@Frame - you think it's an issue with the hard drive, specifically?

What about lag on SSD systems and systems with brand new hard drives?

Boom! Exactly!

Hey Frame, So I went ahead and did what you asked. I captured a Domination, first half we were crushing the enemy until their mcc had about only 35% of their armor left. Then all of a sudden boom frame rates dropped badly, the enemy did not even secure the objective once prior to this, its like they flipped a switch and cause the frame rates to drop, it actually cost us the battle and it seemed the harder we pushed to re gain the objective the more lagg we would experience, or the closer we got to the enemies the more lagg we would get as well.

I am uploading that video plus a factional warfare video of basically the same thing happening. They are uploading to the tube as I speak and I will post here for you within 24 hours tops.

The funny thing is I am using a 500 GB ps3 slim brand new maybe 2 months old tops. I hardly ever experience frame rate issues except when dealing with certain enemy players. hmmmm.

For example one enemy died 5 times and got zero WP all battle, seemed as if they were just sitting around messing with framerates for their team. You can verify all of this by looking at the domination scoreboard after battle.

Not only that but when the enemy team does all this with such accuracy it makes you think the problem is not with hard drives but more so with certain players causing this to happen during battles.

I will post the videos for you here are soon as they are done uploading.

Another question, why do the framerates drop so badly only once the enemy team knows they are losing so badly? Seems a little more fishy than just hard drive issues, if it was hard drive issues the framerate issues would be constant all throughout the battle not just starting at an exact time right when the enemy needs it to happen to secure them the victory, it all sounds pre planned and staged by certain players. I am not pointing any fingers but it makes no sense especially since I am using a bran new system with 500 GB hard drive.

Anyways, my point is if it was hard drive related framerates would drop as soon as the battle started not right when the enemy needed them to drop to win the battle. I am sure you understand my point and the proof will be here for you soon to watch.

Just trying to help o7.

I'am curious about how certain players can cause this kind of thing. And since there is about 100 matches (I'm not sure) occurring at the same time and a lot of players are suffering with this framerates drop, are there so many players in different matches pre planned to do it?

One more thing, why is it just happened after the last updates?

I really dont know to be honest, I just dont see how it could be a hard drive issue.

But for it all to happen so perfectly that it looks like the enemy or someone on the enemy team has planned it really makes me scratch my head quite heavily.

The timing and the percise moment it all takes places leaves me with nothing else to say.

I use a 500 GB system and hardly ever experience frame rate drops ever, the only time I do is when I am up against certain corps or certain players, so for that reason i am sticking with my opinion. There are a lot of corps and a lot of players and all it takes is 1 player per battle.

Those battles without frame rate issues are most likely because those corps or players are not in that match, not because your hard drive.

Also to hear so many complaints from my corp about other corps causing this type of stuff really makes me think of this problem to be human related and not hard drive related.

I am not asking anyone to believe me just keep an open mind to what I am saying here :)

Okay here are the vids,

domination - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-_dzfxRCnk

factional - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q8-HGpt-fk

The domination I trimmed half way through as the first half was lag free. If you need the first half just let me know I still have it saved. The factional is all there just because you might catch a glimpse of the players as i was in fact hit with the end of battle screen freeze on that one.

Anyways hope it helps and if you need anymore battles captured just let me know i can easily capture those super bad frame rate battles.

Both vids are unlisted and only visible here.

Once again I am using a brand new ps3 not even 2 months old its a slim and has a 500GB hard drive.

Ok I might be noob, but I am not seeing any severe frame rate drops in your Dom footage. The only time I notice it is when you choose to spawn at your home CRU and walk to the objective, just after you send the laaaaaaaaag chat message.

It may be that as the one playing, it was more apparent to you as it happened, but that vid gets nowhere near some of the frame rate issues others have reported.


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You have however given me some ideas as to how to try and recreate the issue, though as I rarely get the problem myself that might be easier said than done. Tempted to dig out the old hard drive and use that, because I do think the HD is relevant.

The last update brought major pc changes.

I've seen a bunch of players I have not seen in pubs ever, playing pubs.

All of a sudden we have pub issues.

Rocket surgery.

Two corps in particular are WELL known to be instant lag/rubberbanding/slideshow fests, guaranteed.

We don't know what you are doing, but we know you are doing it.

Please let the grown ups talk

The thing is I use a 500gb hard drive and thats usually the worst lagg I get and I only get lag like that when I play against certain corps or players.. the ps3 is only 2 months old so I expect top quality. Which is why my frame rates dont look as bad as ones you have seen in this thread.

With all that said why do I never have frame rate issues when playing against a new academy recruit teams, only certain corps and certain players, which makes me say HMMMMMMMM to that hard drive aspect.

Next add-on the Dust514 pack, with SSD and Water cooling: The only way to play normally, 30 000 dollars or 600 000 000 000 aurums



Just irony Frame, If we are always in Dust, it's because it's the best game ever. But frustration comes when we love something and when we can't do it normally.

So the community rage is the best compliment for your work. We prefer continue playing dust frustrated instead of playing something else running properly.

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first half we were crushing the enemy until their mcc had about only 35% of their armor left. Then all of a sudden boom frame rates dropped badly, the enemy did not even secure the objective once prior to this, its like they flipped a switch and cause the frame rates to drop, it actually cost us the battle and it seemed the harder we pushed to re gain the objective the more lagg we would experience, or the closer we got to the enemies the more lagg we would get as well.

I am uploading that video plus a factional warfare video of basically the same thing happening. They are uploading to the tube as I speak and I will post here for you within 24 hours tops.

The funny thing is I am using a 500 GB ps3 slim brand new maybe 2 months old tops. I hardly ever experience frame rate issues except when dealing with certain enemy players. hmmmm.

For example one enemy died 5 times and got zero WP all battle, seemed as if they were just sitting around messing with framerates for their team. You can verify all of this by looking at the domination scoreboard after battle.

Not only that but when the enemy team does all this with such accuracy it makes you think the problem is not with hard drives but more so with certain players causing this to happen during battles.

I will post the videos for you here are soon as they are done uploading.

Another question, why do the framerates drop so badly only once the enemy team knows they are losing so badly? Seems a little more fishy than just hard drive issues, if it was hard drive issues the framerate issues would be constant all throughout the battle not just starting at an exact time right when the enemy needs it to happen to secure them the victory, it all sounds pre planned and staged by certain players. I am not pointing any fingers but it makes no sense especially since I am using a bran new system with 500 GB hard drive.

Anyways, my point is if it was hard drive related framerates would drop as soon as the battle started not right when the enemy needed them to drop to win the battle. I am sure you understand my point and the proof will be here for you soon to watch.
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Spawn in - die instantly. It starts loading the environment, but it didn't finish, so it has to dump, but you are already spawning in again before the dump finished, now it's trying to load while dumping, and dead again, now it's loading and dumping twice as much and do in and so forth

You might have something there!
Though sometimes the first death-respawn is enough to give some lag.

Please let the grown ups talk

I have reached to our live team and they are proposing a few scenarions for this specific issue. (we have seen your vid.me video https://vid.me/XGYC regarding FW framerate drops) Here are some cases that we would like to see:

Case 1:
Use the same PS3, play a few Skirmish battles, record a video and send us the link.

Case 2:
1.Find a different PS3 (that is newer and doesnGÇÖt have any disk issues).
2.Play a few FW battles on that PS3 and note the performance.
3.Record a video and send us the link.

If this is possible, this would pinpoint the issue further. The video that you shared with us recently does indicate that there may be some issue with the hard drive because we had similar issues with faulty hard drives, but that's just our guess right now.

Thank you!

Not sure if CCP still wants us to record matches for this, but I'm recording some bad matches (got the end of one particularly bad one uploading). I'll link it once it's done.

Link