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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.29 10:33:00 -
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@Frame - you think it's an issue with the hard drive, specifically?
What about lag on SSD systems and systems with brand new hard drives?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:06:00 -
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I'll see if I can get my capture card working then.
I have a 9 year old 'old faithful' PS3 with its out of the box HDD and I have a newer model with an SSD. Loading into matches is vastly quicker in the SSD PS3 but I still get crippling lag at times.
New gear for the recording setup is arriving soonish, though, so hopefully I'll be able to get some recordings.
I can share some random player theories on lag as well, if you like. Most of these are anecdotal and I'm certain that at least some are myths, but here's what I've heard thrown around (and haven't been able to disprove personally).
1. Entering and exiting a major map socket ("the city") increases risk of lag (Anecdotally, my attempted tests seemed to corroborate this but I don't know if it was confirmation bias, the natural increase in lag as matches go on, or an actual positive result). 2. Having two squads of 8 is preferable to having 1 squad of 16 in PC (I'm dubious on this one). 3. Having fewer fittings reduces lag - this includes vehicle fittings. 4. Getting triaged from the spawn screen and not the death screen has a tendency to induce lag (I frequently get lagspikes when this happens, but I'm not sure if it increases lag as I've heard. Personally untested.)
There are more and I can update later, but those are off the top of my head.
Additional video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF20z-acrSI
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:13:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Capture card is not extremely necessary by the way. Even a phone recording of gameplay for a few minutes will do just like vid.me link was made. :) Plenty of options to capture video directly from your phone!
But yeah - thank you for your feedback so far guys.
I'm getting one anyway, so might as well.
It also enables actual counting of the frames. Speaking of which, I find it mildly entertaining that CCP Frame is addressing the issue of having single frames.
EDIT: Frame, I notice you specifically say 'framerate drops in FW battles'. Have you noticed problems specifically with these or is this a full-scale anti-lag campaign in all modes?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:15:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
If you want, I can roll with you and use my capture card. I have a PS3 Slim that's just over three years old (got it specifically for Dust 514) with the stock hard-drive.
Absolutely happy to do this.
Skype?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:26:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:EDIT: Frame, I notice you specifically say 'framerate drops in FW battles'. Have you noticed problems specifically with these or is this a full-scale anti-lag campaign in all modes? Well, it would seem that players are reporting FW matches having problems more than regular pubs. But if you do encounter similar performance in pubs as well drop us links of those as well. We are not going to complain! Also, note your character name within your videos and date/time of that gameplay. That would also help a lot. :)
What about PC? Pedantry on which gamemode, I know, but there is still absolutely crippling lag in PC matches.
At 21:00ish EVE time there was a Nos Nothi vs Ultimate Spawn PC match I participated in where the lag was utterly ruinous. At the time I was running the PS3 from a fresh database rebuild and IIRC a fresh hard reset - no matches were played before the match.
Initially there weren't many framerate problems but as the match went on it ramped up heavily until I was unable to successfully fire my weapon.
Apologies that I don't have a video of lag in this. There's a non-laggy one out there of someone playing in 480p I think though?
Are you interested in videos of lag in 480p? It goes a long way to reducing lag but doesn't always eliminate it.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:34:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Generally any video of any performance issue similar to the one originally shared (very low FPS) is helpful. Being PC/FW/Pub. As long as we can get some info on EVE Time and Characters affected we are happy campers!.
I know I'm being super pedantic here but it's because I want to help, really.
Specifically, all you require is info on EVE time and characters affected and not necessarily (although beneficial if possible) video footage?
I can bring very long lists of lag incidents if video footage isn't required.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.29 11:44:00 -
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Addendum on the PC match I earmarked as a lagmatch - I was not the only player lagging. Not all players were lagging either, though.
Here're some other perspectives.
Adipem Nothi (Participated in match under character name Shotty GoBang) wrote: Good show, Raiders. Lag cost us that match.
From my perspective, the match played very smoothly for the first half and seemed to degrade from that point forward. Toward the end, my screen was refreshing about once per second and I was unable to even open menus. Found the lag to be equally bad both inside and outside the city. Spawned in our ground spawn at the very end of the match to try to get the warbarge menu up; it was even laggy way out there with no one else around.
Here's a non-lagging perspective from character J0LLY R0G3R playing in 480p: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zqVP-3SmFY
Unfortunately I don't have a comms log but I'm not sure how helpful our collective bitching about lag would be, anyway.
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