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Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 8	Posted - 2015.07.15 16:41:00 - [31] - Quote I prefer a good 15s Uplink, rather than a bad 3s one. Or, you know, none at all. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.15 16:52:00 - [32] - Quote DRT 99 wrote: why were they ever nerfed in the first place? they used to only be 10s. They were nerfed because the old proto links were 3 SECONDS. They didn't want uplinks to be better than spawning on objectives, so they made proto links 11s. Everything else cascaded down from there. Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST Un-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
Raven-747 WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 104	Posted - 2015.07.15 16:54:00 - [33] - Quote I saw this newberry in a cal starter fit spamming his militia uplinks in the same place, so i went and punched him and he punched me back ^-^ You can complain all you want about lasers. Despite the nerfs it will rip you to shreds.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.07.15 17:13:00 - [34] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: DRT 99 wrote: why were they ever nerfed in the first place? they used to only be 10s. They were nerfed because the old proto links were 3 SECONDS. They didn't want uplinks to be better than spawning on objectives, so they made proto links 11s. Everything else cascaded down from there. You can still get 3 second spawns though its much harde to achieve. You need the Viziam drop uplink from the LP store (has -47.5% spawn time) and a Amarr logi. That is the only way to get insane short spawn timers back and thats why amarr logis are valuable to their team. Every second you are sitting at the respawn screen is a second where you are not shoting enemys off a objective. Even regular proto links can get you spawn time of 5 secs which is a huge benefit over a militia scrub link where you have to wait 15 secs. Though if you are a amarr logi you can still use militia uplinks and get a moderate 7.5 second spawn time out of it. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Larkson Crazy Eye WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 76	Posted - 2015.07.15 19:08:00 - [35] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: DRT 99 wrote: why were they ever nerfed in the first place? they used to only be 10s. They were nerfed because the old proto links were 3 SECONDS. They didn't want uplinks to be better than spawning on objectives, so they made proto links 11s. Everything else cascaded down from there. You can still get 3 second spawns though its much harde to achieve. You need the Viziam drop uplink from the LP store (has -47.5% spawn time) and a Amarr logi. That is the only way to get insane short spawn timers back and thats why amarr logis are valuable to their team. Every second you are sitting at the respawn screen is a second where you are not shoting enemys off a objective. Even regular proto links can get you spawn time of 5 secs which is a huge benefit over a militia scrub link where you have to wait 15 secs. Though if you are a amarr logi you can still use militia uplinks and get a moderate 7.5 second spawn time out of it. Not to mention the far more impressive 16 spawns, imo the +10 max spawns to any link is almost more impressive than the 50% cut back in spawn time. It makes a militia link impressive and some of the more advanced rather scary in how long they can last. Edit: all though a little more transparency in how the Amar logi effect worked would be great. Do the bonus spawns get used up first, or after? If you switch suits would all you uplinks that had exceeded their normal spawn limit instantly expire or would they start working off what ever fraction of their normal spawn cap was left? The other aspect I hate is if you die as an Amar logi you can't seem to use your own bonus to get back on the field, it seems to tied to you being alive. Any time you die your uplinks seem to lose their bonus till your back on the field with another Amar logi suit.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2015.07.15 19:21:00 - [36] - Quote Why blame the logis for the militia up links? its more often than not scouts and assaults who drop whatever they can fit. end of the day you have a proboem with bad uplinks to be pro active OP and spec into up links yourself. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. "I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 917	Posted - 2015.07.15 19:32:00 - [37] - Quote Better a mil link than no link at all to get players back in the fight sooner than running all the way back over to the objective. I have seen many good links in bad places. It's all about placement and context. Early in the game it makes sense to throw them out simply as a closer spawn point before the enemy moves forward. Then change those positions instantly as you move around and can get them in a better place. Again, there have been many good links that never get an upkeep and stay in bad places. I have seen mil links make the difference with good placement. MY CPM2 PLATFORM
Darken-Sol Intruder Excluder 2	Posted - 2015.07.15 19:38:00 - [38] - Quote D4GG3R wrote: My seraph logi has a templar uplink... so I'm going to use it They are bitching at poor logis. Amarr has enough sense to educate their logistics class. We just switch them on high. Crush them
Stupid Blueberry Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.07.15 19:41:00 - [39] - Quote Satyr Dante wrote: Lets ignore the fact that droplinks are painful as all hell to go through and just be mad at the fact it takes 15 seconds for us to feel the pain More like 15 seconds of pain as you are re-assembled molecule by molecule. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen. Orbital Laser S is hot.
Larkson Crazy Eye WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 78	Posted - 2015.07.15 19:50:00 - [40] - Quote Honestly as a mostly uplink focused logi (since no one else on my team runs the things half the time) I usually come in with proto/advanced links to start with on a jumpy logi suit. Put them in as good location as I can find, spamming 6-8 uplinks around the map. Usually as close to the objectives as I can get without being within easy scanner range of any one on the objective. Then I play the rest of the match as a more or less normal logi after I die/swap out that suit. I tend to carry the standard Templar link with a core rep tool and some what ever injector I can fit into the cpu/pg. The Templar link is kind of crap but it's just something I drop down as we approach objectives or quick defense uplinks near objectives. In that aspect basic links are kind of good. Since you can only have one out at a time you know that any time you put one down it removes your old one. It allows for a progressively mobile link that is rarely in a 'bad spot' since you keep deploying them near the most current location of your squad. Plus as people have said having taken Amar Logi to proto the spawn times aren't too bad even on the Templar.

chill penguin Bragian Order 177	Posted - 2015.07.15 19:58:00 - [41] - Quote D4GG3R wrote: chill penguin wrote: I cremate any 10-15 second uplinks i find. Logis, bring proto links and hives. Is that too much to ask? Run all proto all the time..... is that too much to ask? Proto links and hives aren't cheap and hardly worth it in a pub match. I don't mind proto. A True Slayer can only be born in the pits of Molden Heath
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.07.15 20:39:00 - [42] - Quote Mlt/Std links > no links. If you like to spend 30-50s running from the redline to the point/s, then do so. Uplinks are the best eq new players can carry (even counting the bad sides). Or better, carry them yourself. Ps. Every role (but commando) should carry links at the start and later on if needed. Loyal to The State Official Caldari Commando User
Cesar Geronimo DUST University Ivy League 7	Posted - 2015.07.16 00:04:00 - [43] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Wa wa wa, I don't want to run all the way to the objectuve,place a link. Wa wa wa its a ten second link I don't wanna wait that long,wa wa wa I don't wanna fight the enemy team unless I got a logi repping me and running scans 24/7. TAKE THE FUCING LINK I SET DOWN AND QUIT COMPLAINING, be grateful that I least set up the link in a safe spot. And guard the link till it spawn its last few guys. Then set up another. I'm not paying more money just to let you spawn in 3 seconds earlier,you shouldnt be dieing that much anyway if you want to demand proto links. I already told everyone, these links are worse than not having any links. Bad players will continually spawn at them and die over and over because enemies have enough time to prepare before they spawn in. Also, I don't care if a logistics player repairs me, places a nanohive or follows me around. The only thing I care about is being revived and even then I don't feel entitled. Am I telling logistics players to run better equipment for my own benefit? No, I am telling them to stop running terrible uplinks because they are a detriment. People are actually reducing the chances of your team winning by placing these links. 1. Quit crying, and... 2. Just spawn at deployment and do your mini cross-country jog to the action, or... 3. Use a vehicle to get where you want to go, or... 4. Play with friends on mic so you know where and what you're spawning into, or... 5. God forbid drop your own high speed, perfectly placed uplinks all over the map since you're so perfect...
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 290	Posted - 2015.07.16 00:06:00 - [44] - Quote What?? It's 15 seconds to ponder the mysteries of life.
DeadlyAztec11 Defenders of the Helghast Dream 8	Posted - 2015.07.16 01:01:00 - [45] - Quote Cesar Geronimo wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Wa wa wa, I don't want to run all the way to the objectuve,place a link. Wa wa wa its a ten second link I don't wanna wait that long,wa wa wa I don't wanna fight the enemy team unless I got a logi repping me and running scans 24/7. TAKE THE FUCING LINK I SET DOWN AND QUIT COMPLAINING, be grateful that I least set up the link in a safe spot. And guard the link till it spawn its last few guys. Then set up another. I'm not paying more money just to let you spawn in 3 seconds earlier,you shouldnt be dieing that much anyway if you want to demand proto links. I already told everyone, these links are worse than not having any links. Bad players will continually spawn at them and die over and over because enemies have enough time to prepare before they spawn in. Also, I don't care if a logistics player repairs me, places a nanohive or follows me around. The only thing I care about is being revived and even then I don't feel entitled. Am I telling logistics players to run better equipment for my own benefit? No, I am telling them to stop running terrible uplinks because they are a detriment. People are actually reducing the chances of your team winning by placing these links. 1. Quit crying, and... 2. Just spawn at deployment and do your mini cross-country jog to the action, or... 3. Use a vehicle to get where you want to go, or... 4. Play with friends on mic so you know where and what you're spawning into, or... 5. God forbid drop your own high speed, perfectly placed uplinks all over the map since you're so perfect... I knew people would acknowledge me eventually. I am still hoping that KAGEHOSHI senpai will notice me. I digress, the fact that these uplinks are worse than no uplinks is very troublesome. I already travel hundreds of meters every battle. They don't affect me directly. Rather they sabotage the team. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
SELINA Silvermist Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2	Posted - 2015.07.16 16:58:00 - [46] - Quote Larkson Crazy Eye wrote: The other aspect I hate is if you die as an Amar logi you can't seem to use your own bonus to get back on the field, it seems to tied to you being alive. Any time you die your uplinks seem to lose their bonus till your back on the field with another Amar logi suit. As long as you bleed out your bonus still works. What puzzles me much more is how the times are calculated... If the advanced flux uplink usually needs 11 seconds and I have skilled the Amarr logi suit to 3 or 4, why do my own placed uplinks show up as 3 seconds?
Larkson Crazy Eye WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 85	Posted - 2015.07.16 19:47:00 - [47] - Quote SELINA Silvermist wrote: Larkson Crazy Eye wrote: The other aspect I hate is if you die as an Amar logi you can't seem to use your own bonus to get back on the field, it seems to tied to you being alive. Any time you die your uplinks seem to lose their bonus till your back on the field with another Amar logi suit. As long as you bleed out your bonus still works. What puzzles me much more is how the times are calculated... If the advanced flux uplink usually needs 11 seconds and I have skilled the Amarr logi suit to 3 or 4, why do my own placed uplinks show up as 3 seconds? For every second your on the field but haven't bleed out uplink timers seem to go down by one second to a minimum of 3.
maybe deadcatz the nomercs 349	Posted - 2015.07.17 00:19:00 - [48] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Wa wa wa, I don't want to run all the way to the objectuve,place a link. Wa wa wa its a ten second link I don't wanna wait that long,wa wa wa I don't wanna fight the enemy team unless I got a logi repping me and running scans 24/7. TAKE THE FUCING LINK I SET DOWN AND QUIT COMPLAINING, be grateful that I least set up the link in a safe spot. And guard the link till it spawn its last few guys. Then set up another. I'm not paying more money just to let you spawn in 3 seconds earlier,you shouldnt be dieing that much anyway if you want to demand proto links. After reading your signature I'm not sure you understand what anyone is really talking about. I'm not sure deadcatz's first language is English because they seem to be easily confused by every possible post in existence. my first language is english but after i was kidnapped by tigers i quickly became used to the gutteral meows then my spanish came in handy when the tourists saved me. scanner? whats that? you can see enemies on the radar? just use your eyes and save a equipment slot for something useful
maybe deadcatz the nomercs 349	Posted - 2015.07.17 00:22:00 - [49] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Wa wa wa, I don't want to run all the way to the objectuve,place a link. Wa wa wa its a ten second link I don't wanna wait that long,wa wa wa I don't wanna fight the enemy team unless I got a logi repping me and running scans 24/7. TAKE THE FUCING LINK I SET DOWN AND QUIT COMPLAINING, be grateful that I least set up the link in a safe spot. And guard the link till it spawn its last few guys. Then set up another. I'm not paying more money just to let you spawn in 3 seconds earlier,you shouldnt be dieing that much anyway if you want to demand proto links. I already told everyone, these links are worse than not having any links. Bad players will continually spawn at them and die over and over because enemies have enough time to prepare before they spawn in. Also, I don't care if a logistics player repairs me, places a nanohive or follows me around. The only thing I care about is being revived and even then I don't feel entitled. Am I telling logistics players to run better equipment for my own benefit? No, I am telling them to stop running terrible uplinks because they are a detriment. People are actually reducing the chances of your team winning by placing these links. cough cough. the enemy has to take the long run to the objective because i kill all of them before i set up a link. and reck their links. i hate seeing that little dot on my radar and its stay there for a while since i run amarr battlemurder scout. scanner? whats that? you can see enemies on the radar? just use your eyes and save a equipment slot for something useful
DeadlyAztec11 Defenders of the Helghast Dream 8	Posted - 2015.07.17 00:26:00 - [50] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Wa wa wa, I don't want to run all the way to the objectuve,place a link. Wa wa wa its a ten second link I don't wanna wait that long,wa wa wa I don't wanna fight the enemy team unless I got a logi repping me and running scans 24/7. TAKE THE FUCING LINK I SET DOWN AND QUIT COMPLAINING, be grateful that I least set up the link in a safe spot. And guard the link till it spawn its last few guys. Then set up another. I'm not paying more money just to let you spawn in 3 seconds earlier,you shouldnt be dieing that much anyway if you want to demand proto links. After reading your signature I'm not sure you understand what anyone is really talking about. I'm not sure deadcatz's first language is English because they seem to be easily confused by every possible post in existence. my first language is english but after i was kidnapped by tigers i quickly became used to the gutteral meows then my spanish came in handy when the tourists saved me. Spanish is my first language, English is my second and French is my third. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.

maybe deadcatz the nomercs 349	Posted - 2015.07.17 00:27:00 - [51] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Wa wa wa, I don't want to run all the way to the objectuve,place a link. Wa wa wa its a ten second link I don't wanna wait that long,wa wa wa I don't wanna fight the enemy team unless I got a logi repping me and running scans 24/7. TAKE THE FUCING LINK I SET DOWN AND QUIT COMPLAINING, be grateful that I least set up the link in a safe spot. And guard the link till it spawn its last few guys. Then set up another. I'm not paying more money just to let you spawn in 3 seconds earlier,you shouldnt be dieing that much anyway if you want to demand proto links. After reading your signature I'm not sure you understand what anyone is really talking about. I'm not sure deadcatz's first language is English because they seem to be easily confused by every possible post in existence. my first language is english but after i was kidnapped by tigers i quickly became used to the gutteral meows then my spanish came in handy when the tourists saved me. Spanish is my first language, English is my second and French is my third. you hispanic too? im american born and learned english more than spanish so it sounds kind of gutteral as flux sometimes scanner? whats that? you can see enemies on the radar? just use your eyes and save a equipment slot for something useful
DeadlyAztec11 Defenders of the Helghast Dream 8	Posted - 2015.07.17 00:39:00 - [52] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: you hispanic too? im american born and learned english more than spanish so it sounds kind of gutteral as flux sometimes I got rid of my accent before I even went to kindergarten. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Immortal John Ripper 27	Posted - 2015.07.17 00:45:00 - [53] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: you hispanic too? im american born and learned english more than spanish so it sounds kind of gutteral as flux sometimes I got rid of my accent before I even went to kindergarten. Spanish is my first language. I have no accent. Officially Quit dust. Now the property of Not Jadek Menaheim.
VAHZZ Nos Nothi 4	Posted - 2015.07.17 00:53:00 - [54] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: you hispanic too? im american born and learned english more than spanish so it sounds kind of gutteral as flux sometimes I got rid of my accent before I even went to kindergarten. Spanish is my first language. I have no accent. I am 'Murican, I have no language. X\|V
DeadlyAztec11 Defenders of the Helghast Dream 8	Posted - 2015.07.17 03:47:00 - [55] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: you hispanic too? im american born and learned english more than spanish so it sounds kind of gutteral as flux sometimes I got rid of my accent before I even went to kindergarten. Spanish is my first language. I have no accent. I am 'Murican, I have no language. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 935	Posted - 2015.07.17 03:53:00 - [56] - Quote I'm not going to bother reading this whole thing. First of all any uplink is better than no uplink. Second of all. It used to be worse, they used to be 19 seconds. Count your lucky stars Shields, the silent killer.


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