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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2015.07.15 05:39:00 -
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What do they have? A ten to 15 second timer?
These are the most malicious pieces of equipment in the game because they work completely against one's own team. Thus is because the waiting time is so long that often people will spawn in one at.a time and be easily killed by enemies with a numbers advantage.
A logistics player can completely sabotage a teams chance of winning if they place many of these close to the objectives. They are.basically ensuring that their enemy will always have a numbers advantage and adequate time to recover from their previous fights.
I am not tricked by these acts of sabotage, though, unfortunately many inexperienced players are.
I actually dislike these uplinks more than I do active scanners because these problems are caused by one's own team .
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.07.15 05:41:00 -
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In FW I usually spawn of them and destroy them if there are better ones around
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Evil V2 RE
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2015.07.15 05:49:00 -
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I agree that drop uplinks are evil but because of another reason...
People bring these more than nanos and it's irritating for people who are trying to hold off the objectives
No ammo and no nano hives but literally 10 drop uplinks. Literally caught with your pants down.
I got nothing...
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chill penguin
Bragian Order
169
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Posted - 2015.07.15 05:52:00 -
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I cremate any 10-15 second uplinks i find. Logis, bring proto links and hives. Is that too much to ask?
A True Slayer can only be born in the pits of Molden Heath
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Satyr Dante
Glitched Connection
9
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Posted - 2015.07.15 05:59:00 -
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Lets ignore the fact that droplinks are painful as all hell to go through and just be mad at the fact it takes 15 seconds for us to feel the pain |
Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
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Posted - 2015.07.15 05:59:00 -
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chill penguin wrote:I cremate any 10-15 second uplinks i find. Logis, bring proto links and hives. Is that too much to ask?
The Logi-Problem: needs to bring proto equipment, takes crap for using proto suit to fit it all and the equipment to support it, gains the same/similar payout as everyone else.
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
Vehicle Re-vamp Proposal
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D4GG3R
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.15 06:01:00 -
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My seraph logi has a templar uplink... so I'm going to use it
I'm pretty plain.
I watch anime for the boobs
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D4GG3R
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.15 06:02:00 -
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chill penguin wrote:I cremate any 10-15 second uplinks i find. Logis, bring proto links and hives. Is that too much to ask?
Run all proto all the time..... is that too much to ask? Proto links and hives aren't cheap and hardly worth it in a pub match.
I'm pretty plain.
I watch anime for the boobs
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Vitharr Foebane
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Posted - 2015.07.15 06:04:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:What do they have? A ten to 15 second timer?
These are the most malicious pieces of equipment in the game because they work completely against one's own team. Thus is because the waiting time is so long that often people will spawn in one at.a time and be easily killed by enemies with a numbers advantage.
A logistics player can completely sabotage a teams chance of winning if they place many of these close to the objectives. They are.basically ensuring that their enemy will always have a numbers advantage and adequate time to recover from their previous fights.
I am not tricked by these acts of sabotage, though, unfortunately many inexperienced players are.
I actually dislike these uplinks more than I do active scanners because these problems are caused by one's own team .
sounds like someone need an Amarr Logi in their life xD
Amarr Omnisoldier: Assault, Commando, Logistics, Scout, Sentinel at V
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Sleepy Shadow
Qualified Scrub
398
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Posted - 2015.07.15 06:11:00 -
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Maybe ask CCP to fix crappy equipment? I never bring bad links when IGÇÖm on my main but my poor alts that run starter fits sure do. Enjoy.
"I have never gotten a kill assist by fluxing a wall" - Baal Omniscient
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Skihids
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.07.15 06:20:00 -
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Hitch a ride to the objective on a dropship. |
DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2015.07.15 06:39:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:Maybe ask CCP to fix crappy equipment? I never bring bad links when IGÇÖm on my main but my poor alts that run starter fits sure do. Enjoy.
You screw over your team more by placing those uplinks then not placing them.
This isn't a case of me wanting better uplinks. I just don't want to have those.
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
324
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Posted - 2015.07.15 06:42:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:Maybe ask CCP to fix crappy equipment? I never bring bad links when IGÇÖm on my main but my poor alts that run starter fits sure do. Enjoy. You screw over your team more by placing those uplinks then not placing them. This isn't a case of me wanting better uplinks. I just don't want to have those.
I only promise to support my squadmates with the same tier of equipment that they use.
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
Vehicle Re-vamp Proposal
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Sicerly Yaw
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
642
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Posted - 2015.07.15 06:45:00 -
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chill penguin wrote:I cremate any 10-15 second uplinks i find. Logis, bring proto links and hives. Is that too much to ask?
for some yes not everyone can be as wealthy as the top brass
and its not really worth wasting good links on scrubs that will just place their own on top of them or straight out destroy them to get more points for themselves, the only place to really bring proto links is PC anywhere else it doesn't really matter, if you don't want to wait 15 seconds then don't die, not to mention that as long as your clone is not terminated spawns become much shorter
mlt links are better then no links and can help a logibro that needs to get in place quickly to drop their own higher tier links
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Sleepy Shadow
Qualified Scrub
398
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Posted - 2015.07.15 06:49:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:Maybe ask CCP to fix crappy equipment? I never bring bad links when IGÇÖm on my main but my poor alts that run starter fits sure do. Enjoy. You screw over your team more by placing those uplinks then not placing them. This isn't a case of me wanting better uplinks. I just don't want to have those.
No-one is forcing you to spawn on them, feel free to run from the red line if there are no alternatives. And it is the only equipment for a starter fit so of course I will drop them, for better or worse.
And I strongly disagree with screwing my team over with them though. It is better to have a 15 second uplink near an objective than none at all. I usually drop them as back-ups anyway, I trust someone has better links on my team.
"I have never gotten a kill assist by fluxing a wall" - Baal Omniscient
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
8
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Posted - 2015.07.15 06:50:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:
mlt links are better then no links and can help a logibro that needs to get in place quickly to drop their own higher tier links
No, you are wrong.
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DRT 99
RAT PATROL INC.
420
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Posted - 2015.07.15 06:54:00 -
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why were they ever nerfed in the first place? they used to only be 10s. |
Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.15 06:54:00 -
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How about we remove links so vehicle force projection actually mattered?
AND THEN STEVE BUSCEMI SHOWS UP ON A FLYING PIG FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON
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D4GG3R
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.15 06:55:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:
mlt links are better then no links and can help a logibro that needs to get in place quickly to drop their own higher tier links
No, you are wrong.
I think someone got uplink camped
I'm pretty plain.
I watch anime for the boobs
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
8
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Posted - 2015.07.15 07:01:00 -
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D4GG3R wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:
mlt links are better then no links and can help a logibro that needs to get in place quickly to drop their own higher tier links
No, you are wrong. I think someone got uplink camped
I don't use them anymore unless they are somewhere up in the mountains by themselves. Though, my less than competent teammates tend to die over and over to them.
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The Eristic
Art.of.Death
1
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Posted - 2015.07.15 07:10:00 -
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DRT 99 wrote:why were they ever nerfed in the first place? they used to only be 10s.
To make the Amarr Logi bonus valuable.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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xavier zor
Second-Nature
Negative-Feedback
1
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Posted - 2015.07.15 07:22:00 -
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D4GG3R wrote:chill penguin wrote:I cremate any 10-15 second uplinks i find. Logis, bring proto links and hives. Is that too much to ask? Run all proto all the time..... is that too much to ask? Proto links and hives aren't cheap and hardly worth it in a pub match.
proto hives cost too much for what they actually do
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Dzago Sevatarion
DUST University
Ivy League
80
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Posted - 2015.07.15 08:16:00 -
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At my scrub MMR my standard uplinks are often the only uplinks on the field. Welcome to hell.
It's bad enough I had to divert skill points from core skills to nanos so people would actually let me resuscitate them instead of wasting a clone because of "dirty needles." |
maybe deadcatz
the nomercs
340
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Posted - 2015.07.15 08:32:00 -
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Wa wa wa, I don't want to run all the way to the objectuve,place a link. Wa wa wa its a ten second link I don't wanna wait that long,wa wa wa I don't wanna fight the enemy team unless I got a logi repping me and running scans 24/7. TAKE THE FUCING LINK I SET DOWN AND QUIT COMPLAINING, be grateful that I least set up the link in a safe spot. And guard the link till it spawn its last few guys. Then set up another. I'm not paying more money just to let you spawn in 3 seconds earlier,you shouldnt be dieing that much anyway if you want to demand proto links.
scanner? whats that? you can see enemies on the radar? just use your eyes and save a equipment slot for something useful
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Kobain Irish Quiruz
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.07.15 08:43:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:What do they have? A ten to 15 second timer?
These are the most malicious pieces of equipment in the game because they work completely against one's own team. Thus is because the waiting time is so long that often people will spawn in one at.a time and be easily killed by enemies with a numbers advantage.
A logistics player can completely sabotage a teams chance of winning if they place many of these close to the objectives. They are.basically ensuring that their enemy will always have a numbers advantage and adequate time to recover from their previous fights.
I am not tricked by these acts of sabotage, though, unfortunately many inexperienced players are.
I actually dislike these uplinks more than I do active scanners because these problems are caused by one's own team .
Well I think the standard one takes much more CPU and PG than the Militia variant
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Larkson Crazy Eye
WarRavens
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
71
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Posted - 2015.07.15 08:57:00 -
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The original topic had a point, the arguments to back it up have not. Standard/milita links are pretty bad. It's not the15 second timer and the potential spawn killing that can happen. Those are problems any uplinks not heavily defended or in the middle of no where faces. No imo the biggest issue is the 6 clone limit. You end up waiting 10-12 seconds and the thing expires because 6 other people spawned before you did. Forcing you to wait again on some new spawn point. I kind of wish the uplink count worked in reverse. Everything started to count down when you die and when it hit zero you could pick an uplink.
That way you know if you hit the link, you will appear.
That said due to apex suits uplinks are far more common than they use to be. A 15 second delay isn't bad. If your farther than 50m from the redline the extra time you wait to spawn is most likely faster than you could of ran the distance. The biggest problem is bad uplinks in horrible locations coupled with the rather lame map we have to work with. You can't really see much detail even if you zoom in all the way. You can't tell where an uplink is, if it's on the building or underneath it etc. Then you got over lapping uplinks in a small area, making it nearly impossible to pick a good one over the junk.
Another feature I would love to have is squad tinted uplinks. Green equipment for stuff your squad put down would be great. Not to mention some way to tell where you own uplinks are. Right now you really have no idea if your uplinks have expired, been blown up etc unless you have them in such isolated places that nothing else is on the map. Not to mention the limit of how much equipment bothers to render on the map.
As for the complaint against logi's not using all proto equipment, meh suck it. Everyone else isn't running proto hives despite the fact everyone but heavy's have at least one equipment slot and for good reason. Proto equipment has an insanely high PG?CPU cost to go with the higher ISK cost. Even a proto logi would have to sacrifice some serious survivability to use all proto equipment, which would cause them to die even more often.
I tend to run a single type of proto equipment on my logi suits. Usually I take a proto rep tool just because the usefulness of the extra range and twin rep. Proto hives kind of suck. You get the same +10 supply, they blow up to enemy nearly as easily and grenades flat out own them just like other hives. Most hives could resupply the entire team for most of the match, if people didn't spawn grenades all the time. I'm not even talking about enemy grenades blowing them up. Most basic hives will expire after refilling a grenade or two. Even advanced proto don't stand a chance with how often people toss grenades.
Of course you have to go all the way to a supply depo or die to restock equipment as well. Most matches are pretty fluid and even if a nano hive doesn't expire the group moves on and abandons it where it lay. At best you get 6 hives, even some proto your gipped with a mere 3 hives. That's three uses for good or bad before that slot is worthless. That's why almost every other kind of equipment is more popular.
With rep tools, injectors and scanners you can use them unlimited times to help your team and earn WP. Uplinks are limited, but at 25 per spawn and on average 6-15 (plus amarr bonus if possible) you'll earn enough WP to justify carrying an uplink. Even if they don't run out or get blown up early. |
demonkiller 12
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
879
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:01:00 -
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chill penguin wrote:I cremate any 10-15 second uplinks i find. Logis, bring proto links and hives. Is that too much to ask?
Yes, it is. |
demonkiller 12
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
879
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:02:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Wa wa wa, I don't want to run all the way to the objectuve,place a link. Wa wa wa its a ten second link I don't wanna wait that long,wa wa wa I don't wanna fight the enemy team unless I got a logi repping me and running scans 24/7. TAKE THE FUCING LINK I SET DOWN AND QUIT COMPLAINING, be grateful that I least set up the link in a safe spot. And guard the link till it spawn its last few guys. Then set up another. I'm not paying more money just to let you spawn in 3 seconds earlier,you shouldnt be dieing that much anyway if you want to demand proto links.
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2015.07.15 16:06:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Wa wa wa, I don't want to run all the way to the objectuve,place a link. Wa wa wa its a ten second link I don't wanna wait that long,wa wa wa I don't wanna fight the enemy team unless I got a logi repping me and running scans 24/7. TAKE THE FUCING LINK I SET DOWN AND QUIT COMPLAINING, be grateful that I least set up the link in a safe spot. And guard the link till it spawn its last few guys. Then set up another. I'm not paying more money just to let you spawn in 3 seconds earlier,you shouldnt be dieing that much anyway if you want to demand proto links. After reading your signature I'm not sure you understand what anyone is really talking about.
I'm not sure deadcatz's first language is English because they seem to be easily confused by every possible post in existence.
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DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2015.07.15 16:12:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Wa wa wa, I don't want to run all the way to the objectuve,place a link. Wa wa wa its a ten second link I don't wanna wait that long,wa wa wa I don't wanna fight the enemy team unless I got a logi repping me and running scans 24/7. TAKE THE FUCING LINK I SET DOWN AND QUIT COMPLAINING, be grateful that I least set up the link in a safe spot. And guard the link till it spawn its last few guys. Then set up another. I'm not paying more money just to let you spawn in 3 seconds earlier,you shouldnt be dieing that much anyway if you want to demand proto links.
I already told everyone, these links are worse than not having any links.
Bad players will continually spawn at them and die over and over because enemies have enough time to prepare before they spawn in.
Also, I don't care if a logistics player repairs me, places a nanohive or follows me around. The only thing I care about is being revived and even then I don't feel entitled.
Am I telling logistics players to run better equipment for my own benefit? No, I am telling them to stop running terrible uplinks because they are a detriment. People are actually reducing the chances of your team winning by placing these links.
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