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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2015.08.07 22:58:00 -
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After all this time I have come to realize 75% of the forum posters don't help.
Out of the original 100%.... 30% don't even play anymore.
I propose a 'seven hours in the last seven days' requirement to post on forums.
If you don't play, why should anyone listen to you? ESPECIALLY CCP.
Inb4 the king of those wretches posts.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
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Posted - 2015.08.07 23:14:00 -
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Then I would never be able to post. I get maybe an hour to an hour and a half 2-3 days a week to play. I have a wife, kid, and job that take up a majority of my time so I only get to play when the wife is at work and the baby is taking a nap (I also like to occasionally play OTHER games, not just this one). All because I CAN'T play as much as someone else, it doesn't mean I'm not dedicated to this game and trying to make it as good as it can be.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Mobius Kaethis
molon labe.
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.08.07 23:18:00 -
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Devadander wrote:After all this time I have come to realize 75% of the forum posters don't help.
Out of the original 100%.... 30% don't even play anymore.
I propose a 'seven hours in the last seven days' requirement to post on forums.
If you don't play, why should anyone listen to you? ESPECIALLY CCP.
Inb4 the king of those wretches posts.
Posting to these forums is as much about entertainment for some people as it is about moving the game forward. Restricting those peoples access to these forums would do nothing for the game and would make for bad press, something Dust514 definitely doesn't need.
Now with more evil.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2015.08.07 23:23:00 -
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Thokk is not alone in this. I have a similar situation.
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
526
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Posted - 2015.08.07 23:42:00 -
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One hour a day is too much? I have a life too.
I run my own successful business that takes at least 40 a week. Have a wife. Four kids. I 3-D model alot on my pc as a hobby. Have a night life.
And still could get 7 hours in 7 days.
I made this post whilst smoking during cleaning up my shop, while waiting on wife to call for lunch so I can 3d art while we talk, then jump on dust and crack one of my three beers for the night....
Now that I've typed this I guess I am a little crazy, but still....
my response so far...
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
526
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Posted - 2015.08.07 23:44:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:Then I would never be able to post. I get maybe an hour to an hour and a half 2-3 days a week to play. I have a wife, kid, and job that take up a majority of my time so I only get to play when the wife is at work and the baby is taking a nap (I also like to occasionally play OTHER games, not just this one). All because I CAN'T play as much as someone else, it doesn't mean I'm not dedicated to this game and trying to make it as good as it can be.
This man is exempt based on the fact that he has actually made constructive posts.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
526
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Posted - 2015.08.07 23:48:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Devadander wrote:After all this time I have come to realize 75% of the forum posters don't help.
Out of the original 100%.... 30% don't even play anymore.
I propose a 'seven hours in the last seven days' requirement to post on forums.
If you don't play, why should anyone listen to you? ESPECIALLY CCP.
Inb4 the king of those wretches posts. Posting to these forums is as much about entertainment for some people as it is about moving the game forward. Restricting those peoples access to these forums would do nothing for the game and would make for bad press, something Dust514 definitely doesn't need.
While I have little doubt CCP would fall for some of the more obvious tries.
I know for fact, that changes have been made based on non-playing peoples suggestions. And not for the daily players benefit.. (1.4 anyone?...)
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
526
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Posted - 2015.08.07 23:55:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Devadander wrote:After all this time I have come to realize 75% of the forum posters don't help.
Out of the original 100%.... 30% don't even play anymore.
I propose a 'seven hours in the last seven days' requirement to post on forums.
If you don't play, why should anyone listen to you? ESPECIALLY CCP.
Inb4 the king of those wretches posts. Posting to these forums is as much about entertainment for some people as it is about moving the game forward. Restricting those peoples access to these forums would do nothing for the game and would make for bad press, something Dust514 definitely doesn't need.
I really don't care about people being entertained by the forums.
There's hulu and Netflix, shopping malls, and 4chan.
People should social ingame, and the forums should advance the game.
I would be OK with the restriction on Features and ideas section only.
Again, if you only get 3 hours of dust a month, how could you possibly know what we (the daily players) need?
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.07 23:58:00 -
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There are plenty of people here who could play 10000 hours and still firmly have no ******* idea what they're talking about, and quite the opposite, those who rarely even need to touch the game to understand it explicitly.
Maybe you should stop trying to turn the forums into your own personal losers yacht club, for such an apparently successful person you're making yourself out to seem pretty sad. Can't handle the heat?
I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease
Swarms everywhere.
So-bittervet
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CRYPT3C W0LF
Auraxis Special Forces
769
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Posted - 2015.08.08 00:13:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:Devadander wrote:After all this time I have come to realize 75% of the forum posters don't help.
Out of the original 100%.... 30% don't even play anymore.
I propose a 'seven hours in the last seven days' requirement to post on forums.
If you don't play, why should anyone listen to you? ESPECIALLY CCP.
Inb4 the king of those wretches posts. Posting to these forums is as much about entertainment for some people as it is about moving the game forward. Restricting those peoples access to these forums would do nothing for the game and would make for bad press, something Dust514 definitely doesn't need. I really don't care about people being entertained by the forums. There's hulu and Netflix, shopping malls, and 4chan. People should social ingame, and the forums should advance the game. I would be OK with the restriction on Features and ideas section only. Again, if you only get 3 hours of dust a month, how could you possibly know what we (the daily players) need?
to be fair, it doesn't seem like you have the best intentions for the game either...
Dust to dust, ash to ash
Come join us in Blacklight Retribution on PS4! :D
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
11
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Posted - 2015.08.08 00:17:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Thokk Nightshade wrote:Then I would never be able to post. I get maybe an hour to an hour and a half 2-3 days a week to play. I have a wife, kid, and job that take up a majority of my time so I only get to play when the wife is at work and the baby is taking a nap (I also like to occasionally play OTHER games, not just this one). All because I CAN'T play as much as someone else, it doesn't mean I'm not dedicated to this game and trying to make it as good as it can be. This man is exempt based on the fact that he has actually made constructive posts.
This is precisely the point.
I have seen sh!t posting from regular players (you think KTB or Duna would be contructive??). And I have seen less frequent players and new players give very good feedback.
Lots of players have left never to return. Others play less frequently, not because they don't like the game, but because they can't stand to play in the game's current state.
Do their opinions not matter?
Ghost has been playing Arma on his PC, but does that negate his previous experience and ability to communicate?
I don't think so.
Lastly, I seriously doubt that the biggest problem of this game has been infrequent players commenting on the forums. The CPM, particularly CPM 1 and I am confident CPM 2, are good at being filters. And I sincerely doubt that any Devs have merely taken the forums at the word of those posting and have not used their own data to figure out what perspectives are relevant or not.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
694
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Posted - 2015.08.08 00:19:00 -
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Devadander wrote:After all this time I have come to realize 75% of the forum posters don't help.
Out of the original 100%.... 30% don't even play anymore.
I propose a 'seven hours in the last seven days' requirement to post on forums.
If you don't play, why should anyone listen to you? ESPECIALLY CCP.
Inb4 the king of those wretches posts.
Let's fix these numbers.
id say out of the original 100% - 10% still play, probably less.
And of that percent - most of them are still probably better then you, polishing there skill on games with a future that isn't clouded in a mist, hoping that by being vocal around here enough CCP won't just abandon the game that has become so hard to play.
****, i rarely play, and would probably hand most of you your asses, and understand the mechanics far better. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
694
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Posted - 2015.08.08 00:35:00 -
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Devadander wrote:After all this time I have come to realize 75% of the forum posters don't help.
Out of the original 100%.... 30% don't even play anymore.
I propose a 'seven hours in the last seven days' requirement to post on forums.
If you don't play, why should anyone listen to you? ESPECIALLY CCP.
Inb4 the king of those wretches posts.
There's one thing i want to point out since i've marked you as ******** already -
In the past 3 years, how much has this game honestly changed?
4 new suits?
2 new weapons?
2 new types of tanks?
2 new maps?
all it took was 3 years. How much change do you think this game goes through that we'd need up to date information to keep up? |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
2
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Posted - 2015.08.08 02:16:00 -
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Devadander wrote:After all this time I have come to realize 75% of the forum posters don't help.
Out of the original 100%.... 30% don't even play anymore.
I propose a 'seven hours in the last seven days' requirement to post on forums.
If you don't play, why should anyone listen to you? ESPECIALLY CCP.
Inb4 the king of those wretches posts.
That may be a bit strict but I could agree with this. Some people only get to play on the weekends and stuff so may not make the 7 hours.
To start just a min play time to post in GD and F&I would be great since technically no alts are suppose to be outside of the war room.
Remove NPC orbitals from FW. -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest.
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
529
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Posted - 2015.08.08 02:33:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:There are plenty of people here who could play 10000 hours and still firmly have no ******* idea what they're talking about, and quite the opposite, those who rarely even need to touch the game to understand it explicitly.
Maybe you should stop trying to turn the forums into your own personal losers yacht club, for such an apparently successful person you're making yourself out to seem pretty sad. Can't handle the heat?
Inb4 you.
 goteeeem
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
529
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Posted - 2015.08.08 02:36:00 -
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And all the alt posts just prove my theory.
Toxicity.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
848
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Posted - 2015.08.08 02:36:00 -
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You
Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) No.
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Jarrel Thomas's SLAVE
Carnage Corpse
25
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Posted - 2015.08.08 02:37:00 -
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Suck
Alts Unite!
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123456 123457
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.08.08 02:38:00 -
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Bawlz |
Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
529
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Posted - 2015.08.08 02:43:00 -
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Half Troll, but 100% serious, and you all proved my point deliciously.
Not a constructive counterpoint besides thokk.
Magnificent.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
698
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Posted - 2015.08.08 03:22:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Half Troll, but 100% serious, and you all proved my point deliciously.
Not a constructive counterpoint besides thokk, and one eye.
Magnificent.
sorry, but your thread in CCP eyes was troll to begin with, validate or justify yourself as you please, matters little.
It's what CPM's for - run through our bullshit and find the gems to give to CCP. Why do you feel the need to make a thread about it? Did someone in a different thread rattle your panties?
Guess what, it's New Eden, these forums used to be considered down right TOXIC as you described in the past - it's care bear compared.
Be happy with it, peasant. |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
11
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Posted - 2015.08.08 03:50:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Half Troll, but 100% serious, and you all proved my point deliciously.
Not a constructive counterpoint besides thokk, and one eye.
Magnificent.
And yet your original post demonstrates how playing regularly does not improve the quality of posts.
Any sort of play restrictions for the forums does not elevate discussion so much as give those that play often some inane right to post junk while also preventing new and veteran players who play infrequently from being part of constructive discussion.
The notion that only people who play this game are capable of proper discussion, and those that aren't must not play was a flawed association from the start.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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123456 123457
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2015.08.08 03:51:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Half Troll, but 100% serious, and you all proved my point deliciously.
Not a constructive counterpoint besides thokk, and one eye.
Magnificent.
I take what I posted here back I edited because this thread is so stupid its open to trolling. |
JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
848
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Posted - 2015.08.08 04:00:00 -
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123456 123457 wrote:Devadander wrote:Half Troll, but 100% serious, and you all proved my point deliciously.
Not a constructive counterpoint besides thokk, and one eye.
Magnificent. I take what I posted here back I edited because this thread is so stupid its open to trolling.
You did good.
Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) No.
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LT SHANKS
You In The Nutz
6
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Posted - 2015.08.08 04:39:00 -
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Devadander wrote:After all this time I have come to realize 75% of the forum posters don't help.
Out of the original 100%.... 30% don't even play anymore.
I propose a 'seven hours in the last seven days' requirement to post on forums.
If you don't play, why should anyone listen to you? ESPECIALLY CCP.
Inb4 the king of those wretches posts.
As much as I enjoy throwing out made-up stats, I'd have to disagree and state that 75% of the forum users often do have something constructive to say. However, 70% of what they say is normally crap.
Why is it this way? It's simple really. All things constructive are just echoed ideas of things that were stated before. If 100% of the forum users posted well thought out suggestions, ideas, criticisms, etc. 100% of the time, then general discussion would consist of nothing but the same rehashed statements over and over again.
Would CCP be any more inclined to attend to these inquiries, complaints, etc.? I highly doubt they would. They are aware of the problems. They are aware of our suggestions. They are aware of our concerns. They will get to it all when they can.
In the meantime, why not let shitposters continue posting shit? Why not let trolls continue trolling? Why not let the mediocre bluedots continue posting stories of their incredible, yet fake, feats of dominance in hopes of getting false praise? Why not let the forum warriors be what they are? They're not hurting anyone, forum moderation can deal with them, and the rest of us can ignore them.
Let them keep their voice. The worse thing CCP can do at this point is turn open forum participation into an exclusive club for only the most diehard Dust514 fan. |
Mobius Kaethis
molon labe.
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.08.08 04:54:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Half Troll, but 100% serious, and you all proved my point deliciously.
Not a constructive counterpoint besides thokk, and one eye.
Magnificent.
And how was my post non-constructive? This is a game we are talking about, the goal of which is player entertainment and spending. If that entertainment comes from the forums how is that any less valid than playing. Who are you to decide how the rest of the community gets to engage with this game.
Now with more evil.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
0uter.Heaven
983
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Posted - 2015.08.08 04:58:00 -
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When I need motivation
My one solution is my queen
'Cause she stays strong
Yeah, yeah
She is always in my corner
Right there when I want her
All these other girls are tempting
But I'm empty when you're gone
And they say
[Pre-hook:]
Do you need me?
Do you think I'm pretty?
Do I make you feel like cheating?
And I'm like no, not really 'cause
[Hook:]
Oh, I think that I've found myself a cheerleader
She is always right there when I need her
Oh, I think that I've found myself a cheerleader
She is always right there when I need her
[Verse 2:]
She walks like a model
She grants my wishes
Like a genie in a bottle
Yeah, yeah
'Cause I'm the wizard of love
And I got the magic wand
All these other girls are tempting
But I'm empty when you're gone
And they say
[Pre-hook:]
Do you need me?
Do you think I'm pretty?
Do I make you feel like cheating?
And I'm like no, not really 'cause
[Hook:]
Oh, I think that I've found myself a cheerleader
She is always right there when I need her
Oh, I think that I've found myself a cheerleader
She is always right there when I need her
[Instrumental break]
[Bridge:]
She gives me love and affection
Baby, did I mention
You're the only girl for me
No, I don't need a next one
Mama loves you too
She thinks I made the right selection
Now all that's left to do
Is just for me to pop the question
[Hook:]
Oh, I think that I've found myself a cheerleader
She is always right there when I need her
Oh, I think that I've found myself a cheerleader
She is always right there when I need her
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
1
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Posted - 2015.08.08 05:52:00 -
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Normally I like the stuff you post but you confirmed my statement with your retort. I am exempt because I make "good posts." There are more than just me who have a life outside video games (and this game exclusively) who can still give constructive feedback. Hell, I play about 4 hours a week (I might hit 7 on a good week) and am feeling somewhat burned out and may be takI g a break for a bit to reenergize.
Trying to set a minimum threshold for me to voice my opinion would keep me off the forums all together and probably drive me away from the game. The idea that only "hardcore" players who make a game their life have a legit voice outside the exceptions is the reason I started my own corp of myself. I was in one growing corp and the idea of meeting certain "standards" just pissed me off and screamed elitism. I am playing a video game. I enjoy it even though I am mediocre at best. I don't need to be a tryhard who has to be the best at a damn game. That sucks the fun out of games faster than anything for me. So I said screw it and started my own so I could play as I wanted.
All that said, I DO ENJOY THE **** out of this game. I want to play it until either the server shuts down or it is ported or whatever. Because of that, I will do my best to come on the forums, give feedback, throw out ideas, and be the best mediocre merc I can be. However, I am not going to change my daily life around or stay up all hours of the night or get up early as hell to squeeze extra hours in just to have a voice. It is not worth it and I am not "dedicated" enough for that. If it ever does come to that, I'll just biomass and give all my ISK and goods to whoever wants it because at that point the game is dead anyways.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.08.08 08:36:00 -
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Devadander wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:There are plenty of people here who could play 10000 hours and still firmly have no ******* idea what they're talking about, and quite the opposite, those who rarely even need to touch the game to understand it explicitly.
Maybe you should stop trying to turn the forums into your own personal losers yacht club, for such an apparently successful person you're making yourself out to seem pretty sad. Can't handle the heat? Inb4 you. goteeeem
I'm tearing up a little over here...I didn't know iI was your king...oh God..uh..I'd like to thank God and Jesus and Mohammed and Elmo, they've really inspired me. Captain Crunch, for being my ***** and straight up C-G...and of course who could forget the Ninja Turtles, for inspiring me to stand up to evil.
This is all happening so fast
I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease
Swarms everywhere.
So-bittervet
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KGB Sleep
Kinsho Swords
1
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Posted - 2015.08.08 08:42:00 -
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I played today and my contribution is...
buy my stuff in the trading thread.
o7
Because beer, that's why.
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