OP: Are they ruining your paper-thin melee fit fun?

In this case NERF the Combat Rifle and Rail Rifle along with it.

OK let me do some math for you. Let's take an armor suit with 600 armor hp. The six kin assault combat rifle has the highest dps versus armor doing about 715 dps versus armor with a fully maxed out, triple damage mod. This still takes about 0.85 seconds to strip 600 armor. Still far slower than the scr versus shields. The rail is even slower but can do so at more range.

Care to try again?

Here we go again... nerf the whole game so

who need a heineken when you have those yummy tears

I give 2 fluxes about your math the RR and CR go through my amor just like the SCR.

Shields are getting rekt by any weapon not only by ScRs so YES, they need a buff.

Now on topic: try to kill more than 2 guys on a row (2 already means that you aimed right) with a ScR. You'll for sure have to stop shooting, get some cover, pick them one by one and be very careful with your overheat. With any other weapon, you could just shoot everything without carrying about any kibd of overheat.

An ScR user has to know its range, its environment and aim right more than any others or he'll get easily killed right after he killed you. That's the whole thing. You may rage because you got killed by an ScR user, but if the guy didn't got rekt by your friend right after it's because he knew how to use it.

Can't you destroy everything with a triple damage modded proto RR? It's exactly the same thing with ScR. Except that if the ScR misses, he's screwed, the RR will just adjust and keep shooting.

Now for DMG's sake, te sbundo.

Scrambler threads are endemic, and I get it. I use them, and I get it. So I'm just going to post these ideas every time I see a new thread pop up.

1) The scrambler is balanced when given to any suit that isn't the Amarr Assault with 4+ ranks in its skill bar, with the EXPLICIT EXCEPTION of the charged shot, which is the main source of scram QQ.

2) Amarr Assault bonus is too good at dealing with heat buildup. Scrambler Operation skill (cooldown time) is largely irrelevant in-game.

3) Change both skills to:
-Scrambler Operation: 3% reduction to heat build up per level.
-Amarr Assault: 15% reduction to laser weapon overheat sieze duration per level. 10% reduction to overheat feedback damage per level.

4) Charged shot overheats the weapon irrespective of how high your Operation skill is.

Now you have a scrambler that becomes more accessable to all suits the more points you put in its Operation, but at 3% instead of 5% the heat reduction no longer becomes an irrelevant factor in fire fights; even at rank 5 Operation, all players (even Amarr) must manage heat. The charged shot becomes a powerful gamble instead of an "I win" button; if you want to one-shot scouts and lightly tanked assaults from 70m + away, you'll need skill, timing and some HP left.

The Amarr Assault now becomes a "Zealot", who will gladly take the burn of feedback now that it hurts them less. The sizeable drop in sieze duration means they can plow through opposition so long as they have enough HP left to do so. It's a much more interesting bonus that gives the scram user potency without becoming OP.

Discuss.

Now compare it to the TAR that shoots just as many rounds as an ScR with Amarr Assault level 5.

Now compare it to the TAR that shoots just as many rounds as an ScR with Amarr Assault level 5.

Although this is perhaps a step in the right direction. It's alpha versus shields may still be too high. It' would still be able to, for example, remove 600 shield hp in about a half second. Perhaps the disadvantage of the weapon would be more apparent and therefore balance it. Tough to say. But anyway thanks for a useful contribution.

What does TAR when you charge ... you can't charge it. Nevermind.

I feel like the TAR and the BAR have always been in a good place. They're just not commonly used, as it requires more work. Usually, but not always, if you see someone consistently getting high scores with these rifles. It's a modded controller

What does TAR when you charge ... you can't charge it. Nevermind.

I would like to point out an undamage modded Viziam SCR has something like 5 less damage then a prof. V 6kin ACR to armor and it's a shield weapon.

Sure.. You have to stop shooting and take cover for a total of 2 seconds. I've used the proto amarr with a scrambler quite a bit. The overheat is rarely an issue unless you're dumb and the reload is so fast that it's easy to slay, reload while it cools, and repeat. Wtf are you taking about know it's range and environment? It has an incredible range. Let's talk about the Assault rifle. That's a weapon where you have to constantly remind yourself of its terrible range.

If he misses, then he's bad. Let's not involve skill into a pure mathematical disparity.

I don't give a **** about DMG lol. This is about game balance.

In this case NERF the Combat Rifle and Rail Rifle along with it.