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BARAGAMOS wrote:

GOING TO TYPE THIS IN CAPS SO THE QQ CAN STOP.

THE ARR IS ONLY DECENT RIGHT NOW BECASUE ARMOR IS THE META. THEY ARE WORKING AS INTENDED. IF YOU ARE HAVING K/D ISSUES TRY RUNNING ANOTHER FIT. THE PLAYERS HAVE ADAPTED TO THE STACKING OF ARMOR AND THE ORIGINAL POSTER/ OTHERS ARE JUST CRYING BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEEP KILLLING WITH STACKED ARMOR AND SCRAMBLERS. IN A SPLIT META (ARMOR AND SHIELD SUITS) THE ARR IS UNDER DPS ON AVERAGE. IT IS MEANT TO BE AN ACCURATE WEAPON THAT PEELS ARMOR. SO DONT RUN ALL ARMOR AND EXPECT IT TO NOT PACK A PUNCH. STOP CRYING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT BROKEN AND ADAPT. TRY RUNNING MORE SHIELDS AND YOU WILL FIND THAT THE FACT YOU CAN NOW CLOSE THE GAP ON AN ARR FASTER AND THE ADDED SHIELD MAKES YOUR SURVIVABILITY MUCH HIGHER.

SO LET THIS THREAD DIE AS ITS FULL OF ANECODOTAL CRYING WITH NO FACTUAL BASIS FROM GUYS WANTING TO BRICK TANK. THERE ARE REALLY ONLY THREE GUNS THAT ARE OUT OF LINE RIGHT NOW WHEN ACTUAL TESTIN COMES INTO PLAY. THE SCRAMBLER FAMILY, THE BP, AND THE AHMG HAVE MOUNTAINS OF REAL EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT AN ADJUSTMENT. THE ARR DOES NOT. THAT IS FOR A REASON. ITS JUST STRONG IN THE CURRENT META NOT OVERALL.

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Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.07.25 22:25:00 - [61] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I'm actually finding myself playing on my Caldari alt more now due to the simple fact that I get pissed off losing to weapons I have no business losing to in CQC consistently. Sighs, I don't understand why CCP can't wrap their heads around DPS vs Range. It's pretty damn simple. DPS goes down as range goes up unless acted upon by a long reload time or other outlier factor. Rifles don't suffer from weird outlier factors, they are pretty basic weapons when it comes to functionality, the only one that has an outlier is the scrambler. Goes back to caldari alt killing people left and right with ARR Disgusting... lmao where were yall these past seven months? The ARR has always been my weapon of choice since they nerfed the CR. Every game gets ruined by the casuals sooner or later. mwsrage_5 for ESO
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 10	Posted - 2015.07.26 00:44:00 - [62] - Quote Quote: Armor meta hasn't changed in a year, so it's not that. Armor meta has changed twice in the last year. The second buff introduced ferros and reactive at the same time shields ate their big nerf. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Yeeeuuuupppp Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.07.26 00:46:00 - [63] - Quote I guess I know what I'm using when I return *I'll boop you with a plasma Cannon* PSN: GMANCASH "I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 129	Posted - 2015.07.26 01:33:00 - [64] - Quote GOING TO TYPE THIS IN CAPS SO THE QQ CAN STOP. THE ARR IS ONLY DECENT RIGHT NOW BECASUE ARMOR IS THE META. THEY ARE WORKING AS INTENDED. IF YOU ARE HAVING K/D ISSUES TRY RUNNING ANOTHER FIT. THE PLAYERS HAVE ADAPTED TO THE STACKING OF ARMOR AND THE ORIGINAL POSTER/ OTHERS ARE JUST CRYING BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEEP KILLLING WITH STACKED ARMOR AND SCRAMBLERS. IN A SPLIT META (ARMOR AND SHIELD SUITS) THE ARR IS UNDER DPS ON AVERAGE. IT IS MEANT TO BE AN ACCURATE WEAPON THAT PEELS ARMOR. SO DONT RUN ALL ARMOR AND EXPECT IT TO NOT PACK A PUNCH. STOP CRYING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT BROKEN AND ADAPT. TRY RUNNING MORE SHIELDS AND YOU WILL FIND THAT THE FACT YOU CAN NOW CLOSE THE GAP ON AN ARR FASTER AND THE ADDED SHIELD MAKES YOUR SURVIVABILITY MUCH HIGHER. SO LET THIS THREAD DIE AS ITS FULL OF ANECODOTAL CRYING WITH NO FACTUAL BASIS FROM GUYS WANTING TO BRICK TANK. THERE ARE REALLY ONLY THREE GUNS THAT ARE OUT OF LINE RIGHT NOW WHEN ACTUAL TESTIN COMES INTO PLAY. THE SCRAMBLER FAMILY, THE BP, AND THE AHMG HAVE MOUNTAINS OF REAL EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT AN ADJUSTMENT. THE ARR DOES NOT. THAT IS FOR A REASON. ITS JUST STRONG IN THE CURRENT META NOT OVERALL.
VAHZZ Vader's-Fist 5	Posted - 2015.07.26 01:35:00 - [65] - Quote You want to stop QQ? You heard em guys, LET THE TEARS CONTINUE! The Revanchist. Vader's Fist - Under our might, everything will burn
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 9	Posted - 2015.09.11 20:16:00 - [66] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I'm actually finding myself playing on my Caldari alt more now due to the simple fact that I get pissed off losing to weapons I have no business losing to in CQC consistently. Sighs, I don't understand why CCP can't wrap their heads around DPS vs Range. It's pretty damn simple. DPS goes down as range goes up unless acted upon by a long reload time or other outlier factor. Rifles don't suffer from weird outlier factors, they are pretty basic weapons when it comes to functionality, the only one that has an outlier is the scrambler. Goes back to caldari alt killing people left and right with ARR Disgusting... It's simple if you understand the underlying nature of Caldari weaponry v everyone else, particularly Gallente. Caldari and Gallente weapons all derive from a common ancestor - hybrid. But Gallente went for short range, high power blasters, and Caldari went for the long range version, railguns. This is all fundamental to the lore of the EvE Universe. Translate that into hand held weapons, you get Gallente assault rifles, ie blasters, and Caldari rail guns, ie rail rifles. The assault variant is a bastardisation to suit the player community of Dust that just want everything the same, but according to the lore of EvE, it never will be. Minmatar use explosive, projectile weaponry because it's simple and easiest to make but they've developed it to be very effective. Amarr, being the oldest and most advanced race of EvE, use energy weapons. The thing of range v DPS is absolutely part of EvE. I don't understand why it's not part of Dust, other than the aforementioned player influence. Handheld weapons need to be reasonably powerful at short range. So variants need to be developed of all the longer range weapons that allow that. Blasters are the most powerful weapon in the EvE universe but are very short range, so their range needs to be made long enough to be useful in the field. But without leaving behind the lore of EvE, blasters will never be as long range as railguns and railguns will never be as short range as blasters. So there will always be a discrepancy between the range and DPS of assault rifles and rail rifles. The ARR is the problem. It theoretically should not exist. Rail rifles don't have the capacity for short range, high DPS, like assault rifles. So there should be no assault variant. Yet again CCP has ruined the concepts of the game, relaxing the racial rules to allow everyone to use everything (something that wasn't actually really that easy in the first place) and then making some but not all weapons as good as others, which just leads to an endless cycle of FOTM-nerf/buff-FOTM. Rinse, repeat.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 9	Posted - 2015.09.11 20:26:00 - [67] - Quote BARAGAMOS wrote: GOING TO TYPE THIS IN CAPS SO THE QQ CAN STOP. THE ARR IS ONLY DECENT RIGHT NOW BECASUE ARMOR IS THE META. THEY ARE WORKING AS INTENDED. IF YOU ARE HAVING K/D ISSUES TRY RUNNING ANOTHER FIT. THE PLAYERS HAVE ADAPTED TO THE STACKING OF ARMOR AND THE ORIGINAL POSTER/ OTHERS ARE JUST CRYING BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEEP KILLLING WITH STACKED ARMOR AND SCRAMBLERS. IN A SPLIT META (ARMOR AND SHIELD SUITS) THE ARR IS UNDER DPS ON AVERAGE. IT IS MEANT TO BE AN ACCURATE WEAPON THAT PEELS ARMOR. SO DONT RUN ALL ARMOR AND EXPECT IT TO NOT PACK A PUNCH. STOP CRYING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT BROKEN AND ADAPT. TRY RUNNING MORE SHIELDS AND YOU WILL FIND THAT THE FACT YOU CAN NOW CLOSE THE GAP ON AN ARR FASTER AND THE ADDED SHIELD MAKES YOUR SURVIVABILITY MUCH HIGHER. SO LET THIS THREAD DIE AS ITS FULL OF ANECODOTAL CRYING WITH NO FACTUAL BASIS FROM GUYS WANTING TO BRICK TANK. THERE ARE REALLY ONLY THREE GUNS THAT ARE OUT OF LINE RIGHT NOW WHEN ACTUAL TESTIN COMES INTO PLAY. THE SCRAMBLER FAMILY, THE BP, AND THE AHMG HAVE MOUNTAINS OF REAL EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT AN ADJUSTMENT. THE ARR DOES NOT. THAT IS FOR A REASON. ITS JUST STRONG IN THE CURRENT META NOT OVERALL. The problem with this idea is people (like me) that try to stick to one race or another. I'm Caldari and only use Caldari weapons/fits. So when they nerf something Caldari that directly effects me negatively. Since I can't (and won't) switch to another race's weapons/fits to follow FOTM, I'm stuck with nerfed gear. Likewise, when Caldari gets a buff, I get to use better gear. From my perspective CCP should just stop nerfing and buffing everything and go back to everyone having to train much harder to use other race's gear, but I know how likely that will be to happen, so I just put up with it. Eventually, if it ever got so bad that Caldari gear was virtually useless, I'd probably just leave. But I think there are probably quite a number of players like me that want to stick with one race or another and not be endlessly retraining to deal with the FOTM-buff/nerf-FOTM cycle. I'd rather max out my Caldari training to use Caldari gear to the best possible effect than try to follow the endless stream of buffs and nerfs.


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