many skilled players in the game anymore but dam where does scotty find these people. send all useless players back to the battle academy for a minimum of 6 months. make a stat tracker if they go under 600 WP and get 1 kill and 10 deaths match after match they send em back to the academy. better yet make a new server for pro redline snipers, people who don't put down uplinks, high ground campers who never go for the letter, people below a 1.0 KDR besides logis. or better yet make it like bf3 were we can buy a server and have administration rights to kick useless players making the game boring and never intense fights. RANT over.
I have worked VERY hard for my .94 kd/r THANK YOU VERY MUCH
KEQ Diplomat and Director
ROFL. Diplomat and Red Button Pusher
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.08.31 17:37:00 -
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Alcina Nektaria wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:this MU thing can't be working because putting 15 redline snipers on my team or useless window lickers is got to be a scotty troll or something. maybe there just aren't many skilled players in the game anymore but dam where does scotty find these people. send all useless players back to the battle academy for a minimum of 6 months. make a stat tracker if they go under 600 WP and get 1 kill and 10 deaths match after match they send em back to the academy. better yet make a new server for pro redline snipers, people who don't put down uplinks, high ground campers who never go for the letter, people below a 1.0 KDR besides logis. or better yet make it like bf3 were we can buy a server and have administration rights to kick useless players making the game boring and never intense fights. RANT over. I have worked VERY hard for my .94 kd/r THANK YOU VERY MUCH if i didn't know u were a logi it would be back to the academy with you
AEs Diplomat. contact me in game with any questions. AEs ringing price 2mill per merc. Botttty tickle monsters.
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
254
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Posted - 2015.08.31 17:48:00 -
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Instead of a K/D requirement they should do it based off a scale of improvement in kills. For example (i'll use myself) when I switched from focusing only on logi to being an assault, my K/D improved by about .61 in a matter of a couple months. It was difficult considering I had over 50% more deaths than kills, but I've gotten through it and now I only need a little less than 1k kills to get an even 1.0.
KEQ Diplomat and Director
ROFL. Diplomat and Red Button Pusher
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.08.31 17:53:00 -
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Alcina Nektaria wrote:Instead of a K/D requirement they should do it based off a scale of improvement in kills. For example (i'll use myself) when I switched from focusing only on logi to being an assault, my K/D improved by about .61 in a matter of a couple months. It was difficult considering I had over 50% more deaths than kills, but I've gotten through it and now I only need a little less than 1k kills to get an even 1.0. what better place for you to improve then the battle academy
AEs Diplomat. contact me in game with any questions. AEs ringing price 2mill per merc. Botttty tickle monsters.
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.08.31 17:56:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:Instead of a K/D requirement they should do it based off a scale of improvement in kills. For example (i'll use myself) when I switched from focusing only on logi to being an assault, my K/D improved by about .61 in a matter of a couple months. It was difficult considering I had over 50% more deaths than kills, but I've gotten through it and now I only need a little less than 1k kills to get an even 1.0. what better place for you to improve then the battle academy #tooeasy
KEQ Diplomat and Director
ROFL. Diplomat and Red Button Pusher
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.08.31 17:58:00 -
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listen i may be wrong or out of line or to harsh. but who thinks my idea would make pub matches more enjoyable
AEs Diplomat. contact me in game with any questions. AEs ringing price 2mill per merc. Botttty tickle monsters.
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axis alpha
Neural Union
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Posted - 2015.08.31 18:02:00 -
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Yeah it's getting pretty bad.
Neural Union. SoonGäó
Start Something Real.
Announcment, when next major patch is confirmed. PM if interested now. o7
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.08.31 18:03:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:this MU thing can't be working because putting 15 redline snipers on my team or useless window lickers is got to be a scotty troll or something. maybe there just aren't many skilled players in the game anymore but dam where does scotty find these people. send all useless players back to the battle academy for a minimum of 6 months. make a stat tracker if they go under 600 WP and get 1 kill and 10 deaths match after match they send em back to the academy. better yet make a new server for pro redline snipers, people who don't put down uplinks, high ground campers who never go for the letter, people below a 1.0 KDR besides logis. or better yet make it like bf3 were we can buy a server and have administration rights to kick useless players making the game boring and never intense fights. RANT over.
I find it very unfortunate that the state of the community makes match making look so freaking terrible. If you watch the matches where no one leaves and Scotty has actually pre made that match they are generally pretty good matches. Current mechanics simply make it more profitable to only die once or not even leave the redline. Making match making actually work has seriously exposed those flaws and given us the **** storm we have.
Is it a coincidence that leaving battle became such a huge problem only after the MU system had been implemented and slightly tweaked? With KDR being a part of the equation you are basically getting stat padders assigned as the work horse of the team. As soon as they see an actual fight they are gone in the blink of an eye creating a vortex on their team which spirals into no one else on the team wanting to fight. Once players have experienced this a few times they just get in the same pattern of looking at fights and deciding it is not worth it to fight.
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.08.31 18:18:00 -
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ok thats a great perspective. it is the players screwing the match making not the new system. so lets get a system that gets these players dafuq up outa here. planet side had a great system that gives you more XP if you fight while being outnumbered or over matched. bf3 rewarded higher gains to players attacking or defending the objectives. isk is one of the problems as it makes people not want to take risks to win. for the life of me i can't understand what the hell pub players are trying to save their special isk for anyway. so boot useless players back to the academy, reward higher XP and isk to players trying to win. boot high KDR players who leave battle a ton back to the academy. put redline sniper on a special server called duck hunt and give them a ammo depo in both redlines so they can shoot at each other. give players that have horrific KDR every match super aim assist. problem solved
AEs Diplomat. contact me in game with any questions. AEs ringing price 2mill per merc. Botttty tickle monsters.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2015.08.31 18:33:00 -
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But i heard that matchmaking was fixed. Then further improved with smaller squads. Those random blues that were being held back by protostomping squads are now able to contribute greatly to the fight. Right?
TBD ringleader | Yep Squad Spokesman
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
254
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Posted - 2015.08.31 18:39:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:But i heard that matchmaking was fixed. Then further improved with smaller squads. Those random blues that were being held back by protostomping squads are now able to contribute greatly to the fight. Right? Witnessed no one ever.....
KEQ Diplomat and Director
ROFL. Diplomat and Red Button Pusher
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.08.31 19:07:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:ok thats a great perspective. it is the players screwing the match making not the new system. so lets get a system that gets these players dafuq up outa here. planet side had a great system that gives you more XP if you fight while being outnumbered or over matched. bf3 rewarded higher gains to players attacking or defending the objectives. isk is one of the problems as it makes people not want to take risks to win. for the life of me i can't understand what the hell pub players are trying to save their special isk for anyway. so boot useless players back to the academy, reward higher XP and isk to players trying to win. boot high KDR players who leave battle a ton back to the academy. put redline sniper on a special server called duck hunt and give them a ammo depo in both redlines so they can shoot at each other. give players that have horrific KDR every match super aim assist. problem solved
I have ranted and ranted about it. At best people only take a momentary interest in the issue until the trolls take over or it just fades off into the background.
The problem is incentive to fight.
Take a look at my thread below and tell me how it would not solve the massive problem we have.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=205813
I have also advocated for adding DNF % to both personal and corporate leader boards to make know stat padders a target any time they step out in public. I think the combination of those two proposals will absolutely change the face of Dust as we know it for the better. At the end of the day I am not the one to say so my opinion holds little weight.
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.08.31 19:31:00 -
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At OP: Tears from the Pub Side?
* trolls troll with troll *
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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Mejt0
Made in Poland... E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.08.31 19:39:00 -
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You know when your team is garbage? When whole enemy team pulls out AV to destroy single tank and your team can't handle killing 8 guys with swarms.
Modern society is lacking in empathy
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maybe deadcatz
the nomercs
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Posted - 2015.08.31 19:46:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:You know when your team is garbage? When whole enemy team pulls out AV to destroy single tank and your team can't handle killing 8 guys with swarms.
You know when the whole enemy team is garbage? Get in a miltia tank and draw 8 of them in militia av gear then pop the nos and start running them over. Nuff said what's even worse is flucking spamming the 'call for help' button and the damn blueberry just like sort of idles by not even reviving me. And no one put down a single link all the from the mcc to the single objective because Dom is all we have to play.
'Perhaps fate will bless us,before this world opens its maw and swallows us'-space pirate encrypted log.
They all died.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.08.31 19:46:00 -
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It sounds narcissistic, but I do get flippin' sick of being at the top of the board EVERY SINGLE MATCH. I can't win a match solo because I get paired up with 15 window lickers.
I really enjoyed the game way more when there was no matchmaking.
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My Minja Blog
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The KTM Duke
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.08.31 19:53:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:You know when your team is garbage? When whole enemy team pulls out AV to destroy single tank and your team can't handle killing 8 guys with swarms. I know that feeling
Selling voice bubbles 24/7 // H0riz0n Unlimit
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Jaran Vilktar
Ultimate Spawn Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.08.31 20:05:00 -
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I honestly don't know whats happened to the matches as of late. During the first few weeks of the whole matchmaking update I had nothing but the absolute BEST ******* matches I've ever had for as long as I've played this game and after all the issues we've had from then to now, it truly does feel like either team just completely gives up after some point.
I can't believe I did it. 514 Logins
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
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Posted - 2015.08.31 20:21:00 -
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Premade squads in pubs is why stomps happened in the first place. Enter matchmaker... High mu solo players leave battle as soon as they see one or more squads on the other team leaving that team handicapped and to an almost certain loss. Matchmaking is made pointless.
Remove squads from pubs and matchmaker could build teams faster, remove leave battle option and k/d padding will be very difficult to do without the risk of using factional and being team killed while leaving an option for organization and squading meanwhile possibly increasing interest in factional.
Remove benefits and costs from PC so teams that wish to have an organized competition with their best players can while giving the option to not accept the fight, while removing the billions of isk generated (I know people with billions) and perpetuating officer gear stomps bought and paid for by a never ending river of isk.
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Balistyc Farshot
MONSTER SYNERGY
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Posted - 2015.08.31 20:34:00 -
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Cuse - This is why I was raging when I mentioned that we should rethink orbitals as a way to turn fights when you get on a team of useless idgits. I want to just quit the game sometimes when I see the level of players on my team and I can't even yell at them over the mic or invite them into my squad to re-educate.
I think we need to come up with a way to reward fighting an uphill battle. When a team is stomped and 6 guys stick it out, those 6 guys should make back all their isk because they entertained a team.
I wanted orbitals to be rewarded the losing team so they can push back the opposition and get them off the redlines.
Is there another mechanic we can provide that will make it so 4 guys can push back 16 when the team is redlined? Only other thing I can come up with is dropping in turrets and the maps aren't configured for that.
"Dying with your rep tool out - the logi-flasher!"
Who hasn't been caught by a cute little female scout doing this?
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.08.31 20:45:00 -
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Balistyc Farshot wrote:Cuse - This is why I was raging when I mentioned that we should rethink orbitals as a way to turn fights when you get on a team of useless idgits. I want to just quit the game sometimes when I see the level of players on my team and I can't even yell at them over the mic or invite them into my squad to re-educate.
I think we need to come up with a way to reward fighting an uphill battle. When a team is stomped and 6 guys stick it out, those 6 guys should make back all their isk because they entertained a team.
I wanted orbitals to be rewarded the losing team so they can push back the opposition and get them off the redlines.
Is there another mechanic we can provide that will make it so 4 guys can push back 16 when the team is redlined? Only other thing I can come up with is dropping in turrets and the maps aren't configured for that.
Making it so that mitigating some loss while also making real profit only coming from fighting and winning is the answer. Even in a winning battle currently losing 2 proto suits is an instant negative return. This is partly due to the 6 guys at the bottom of the board who never left the redline soaking up some of the pay and partly due to WP being the only factor in deciding payouts.
Going behind the enemy and killing two guys drawing their focus off of the redline will only reward 100 WP which equates to an ISK number too small to even be noticed yet it can change the tide of the battle. In a keep what you kill system that simple tactic would net you a very noticeable number that possibly even covers your suit if you take on 2 big spenders.
The current mechanics are seriously leaning in logis favor. The big issue here is that logis can not make any money if their team is not fighting so they are quick to give up leaving the rest of the team to quickly be stomped into giving up or even not even able to fight due to having to spawn in the MCC only to be popped as soon as they hit the ground by people camping the redline.
Until we have a system that directly rewards participation and winning ONLY this game is going absolutely no where.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Nikushimi no Noroi
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Posted - 2015.08.31 21:06:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Premade squads in pubs is why stomps happened in the first place. Enter matchmaker... High mu solo players leave battle as soon as they see one or more squads on the other team leaving that team handicapped and to an almost certain loss. Matchmaking is made pointless.
Remove squads from pubs and matchmaker could build teams faster, remove leave battle option and k/d padding will be very difficult to do without the risk of using factional and being team killed while leaving an option for organization and squading meanwhile possibly increasing interest in factional.
Remove benefits and costs from PC so teams that wish to have an organized competition with their best players can while giving the option to not accept the fight, while removing the billions of isk generated (I know people with billions) and perpetuating officer gear stomps bought and paid for by a never ending river of isk.
Now , this sounds like the truth right here , in fact ... too much like the truth because you must have had to experience what's going on to get right to the point .
This sounds like too much , like right .
It also sounds like what I proposed , not to say that it's my idea but just the simple fact of people understanding the simplicity of the issue that seems to cause so much headache .
It's not hard to solve , all it takes is effort and resolve .
Must be lacking in this community .
You HOWDIDHEKILLME , are spot on with your statements .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2015.08.31 21:32:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:this MU thing can't be working because putting 15 redline snipers on my team or useless window lickers is got to be a scotty troll or something. maybe there just aren't many skilled players in the game anymore but dam where does scotty find these people. send all useless players back to the battle academy for a minimum of 6 months. make a stat tracker if they go under 600 WP and get 1 kill and 10 deaths match after match they send em back to the academy. better yet make a new server for pro redline snipers, people who don't put down uplinks, high ground campers who never go for the letter, people below a 1.0 KDR besides logis. or better yet make it like bf3 were we can buy a server and have administration rights to kick useless players making the game boring and never intense fights. RANT over.
Math isn't your strong point. For every kill there is a death, kdr levels itself. If you keep removing everyone below a 1.0 kdr, eventually you would only have one player left.
Because, that's why.
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Balistyc Farshot
MONSTER SYNERGY
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Posted - 2015.08.31 21:46:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:this MU thing can't be working because putting 15 redline snipers on my team or useless window lickers is got to be a scotty troll or something. maybe there just aren't many skilled players in the game anymore but dam where does scotty find these people. send all useless players back to the battle academy for a minimum of 6 months. make a stat tracker if they go under 600 WP and get 1 kill and 10 deaths match after match they send em back to the academy. better yet make a new server for pro redline snipers, people who don't put down uplinks, high ground campers who never go for the letter, people below a 1.0 KDR besides logis. or better yet make it like bf3 were we can buy a server and have administration rights to kick useless players making the game boring and never intense fights. RANT over. Math isn't your strong point. For every kill there is a death, kdr levels itself. If you keep removing everyone below a 1.0 kdr, eventually you would only have one player left.
New super Math Troll! Tip my hat to your troll skills friend.
"Dying with your rep tool out - the logi-flasher!"
Who hasn't been caught by a cute little female scout doing this?
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Tebu Gan
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.08.31 21:50:00 -
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Alcina Nektaria wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:this MU thing can't be working because putting 15 redline snipers on my team or useless window lickers is got to be a scotty troll or something. maybe there just aren't many skilled players in the game anymore but dam where does scotty find these people. send all useless players back to the battle academy for a minimum of 6 months. make a stat tracker if they go under 600 WP and get 1 kill and 10 deaths match after match they send em back to the academy. better yet make a new server for pro redline snipers, people who don't put down uplinks, high ground campers who never go for the letter, people below a 1.0 KDR besides logis. or better yet make it like bf3 were we can buy a server and have administration rights to kick useless players making the game boring and never intense fights. RANT over. I have worked VERY hard for my .94 kd/r THANK YOU VERY MUCH
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.08.31 21:59:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:this MU thing can't be working because putting 15 redline snipers on my team or useless window lickers is got to be a scotty troll or something. maybe there just aren't many skilled players in the game anymore but dam where does scotty find these people. send all useless players back to the battle academy for a minimum of 6 months. make a stat tracker if they go under 600 WP and get 1 kill and 10 deaths match after match they send em back to the academy. better yet make a new server for pro redline snipers, people who don't put down uplinks, high ground campers who never go for the letter, people below a 1.0 KDR besides logis. or better yet make it like bf3 were we can buy a server and have administration rights to kick useless players making the game boring and never intense fights. RANT over. I have worked VERY hard for my .94 kd/r THANK YOU VERY MUCH Ugh, I cringe anytime I go negative, outside of PC that is. I kick my own arse every time I go below my current weekly K/D.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
CEO of Abstract Requiem
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
1
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Posted - 2015.08.31 22:09:00 -
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Maybe the other 15 players on that high MU player's team need to not be fuckin garbage and require that guy to backpack an entire team. In a pub. It's a VIDEO GAME and maybe that guy just wants to relax, try new stuff, talk to friends in another chat while listening to music.
Why are high MU players required to do things in pub games while that guy in 13th place is allowed to rep a turret so he can stay on it longer? The problem isn't just high MU players throwing things off balance. It's also some low MU players expecting the big names to do everything and hand them a victory.
Team Game Bruh. Everybody has to participate. Drop some ammo or a uplink or something.
TBD ringleader | Yep Squad Spokesman
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Mahmun
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
10
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Posted - 2015.08.31 22:13:00 -
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****! Just remove the god damn redline, make it so that everyone has the same redline and give a protective force field around ground spawn. The force field will be just like the one on the mcc only it will go around 360 degrees, making it so that redline snipers will not be able to use the redline as defence, cause everyone will have the same redline. Also, I feel that sending ppl back to the academy is a bad idea, think about it, professional scrubs being pit against newbies... ya I don't see that going anywhere good. Send them to something else called maybe "academy 2.0" or a something like that. Also, make it so that the more time u spend about 200 meters around the objective, u receive a 10% (or something like that) boost in isk payout and/or total wps.
Chicken is good
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