DUST Search - How to stop high ground twatt gameplay

Bright Cloud wrote:

It doesnt matter what game mode you play there is 99% of the times a guy who takes a dropship and then deploys uplinks up high. This kind of annoying gameplay needs to stop, its not tactical nor is healthy for the game fighting a guy up high who has a massdriver or some other scrub gun. My idea is why dont we copy paste the redline mechanics from dropships and then invert the value?

Explaination of the dropship redline mechanic:
As soon a dropship reaches a certain flight altitude the redline for it is vastly expanded giving it more space to fly in, however when you get close to the ground the regualr redline mechanics are back into place just like for every other ground unit.

So since we now know about that why dont we put a hight limitation on where dropsuits can operate? Anything to high from the ground would become the redline and thus eliminating high ground camping which then turns into a better gameplay experience for everybody (except for the twatts who currently abuse this).

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Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.07.19 18:24:00 - [1] - Quote It doesnt matter what game mode you play there is 99% of the times a guy who takes a dropship and then deploys uplinks up high. This kind of annoying gameplay needs to stop, its not tactical nor is healthy for the game fighting a guy up high who has a massdriver or some other scrub gun. My idea is why dont we copy paste the redline mechanics from dropships and then invert the value? Explaination of the dropship redline mechanic: As soon a dropship reaches a certain flight altitude the redline for it is vastly expanded giving it more space to fly in, however when you get close to the ground the regualr redline mechanics are back into place just like for every other ground unit. So since we now know about that why dont we put a hight limitation on where dropsuits can operate? Anything to high from the ground would become the redline and thus eliminating high ground camping which then turns into a better gameplay experience for everybody (except for the twatts who currently abuse this). Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Mahal Daj Mahal Tactical Enterprises 177	Posted - 2015.07.19 18:26:00 - [2] - Quote don't take our freedom to mess up badly!!! See my Post on Crashes: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2413361#post2413361
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 678	Posted - 2015.07.19 18:29:00 - [3] - Quote Hell No. The Stratosphere is Fun.
Alena Ventrallis Commando Perkone Caldari State 3	Posted - 2015.07.19 18:29:00 - [4] - Quote Ever heard of a flux strike? Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Keeriam Miray Nos Nothi 515	Posted - 2015.07.19 18:31:00 - [5] - Quote It is tactical challenging advantage! By (icelandic) design approved by omnipotent Rattati... sight "Call no man happy til he is dead. Happy, happy, happy, happy, happy..."
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.19 18:33:00 - [6] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Ever heard of a flux strike? Logis now carry 7 uplinks. Nuke the place, just lay down more. Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST Un-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
4lbert Wesker TERRA R1SING New Eden's Heros 328	Posted - 2015.07.19 18:34:00 - [7] - Quote Well,i know only one dude who is doing that and he is Bobby Rom.Just destroyed his dropship while he was deploying uplinks WESKER S.T.A.R.S. is not my corporation!
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.07.19 18:54:00 - [8] - Quote Or like many previous places make them not possible to land on, or unable to have uplinks deployed on. Or install ways up like ladders/portals. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 11	Posted - 2015.07.19 19:05:00 - [9] - Quote Auto-fizzle Uplinks if over X elevation? (Not that I necessarily agree. Just spitballing for spitballs' sake.) Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.07.19 19:07:00 - [10] - Quote Securing high ground is an important strategy. Why the hell would you want to remove strategic options from the game? There are plenty of ways to counter high ground camping. If someone uses a strategy against you, you have two options: 1) counter it 2) cry on the forums You have chosen option two.

Louis Domi Tugastroy Evil Syndicate Alliance. 1	Posted - 2015.07.19 19:14:00 - [11] - Quote I'm pretty sure I've had and seen similar threads. Most people said no because it broke immersion or some **. Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2**
Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 15	Posted - 2015.07.19 19:57:00 - [12] - Quote 1. The more enemies who are 500 feet off the ground, the less enemies who are actually capping/guarding objectives 2. FatSuit+HMG+Flux nades and a disposable militia dropship can end them pretty quickly 3. Sniper rifle practice
Summa Militum Art.of.Death 531	Posted - 2015.07.19 20:57:00 - [13] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: It doesnt matter what game mode you play there is 99% of the times a guy who takes a dropship and then deploys uplinks up high. This kind of annoying gameplay needs to stop, its not tactical nor is healthy for the game fighting a guy up high who has a massdriver or some other scrub gun. My idea is why dont we copy paste the redline mechanics from dropships and then invert the value? Explaination of the dropship redline mechanic: As soon a dropship reaches a certain flight altitude the redline for it is vastly expanded giving it more space to fly in, however when you get close to the ground the regualr redline mechanics are back into place just like for every other ground unit. So since we now know about that why dont we put a hight limitation on where dropsuits can operate? Anything to high from the ground would become the redline and thus eliminating high ground camping which then turns into a better gameplay experience for everybody (except for the twatts who currently abuse this). I like this idea. I hate when the only uplink on the map is located 500 feet up on top of some structure and I am forced to try to figure out the safest way to get down without being noticed; it's really annoying and it leads to a bunch of people camping up high instead of going for the objective.
Alena Ventrallis Commando Perkone Caldari State 3	Posted - 2015.07.19 20:59:00 - [14] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Ever heard of a flux strike? Logis now carry 7 uplinks. Nuke the place, just lay down more. Ever heard of minor flux strikes? Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Second-Nature Negative-Feedback 724	Posted - 2015.07.19 21:24:00 - [15] - Quote Cesar Geronimo wrote: 1. The more enemies who are 500 feet off the ground, the less enemies who are actually capping/guarding objectives 2. FatSuit+HMG+Flux nades and a disposable militia dropship can end them pretty quickly 3. Sniper rifle practice This... Stop being a lazy ***** and take them out.
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1	Posted - 2015.07.19 21:24:00 - [16] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Or install ways up like ladders/portals. This is the answer. So much rooftop camping can be solved by installing ladders/portals all over the place. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
DiablosMajora 237	Posted - 2015.07.19 21:39:00 - [17] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: Or install ways up like ladders/portals. This is the answer. So much rooftop camping can be solved by installing ladders/portals all over the place. Evolve-style jetpacks as an equipment? Prepare your angus
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. RUST415 3	Posted - 2015.07.19 21:47:00 - [18] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Ever heard of a flux strike? Or an ADS? Really, it's not hard to strafe most links (unless they're glitches in a wall, which is another issue entirely). At the very least you'll draw attention to yourself and either make enemies jump off the roof or switch to AV on death. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
Kinky Fat Bastard OMFGZOMBIESRUN 44	Posted - 2015.07.19 21:52:00 - [19] - Quote Wouldn't it be simpler to just remove dropships?
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.19 21:54:00 - [20] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Ever heard of a flux strike? Logis now carry 7 uplinks. Nuke the place, just lay down more. Ever heard of minor flux strikes? What team only has one guy laying links? If they want that high ground, they will get it so long as they have vehicle superiority. You can minor flux as much as you want, but all they need is two guys to lay links. 14 total links between them, and you're going to have to scan and manually drop each flux, wasting tons of WP that could be used for more useful things (7 fluxes alone is 2100 WP, 14 is 4200, which is the cost of a major laser). Even if you flux it all off, all they need to do is call in a DS on top, leave and resupply and come right back. You wouldn't realistically be able to devote the WP and Single man to drop OB's to sufficiently keep them off the high ground. Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST Un-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;

The KTM DuKe 0uter.Heaven 475	Posted - 2015.07.19 22:02:00 - [21] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: It doesnt matter what game mode you play there is 99% of the times a guy who takes a dropship and then deploys uplinks up high. This kind of annoying gameplay needs to stop, its not tactical nor is healthy for the game fighting a guy up high who has a massdriver or some other scrub gun. My idea is why dont we copy paste the redline mechanics from dropships and then invert the value? Explaination of the dropship redline mechanic: As soon a dropship reaches a certain flight altitude the redline for it is vastly expanded giving it more space to fly in, however when you get close to the ground the regualr redline mechanics are back into place just like for every other ground unit. So since we now know about that why dont we put a hight limitation on where dropsuits can operate? Anything to high from the ground would become the redline and thus eliminating high ground camping which then turns into a better gameplay experience for everybody (except for the twatts who currently abuse this). Your offensive mails are the worst way to discuss with someone Italy, a country that can QQ and speak, dont ask them to act though.
A1ZEN AKUMA Villore Sec Ops 16	Posted - 2015.07.19 22:03:00 - [22] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: It doesnt matter what game mode you play there is 99% of the times a guy who takes a dropship and then experience for everybody (except for the twatts who currently abuse this). lol i understand this but its stupid the range of swarm launchers is 170 m i think 170m is pretty high and if you are going to limit my dropships es capability from the most opiest weapon i have ever seen in this game then i completely disagree
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.07.19 22:22:00 - [23] - Quote The KTM DuKe wrote: Your offensive mails are the worst way to discuss with someone Sorry but any kind of feedback from OH is just as valuable as a turd in a tincan. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
nelo kazuma Ecce Initio RLC. RUST415 309	Posted - 2015.07.19 22:25:00 - [24] - Quote I gues I can understand what u mean think there should be a minor reduction to how high ships should fly on certain stages cuz theyre able to get away a lil to easy. Allot are saying use flux strikes umm yea nobody does for a reason theyre incredibly inaccurate . Id lik to see flux strikes do a wider area of effect to compensate for that since major flux strikes can penetrate (lol) buildings which is awesome just atm minor fluxes suck FOR THE STATE ^(-_-) Cal Loyalist For Life
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.07.19 22:29:00 - [25] - Quote nelo kazuma wrote: I gues I can understand what u mean think there should be a minor reduction to how high ships should fly on certain stages cuz theyre able to get away a lil to easy. Allot are saying use flux strikes umm yea nobody does for a reason theyre incredibly inaccurate . Id lik to see flux strikes do a wider area of effect to compensate for that since mahor flux strikes can penetrate (lol) buildings which is awesome just atm minor fluxes suck I dont have a issue with dropships, my proposal is only there for infantry with no change on dropship mechanics whatsoever. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
501st Headstrong 0uter.Heaven 1	Posted - 2015.07.20 00:49:00 - [26] - Quote I disagree. If the enemy is willing to use their dropship to establish high ground superiority than that is there right. Most of these structures are only 200 meters off the ground last I remember. Dropships need far higher than that to fly... This is the same with people bringing out tanks and such to establish vehicle superiority. If you can afford to field it, it should not be limited, but countered. As much as you might like Infantry 514, sometimes you need to take one for the team, get a dropship, fly up there yourself. Ladder installation can happen another day, for now just call a DS and go kill some peeps. 07 "There are no rights. The world owes no one a living."-Sumner *The Mascot of 0uter.Heaven * Be back in 8 dayz
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.07.20 00:56:00 - [27] - Quote It's ok. I mean you can counter it etc.. but ffs these glitched uplinks in walls and null cannons are annoying. Especially when you have thrown your fluxes already to find out there is still 3 more. Loyal to The State Official Caldari Commando User
Louis Domi Tugastroy Evil Syndicate Alliance. 1	Posted - 2015.07.20 01:10:00 - [28] - Quote Kinky Fat Bastard wrote: Wouldn't it be simpler to just remove dropships? You kinky fat bastard... I should slap you and watch the fat jiggle for making such a ludicrous statement... but I won't because you might find it stimulating. *Delt for CPM2, Shadowed Cola for CPM2, Breaking For CPM2*
Eros Adonai Corrosive Synergy No Context 536	Posted - 2015.07.20 01:29:00 - [29] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Ever heard of a flux strike? Logis now carry 7 uplinks. Nuke the place, just lay down more. Logic ^ Director - Corrosive Synergy
HOWDIDHEKILLME Second-Nature Negative-Feedback 726	Posted - 2015.07.20 01:49:00 - [30] - Quote Next we can consolidate all maps into a single round 30m room with no cover. Then you can complain about how people won't run backwards at you while you pick them off with a hmg and that you almost ran out of ammo because no logi was next to you licking your bunghole.



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