Wow.

Thanks for fullfiling my expectations frame ;)

@Frame - you think it's an issue with the hard drive, specifically?

What about lag on SSD systems and systems with brand new hard drives?

I have reached to our live team and they are proposing a few scenarions for this specific issue. (we have seen your vid.me video https://vid.me/XGYC regarding FW framerate drops) Here are some cases that we would like to see:

Case 1:
Use the same PS3, play a few Skirmish battles, record a video and send us the link.

Case 2:
1.Find a different PS3 (that is newer and doesnGÇÖt have any disk issues).
2.Play a few FW battles on that PS3 and note the performance.
3.Record a video and send us the link.

If this is possible, this would pinpoint the issue further. The video that you shared with us recently does indicate that there may be some issue with the hard drive because we had similar issues with faulty hard drives, but that's just our guess right now.

Thank you!

Probably with the disk drive you say? Here's another video link to the issues everybody is getting https://youtu.be/mfajcwaCHGs

I'll see if I can get my capture card working then.

I have a 9 year old 'old faithful' PS3 with its out of the box HDD and I have a newer model with an SSD. Loading into matches is vastly quicker in the SSD PS3 but I still get crippling lag at times.

New gear for the recording setup is arriving soonish, though, so hopefully I'll be able to get some recordings.


I can share some random player theories on lag as well, if you like. Most of these are anecdotal and I'm certain that at least some are myths, but here's what I've heard thrown around (and haven't been able to disprove personally).

1. Entering and exiting a major map socket ("the city") increases risk of lag (Anecdotally, my attempted tests seemed to corroborate this but I don't know if it was confirmation bias, the natural increase in lag as matches go on, or an actual positive result).
2. Having two squads of 8 is preferable to having 1 squad of 16 in PC (I'm dubious on this one).
3. Having fewer fittings reduces lag - this includes vehicle fittings.
4. Getting triaged from the spawn screen and not the death screen has a tendency to induce lag (I frequently get lagspikes when this happens, but I'm not sure if it increases lag as I've heard. Personally untested.)


There are more and I can update later, but those are off the top of my head.



Additional video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF20z-acrSI

I would like to note that having run in PC circles with some people running literally brand new SSD systems lag still cripples entire teams. There may well be some problems rooted in the hard drive (and certainly SSD systems yield some improvements) but I highly doubt it's all of them.

Capture card is not extremely necessary by the way. Even a phone recording of gameplay for a few minutes will do just like vid.me link was made. :) Plenty of options to capture video directly from your phone!

But yeah - thank you for your feedback so far guys.

If you want, I can roll with you and use my capture card. I have a PS3 Slim that's just over three years old (got it specifically for Dust 514) with the stock hard-drive.

EDIT: Frame, I notice you specifically say 'framerate drops in FW battles'. Have you noticed problems specifically with these or is this a full-scale anti-lag campaign in all modes?

Well, it would seem that players are reporting FW matches having problems more than regular pubs. But if you do encounter similar performance in pubs as well drop us links of those as well. We are not going to complain!

Also, note your character name within your videos and date/time of that gameplay. That would also help a lot. :)

Generally any video of any performance issue similar to the one originally shared (very low FPS) is helpful. Being PC/FW/Pub. As long as we can get some info on EVE Time and Characters affected we are happy campers!.

Good show, Raiders. Lag cost us that match.

From my perspective, the match played very smoothly for the first half and seemed to degrade from that point forward. Toward the end, my screen was refreshing about once per second and I was unable to even open menus. Found the lag to be equally bad both inside and outside the city. Spawned in our ground spawn at the very end of the match to try to get the warbarge menu up; it was even laggy way out there with no one else around.

I have reached to our live team and they are proposing a few scenarions for this specific issue. (we have seen your vid.me video https://vid.me/XGYC regarding FW framerate drops) Here are some cases that we would like to see:

Case 1:
Use the same PS3, play a few Skirmish battles, record a video and send us the link.

Case 2:
1.Find a different PS3 (that is newer and doesnGÇÖt have any disk issues).
2.Play a few FW battles on that PS3 and note the performance.
3.Record a video and send us the link.

If this is possible, this would pinpoint the issue further. The video that you shared with us recently does indicate that there may be some issue with the hard drive because we had similar issues with faulty hard drives, but that's just our guess right now.

@Frame - you think it's an issue with the hard drive, specifically?

What about lag on SSD systems and systems with brand new hard drives?

Generally any video of any performance issue similar to the one originally shared (very low FPS) is helpful. Being PC/FW/Pub. As long as we can get some info on EVE Time and Characters affected we are happy campers! So hit us up.

Oh, and thanks for that info you just gave us! We will take a look.

Would like to drop in and note that it's Skirmish itself that usually brings about the slideshow. All those null cannons, everything constantly getting hacked. I can play other game modes for several hours with little to no issue, and Skirmish sort of "triggers" the downhill slope into unplayability. That's how it goes in my experience.

I was in the same match and had framerate lag as well.
Did not visit the city - which usually connects to low fps!
Medium slim PS3, SSD with dust being the only game on it, defragmented 18 months ago
Sadly while considering, I did not save that particular battle video even though I thought about it.


Revolutionkiller had lag as well:
PS3 medium slim, original 250GB HD, a couple of games on hard drive
Did not visit the city

Capture card is not extremely necessary by the way. Even a phone recording of gameplay for a few minutes will do just like vid.me link was made. :) Plenty of options to capture video directly from your phone!

But yeah - thank you for your feedback so far guys.

Obviously not the issue here for everyone but when was the last time you deleted and reinstalled Dust? It is best practice to delete and reinstall some time very soon after each update as that extra data seems to pile up and cause issues of its own.

18 months. Yea maybe that is a long time and I should do it.
I'm now REALLY considering buying a second PS3 and bolting fresh HD on it. That would give more comparison possibilities, including old and new install side to side, maybe even in the same match.

I have reached to our live team and they are proposing a few scenarions for this specific issue. (we have seen your vid.me video https://vid.me/XGYC regarding FW framerate drops) Here are some cases that we would like to see:

Case 1:
Use the same PS3, play a few Skirmish battles, record a video and send us the link.

Case 2:
1.Find a different PS3 (that is newer and doesnGÇÖt have any disk issues).
2.Play a few FW battles on that PS3 and note the performance.
3.Record a video and send us the link.

If this is possible, this would pinpoint the issue further. The video that you shared with us recently does indicate that there may be some issue with the hard drive because we had similar issues with faulty hard drives, but that's just our guess right now.

Thank you!