Lemme get this straight, you're pissed because you used a weapon that's good against armor, against shields. And, are upset it didn't work?

Much like I said in another thread where someone was complaining they couldn't get kills with their scrambler rifle because people could actually withstand the hits.

GOOD. If you aren't getting kills with your fit because the playing field has been leveled and lower tier suits don't die in two or three hits thanks to them being able to fit more and better mods, GOOD. You shouldn't be in here complaining you suddenly aren't getting all the kills you used to because 'those stupid noobs are stacking HP!' They're stacking HP because they kept getting one-shotted or killed without any time to react. And it's exactly because of what you said. 50 kills in a single game with only a single weapon. You don't see the problem there? That you basically, by yourself, wiped out nearly half of their clones? With one weapon?

That you can't do that nearly as easy now is a good sign, to me.

I won't be running an assault, laser, or scrambler rifle on a minmatar commando. The benefits of having shield and armor based weaponry equipped do not outweigh the synergy of racial light weapons being coupled with their corresponding commando bonus.

You guys can have fun with a game where armor hitting rifles are the only viable weapons.

I'd like to point out that armor is the last layer of defense, I'm not sure if you realize that. If you kill someone by taking out their shield then the mechanics of the game are seriously broken. The way this game is truly meant to be played is this: have one weapon (either main or sidearm or some type of grenade) that takes shield down, then have another that damages armor. Its just a matter of getting the combo that fits you well, not using the flavor of the month and then ***** when it gets balanced.

By all means, fine if you want to use those too op weapons to prove a point to CCP, but don't complain once your exploits have shown them what they need to do to balance them out.

Whatever

You guys can have fun with a game where armor hitting rifles are the only viable weapons.

I'm not complaining that I can't get 30 kills. I'm frustrated and sad that I can't manage a single one with a weapon that I've developed a lot of skill with to make DECENT where most players would never even give the weapon a chance.

It's one thing when an overpowered weapon is indirectly nerfed because something else was buffed. It's another when a weapon is made near useless from a point where it was mediocre at best before.

As a logi my primary goal is not kills anyways. Most matches the kills I get are simply defending a position or pushing back the enemy from their encampment of nanohives and cover. Generally the alpha damage kills players that don't react to it properly, or don't think I can hit them accurately.

The fact that this weapon takes 4-15 seconds to kill someone if you land every shot means the enemy usually has plenty of time to run away if they engage me first. There is no "instantly killing" someone with this weapon like you can burst down a mlt suit with an ACR in half a second. (i mean unless you can direct him them 2-3 times in a row...but that's still 2-3 full seconds and a **** ton of luck)

Breach assault rifle plus breach smg plus nades is the best combo in game.

Probably because he had a few bad matches. He is right that the new slot layout will change the dynamic of confronting skilled Caldari players, especially since the Caldari assault is the most used fit in the game.

I won't be running an assault, laser, or scrambler rifle on a minmatar commando. The benefits of having shield and armor based weaponry equipped do not outweigh the synergy of racial light weapons being coupled with their corresponding commando bonus.

The problem isn't how much damage your weapon does against shield, because its meant to protect against explosions (obvious enough right?)

The true problem is the ability to dual tank.

Suggestion: buff Shields regen and delays, add severe penalties to Caldari using armour (same vice versa for Amarr and gallente.) so that there is no point in running it with Armor plates, something like half effective HP double penalty to movement speed.

But since armour is superior to shield anyway, the shield buff would need to be great, like I said hp regen increase, depleted/standard delay decrease, leave HP the same and maybe make Caldari suits have a tiny bit faster movement speed?

I agree and I feel as though the people who dual tank aren't even utilizing the suits to their max ability, in a way they are being limited.

If CCP were smart, they would add the same penalty that they do in EVE for ships that dual tank: SUPER SLOW SPEEDS. It makes sense that if you are dual tanking, that you would have to be extremely slow, allowing easier picking off at a range, js.