if uve played any mmo like DAoC, everquest, or Warhammer online.... u learn that its pretty damn hard to circle strafe someone who is charging straight at you or moving backwards (mostly likely moving backwards because then u dont turn ur back to them).. ive had plenty of matchups with me in scout and enemy in heavy where jumping just gave them time to shoot.. if someone is jumping around u and u cant kill them its prolly cause ur jumping along with them, if u want to beat someone do something diferent than they are

people who charge straight into an opponent are idiots, they usually dies3X as much as a person who is strafing would. Why? because he's not dodging any of the shots being fired at him. he's just a target that's growing larger by the second.

Jumping requires stamina. For some dropsuits, you can jump only once. For others, three times at best before they can't even do anything else after that (not even sprint) for about 5 seconds (which is forever during the heat of a moment). On top of that, some players have reported that trying to get over a single crate (certain ones at least) takes up all of their stamina.

Besides, I have rarely encountered players who bunny hopped. Even if I do run into them, I wait for them to run out of stamina and start shooting because then they can't even sprint to save themselves.

I don't agree with removing jumping. I do agree that bunny hoping is annoying but the fact that jumping requires Stamina helps prevent this. I must say this: "Adapt or Die" If you don't adapt to the changing mechanics then you will be farmed, find a fit that minimizes the bunny hopping. toss a remote explosive under their feet, trow a grenade do something other than whinning on a forum designed to improve the game, not make the game into MAG or CoD or BF this is DUST.

Adapt or Die!

I lol'ed so much at this.

ask yourself this:

can you jump where ever and when ever you like in real life?


If the answer is yes, your argument of realism is invalid.

If the answer is no, you need to go back to pre-school to learn basic physics.

Maps would be have to redesigned for the movment speed are you serious there are vast open expances in real life does that meen we should all move faster than olimphic athletes and jump in around 6 feet high as in DUST vehicles have been created to cover these vast terrains quicker.

in a open map like DUSTs battlefield camping will be fairly ineffective other than snipers, proper campers would simply get bored in map as big as dusts current battlefield and leave back to COD and Battlefield where ccamping is easyier inside little rooms with SMGs watching the door now thats a proper camper,

Yes good players will get hired id just prefer the good players to be the fellas using tactics the art of stealt and actualt marksmanship proper flanking manuvers not just pointing in general direction and shooting and running form side to side hoping you are against someone who has not figured out how to shoot around lag and hit detection

The thing is DUST will have to attract the players from COD and Battlefield to be a success on PS3 mabye this halo style of thing would wash on xbox or PC but every attempt at a arcady shooter on PS3 has failed misserably look at UT3

Dont say it is a lack of skill ive played alog side people on Battlefield and MAG with more skill than any strafe and jump happy l33t who worships the good old days of FPS back in the day of Quake and DOOM and UT the lot but FPS has grown up

This has been another thread brought to you by players with a total lack of aim and reflexes.

Always look for the key phrases realism, "true to Eve," tactics, immature so you know you have a genuine "please handicap better players" thread on your hands.

Thanks for reading.