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Ice Royal Glantix
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Posted - 2015.07.29 06:12:00 -
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A corpmate of mine is saying the CCP frequently makes changes to things in the game, such as weapons, without telling anyone. Apparently the Combat Rifle had it's burst delay changed a couple of weeks ago, and it's damage vs. shields was also dropped recently as well. Is my corpmate just delusional? Or have these nerfs actually taken place?
"Solitude is not a burden; it is a gift, for independence allows us to realize our own potential."
Glantix / Ice
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
759
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Posted - 2015.07.29 06:15:00 -
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Ice Royal Glantix wrote:A corpmate of mine is saying the CCP frequently makes changes to things in the game, such as weapons, without telling anyone. Apparently the Combat Rifle had it's burst delay changed a couple of weeks ago, and it's damage vs. shields was also dropped recently as well. Is my corpmate just delusional? Or have these nerfs actually taken place?
The ScR Standard had a heat build up increase.
Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!!
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
25

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Posted - 2015.07.29 09:26:00 -
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There have been no ninja changes for over a year that I can think of, except last week when I figured a last minute change wouldn't hurt anyone, added modules into the new slots on the APEX commandos, broke them by go over on pg/cpu, and then realized it would be a good idea to buff them all and align them all to the same values, like the grand plan dictates, resulting in one suit getting "ninja" nerfed.
If there are more, I will freely admit to them, but perpetuating this kind of misinformation that we are always somehow being untruthful and insincere is really aggravating.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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jett it
MONSTER SYNERGY
116
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Posted - 2015.07.29 09:40:00 -
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Great words there Rattati, thumbs up! ^ Plus love all the new updates hope there are many more to come :) We need quafe weapons tradable next plz, pretty plz, pretty pretty plz....
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Ice Royal Glantix
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Posted - 2015.07.29 10:14:00 -
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Thank you, Rattati.
It always annoys me when players make random accusations such as the ones previously mentioned, but I have never had any concrete proof to prove them wrong. Now I can say with 100% confidence that all these idiots are incorrect.
Thank you, again. Sincerely, Glantix / Ice
"Solitude is not a burden; it is a gift, for independence allows us to realize our own potential."
Glantix / Ice
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Count- -Crotchula
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
153
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Posted - 2015.07.29 10:16:00 -
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Ice Royal Glantix wrote:A corpmate of mine is saying the CCP frequently makes changes to things in the game, such as weapons, without telling anyone. Apparently the Combat Rifle had it's burst delay changed a couple of weeks ago, and it's damage vs. shields was also dropped recently as well. Is my corpmate just delusional? Or have these nerfs actually taken place?
it's all they do mate, it's a joke.
I love coming back to DUST and not being able to bloody fit anything, it's as if it's a glitch because you certainly weren't told!
when you log in and it says "synchronising" and a percentage bar, that's how you know there's been a ninja nerf. aka a pointless waste of time, if it isn't broke don't fix it! |

dzizur
Nos Nothi
548
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Posted - 2015.07.29 10:19:00 -
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haha, asking devs about ninja nerfs? ;)
I mean seriously, everytime a patch hits there's lots of stuff that's broken and you can see it 3 minutes after logging in, afterwards they get fixed. But imagine how many ninja bugs/errors/changes are not being detected by most of the playerbase (for example : are you really checking every update if the scanning rings have appropriate distances? or dmg modules have correct stacking penalty?)
We just don't know, neither they (devs) no.. But that's only my opinion based on observations, I may be wrong.. |

XxGhazbaranxX
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:04:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:There have been no ninja changes for over a year that I can think of, except last week when I figured a last minute change wouldn't hurt anyone, added modules into the new slots on the APEX commandos, broke them by go over on pg/cpu, and then realized it would be a good idea to buff them all and align them all to the same values, like the grand plan dictates, resulting in one suit getting "ninja" nerfed.
If there are more, I will freely admit to them, but perpetuating this kind of misinformation that we are always somehow being untruthful and insincere is really aggravating.
Ok. How bout commandos getting their powergrid reduced and their cpu increased?
Link to the original post where the ninja nerf is admitted
five times wrote:one of my galmando fittings became invalid overnight, because pg exceeded. wtf?
CCP Rattati wrote:you didn't mention that cpu went also up.
We are aligning cpu and pg values across the different roles. Commandos will get a fitting bonus to something relevant for them later.
Please CCP Rattati, you're doing a great job but you can't hide the sky with your hand. Stealth chanhes have been happening for quite a while and this is just one example. I don't mean to be confrontational or anything but the truth is the truth and I've seen value changes with my own eyes not so long ago
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
25

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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:40:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:There have been no ninja changes for over a year that I can think of, except last week when I figured a last minute change wouldn't hurt anyone, added modules into the new slots on the APEX commandos, broke them by go over on pg/cpu, and then realized it would be a good idea to buff them all and align them all to the same values, like the grand plan dictates, resulting in one suit getting "ninja" nerfed.
If there are more, I will freely admit to them, but perpetuating this kind of misinformation that we are always somehow being untruthful and insincere is really aggravating.
Ok. How bout commandos getting their powergrid reduced and their cpu increased?
Link to the original post where the ninja nerf is admitted five times wrote:one of my galmando fittings became invalid overnight, because pg exceeded. wtf? CCP Rattati wrote:you didn't mention that cpu went also up.
We are aligning cpu and pg values across the different roles. Commandos will get a fitting bonus to something relevant for them later. Please CCP Rattati, you're doing a great job but you can't hide the sky with your hand. Stealth chanhes have been happening for quite a while and this is just one example. I don't mean to be confrontational or anything but the truth is the truth and I've seen value changes with my own eyes not so long ago
Didn't I just explain the Commando change in the previous post. Please read before posting.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Russel Mendoza
Klandatu
225
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:45:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:There have been no ninja changes for over a year that I can think of, except last week when I figured a last minute change wouldn't hurt anyone, added modules into the new slots on the APEX commandos, broke them by go over on pg/cpu, and then realized it would be a good idea to buff them all and align them all to the same values, like the grand plan dictates, resulting in one suit getting "ninja" nerfed.
If there are more, I will freely admit to them, but perpetuating this kind of misinformation that we are always somehow being untruthful and insincere is really aggravating.
Ok. How bout commandos getting their powergrid reduced and their cpu increased?
Link to the original post where the ninja nerf is admitted five times wrote:one of my galmando fittings became invalid overnight, because pg exceeded. wtf? CCP Rattati wrote:you didn't mention that cpu went also up.
We are aligning cpu and pg values across the different roles. Commandos will get a fitting bonus to something relevant for them later. Please CCP Rattati, you're doing a great job but you can't hide the sky with your hand. Stealth chanhes have been happening for quite a while and this is just one example. I don't mean to be confrontational or anything but the truth is the truth and I've seen value changes with my own eyes not so long ago Didn't I just explain the Commando change in the previous post. Please read before posting.
Rattati, you will never please every player in dust.
Now, let the quafe weapons be tradable.
Just saying.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:49:00 -
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jett it wrote:Great words there Rattati, thumbs up! ^ Plus love all the new updates hope there are many more to come :) We need quafe weapons tradable next plz, pretty plz, pretty pretty plz....
This
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XxGhazbaranxX
0.P.
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:49:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:There have been no ninja changes for over a year that I can think of, except last week when I figured a last minute change wouldn't hurt anyone, added modules into the new slots on the APEX commandos, broke them by go over on pg/cpu, and then realized it would be a good idea to buff them all and align them all to the same values, like the grand plan dictates, resulting in one suit getting "ninja" nerfed.
If there are more, I will freely admit to them, but perpetuating this kind of misinformation that we are always somehow being untruthful and insincere is really aggravating.
Ok. How bout commandos getting their powergrid reduced and their cpu increased?
Link to the original post where the ninja nerf is admitted five times wrote:one of my galmando fittings became invalid overnight, because pg exceeded. wtf? CCP Rattati wrote:you didn't mention that cpu went also up.
We are aligning cpu and pg values across the different roles. Commandos will get a fitting bonus to something relevant for them later. Please CCP Rattati, you're doing a great job but you can't hide the sky with your hand. Stealth chanhes have been happening for quite a while and this is just one example. I don't mean to be confrontational or anything but the truth is the truth and I've seen value changes with my own eyes not so long ago Didn't I just explain the Commando change in the previous post. Please read before posting.
I read, bit you meantioned apex. If it was all of them then I apologize and retract my statement and stand corrected since I was the one that told him about the stealth changes that had been very popular for a while. Even during big patches, half the thing we onlu found out about duing gameplay.
One of the biggest ones for me was the forge gun roind size. It used to be nig enough for decent anti-infantry work, now its literally am invisible dot in the center....
Anyways. I apologize if you had meant all commandos amd mot just the apex.
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Piercing Serenity
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
1
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Posted - 2015.07.29 15:21:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:There have been no ninja changes for over a year that I can think of, except last week when I figured a last minute change wouldn't hurt anyone, added modules into the new slots on the APEX commandos, broke them by go over on pg/cpu, and then realized it would be a good idea to buff them all and align them all to the same values, like the grand plan dictates, resulting in one suit getting "ninja" nerfed.
If there are more, I will freely admit to them, but perpetuating this kind of misinformation that we are always somehow being untruthful and insincere is really aggravating.
I can only imagine. However, I personally appreciate the work that's being done. I also don't see CCP, or your team, as an insincere or untruthful. Even more so during your time at the helm. Unfortunately, you have to deal with an ingrained expectation for over promising and under delivering that some players hang on to. Worse still, you had no control over that. But, know that many of the most influential and productive people on the forums see the good work that's going on, and don't see you in this way.
"For people who don't really do S**T, ya'll really doing the most"
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
467
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Posted - 2015.07.29 15:29:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:There have been no ninja changes for over a year that I can think of, except last week when I figured a last minute change wouldn't hurt anyone, added modules into the new slots on the APEX commandos, broke them by go over on pg/cpu, and then realized it would be a good idea to buff them all and align them all to the same values, like the grand plan dictates, resulting in one suit getting "ninja" nerfed.
If there are more, I will freely admit to them, but perpetuating this kind of misinformation that we are always somehow being untruthful and insincere is really aggravating.
Ok. How bout commandos getting their powergrid reduced and their cpu increased?
Link to the original post where the ninja nerf is admitted five times wrote:one of my galmando fittings became invalid overnight, because pg exceeded. wtf? CCP Rattati wrote:you didn't mention that cpu went also up.
We are aligning cpu and pg values across the different roles. Commandos will get a fitting bonus to something relevant for them later. Please CCP Rattati, you're doing a great job but you can't hide the sky with your hand. Stealth chanhes have been happening for quite a while and this is just one example. I don't mean to be confrontational or anything but the truth is the truth and I've seen value changes with my own eyes not so long ago Didn't I just explain the Commando change in the previous post. Please read before posting.
Price check, burn cream. Keep being awesome.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
822
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Posted - 2015.07.29 15:46:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:There have been no ninja changes for over a year that I can think of, except last week when I figured a last minute change wouldn't hurt anyone, added modules into the new slots on the APEX commandos, broke them by go over on pg/cpu, and then realized it would be a good idea to buff them all and align them all to the same values, like the grand plan dictates, resulting in one suit getting "ninja" nerfed.
If there are more, I will freely admit to them, but perpetuating this kind of misinformation that we are always somehow being untruthful and insincere is really aggravating.
Don't worry, when people have an off day and they can't seem to kill anything, the easiest thing is to blame it on something else.
You shouldn't take it too personal, it's just peoples insecurities and unwillingness to consider it's their fault, you can't really hold human nature against them too harshly after all.
The C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y,
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Songs of Seraphim
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
1
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Posted - 2015.07.29 15:50:00 -
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While we are on the topic of "ninja nerfs": were the profile of Swarm Launchers altered? And why haven't the Balac's suit and Storm Raider's been fixed while the other officer suits have been returned to pre-bugged status?
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Loyalist of the State
Reclaim Caldari Prime!
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
6
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Posted - 2015.07.29 15:52:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:There have been no ninja changes for over a year that I can think of, except last week when I figured a last minute change wouldn't hurt anyone, added modules into the new slots on the APEX commandos, broke them by go over on pg/cpu, and then realized it would be a good idea to buff them all and align them all to the same values, like the grand plan dictates, resulting in one suit getting "ninja" nerfed.
If there are more, I will freely admit to them, but perpetuating this kind of misinformation that we are always somehow being untruthful and insincere is really aggravating.
And that is why most of the community have come to trust Rattati. He is a most transparent Dev.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Boot Booter
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.07.29 16:04:00 -
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Stop aggravating our best Dev you ungrateful plebs. I have faith in Rats methods and he has my approval to make any changes ninja or transparent. Cuz maths |

NIETZCHES OVERMAN
Velociraptors With Violent Tendencies
140
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Posted - 2015.07.29 17:07:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:There have been no ninja changes for over a year that I can think of, except last week when I figured a last minute change wouldn't hurt anyone, added modules into the new slots on the APEX commandos, broke them by go over on pg/cpu, and then realized it would be a good idea to buff them all and align them all to the same values, like the grand plan dictates, resulting in one suit getting "ninja" nerfed.
If there are more, I will freely admit to them, but perpetuating this kind of misinformation that we are always somehow being untruthful and insincere is really aggravating.
Distrust of authority is American, righteous, smart, and part of higher evolution. Deal... HTFU
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NIETZCHES OVERMAN
Velociraptors With Violent Tendencies
140
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Posted - 2015.07.29 17:09:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:There have been no ninja changes for over a year that I can think of, except last week when I figured a last minute change wouldn't hurt anyone, added modules into the new slots on the APEX commandos, broke them by go over on pg/cpu, and then realized it would be a good idea to buff them all and align them all to the same values, like the grand plan dictates, resulting in one suit getting "ninja" nerfed.
If there are more, I will freely admit to them, but perpetuating this kind of misinformation that we are always somehow being untruthful and insincere is really aggravating.
Don't worry, when people have an off day and they can't seem to kill anything, the easiest thing is to blame it on something else. You shouldn't take it too personal, it's just peoples insecurities and unwillingness to consider it's their fault, you can't really hold human nature against them too harshly after all. Keep sucking that CCP DEV DIIIIIICK.....
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Keeriam Miray
Nos Nothi
533
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Posted - 2015.07.29 17:27:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2840032#post2840032
CCP Rattati wrote:I can't support a turning speed change, I remember having no recourse as a heavy and it also messes up people who play multiple roles, needing to adjust to them. Yet, it happened. Ninja nerf to armor plates for turning & aiming speed. What our best dev (can't accept that) come up with for that?
"Call no man happy til he is dead. Happy, happy, happy, happy, happy..."
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Raven-747
WarRavens RUST415
133
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Posted - 2015.07.29 17:31:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Ice Royal Glantix wrote:A corpmate of mine is saying the CCP frequently makes changes to things in the game, such as weapons, without telling anyone. Apparently the Combat Rifle had it's burst delay changed a couple of weeks ago, and it's damage vs. shields was also dropped recently as well. Is my corpmate just delusional? Or have these nerfs actually taken place? The ScR had a heat build up increase. And damage reduction*
Buff my Scr back or suffer the wrath of the Empire.
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
2
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Posted - 2015.07.29 17:40:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:There have been no ninja changes for over a year that I can think of, except last week when I figured a last minute change wouldn't hurt anyone, added modules into the new slots on the APEX commandos, broke them by go over on pg/cpu, and then realized it would be a good idea to buff them all and align them all to the same values, like the grand plan dictates, resulting in one suit getting "ninja" nerfed.
If there are more, I will freely admit to them, but perpetuating this kind of misinformation that we are always somehow being untruthful and insincere is really aggravating.
You took a high slot from my eon mlt heavy. I want it back
Crush them
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
25

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Posted - 2015.07.29 18:27:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:There have been no ninja changes for over a year that I can think of, except last week when I figured a last minute change wouldn't hurt anyone, added modules into the new slots on the APEX commandos, broke them by go over on pg/cpu, and then realized it would be a good idea to buff them all and align them all to the same values, like the grand plan dictates, resulting in one suit getting "ninja" nerfed.
If there are more, I will freely admit to them, but perpetuating this kind of misinformation that we are always somehow being untruthful and insincere is really aggravating.
Ok. How bout commandos getting their powergrid reduced and their cpu increased?
Link to the original post where the ninja nerf is admitted five times wrote:one of my galmando fittings became invalid overnight, because pg exceeded. wtf? CCP Rattati wrote:you didn't mention that cpu went also up.
We are aligning cpu and pg values across the different roles. Commandos will get a fitting bonus to something relevant for them later. Please CCP Rattati, you're doing a great job but you can't hide the sky with your hand. Stealth chanhes have been happening for quite a while and this is just one example. I don't mean to be confrontational or anything but the truth is the truth and I've seen value changes with my own eyes not so long ago Didn't I just explain the Commando change in the previous post. Please read before posting. I read, bit you meantioned apex. If it was all of them then I apologize and retract my statement and stand corrected since I was the one that told him about the stealth changes that had been very popular for a while. Even during big patches, half the thing we onlu found out about duing gameplay. One of the biggest ones for me was the forge gun roind size. It used to be nig enough for decent anti-infantry work, now its literally am invisible dot in the center.... Anyways. I apologize if you had meant all commandos amd mot just the apex. We have never changed the size of the forge gun projectile, ever
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
25

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Posted - 2015.07.29 18:28:00 -
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Keeriam Miray wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2840032#post2840032 CCP Rattati wrote:I can't support a turning speed change, I remember having no recourse as a heavy and it also messes up people who play multiple roles, needing to adjust to them. Yet, it happened. Ninja nerf to armor plates for turning & aiming speed. What our best dev (can't accept that) come up with for that? We have never changed the turning or aiming speed
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
25

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Posted - 2015.07.29 18:30:00 -
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Raven-747 wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Ice Royal Glantix wrote:A corpmate of mine is saying the CCP frequently makes changes to things in the game, such as weapons, without telling anyone. Apparently the Combat Rifle had it's burst delay changed a couple of weeks ago, and it's damage vs. shields was also dropped recently as well. Is my corpmate just delusional? Or have these nerfs actually taken place? The ScR had a heat build up increase. And damage reduction*
That was not a ninja nerf, it was an unintentional side-effect of changing the ROF, that later was returned to normal.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Keeriam Miray
Nos Nothi
537
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Posted - 2015.07.29 18:36:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Keeriam Miray wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2840032#post2840032 CCP Rattati wrote:I can't support a turning speed change, I remember having no recourse as a heavy and it also messes up people who play multiple roles, needing to adjust to them. Yet, it happened. Ninja nerf to armor plates for turning & aiming speed. What our best dev (can't accept that) come up with for that? We have never changed the turning or aiming speed I tested it few days ago & just yesterday to be sure. Jump in game & see for yourself, regular armor plates significantly drops turning & aiming speed.
"Call no man happy til he is dead. Happy, happy, happy, happy, happy..."
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
12
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Posted - 2015.07.29 18:38:00 -
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Keeriam Miray wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2840032#post2840032 CCP Rattati wrote:I can't support a turning speed change, I remember having no recourse as a heavy and it also messes up people who play multiple roles, needing to adjust to them. Yet, it happened. Ninja nerf to armor plates for turning & aiming speed. What our best dev (can't accept that) come up with for that?
Keeriam Miray wrote: I tested it few days ago & just yesterday to be sure. Jump in game & see for yourself, regular armor plates significantly drops turning & aiming speed.
Ready the potato cam, Keeriam! Show us what you're seeing.
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Keeriam Miray
Nos Nothi
538
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Posted - 2015.07.29 18:51:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ready the potato cam, Keeriam! Show us what you're seeing. Lmao, but no. I asked Duncan, video is coming (in good quality ).
"Call no man happy til he is dead. Happy, happy, happy, happy, happy..."
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David Spd
Caldari State
201
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Posted - 2015.07.29 19:02:00 -
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Mistakes =/= ninja nerfs. Would the community kindly let this crap go? Rattati has stated multiple times that "ninja nerfs" are usually just mistakes on their part and people keep thinking they're doing malicious things.
Just stop people; you're making yourselves look dense.
--> I'm a closed beta vet; I just don't post often <--
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