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Vell0cet
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.29 21:09:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Vell0cet wrote:For PC cons, you forgot to mention botting/hacking/ISK sellers. On the PC it's a lot easier for cheaters/spammers to produce automated tools that will ruin the game. I really don't think CCP is capable of managing this problem with the existing resources. You're talking about hiring an army of people to keep on top of the problem. That's a huge chunk of the budget that could otherwise go to employing artists, coders, etc. CCP doesn't have that kind of problem in Eve Online. They have an entire security team dedicated to just that alone and they are very effective at cracking down on bot users, RMT rings, and more. They even have a Fanfest keynote about it every year showing how they are doing. And let me tell you, it's amazing how much they achieved. One little-known fact here is that Tranquility is a very peculiar server. It monitors everything and tracks everything. But it doesn't stop there. It has its own built in system that detects unusual activity based on numerous factors including human behavior patterns and then flags those unusual activities for the security team to then look into. They even figured out how to connect two seemingly unrelated accounts together that were involved in RMT rings. Just ask the Eve Online players. They will tell you this. No joke. If Dust were to ever get ported over to the PC, it will only enhance the connection to the Tranquility server which means one thing. Big Brother will now be able to watch you even more. PS: Any attempt to manipulate data streaming between the client and server is also carefully monitored in Eve Online.
That's true, but all of that behavior that gets monitored has to be coded into the server. It still requires manpower to review and enforce. EVE has paying subscribers to offset that expense. Assuming the DUST port would remain free-to-play, this could represent a significant increase in resources to keep under control. It's not something that magically happens just by running DUST with a PC on tranquility. You're still talking about a significant chunk of resources dedicated to solving those problems. Apparently the PS4 is more easily hackable though, so the point may be less pertinent.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2015.07.29 21:40:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Vell0cet wrote:For PC cons, you forgot to mention botting/hacking/ISK sellers. On the PC it's a lot easier for cheaters/spammers to produce automated tools that will ruin the game. I really don't think CCP is capable of managing this problem with the existing resources. You're talking about hiring an army of people to keep on top of the problem. That's a huge chunk of the budget that could otherwise go to employing artists, coders, etc. CCP doesn't have that kind of problem in Eve Online. They have an entire security team dedicated to just that alone and they are very effective at cracking down on bot users, RMT rings, and more. They even have a Fanfest keynote about it every year showing how they are doing. And let me tell you, it's amazing how much they achieved. One little-known fact here is that Tranquility is a very peculiar server. It monitors everything and tracks everything. But it doesn't stop there. It has its own built in system that detects unusual activity based on numerous factors including human behavior patterns and then flags those unusual activities for the security team to then look into. They even figured out how to connect two seemingly unrelated accounts together that were involved in RMT rings. Just ask the Eve Online players. They will tell you this. No joke. If Dust were to ever get ported over to the PC, it will only enhance the connection to the Tranquility server which means one thing. Big Brother will now be able to watch you even more. PS: Any attempt to manipulate data streaming between the client and server is also carefully monitored in Eve Online. That's true, but all of that behavior that gets monitored has to be coded into the server. It still requires manpower to review and enforce. EVE has paying subscribers to offset that expense. Assuming the DUST port would remain free-to-play, this could represent a significant increase in resources to keep under control. It's not something that magically happens just by running DUST with a PC on tranquility. You're still talking about a significant chunk of resources dedicated to solving those problems. Apparently the PS4 is more easily hackable though, so the point may be less pertinent.
From what I gather about the PS4, you are correct to assume that the PS4 is a little more hackable. Hell, there is even an article you can look up on Google telling you how to put together a PC to emulate a PS4 with almost similar hardware specs at almost the same cost as a PS4. And if what Jadek Menaheim is speculating is true, then we can expect to see similar levels of hacking on the PS4 as if Dust went to the PC.
You are also correct about the free-to-play model being a factor, but don't forget that there are players who are willing to spend more money on this game if it was ported either way. I'm one of those players.
As for coding the behavior tracking programs onto the server to take care of Dust, I don't see CCP having too much trouble dealing with that. It would still take time and resources like you said, but probably not as much as it did when CCP had to first start doing that for Eve Online back in the days when the security team was just getting started.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.07.29 21:43:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Even if a PC game would be a better game (i own a ps4 and i hope in a console port), it would be plagued with cheaters.
The consoles are also full of cheaters. They just cheat differently.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.07.29 21:50:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:
Before dust 514 was created hardly any console gamers, psn, Xbox live or Nintendo ever heard of eve online. CCP meant for dust to be an introduction of EVE online into the console universe, that along with the stern fact that there is no blockbuster shooter title for Playstation on the ranks of halo for Xbox means that if CCP went with a pc port all the way, they are basically kissing consoles goodbye forever, CCP's reputations is one of the worst in the gaming industry, give that along with the fact that they essentially wasted 4 years if console players time (closes beta), nobody will ever trust CCP again.
As I pointed out already on my original post, regardless of which way Dust 514 gets ported over, one group (console players) or the other (PC players) will get shafted.
PC players like the ones on Eve Online are expecting CCP to port Dust 514 over to their platform based on what CCP Rouge said back at Fanfest 2014.
Console players are hedging their bets that Dust 514 would port over to the PS4 on the theory that since Dust is a PlayStation game it will force CCP to stick to their console player base. But those players are ignoring the fact that much of the current Dust players (however many they are) originate from Eve Online or have moved over to Eve Online because of Dust. However, they do have a few pros going for them especially with the convenience factor I mentioned earlier. So who knows?
So unless CCP can somehow pull off a dual port for both PC and the PS4, someone is going to get pissed off.
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Ghosts Chance
Intara Direct Action
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:02:00 -
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dust will never be ported end of story.
this is the end for dust as technically speaking its been a financial failure.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:11:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:dust will never be ported end of story.
this is the end for dust as technically speaking its been a financial failure.
Sir, as I explained before, it is not just the surface of the car. Your Trollsroyce needs remodeling and its superstructure is in dire need of reinforcing. Maybe if you hadn't gotten it too damaged before you brought it here.
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Alaika Arbosa
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:15:00 -
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I feel like Dust is a console game and it should stay that way after the port.
However, if it could be ported to PS4 and PC would be best.
There is also the argument that Steam inclusion would allow cross platform in the form of PC and Steam Machines (not really well versed about these but they do look kinda interesting).
Either way, I will still be playing, I do think though that we should do a full reset for all.
When I say full reset, I mean, keep all AUR/AUR items and BPOs/SKINs as well as Skillpoints, everything else goes bye bye.
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:18:00 -
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PS4 and XB1 cross platform
As CCP originally intended
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:20:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:I feel like Dust is a console game and it should stay that way after the port.
However, if it could be ported to PS4 and PC would be best.
There is also the argument that Steam inclusion would allow cross platform in the form of PC and Steam Machines (not really well versed about these but they do look kinda interesting).
Either way, I will still be playing, I do think though that we should do a full reset for all.
When I say full reset, I mean, keep all AUR/AUR items and BPOs/SKINs as well as Skillpoints, everything else goes bye bye.
The question is how many PS3 owners will be willing to trade in their PS3 for a Steam Box?
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:21:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:dust will never be ported end of story.
this is the end for dust as technically speaking its been a financial failure. Sir, as I explained before, it is not just the surface of the car. Your Trollsroyce needs remodeling and its superstructure is in dire need of reinforcing. Maybe if you hadn't gotten it too damaged before you brought it here.
seriously though, dust is going to stay on PS3 untill suppport drops and then that will be it...
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Void Echo
Helix Terrestrial Operations LLC
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:22:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Void Echo wrote:
Before dust 514 was created hardly any console gamers, psn, Xbox live or Nintendo ever heard of eve online. CCP meant for dust to be an introduction of EVE online into the console universe, that along with the stern fact that there is no blockbuster shooter title for Playstation on the ranks of halo for Xbox means that if CCP went with a pc port all the way, they are basically kissing consoles goodbye forever, CCP's reputations is one of the worst in the gaming industry, give that along with the fact that they essentially wasted 4 years if console players time (closes beta), nobody will ever trust CCP again.
As I pointed out already on my original post, regardless of which way Dust 514 gets ported over, one group (console players) or the other (PC players) will get shafted. PC players like the ones on Eve Online are expecting CCP to port Dust 514 over to their platform based on what CCP Rouge said back at Fanfest 2014. Console players are hedging their bets that Dust 514 would port over to the PS4 on the theory that since Dust is a PlayStation game it will force CCP to stick to their console player base. But those players are ignoring the fact that much of the current Dust players (however many they are) originate from Eve Online or have moved over to Eve Online because of Dust. However, they do have a few pros going for them especially with the convenience factor I mentioned earlier. So who knows? So unless CCP can somehow pull off a dual port for both PC and the PS4, someone is going to get pissed off.
Just keep in mind that if the **** console gamers off, there essentially banning themselves from coming back to the console
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:22:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:PS4 and XB1 cross platform
As CCP originally intended
Just one problem.
CCP tried to include the Xbox 360 along with the PS3 but ended up realizing that Microsoft wanted far too much control over the connection to the Tranquility server.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:23:00 -
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I've always been pro PS4 because hacking/botting will be a bigger pita than on PC. But those are merely technical issues.
On PS4, banning the PSN account is what raises the stakes and this is what would be the primary deterrent imo. Hacking might be attractive on a throw-away account but never on a main.
Also would track mac addresses as well as do some datamining to facilitate banning an individual's multiple PSN accounts.
No anti-hacking/botting system will be perfect, but on console it's far easier to raise the technical challenge as well as the repercussions of cheating.
Finally and most importantly, this is only relevant if Dust is connected in some meaningful way to EVE, with the outcomes of terrestrial battles somehow affecting the geopolitics of New Eden and various strategic resources. If Dust ends up as a standalone second-rate lobby shooter on another platform, i don't give two fuks about hacking/botting because i won't be there.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:24:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Void Echo wrote:
Before dust 514 was created hardly any console gamers, psn, Xbox live or Nintendo ever heard of eve online. CCP meant for dust to be an introduction of EVE online into the console universe, that along with the stern fact that there is no blockbuster shooter title for Playstation on the ranks of halo for Xbox means that if CCP went with a pc port all the way, they are basically kissing consoles goodbye forever, CCP's reputations is one of the worst in the gaming industry, give that along with the fact that they essentially wasted 4 years if console players time (closes beta), nobody will ever trust CCP again.
As I pointed out already on my original post, regardless of which way Dust 514 gets ported over, one group (console players) or the other (PC players) will get shafted. PC players like the ones on Eve Online are expecting CCP to port Dust 514 over to their platform based on what CCP Rouge said back at Fanfest 2014. Console players are hedging their bets that Dust 514 would port over to the PS4 on the theory that since Dust is a PlayStation game it will force CCP to stick to their console player base. But those players are ignoring the fact that much of the current Dust players (however many they are) originate from Eve Online or have moved over to Eve Online because of Dust. However, they do have a few pros going for them especially with the convenience factor I mentioned earlier. So who knows? So unless CCP can somehow pull off a dual port for both PC and the PS4, someone is going to get pissed off. Just keep in mind that if the **** console gamers off, there essentially banning themselves from coming back to the console
Then pray to the flying spaghetti monster that CCP does a dual port.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:26:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:dust will never be ported end of story.
this is the end for dust as technically speaking its been a financial failure. Sir, as I explained before, it is not just the surface of the car. Your Trollsroyce needs remodeling and its superstructure is in dire need of reinforcing. Maybe if you hadn't gotten it too damaged before you brought it here. seriously though, dust is going to stay on PS3 untill suppport drops and then that will be it...
The name Dust 514 will likely stay on the PS3 anyways as I clearly stated a page or two ago given what we know about the recent changes posted on the US Patent & Trademark Office. If Dust ever gets ported over, it will likely be under a different name. No one knows what the name could be.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:29:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:I've always been pro PS4 because hacking/botting will be a bigger pita than on PC. But those are merely technical issues.
On PS4, banning the PSN account is what raises the stakes and this is what would be the primary deterrent imo. Hacking might be attractive on a throw-away account but never on a main.
Also would track mac addresses as well as do some datamining to facilitate banning an individual's multiple PSN accounts.
No anti-hacking/botting system will be perfect, but on console it's far easier to raise the technical challenge as well as the repercussions of cheating.
Finally and most importantly, this is only relevant if Dust is connected in some meaningful way to EVE, with the outcomes of terrestrial battles somehow affecting the geopolitics of New Eden and various strategic resources. If Dust ends up as a standalone second-rate lobby shooter on another platform, i don't give two fuks about hacking/botting because i won't be there.
People said the same thing about the PSN IDs on the PS3. Don't forget that free-to-play games are exempt from requiring any paid subscription with PS+ for the PS4 for multiplayer.
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:43:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:dust will never be ported end of story.
this is the end for dust as technically speaking its been a financial failure. Sir, as I explained before, it is not just the surface of the car. Your Trollsroyce needs remodeling and its superstructure is in dire need of reinforcing. Maybe if you hadn't gotten it too damaged before you brought it here. seriously though, dust is going to stay on PS3 untill suppport drops and then that will be it... The name Dust 514 will likely stay on the PS3 anyways as I clearly stated a page or two ago given what we know about the recent changes posted on the US Patent & Trademark Office. If Dust ever gets ported over, it will likely be under a different name. No one knows what the name could be.
no i mean dust as a first person shooter in the form its in not name alone.
legion will never be completed (currently doesnt even have staff alocated to it....)
CCP will go a significant amount of time without haveing an FPS title of any sort on any platform once dust shuts down.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:47:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:dust will never be ported end of story.
this is the end for dust as technically speaking its been a financial failure. Sir, as I explained before, it is not just the surface of the car. Your Trollsroyce needs remodeling and its superstructure is in dire need of reinforcing. Maybe if you hadn't gotten it too damaged before you brought it here. seriously though, dust is going to stay on PS3 untill suppport drops and then that will be it... The name Dust 514 will likely stay on the PS3 anyways as I clearly stated a page or two ago given what we know about the recent changes posted on the US Patent & Trademark Office. If Dust ever gets ported over, it will likely be under a different name. No one knows what the name could be. no i mean dust as a first person shooter in the form its in not name alone. legion will never be completed (currently doesnt even have staff alocated to it....) CCP will go a significant amount of time without haveing an FPS title of any sort on any platform once dust shuts down.
The price still stands at 30 million ISK to repair your Trollsroyce and it will take 3 weeks to finish with the repairs.
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:55:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:
The price still stands at 30 million ISK to repair your Trollsroyce and it will take 3 weeks to finish with the repairs.
not trolling, its the reality that CPM2 is soon going to find out :P
lets look at the facts
Dust will not survive 2 years, its maximum lifespan is about 1.5 years from now.
all legion development has stopped and staff has been repurposed to VR projects
creating a new FPS is going to take alot longer than 1.5 years
porting dust over directly in its current state (or even its 1.5 year from now state) to ps4 or other platform is definatly not goingg to happen the second the ps3 version closes down and its certainly not goin to happen before dust ends.
therefore we can pretty much guarentee that theres is going to be AT LEAST a 2 year gap between the end of dust and the introduction of its replacement.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:55:00 -
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In case no one got my references.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:57:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:
The price still stands at 30 million ISK to repair your Trollsroyce and it will take 3 weeks to finish with the repairs.
not trolling, its the reality that CPM2 is soon going to find out :P lets look at the facts Dust will not survive 2 years, its maximum lifespan is about 1.5 years from now. all legion development has stopped and staff has been repurposed to VR projects creating a new FPS is going to take alot longer than 1.5 years porting dust over directly in its current state (or even its 1.5 year from now state) to ps4 or other platform is definatly not goingg to happen the second the ps3 version closes down and its certainly not goin to happen before dust ends. therefore we can pretty much guarentee that theres is going to be AT LEAST a 2 year gap between the end of dust and the introduction of its replacement.
God damn it, John. You're not going to get me to lower the price of the repairs. 30 million ISK or I give back your chassis which was all there was left when you brought it here.
PS: Next time get insurance.
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2015.07.29 23:10:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:
The price still stands at 30 million ISK to repair your Trollsroyce and it will take 3 weeks to finish with the repairs.
not trolling, its the reality that CPM2 is soon going to find out :P lets look at the facts Dust will not survive 2 years, its maximum lifespan is about 1.5 years from now. all legion development has stopped and staff has been repurposed to VR projects creating a new FPS is going to take alot longer than 1.5 years porting dust over directly in its current state (or even its 1.5 year from now state) to ps4 or other platform is definatly not goingg to happen the second the ps3 version closes down and its certainly not goin to happen before dust ends. therefore we can pretty much guarentee that theres is going to be AT LEAST a 2 year gap between the end of dust and the introduction of its replacement. God damn it, John. You're not going to get me to lower the price of the repairs. 30 million ISK or I give back your chassis which was all there was left when you brought it here. PS: Next time get insurance.
yah... im not watching that thing just to attempt to understand why you think thats a relevent responce....
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.07.29 23:17:00 -
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@Ghosts Chance
If you don't understand why I gave you such a response then there is no hope for you.
PS: We are trying to have a civilized discussion over here. You being all doom and gloom about the game is not contributing to the discussion.
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2015.07.29 23:51:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:@Ghosts Chance
If you don't understand why I gave you such a response then there is no hope for you.
PS: We are trying to have a civilized discussion over here. You being all doom and gloom about the game is not contributing to the discussion.
PPS: If you somehow know this game is dead, then please leave and let us all wallow in our own ignorance. Clearly you are superior to us in knowledge.
you should be focusing yyour energy enjoying what we have now for as long as we still have it, i hate seeing all this wasted effort that could be used to give the game a better sendoff.
at this point people will be chanting for a port right untill the end rather than coming up with fun stuff to do with what we have.
were not getting a port plain and simple. use your energy for something more useful already.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.07.29 23:56:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:@Ghosts Chance
If you don't understand why I gave you such a response then there is no hope for you.
PS: We are trying to have a civilized discussion over here. You being all doom and gloom about the game is not contributing to the discussion.
PPS: If you somehow know this game is dead, then please leave and let us all wallow in our own ignorance. Clearly you are superior to us in knowledge. you should be focusing yyour energy enjoying what we have now for as long as we still have it, i hate seeing all this wasted effort that could be used to give the game a better sendoff. at this point people will be chanting for a port right untill the end rather than coming up with fun stuff to do with what we have. were not getting a port plain and simple. use your energy for something more useful already.
Of course, my lord. I bow to your every whim. Clearly you work for CCP and we should all listen to you and forget everything we just said. You are the master of your domain.
In case you don't get it by now, I'm just as sick and tired of people like you being all doom and gloom when we just want to have fun. You claim that we should have fun yet you come in with doom and gloom. The door is that way if you want to leave. No one is stopping you.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.07.30 00:04:00 -
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Anyways, back to the REAL topic at hand.
As you can all see from the pros and cons of porting to either platform, the community seems to be at a slight impasse. We all want a port, but there is no clear agreement on where we should go.
Considering that our current CPM1 representative Dennie Fleetfoot (CEO of Dust University) is running again for CPM2 and told us that he wouldn't otherwise has run again for the CPM if he saw there was no future for Dust, I'm confident Dust will live on in a different platform although possibly with a different name.
And since CEO Hilmar of CCP and maybe CCP Rouge and CCP Rattati together mentioned or hinted during Fanfest 2015 that Dust will be like a train that goes through various stops along the way, this only reinforces my belief that we will see Dust live on past the PS3. We just don't know where the next train stop will be.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2015.07.30 00:07:00 -
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Overall, I'm happy that the rest of the people posting on this thread were very civilized and upbeat during this discussion and let us all hope that CCP listens and perhaps also hope that the CPM2 will be able to persuade CCP to port Dust one way or the other or both.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2015.07.30 00:11:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:In regards to my 4th point about the pros of porting Dust to the PC:
4. Dust 514 players will have access to better tools that may not be normally practical to implement on a console setting.
This is something that will likely benefit vehicle users such as dropship pilots. Since the dropship is handling like a helicopter, a joystick becomes more practical to have and use compared to a controller or even a keyboard. Although joysticks can be connected to the console if they are designed for it and if the console can accept the hardware, but so far Dust doesn't seem to be coded to accept the joystick so players are stuck with the controller and keyboard for now.
But still, a part of me also wants Dust on the PS4 for reasons I have already explained.
What do you all think about this point in particular?
Besides Ace Combat, does anyone else know of any other console-based game that relies on a console-specific peripheral like a joystick?
Just added that last bit in.
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Meee One
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Posted - 2015.07.30 00:19:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Anyways, back to the REAL topic at hand.
As you can all see from the pros and cons of porting to either platform, the community seems to be at a slight impasse. We all want a port, but there is no clear agreement on where we should go.
Considering that our current CPM1 representative Dennie Fleetfoot (CEO of Dust University) is running again for CPM2 and told us that he wouldn't otherwise has run again for the CPM if he saw there was no future for Dust, I'm confident Dust will live on in a different platform although possibly with a different name.
And since CEO Hilmar of CCP and maybe CCP Rouge and CCP Rattati together mentioned or hinted during Fanfest 2015 that Dust will be like a train that goes through various stops along the way, this only reinforces my belief that we will see Dust live on past the PS3. We just don't know where the next train stop will be.
Actually the train reference makes perfect sense.
1)Trains can only move on rails,and if Dust is this said train currently...
That would mean the rails are the console it's using to go forward.
And the stops are the transition between console generations.
(Dust will stay on consoles,even through console changes.)
-or-
2) They thought Dust would fail,and they'd try to relaunch at a later date.
(We dun goof'd.)
I'm shooting for #1
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