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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.07.14 18:20:00 -
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I recently got back from a break from Dust, and it's sad to say I was quite eager to play.. until I loaded up a match.. 
Running a squad with some corpmates and I was back to clueless blueberry stage (not that I'm ever far from it)
In the first battle I was asking 'Have the graphics changed?' 'Why does it feel like I'm stuck in quicksand?'
While away I did sweet f' all gaming so it wasn't like another game controls mixed it up, Dust just felt wrong 
To be fair after a couple of battles it got back to normal, but I really have to say normal around here is not that great 
Then onto some PC battles, DMG VS A.I / T.R / N-F all of which had performance issues - on both teams. This is not unexpected but from most experience 'who lags less wins' as most battles I find one team suffers more than the other due to the server.
So far in PC 2.0 (I've played 6 PC battles) and all of which had worse than usual performance for both teams. No ammount of bells and whistles will cover this up, PC 2.0 does leave the door open for new blood to get involved but if they come in and have to sacrifice a goat and pray to the mercy of the empress just to reach a supply depot due to lag/framerate issues you will just see even more get put off of this and on to other games. So CCP what is the plan to have this sorted ??
Clearly, by PC 2.0 you want more to participate.. but all recent updates seem aimed at visuals or material items
while very little is mentioned from CCP regarding the performance issues that have plagued us, and seem to get worse.
Each update, 1000 goats are sacrificed throughout New Eden in hopes that the gods will favour us
Yet in each update, crops die, villages are abandoned and the playerbase has to make do with living on... Dust
I'm in no position to say how it should be fixed, but as a Dust gamer, I can say it needs to be fixed. asSOONTMaspossible.
Good points - Platoons, useful for gathering PC's though with the in battle 'bug' where mercs are not visible in squad once deployed and makes management of them a pain in the backside. Also 4-man squads seem good for public balance.
Aurum sales since release of SKINS/Components/BPO's have certainly been higher than usual judging by the glamour mercs are sporting in most battles, I would like to see CCP put some of this to use to improve performance, the #1 reason so many choose to avoid lagging in to play a few battles regardless of the potential rewards for doing so.
*places goat on alter* *cries in anguish at the clouds*
CCP RATTATI SAVE US !!! THE INFANTRY OF NEW EDEN DEPEND ON YOUR BLESSING !!!
*slits goats throat* *rubs blood over naked body and begins the corporate blood orgy*
That should get us through the PC battle with Prima later.. but I'm running out of goats for future battles. |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.14 18:22:00 -
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I'm not sure what I just read.
All I know is this man is very angry about lag.
Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST
Un-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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zDemoncake
Horizons' Edge
No Context
893
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Posted - 2015.07.14 18:23:00 -
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You can sacrifice me 
CEO of Horizons' Edge's mercenary division
My soul, your beats!
Enemy to many; equal to none.
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.07.14 18:23:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:I'm not sure what I just read. All I know is this man is very angry about lag.
Good, it's about all you need to pick up from this, thanks for tuning in
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.14 18:24:00 -
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zDemoncake wrote:You can sacrafice me
Unrelated, but nice freaking sig.
Angel Beats was actually the first show to make me cry for real. The credits killed me.
Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST
Un-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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zDemoncake
Horizons' Edge
No Context
893
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Posted - 2015.07.14 18:25:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:zDemoncake wrote:You can sacrafice me Unrelated, but nice freaking sig. Angel Beats was actually the first show to make me cry for real. The credits killed me.
I think this is your third time complimenting me on my Sig xD
CEO of Horizons' Edge's mercenary division
My soul, your beats!
Enemy to many; equal to none.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.14 18:27:00 -
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zDemoncake wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:zDemoncake wrote:You can sacrafice me Unrelated, but nice freaking sig. Angel Beats was actually the first show to make me cry for real. The credits killed me. I think this is your third time complimenting me on my Sig xD
I will always comment on Angel Beats 
Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST
Un-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.07.14 18:27:00 -
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zDemoncake wrote:You can sacrifice me
Well if you're a virgin it might just work.. contact me after midnight and wear the oufit I am having sent out to you.
CCP.. the hamsters are dead, the goats are running scared.. don't makes us kill of the sweet innocent virgins!!! |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.07.14 18:34:00 -
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Looks like the goats you sacrificed benefited me more than you. I was in a PC battle a few days ago against Second Nature and there was no lag.
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Haerr
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
3
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Posted - 2015.07.14 18:53:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:I recently got back from a break from Dust, and it's sad to say I was quite eager to play.. until I loaded up a match.. Running a squad with some corpmates and I was back to clueless blueberry stage (not that I'm ever far from it) In the first battle I was asking 'Have the graphics changed?' 'Why does it feel like I'm stuck in quicksand?' While away I did sweet f' all gaming so it wasn't like another game controls mixed it up, Dust just felt wrong To be fair after a couple of battles it got back to normal, but I really have to say normal around here is not that great Then onto some PC battles, DMG VS A.I / T.R / N-F all of which had performance issues - on both teams. This is not unexpected but from most experience 'who lags less wins' as most battles I find one team suffers more than the other due to the server. So far in PC 2.0 (I've played 6 PC battles) and all of which had worse than usual performance for both teams. No ammount of bells and whistles will cover this up, PC 2.0 does leave the door open for new blood to get involved but if they come in and have to sacrifice a goat and pray to the mercy of the empress just to reach a supply depot due to lag/framerate issues you will just see even more get put off of this and on to other games. So CCP what is the plan to have this sorted ?? Clearly, by PC 2.0 you want more to participate.. but all recent updates seem aimed at visuals or material items while very little is mentioned from CCP regarding the performance issues that have plagued us, and seem to get worse. Each update, 1000 goats are sacrificed throughout New Eden in hopes that the gods will favour us Yet in each update, crops die, villages are abandoned and the playerbase has to make do with living on... Dust I'm in no position to say how it should be fixed, but as a Dust gamer, I can say it needs to be fixed. as SOONTMaspossible. Good points - Platoons, useful for gathering PC's though with the in battle 'bug' where mercs are not visible in squad once deployed and makes management of them a pain in the backside. Also 4-man squads seem good for public balance. Aurum sales since release of SKINS/Components/BPO's have certainly been higher than usual judging by the glamour mercs are sporting in most battles, I would like to see CCP put some of this to use to improve performance, the #1 reason so many choose to avoid lagging in to play a few battles regardless of the potential rewards for doing so. *places goat on alter* *cries in anguish at the clouds*CCP RATTATI SAVE US !!! THE INFANTRY OF NEW EDEN DEPEND ON YOUR BLESSING !!! *slits goats throat* *rubs blood over naked body and begins the corporate blood orgy*That should get us through the PC battle with Prima later.. but I'm running out of goats for future battles.
^^^
+1
Goat supplies are running low all over new eden.
The whole ritual includes a few more items before the goat sacrifices, read about it here. |
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JIMvc2
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.07.14 21:51:00 -
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lol
Why did the white girl cross the road? To get to Starbucks. <-- My GF will kill me if I ask her that lol :)
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
808
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Posted - 2015.07.15 02:55:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:zDemoncake wrote:You can sacrafice me Unrelated, but nice freaking sig. Angel Beats was actually the first show to make me cry for real. The credits killed me.
That train crash though
Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) No.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
7
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Posted - 2015.07.15 03:49:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:zDemoncake wrote:You can sacrafice me Unrelated, but nice freaking sig. Angel Beats was actually the first show to make me cry for real. The credits killed me. That train crash though
That 2nd episode though was the funniest.... I miss TK
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.07.15 10:35:00 -
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bump for the love of goats
Tonights battles vs Hundred Acre Hood, a double date with Academy Inferno then Ultimate Spawn
I only have 2 goats and I picked up a virgin in AFW last night, Let's hope that it's enough..
One thing I noticed yesterday, was if both teams lag a bit more it 'balances' a PC battle in a sticky tape method, rather than one team haviing a server advantage.. both teams have a server disadvantage, making a more even contest 
- Obviously not ideal, but I'm not seeing another solution on offer
- CCP's tear generator would explode... so more food for them
- Teams don't have to rely on blood sacrifices to gain the favour of the server
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Gregor stormwalker
Closed Beta Retirement Home
142
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Posted - 2015.07.15 10:57:00 -
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to help blueberry's catch the required number of goat necessary for PC CCP are releasing noob friendly goats into the wield
myotonic goat
check out my dust skills planner/ shop front website
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:07:00 -
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The only vague hope on the horizon is the implementation of powercores, and the elimination of suit variants that goes with it. Tiercide was stage one of this change, though obviously the performance benefits won't materialise until the actual suits are removed.
Am I optimistic that this will reduce PC frame rate drop? Kind of. But I don't think it will make a large difference.
I've heard rumours that the voice chat is a large part of the problem. Do we really need voice chat with Eve? No. But I doubt CCP will put in the resources to streamline this.
Until we are ported to PC, and can easily use third party voice chat to bypass CCP's version, I don't see this improving much.
Will CCP employ a load of programmers to further optimise the game, at this late stage, on PS3? I highly doubt it.
In the meantime, BrotherOfHavok has a good YouTube video about reducing PC frame trouble.
By the way, I know I'm talking about frames rather than lag, but I'm strongly of the opinion they are connected.
Perhaps it's the game's counter-lag measures that nuke the performance? There's no way of getting round the fact that playing an fps vs people on the other side of the world is going to be laggy. This is a fundamental design issue with the whole game concept. But lag I can deal with. One frame per second I cannot. This is the single biggest problem with the game at the moment imo.
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:21:00 -
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Regardless of platform it is an issue that can be cut out with some work dedicated to it, yes tiercide is step one though the slow addition of new suits on top of old suits and more fittings with the progression is adding more slutter until it's cleaned up. Once finished I am expecting improvement, but it is not going to make the user experience change that much for 80% of us.
Your logic won't save you Varoth, your children belonged to me as soon as you signed the contract  |
Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:25:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Regardless of platform it is an issue that can be cut out with some work dedicated to it, yes tiercide is step one though the slow addition of new suits on top of old suits and more fittings with the progression is adding more slutter until it's cleaned up. Once finished I am expecting improvement, but it is not going to make the user experience change that much for 80% of us. Your logic won't save you Varoth, your children belonged to me as soon as you signed the contract
Just keep them away from Hughes, or the sacrifice won't work. |
501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:27:00 -
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Welcome back. Now take a shower please...
"There are no rights. The world owes no one a living."-Sumner
*The Mascot of 0uter.Heaven *
Internet down atm :(
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xavier zor
Second-Nature
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:37:00 -
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501st Headstrong wrote:Welcome back. Now take a shower please...
yuck
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/11K_dRCr0fQKIkDOKDLt6XTrhYjcBVB6QlZuyGcPDaZc/viewform?c=0&w=1
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SAURON G TRONSTER
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:34:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
810
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Posted - 2015.07.15 16:00:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:bump for the love of goats Tonights battles vs Hundred Acre Hood, a double date with Academy Inferno then Ultimate Spawn I only have 2 goats and I picked up a virgin in AFW last night, Let's hope that it's enough.. One thing I noticed yesterday, was if both teams lag a bit more it 'balances' a PC battle in a sticky tape method, rather than one team haviing a server advantage.. both teams have a server disadvantage, making a more even contest - Obviously not ideal, but I'm not seeing another solution on offer - CCP's tear generator would explode... so more food for them - Teams don't have to rely on blood sacrifices to gain the favour of the server
I like how you just skipped a bunch of animals and went straight to virgins...
10/10 ign
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.07.15 16:06:00 -
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Idk why you would sacrifice virgins? At least take their virginity before sacrificing them
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.07.15 16:08:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:TheD1CK wrote:bump for the love of goats Tonights battles vs Hundred Acre Hood, a double date with Academy Inferno then Ultimate Spawn I only have 2 goats and I picked up a virgin in AFW last night, Let's hope that it's enough.. One thing I noticed yesterday, was if both teams lag a bit more it 'balances' a PC battle in a sticky tape method, rather than one team haviing a server advantage.. both teams have a server disadvantage, making a more even contest - Obviously not ideal, but I'm not seeing another solution on offer - CCP's tear generator would explode... so more food for them - Teams don't have to rely on blood sacrifices to gain the favour of the server I like how you just skipped a bunch of animals and went straight to virgins... 10/10 ign
working as inteded.. though I think Hughes got his hands on this one as the server caught fire,
oh well.. lock up your children/goats we need a lot more blood orgys to if we are fighting these battles today
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.07.15 16:10:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Idk why you would sacrifice virgins? At least take their virginity before sacrificing them
This does not please the gods. Unclean sacrifices are proven to cause framerate issues 
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.07.16 11:03:00 -
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Public apology for Extended Downtime yetersday, we made a unclean sacrifice due to Hughes tainting our virgin.
The Gods punished us for this insult |
OliX PRZESMIEWCA
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.07.16 11:13:00 -
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Thirty two players form all regions lost in US PC server. And at least one stinker with bt from previous century...
No, I don't see any connection at all... |
TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.07.16 11:37:00 -
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OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote:Thirty two players form all regions lost in US PC server. And at least one stinker with bt from previous century... No, I don't see any connection at all...
Hey!!! That bt cost be good money.. and I washed recently so to be honest that's quite rude.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.07.16 12:17:00 -
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+1
Please fix lag.
Please fix PC lag.
Have goats. Will send.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.07.16 14:26:00 -
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Hamsters long gone and forgotten, goats' days are numbered. Virgins throwing themselves on the alter for the honor of their families and love of the game.
Where's Rattati?
Dunno but who's that hooded stranger hawkin' trinkets out in front of the temple?
PSN: RationalSpark
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.07.16 14:30:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Looks like the goats you sacrificed benefited me more than you. I was in a PC battle a few days ago against Second Nature and there was no lag.
Dead Man's Game tirelessly supporting the community ^^ it feels good to give something back to Dust514
- We currently have a recruitment drive for goat-herders and virgins willing to sacrifce life for Dust
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.07.17 14:39:00 -
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Revive!!! + 90 WP
A battle last night between DMG and DDB... several players on BOTH teams disconnected and I know from our view we ran about a slideshow. Is there anything being looked into regarding lag/framerate by CCP... ???
Or am I doing something wrong?? should the goats be virgins?? or the virgins be goats??
All these rituals to have a smooth battle get confusing  |
Tebu Gan
0uter.Heaven
1
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Posted - 2015.07.17 15:44:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Revive!!! + 90 WP A battle last night between DMG and DDB... several players on BOTH teams disconnected and I know from our view we ran about a slideshow. Is there anything being looked into regarding lag/framerate by CCP... ??? Or am I doing something wrong?? should the goats be virgins?? or the virgins be goats?? All these rituals to have a smooth battle get confusing
I had a few battles last night (don't remember if you guys were one of them I do ring for DDB as they are my old corp). First battle, few minutes in lag kicked into high gear. OH guys left, got picked back and and put back in, and lag was very tolerable.
Next battle though, no lag from me. Love those battles.
First battle was that awful bridge map, though while one of the best maps to play on for tankers, terrible on the lag. It's hit or miss, and when that lag starts it's game over for your performance. In the future I'm going to leave and come back into battles and hope this continues to alleviate some of my problems. |
Haerr
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.17 16:35:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Is there anything being looked into regarding lag/framerate by CCP... ??? Wondering about this too.
Kocken Fanni Hellsvik hade bra ork när hon fick spela fagott vid fartkontrollen sex stationer innan slutstation
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.07.17 16:48:00 -
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We're laughing to keep from crying?! The lag is no laughing matter. PC lag is horrendous, and there's no way of really knowing how bad the enemy team is lagging in comparison o the lag you're experiencing?!
Out of goats..... got a fresh shipment of virgins in two days ago?!
"Anybody order chaos?"
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zDemoncake
Horizons' Edge
No Context
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Posted - 2015.07.17 17:23:00 -
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Have you all tried sacrificing virgin goats?
CEO of Horizons' Edge's mercenary division
My soul, your beats!
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.07.17 17:37:00 -
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I've spoken to CCP about this before on several occasions.
Lots of lag is tied to the fact that the players of both sides are from all sorts of various places.
If you were aware recently in order to limit lag in Destiny they even sacrificed having more balanced matchmaking in favor of having les lag by putting you in with people closer to you.
PC doesn't have any way to assuage the problem of having 32 people from all different places being in a match at the same time.
Other parts of lag and framerate are best solved by porting Dust....to be a bit more specific:
The time investment to optimize code in the endeavor of mitigating framerate issues is such a tedious and costly goal that it's unlikely to be made a priority over 'low hanging fruit' objectives that can provide a high yield of value to the community with lower investment of resources.
If something easy can be optimized and make a significant difference, I think CCP would see it as a no brainer and the CPM would unanimously support allocating required resources.
Convincing CCP to go on a wild goose chase hoping they can find the holy grail/one ring is a tall order.
Founder & CEO of Fatal Absolution
Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.07.17 17:41:00 -
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Yeah, all the progression change towards PC doesn't mean jack if you can't enjoy it.
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1
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Posted - 2015.07.17 17:44:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:I've spoken to CCP about this before on several occasions.
Lots of lag is tied to the fact that the players of both sides are from all sorts of various places.
If you were aware recently in order to limit lag in Destiny they even sacrificed having more balanced matchmaking in favor of having les lag by putting you in with people closer to you.
PC doesn't have any way to assuage the problem of having 32 people from all different places being in a match at the same time.
Other parts of lag and framerate are best solved by porting Dust....to be a bit more specific:
The time investment to optimize code in the endeavor of mitigating framerate issues is such a tedious and costly goal that it's unlikely to be made a priority over 'low hanging fruit' objectives that can provide a high yield of value to the community with lower investment of resources.
If something easy can be optimized and make a significant difference, I think CCP would see it as a no brainer and the CPM would unanimously support allocating required resources.
Convincing CCP to go on a wild goose chase hoping they can find the holy grail/one ring is a tall order.
Give us one good DEV who does nothing but this and hope he finds fixes. I'm sure that's all we'd need and it would be money well spent if ANY improvements were made.
Personally I don't believe the majority of the 'lag' people complain about is due to different locations but instead due to FPS issues and memory issues/leaks.
I would also suggest that recent updates have made FPS issues even worse then before, so recent changes are having a very negative effect on the game. Public battles have gone from only certain maps giving FPS issues to almost every map giving FPS issues.
Overlord of Broman
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.17 18:00:00 -
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Reality and fact isn't fashioned by your surety or beliefs.
Being sure of yourself that all we need is a good dev and that any improvements made would be worth the opportunity cost elsewhere is not a convincing argument.
Nor is a personal belief that FPS issues and memory leaks are responsible for the majority of lag.
I'd love to see any proof that you have to support your personal beliefs. That would be far more efficacious.
Founder & CEO of Fatal Absolution
Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
official pawn of ArkenaKirkMerc
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1
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Posted - 2015.07.17 18:17:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Reality and fact isn't fashioned by your surety or beliefs.
Being sure of yourself that all we need is a good dev and that any improvements made would be worth the opportunity cost elsewhere is not a convincing argument.
Nor is a personal belief that FPS issues and memory leaks are responsible for the majority of lag.
I'd love to see any proof that you have to support your personal beliefs. That would be far more efficacious.
I believe that performance issues is a big issue for a decent size of the community given:
a) forum posts
b) discussions in game with a players I have interacted with
I base my 'belief' of you being wrong about player locations being the primary cause and it being other issues due to:
a) my fairly significant programming experience
b) my personal observation in game on performance issue behaviour as to when it occurs and what I was doing prior to that i.e. if I move from inside the city to outside the city in a battle the chances of having performance issues greatly increase, especially on certain maps
c) the behaviour of PC battles that you can actually leave and rejoin. The players in the battle do not change when you do this but this is almost guranted to vastly reduce FPS performance issues.
d) the fact the restarting the PS3 prior to the relog and now just reloging your character prior to a PC battle will vastly reduce you're chances of FPS issues.
Overlord of Broman
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.17 18:29:00 -
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I reiterate, if you have any proof I can take to CCP I'd love to see it.
I never said the primary cause of lag was player locations. The people who make the game, and might possibly just know a little more than you...said that that's a major contributor to lag.
There could be plenty of explanations why lag is reduced when you relog or rejoin despite perhaps that lag is being affected in a major way by the various locations of the participants.
Founder & CEO of Fatal Absolution
Skype: Zatara.Rought Email: Zatara.Forever@gmail
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.07.17 18:48:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Reality and fact isn't fashioned by your surety or beliefs.
Being sure of yourself that all we need is a good dev and that any improvements made would be worth the opportunity cost elsewhere is not a convincing argument.
Nor is a personal belief that FPS issues and memory leaks are responsible for the majority of lag.
I'd love to see any proof that you have to support your personal beliefs. That would be far more efficacious.
So we do nothing? That's great?! Thanks o7
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.07.17 19:03:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Reality and fact isn't fashioned by your surety or beliefs.
Being sure of yourself that all we need is a good dev and that any improvements made would be worth the opportunity cost elsewhere is not a convincing argument.
Nor is a personal belief that FPS issues and memory leaks are responsible for the majority of lag.
I'd love to see any proof that you have to support your personal beliefs. That would be far more efficacious. So we do nothing? That's great?! Thanks o7
Quite the contrary.
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.07.17 19:08:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:I reiterate, if you have any proof I can take to CCP I'd love to see it.
I never said the primary cause of lag was player locations. The people who make the game, and might possibly just know a little more than you...said that that's a major contributor to lag.
There could be plenty of explanations why lag is reduced when you relog or rejoin despite perhaps that lag is being affected in a major way by the various locations of the participants.
It's impossible for me or other non-devs to get concrete proof IMO; however, logical assumptions due to extended first hand experience is possible.
I'm sure location is a contributor to lag; however, if they believe it's a big contributor I believe they're wrong. I may or may not be right. However, there have been past cases where I have seen issues and immediately known the cause while the devs coded these issues in and didn't figure it out until way down the road (i.e. contact lists anyone?).
I'm not trying to beat down the devs, they have done some great work, they've also done some shoddy work. I believe that they should prioritize cleaning up shoddy work (i.e. delete all contacts functionality, simple to code yet so useful).
Perhaps as a CPM you should push CCP to do an official survey of the player base to find out what the current player base believes are the key issues so that they could put some focus on the communities concerns alongside their overall goals.
Overlord of Broman
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.07.17 19:17:00 -
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Just to explain a bit further about the contact list issue, here is what was happening IMO:
- Each image associated with a player was being loaded instead of just using the same image for the different race (i.e. 4 races four images, instead of x contacts x images). It actually almost seemed like they sent each image across the network too instead of having it on the client (i would guess this was eve / future plan related). I would love to have a dev confirm this fact :)
- Each time you delete a contact it reloaded the entire list. It still does this and it's wrong, just remove that contact from the list after sending the delete command to the server
With their fix:
- They no long show images and it's much faster.
Overlord of Broman
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.07.18 06:45:00 -
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I have been extremely lucky when it comes to "lag" in the form of Frame Rate Drops, as I basically never experienced it...
"Network lag" you can sadly never get rid off, since it is an unfortunate side effect of physics and locations.
However, people tend to mix these up (Frame Rate Drops vs Network Lag), especially when they voice their concerns in the forums.
Its extremely importaint we separate these terms, as it might lead to miscommunication and confusion, especially when dealing with CCP.
Example:
- Player complains about "lag" in PC, but is in reality complaining of Frame Rate Drops.
- CCP responds that "lag" is due to location and Network quality (which is correct), but in their world "lag" means Network Lag..
Now, CCP are smart people and can probably deduce what the players are really saying, but in bug reports it's important to give as clear descriptions of the problem as possible, to reduce misunderstanding.
@CPM: Ask CCP to release their internal terminology of these problems (or whatever they use), so we can give more directed and accurate bug reports.
The only thing I hear right now is "lag", "lag", "lag"  |
Petra 222 SoM
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
108
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Posted - 2015.07.18 07:10:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Reality and fact isn't fashioned by your surety or beliefs.
Being sure of yourself that all we need is a good dev and that any improvements made would be worth the opportunity cost elsewhere is not a convincing argument.
Nor is a personal belief that FPS issues and memory leaks are responsible for the majority of lag.
I'd love to see any proof that you have to support your personal beliefs. That would be far more efficacious. So we do nothing? That's great?! Thanks o7 Quite the contrary.
Were you the CPM member that said they pushed specifically for RR Changes and got them accomplished?
Are any of the members pushing specifically for framerate or lag improvement? Because that is the CPM that will win Dust.
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:zDemoncake wrote:You can sacrafice me Unrelated, but nice freaking sig. Angel Beats was actually the first show to make me cry for real. The credits killed me.
Cry for real? Over a cartoon? Smdh you guys....
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Haerr
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
3
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Posted - 2015.07.18 09:34:00 -
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WTB Goats
Kocken Fanni Hellsvik hade bra ork när hon fick spela fagott vid fartkontrollen sex stationer innan slutstation
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.07.19 11:30:00 -
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Title changed for accuracy. Goat herding outside of DMG in this thread is strictly prohibited, please report to me in-game if you can help as we restock our Goat supply, a battle with 0.H later, luckily dusty5678 should be there, so we have our virgin.
Trainwreck forum posting prof.5
Sorry I am too busy to come to the phone right now, I am actually playing the game.
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Deputy ReGnUM
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2015.07.19 14:40:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Idk why you would sacrifice virgins? At least take their virginity before sacrificing them
Clearly Heim (and person who has like said post) has never bedded with a virgin. The exoticism does not out weigh the costs:
Really Bad Sex, Tier 5 clinger, and its just ******* messy |
Thor Odinson42
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.19 14:57:00 -
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That first NAE battle against SN I had unbearable lag. FG shots wouldn't come out (ammo stayed full).
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.07.19 15:16:00 -
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I just flew my Python in 2 PCs last night. The first one the frames were so bad that all I could do was pop uplinks.
If you think your frames drop when you're on the ground, you have no idea how bad it gets in the air.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Sgt Kirk
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
11
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Posted - 2015.07.19 15:39:00 -
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I'm just going to leave this here
Sgt Kirk's Official Propaganda Youtube Channel
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.07.19 15:44:00 -
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Deputy ReGnUM wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Idk why you would sacrifice virgins? At least take their virginity before sacrificing them Clearly Heim (and person who has like said post) has never bedded with a virgin. The exoticism does not out weigh the costs: Really Bad Sex, Tier 5 clinger, and its just ******* messy
Actually that's what I like about it
#smalldikproblems
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.07.19 15:45:00 -
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Yeah, being on the otherside of that was not much better.. but you gotta love PC, and Regniers sexy voice
Trainwreck forum posting prof.5
Sorry I am too busy to come to the phone right now, I am actually playing the game.
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Haerr
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
3
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Posted - 2015.07.21 15:51:00 -
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You ought to switch that skull in your logo to a goat. Just saying...
Kocken Fanni Hellsvik hade bra ork när hon fick spela fagott vid fartkontrollen sex stopp innan slutstation!
Swedish
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.07.21 18:16:00 -
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I know that every battle has different levels of playability / lag / framerate issues etc... some better than others, however how can anyone seriously get involved when such a wild card as that exists?
Scenario: Ok so you get deep into pc, you want to create and train a team that really can take it to the top dogs out there. The challenge is there, the banter, the smack talking even the rewards are forming slowly..... You get into a critical battle and then BOOM - one of the many terrible lag issues strikes.
That for me is so off putting. (Not that I am anyone special in this game but I am the kind of guy that would be interested in the challenge)
"Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
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