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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.07.24 08:22:00 -
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Past five days I've been unable to get into any other pub-match game mode while running solo. Point in case.
I -MUST- have Domination in my que or I simply will not get into a game. I've spoken with some other players and one suggested that it happens when the MU Score is too high and you have to deliberately lower it in order to get into other game modes. I dunno if it's true but, yanno, I'm considering it.
I've been waiting for about thirty minutes now for a match and every time I get Scotty'd for duration, but as soon as I check Domination in my Game Mode settings I'll get into a match. At first I thought it was just that the servers were down but, no, this is very consistent and very reliable to recreate.
(Note: I finally got into a Skirmish match after waiting four minutes while typing this up)
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VAHZZ
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Posted - 2015.07.24 08:26:00 -
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I am deliberately trying my darn tootinist to get into the lower bracket by bum rushing guys so theys kills me. Bypass the suicide rule, I AM THE SUICIDE RULE! I FEAR NO DEATH!
My plan is flawless.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.07.24 08:36:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:I am deliberately trying my darn tootinist to get into the lower bracket by bum rushing guys so theys kills me. Bypass the suicide rule, I AM THE SUICIDE RULE! I FEAR NO DEATH!
My plan is flawless.
Like seriously, I wait thirty minutes to get into anything -BUT- a Domination and it puts me in a write-off match in which my team is a bunch of glue sniffers wandering around aimlessly. Had three guys off near the outskirts redline, two guys putting drop-uplinks on a road about 250m+ from any objectives, and the rest of the team were chilling ontop of the outpost.
The entire time the enemy have us redlined and I'm playing one-man army against the entire enemy team in the home letter.
Like, apart from the general retardation of being forced into a game mode I really don't care for -for whatever reason- I really do genuinely hate being placed on a team in which my (apparently) high MU score is the catalyst for a terrible experience.
Yes, CCP, we understand that you dislike veterans stomping the noobs (we do too!) but when you deliberately place us in situations in which we certifiably have no chance at all -that is not what anyone would call balance-. I should not be expected to carry my entire team when my entire team is either fresh out of the academy or genuinely has no idea what the definition of 'objective gameplay' means.
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2015.07.24 08:44:00 -
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I might test this out tonight, i just assumed no one was playing any skirmish, but i've got everything but ambush ticked and never get anything but doms. Of course i've no idea how any of this match maker stuff works these days, all i do is fly dropships so I don't die very much but rarely get more then 10-20 kills a match.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.07.24 08:55:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:I might test this out tonight, i just assumed no one was playing any skirmish, but i've got everything but ambush ticked and never get anything but doms. Of course i've no idea how any of this match maker stuff works these days, all i do is fly dropships so I don't die very much but rarely get more then 10-20 kills a match.
Like I said, at first I thought it was just the servers being wonky but I think there is seriously something to it. I dunno why but it seems that the only Pub matches I can get into with any reliability is Domination matches, otherwise I'll be waiting for probably half an hour or more just to get into a write-off match that I'm guaranteed to lose.
I honestly have a better time queuing for FW solo.
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KGB Sleep
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Posted - 2015.07.24 09:05:00 -
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At least you can get into FW
I have only been back 3 weekends and have yet to get into Cal FW, just scotty after scotty.
That skirm we were just in is the first I have seen in days, last few matches have been all Doms.
Because beer, that's why.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.07.24 09:23:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:At least you can get into FW
I have only been back 3 weekends and have yet to get into Cal FW, just scotty after scotty.
That skirm we were just in is the first I have seen in days, last few matches have been all Doms.
You were in that match?
Did you stay the entire way through? I didn't, I bailed as soon as I realized it was a lost cause.
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KGB Sleep
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Posted - 2015.07.24 09:26:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:At least you can get into FW
I have only been back 3 weekends and have yet to get into Cal FW, just scotty after scotty.
That skirm we were just in is the first I have seen in days, last few matches have been all Doms.
You were in that match? Did you stay the entire way through? I didn't, I bailed as soon as I realized it was a lost cause.
Yeah you shot me in the face and came looking for you but you were gone dammit! o7
Because beer, that's why.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.07.24 09:41:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:At least you can get into FW
I have only been back 3 weekends and have yet to get into Cal FW, just scotty after scotty.
That skirm we were just in is the first I have seen in days, last few matches have been all Doms.
You were in that match? Did you stay the entire way through? I didn't, I bailed as soon as I realized it was a lost cause. Yeah you shot me in the face and came looking for you but you were gone dammit! o7
xD Sorry about that. I would have stayed if I weren't the only one trying to turn things around!
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
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Posted - 2015.07.24 09:41:00 -
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There's just no reason to run pub skirmish over faction warfare skirmish.
more friends> less friends. If 4 guys you know log on and want to squad, you are going to have to play fw. Most vets have gotten to know more than 3 other people, simply because 6 man squads were a thing for the majority of dust's existence.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.07.24 09:45:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:There's just no reason to run pub skirmish over faction warfare skirmish.
more friends> less friends. If 4 guys you know log on and want to squad, you are going to have to play fw. Most vets have gotten to know more than 3 other people, simply because 6 man squads were a thing for the majority of dust's existence.
Okay? I said I was running solo.
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2015.07.24 09:58:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:There's just no reason to run pub skirmish over faction warfare skirmish.
more friends> less friends. If 4 guys you know log on and want to squad, you are going to have to play fw. Most vets have gotten to know more than 3 other people, simply because 6 man squads were a thing for the majority of dust's existence.
Started playing this game about 3 years ago, most of the players i knew are long gone and there were no squads when i started :D besides now days i'm a solo ads pilot and will hug a grenade before i bother to use a rifle, now that completely irrelevant subjects are dealt with.
10min wait in line for a skirmish, got scottied.
and tested it again after that 10min wait and scotty.
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Litany 0f Fury
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Posted - 2015.07.24 11:11:00 -
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YouGÇÖre not the only one, I get the exact same thing. For the past month or moreGǪ
I'd say 80% of my matches are dominations,
18% are acquisitions or skirmish,
2% are ambush.
I have all mode types open all the time just to be clear. What we need to know is, does everyone have 'domination only' selected or is this code generated?
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Edgar Reinhart
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Posted - 2015.07.24 11:21:00 -
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Noticed this too last month before I decided to start repeatedly bouncing my head off the brick wall that is Gal FW (No that's not a complaint but last weeks W/L was 0.06 this week so far it's 0.00) and wondered if it was something to do with the event.
Unless EVERYONE else is just only queuing Dom I'm now wondering if there is something in the matchmaker that simply has 'Dom' as the first match it tries to create in the list. so if you are queueing more than one game mode it tries to put you in a Dom first. Meaning that everyone queueing for Dom, Skirm and Acquisition are basically only queueing for Dom.
..... Then again it really could just be that the vast majority of people in the queues just want to play Dom and Bush. |
Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2015.07.24 11:30:00 -
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CCP should remove the ability to select game mode. Players should just have to deal with having to adapt to a random selection.
Better than having to play non stop domination for 6 months.
Also, payments should be adjusted so that being a one man army vs a stomp nets you a massive payout. For example:
1.6 mill isk to be split with your team when you lose. (There would also be a bonus if you win).
Half your team leave, making it 8 v 16
You get 150wp, you teammates each get 50.
Total team warpoints = 500
Teammates get 50/500 * 1.6 mill = 160,000 isk each
You get 150/500 * 1.6 mill = 480,000 isk
Plus the normal payouts for time in battle and isk destroyed, adjusted for losing.
This would give a good bonus for trying to the end, despite getting stomped.
For comparison, if all 16 stayed and got equal warpoints, they would all get only a 100,000 Isk bonus. |
Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2015.07.24 11:34:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:CCP should remove the ability to select game mode. Players should just have to deal with having to adapt to a random selection.
Better than having to play non stop domination for 6 months.
Also, payments should be adjusted so that being a one man army vs a stomp nets you a massive payout. For example:
1.6 mill isk to be split with your team when you lose. (There would also be a bonus if you win).
Half your team leave, making it 8 v 16
You get 150wp, you teammates each get 50.
Total team warpoints = 500
Teammates get 50/500 * 1.6 mill = 160,000 isk each
You get 150/500 * 1.6 mill = 480,000 isk
Plus the normal payouts for time in battle and isk destroyed, adjusted for losing.
This would give a good bonus for trying to the end, despite getting stomped.
For comparison, if all 16 stayed and got equal warpoints, they would all get only a 100,000 Isk bonus.
I wouldn't mind there being 2 queues, Dom/skirmish Ambush/Acquisition or any combo that keeps me out of ambush, can't fly a dropship in ambush and thats all i'm interested in doing :)
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Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2015.07.24 11:40:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:CCP should remove the ability to select game mode. Players should just have to deal with having to adapt to a random selection. I wouldn't mind there being 2 queues, Dom/skirmish Ambush/Acquisition or any combo that keeps me out of ambush, can't fly a dropship in ambush and thats all i'm interested in doing :)
I'd be happy with that. It would be a big improvement on the current mechanic, and would probably help matchmaking a lot too. |
Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2015.07.24 12:46:00 -
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amazingly I got a skirmish match after 10 horrible doms
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Dragonmeballs
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Posted - 2015.07.24 13:48:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Past five days I've been unable to get into any other pub-match game mode while running solo. Point in case.I -MUST- have Domination in my que or I simply will not get into a game. I've spoken with some other players and one suggested that it happens when the MU Score is too high and you have to deliberately lower it in order to get into other game modes. I dunno if it's true but, yanno, I'm considering it. I've been waiting for about thirty minutes now for a match and every time I get Scotty'd for duration, but as soon as I check Domination in my Game Mode settings I'll get into a match. At first I thought it was just that the servers were down but, no, this is very consistent and very reliable to recreate. (Note: I finally got into a Skirmish match after waiting four minutes while typing this up)
I usually start each night trying to get one win on each of my other two characters before switching to my main.
In the last few weeks I find that on those characters (less than 3 M SP) I'll see a balanced mix of Ambush, Domination and Acquisition. Some matches are quite entertaining in that there are a generous portion of noobs on each side and the tactics are questionable as well as hilarious.
The sad thing though is in some of these matches a seasoned tryhard brings out the really good stuff just has a field day. (Running officer suits and weapons in a pub match in a field dominated by noobs is just lame in my opinion so out comes the Visi and the harassment begins)
Once I have my keys I switch over to my main (>60M SP) and it might be three straight hours of Domination matches. Two thirds of those matches are either a redline race or an objective camp fest. Maybe one in ten matches result in objective changing hands more than four times.
The only change of pace is to squad up and head into AFW and see how that is going.
If the player base were larger perhaps some form of tier/meta system might work because if you have less than 5M SP the games can be a little rough.
I do wonder if Scotty has been tweaked to steer lower SP players into Ambush and Acquistion and the higher SP players into Domination.
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Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.07.24 13:56:00 -
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From what I hear people say they're all like "Oh I play dom because skrim takes too much walking" "Oh I don't do ambush I don't wanna get proto stomped 24/7" "Oh I just hate acq it's worst than dom"... Thus... Dom is the way to go...
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Haerr
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Posted - 2015.07.24 14:20:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:I honestly have a better time queuing for FW solo. ^ This.
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Posted - 2015.07.24 14:25:00 -
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When queuing solo, I also find that Dom seems to take priority over other modes. Also find far higher odds of being placed into partially completed matches, but that's an altogether separate issue. Having discovered and rediscovered that Dom matches on Battleserver:America are largely crap (HAV spam, rooftop camping or redlines), I usually queue for everything except for Dom. I'd say my average wait time between matches is 4-5 minutes.
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Bradric Banewolf
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Posted - 2015.07.24 14:32:00 -
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The community as a whole seem to only like dom because it's easier. Strategy for dom is completely easy. Get to position, spam, repeat.
Most of the corps, and individual mercs that Play dom 24/7 tend to really suck in PC. I wonder why?
I prefer skirmish and acquisition, but most of those matches end up in redline stomps because players don't want to fight once they realize the enemy team has a plan lol! It's too hard to get a blaster to push back zergs, too hard to get a dropship or scout to spread links, and too hard to work with the blues to attack/defend an objective.
Dom let's you camp a roof with a MD, and wait for easy kills.
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The KTM DuKe
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Posted - 2015.07.24 14:36:00 -
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I usually search every game mode though usually turns in domination and rarely acquisition
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DDx77
Random Gunz
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Posted - 2015.07.24 14:43:00 -
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I have been having this issue for at least a month maybe longer
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.07.24 15:51:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Past five days I've been unable to get into any other pub-match game mode while running solo. Point in case.I -MUST- have Domination in my que or I simply will not get into a game. I've spoken with some other players and one suggested that it happens when the MU Score is too high and you have to deliberately lower it in order to get into other game modes. I dunno if it's true but, yanno, I'm considering it. I've been waiting for about thirty minutes now for a match and every time I get Scotty'd for duration, but as soon as I check Domination in my Game Mode settings I'll get into a match. At first I thought it was just that the servers were down but, no, this is very consistent and very reliable to recreate. (Note: I finally got into a Skirmish match after waiting four minutes while typing this up)
It takes me a while to get into anything outside of Domination but I can. I spam apex suits and keep my k/d just a little above 1 so I probably fall into the mid level players bracket.
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.07.24 16:06:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:I am deliberately trying my darn tootinist to get into the lower bracket by bum rushing guys so theys kills me. Bypass the suicide rule, I AM THE SUICIDE RULE! I FEAR NO DEATH!
My plan is flawless.
I can run suicide scouts with locus grenades and still find a way to get a 1/1 K/D.
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2015.07.24 16:08:00 -
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DominationUST 514.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.07.24 16:09:00 -
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
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Posted - 2015.07.24 16:35:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:There's just no reason to run pub skirmish over faction warfare skirmish.
more friends> less friends. If 4 guys you know log on and want to squad, you are going to have to play fw. Most vets have gotten to know more than 3 other people, simply because 6 man squads were a thing for the majority of dust's existence.
Okay? I said I was running solo.
how does running solo effect the necessity for other players to start a match? you need 31 other players to kick start scotty. This doesn't go away because aeon is running solo.
you need other players to play pub skirmish, there is little reason to play pub skirmish over fw. less players playing pub skirmish overall means a longer que times for pub skirmish. heck, any group of players larger than 4 have no business in a pub match anyway. taking out these huge reserves of players means you are playing/being pitted against a much smaller MU pool, solo or not.
that's where your long que times are coming from.
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