I don't play eve (too complicated) but I wanna ask.

This is what I know.

Earth as we know it but thousands of tarts in the future. New technologies, we head out to space and explore, find a worm hole and we are I. New Eden. Hole collapses and colonies are shut off and perish.

Stuff happenes. 4 races emerge from corners of new Eden.

First to emerge were amarr I think then Gallente then caldari then minmatar

Then more stiff happen

amarr find Gallente and try to enslave but fail I believe (cuz Gallente kick @$$)

Gallente and caldari are the allies and stuff

Amarr find minmatar and enslave them for centuries.

Time passes.

Tension between Gallente and caldari break and we are enemies. Gallente also f**** caldari prime (cuz we kick @$$)

Amarr I think find jove and Jove humiliate amarr (cuz they also kick @$$)

Minmatar see that and make a huge rebellion and most find freedom (or few I think) this freedom mass drivers and hmg.

Gallente aid minmatar and we are now allies.

Caldari are amarr allies now? Yes.

Jove are neutral and just sleeping somewhere.

Currently, amarr want to fight them? They gonna lose cuz Jove kick @$$

Is this correct?

Amarr- dual heavy tankers, slow, medium range, prefers armor tank.

Caldari- shield tankers,medium speed long range

Gallente- armor tank and rep, medium speed but also fast because in kincats or what ever they have in eve, cqc

Minmatar- dual tank and rep, fast speed. Mid range

Amarr are not dual tank

Amarr are heavy armor bricktank.

Really, I can't remember where but I read that they did dual, mostly armor, but they also kicked some shields in there.

Amarr are not dual tank

Amarr are heavy armor bricktank.

You underestimate my New Proto Amarr Assault, that does dual Tank.

Scum

I just want to add that while the Gallente and Minmatar are allies by choice the Amarr and Caldari are allies by default. The Caldari like the Amarr less than the Gallente do, and if they had the choice they would prefer the Minmatar because of their beliefs in tradition and rich natural resources.

Also, the Caldari are involved heavily economically with the Minmatar. It's mostly the Ishukone Corporation, though the Ishukone Corporation is involved with all the Empires, even at the political level with the Gallente. The Caldari are sneaky though. They have been selling weapons to both the Minmatar and Ammatar (Minmatar that chose to be part of the Amarr willingly and form a border between the Minmatar and Amarr). They do it because they are hoping that one side eventually wins and that hopefully the peace will finally let the Caldari have access to more of the Minmatar's natural resources.

I don't play eve (too complicated) but I wanna ask.

This is what I know.

Earth as we know it but thousands of years in the future. New technologies, we head out to space and explore, find a worm hole and we are I. New Eden. Hole collapses and colonies are shut off and perish.

Stuff happenes. 4 races emerge from corners of new Eden.

First to emerge were amarr I think then Gallente then caldari then minmatar

Then more stiff happen

amarr find Gallente and try to enslave but fail I believe (cuz Gallente kick @$$)

Gallente and caldari are the allies and stuff

Amarr find minmatar and enslave them for centuries.

Time passes.

Tension between Gallente and caldari break and we are enemies. Gallente also f**** caldari prime (cuz we kick @$$)

Amarr I think find jove and Jove humiliate amarr (cuz they also kick @$$)

Minmatar see that and make a huge rebellion and most find freedom (or few I think) this freedom mass drivers and hmg.

Gallente aid minmatar and we are now allies.

Caldari are amarr allies now? Yes.

Jove are neutral and just sleeping somewhere.

Currently, amarr want to fight them? They gonna lose cuz Jove kick @$$

Is this correct?

Amarr- armor heavy tankers, slow, medium to long range,

Caldari- shield tankers,medium speed, long range

Gallente- armor tank and rep, medium speed but also fast because in kincats or what ever they have in eve, cqc

Minmatar- dual tank and rep, fast speed. Mid range

Were is your source for this?

via news articles

Caldari could be loosely allied with all nations it just depends which megacorporation you roll with. One major resource minmatar do offer to the caldari state is engineers and technicians minmatar are much smarter than the gallente insultingly take them for (just that minmatar government structure is has been so poor it doesnt have the means to mount a proper front until fairly recently this is like trying to unsink the titanic while still on it and managing to succeed with duct tape and rust.) Overall there is generally two bad bloods with the gallente and caldari.

First being caldari prime. Caldari had it for millenniums until gallente pushed them off of it.

Second being that Caldari do not like the brand wholesale version of 'freedom' that Gallente is trying to shove down their throats. A similar strife issue cropping up now between the Minmatar Republic proper and the Gallente Federation.

The loyalties of the governments and subfactions of them is not so black and white. There are groups that like each other and groups in the same factions that will gut each other if given the change.

IE Black Eagles, Templis Dragonairs, ect ect.

The only groups you can be sure of their allegiances are would be the "pirate' factions, Serpentis, Guristas, Angel Cartel, Sansha Remnants, Sansha Nation, and Blood Raiders.

I don't play eve (too complicated) but I wanna ask.

This is what I know.

Earth as we know it but thousands of years in the future. New technologies, we head out to space and explore, find a worm hole and we are I. New Eden. Hole collapses and colonies are shut off and perish.

Stuff happenes. 4 races emerge from corners of new Eden.

First to emerge were amarr I think then Gallente then caldari then minmatar

Then more stiff happen

amarr find Gallente and try to enslave but fail I believe (cuz Gallente kick @$$)

Gallente and caldari are the allies and stuff

Amarr find minmatar and enslave them for centuries.

Time passes.

Tension between Gallente and caldari break and we are enemies. Gallente also f**** caldari prime (cuz we kick @$$)

Amarr I think find jove and Jove humiliate amarr (cuz they also kick @$$)

Minmatar see that and make a huge rebellion and most find freedom (or few I think) this freedom mass drivers and hmg.

Gallente aid minmatar and we are now allies.

Caldari are amarr allies now? Yes.

Jove are neutral and just sleeping somewhere.

Currently, amarr want to fight them? They gonna lose cuz Jove kick @$$

Is this correct?

Amarr- armor heavy tankers, slow, medium to long range,

Caldari- shield tankers,medium speed, long range

Gallente- armor tank and rep, medium speed but also fast because in kincats or what ever they have in eve, cqc

Minmatar- dual tank and rep, fast speed. Mid range

Couldn't be more wrong.

It however starts out moderately well. Humanity advances incredibly far down its technological pathways eventually sending colonists through a naturally occurring wormhole known as the EVE Gate and into a new far flung cluster which the colonists call New Eden. However all is not well as mankind spreads out among the stars and in time the EVE Gate collapses upon itself stranding the colonists and throwing them into a technological dark age.

Thousands of years eventually pass and as you said four distinct groups pull themselves from the wreckage to achieve a level of interstellar travel. The first arguably are the theocractic Amarr who have conquered their homeworld of Athra and looked to the stars in the homes of claiming them.

They are followed quickly by the Gallente who in turn discover and approach the Caldari in their home system of Luminaire as well as the thriving Minmatar Empire.

Where you go wrong is where you start talking about the Gallente and Amarr relations. The Amarr and Gallente have never really entered into meaningful hostilities as the Amarr in expanding form their homeworld began enslaving less developed entities using their superior technological prowess. Udorians, Ealur, Ni-Kunni, then the Minmatar.

After such a time the Amarr eventually encountered the Gallenteans who appeared to be more than a technological match rivalling the Empire in size. Rather than fight the Amarr and Gallente agreed to a tenuous peace.

More to come.

Oh. I honestly dont even know where I read it thought that, I just had that in mind and typed. But it's why I ask.

Seems ok except Minmatar are extremely close range that have to fight in falloff range unless they can close to point blank. They use constant speed. This is opposed to Gallente who fight at reasonably close range and move straight in with spurts of speed to attack and must be within optimal range with very little falloff range. Gal blaster turrets are high tracking whereas Min turrets are high damage.

Amarr are more about just moving straight in and tanking damage. So eventually they'd go CQ, but work well from afar as they clean up before they get to the enemy. Caldari stay back until the enemy is done.

The Gallente and Amarr also signed a rather comprehensive free trade agreement.

TBH I think there'd be more durable relations between them if not for the whole Minmatar slavery thing.

Actually as a result of trade agreements with the Gallente and in dealings with the SCC Free Markets Slavery has become and intergalactic industry instead of the carefully controlled and regulated religious precept the Amarr hold to.

Slavery in Amarr is illegal. However slavery outside of Amarrian spheres of authority is a thriving industry because we are unable to legally police it.

Amarrian capsuleers have recently been lobbying to make it illegal once more to sell slaves on the open markets in order to prevent the phenomenon known as 'deathcanning' and the massacres of slave by psychotic butchers with no respect for the institution.

So the Amarr can say that slavery is based on merit.

No.

Amarr see slavery as a religious aspect of their culture. On one hand it represents a single unified attempt to culturally indoctrinate a large population over time and across generational boundaries, on the other it represents an attempt by the Amarr to follow an obscure reference in Scripture which would suggest the Amarr have a divine right to rule.

From these two things a culture amongst the Amarrian nobility came to exist where in each noble family one is designated a 'Holder' with the right and responsibility of controlling and educating these slave groups. Normally this is a rigorously policed practice to ensure a Holder is both fulfilling their responsibilities and not abusing their power over these people. Speakers of Truth are akin to spies, judges, and executioners in Amarr space and have the last say on such matters.

In the end you must remember that in Amarr the only purpose of slavery is to eventually make those descendants of the originally taken Minmatar slaves full citizens of the Amarr Empire and practitioners of the Faith.

Remember 2 important changes in modern Amarrian policy. The first is that Slave taking is illegal in the modern Amarr. Secondly mistreatment of slaves no matter your rank in society can and most likely will be punished incredibly harshly.

That being said mistreatment is a pretty flexible term. Beatings can be earned for lack of discipline. Execution can be earned as well. However wrongly subjecting a slave to coarse treatment is abhorred.

Remember that amongst the Amarr there are as many views on slavery, interpretation of faith and scripture, etc as there are people.

E.G- I view it as necessary. With so many people conquered/taken strict rule and a firm hand had need be taken resulting in the current generational slave stocks the Amarr and Khanid have. In this modern era with the Amarr stepping back from the role of 'conquerors' and into a role more akin to 'peacemakers' slavery is no longer a preferable or necessary practice where peaceful conversion and cultural exchange would suffice.
However should the Amarr make a significant conquest once again then slavery might become necessary as a form of control.

like i said, slaves merited slavery based on their existence, and the Amarr because of victory and enlightenment merit being slave owners.

sort of like how the gaulente justify their NEO-FACIST government.

Currently... we dont know what the hell is happening with the Jove. The sleepers while jove like are not exactly jove themselves and their recent failed attempt of an invasion of Amarr system just proves that amarr tech has indeed improved their tech over the years with fighting both gallente and minmatar forces.