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demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 517	Posted - 2015.06.29 03:49:00 - [1] - Quote Good afternoon Dust community, I am demens grimwulff, and I am posting my intent to run for CPM2. After a discussion with members of my corporation and those that I know, I have decided to take the dive to help the community, and the game that I have loved. First, let me introduce myself to those who do not know me, and what I have done in the game: - Character started in May of 2013 (had an account prior to this, but played only a little bit) - Was public relations director of A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S and dealt with all of the major corporations at that time - Was on ANON's 3rd place squad cup team - Member of Ancient Exiles during the Prof 5 war - Joined Immortal Guides to help train new players in the game after IRL took over - Joined HVLP for the 'Big Blue Doughnut', but left the game after major balancing problems made it not fun to play - I still played the game occasionally, as I never fell out of love with it, but I am back, now - I have been a PC FC for ANON, HVLP, and, now, NF, and I know the ins-and-outs of the game quite well - I have performed all roles in the game and I have played every suit, used every weapon, and I have tried to tank/ADS (albeit, unsuccessfully) across my 4 characters (I have 3 prototyping alts I use to test everything that is released/changed) - IRL, I was a math major in college (I am a numbers guy, and will help express all player ideas with numbers to back them to Rattati) - I work as a chemist in a laboratory and I am quite familiar with N.D.A.s, and industrial secrets/knowledge - Due to my job and my education, I bring a very analytical, structured approach to the game and the mechanics, analyzing all sides of the issue before approaching it for a fix - I have led a team of 30 individuals in a lab that performs over 100 jobs daily, and over 2000 individual tests, giving me the ability to take in a lot of different information, and come to accurate conclusions while still maintaining workflow Now, that I have gotten all of that out of the way, here is my platform: 1) I will work with CCP to bring better racial parity to the game; current suit bonuses do not seem to accurately reflect the suits play styles, and the weapons that are used on them. I want there to be a reason to run a suit with their race's weapon, not because it is overpowered, but because it offers a unique benefit to that weapon 2) I will work with CCP and the other CPM to help improve the game for the shield users, as it has been sorely overlooked for some time now 3) I will work on increasing the available options for players in the game, including providing the commando suit a real role in the game, but to help expand the assault class at the same time 4) I feel we need the Logi LAVs and Drop Ships back; I think the playstyle of vehicles can be greatly expanded if we offer strategic alternatives on the field 5) Tanks, right now, are even worse than dropships... there are only a small handful of effective builds, and even fewer worthwhile PC/competitive fittings. Tankers need more options. I don't want Tank 514 again, but what I do want is a more diverse selection of modules that actually provide a real reason to use them, and will bring back what was, once, a thriving community of tankers who actually discussed optimal builds. 6) The Lagstillation (Gallente Research Facility) will be GONE from ALL playlists until an actual, workable solution can be put into the game that does not cause massive frame rate loss 7) I will, as is typical for me, urge a cautious, but quick upgrade path that involves massive user feedback, and will, at all possible times, include as much direct/indirect feedback in my posts and discussions with CCP as possible to urge a user focused progression path to the game, one that those who are most familiar with the game itself have input in the very progression of it, and its future. 8) PS4. Period. Dust needs it to survive, and I will try my hardest to get us there. Those are the key points of my platform... of course, like anyone, I have opinions outside of those I have stated here. For any questions you may have, and want answered, please ask them. I humbly thank you for your time and consideration, and I wish that you keep me in mind for the upcoming CPM election. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 517	Posted - 2015.06.29 03:58:00 - [2] - Quote Also, if anyone would like to chat with me on mic, as I feel a lot of information is lost in text, my typical playing time is from 7pm to 11pm (CST \|\| 0100 to 0500 EVE) Monday through Friday, Sat/Sun I have off so I am randomly on through out the day, and I can be found in NF's public chat: Negative_Feedback . I will be available for squads, or to hold public conversation, as you see fit. Just send me a mail or poke at me in the chat, and I will respond as quickly as possible. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 5	Posted - 2015.06.29 04:24:00 - [3] - Quote You're running Aeon/Kain/Kirk/Zaria all still running? I know where my votes are going, wait how many get to be CPM ? Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro püépü¬püƒpü»tºüpü«pâèpââpâêpéÆsÉ+püäpü+püÖ
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 521	Posted - 2015.06.29 04:31:00 - [4] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: You're running Aeon/Kain/Kirk/Zaria all still running? I know where my votes are going, wait how many get to be CPM ? Sadly, Aeon Amadi had to back out of the race due to an issue that has occurred. After discussion amongst the corporation tonight, I had several people ask me if I would run... as well, I feel like I should give back to the community in some way. I have tried, in the past, to do various things with and for the community, but I feel like my abilities of team management, and number crunching can be put to use to help progress this game to one that will compete in the next generation of consoles, as well as offer a viable alternative to the mass of copy-paste shooters that are thrown out there every year. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
Pierced Daddy Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 37	Posted - 2015.06.29 04:31:00 - [5] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: You're running Aeon/Kain/Kirk/Zaria all still running? I know where my votes are going, wait how many get to be CPM ? Why can't you run Heimy? We need some class in our candidates.
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 5	Posted - 2015.06.29 04:47:00 - [6] - Quote Pierced Daddy wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: You're running Aeon/Kain/Kirk/Zaria all still running? I know where my votes are going, wait how many get to be CPM ? Why can't you run Heimy? We need some class in our candidates. I'd gladly run..except I don't do the whole I can't talk nonsense nor do I plan on spending my time on a game that idk what it's future is..at this point there's more negative than positive reasons to be CPM..I'm definitely the classiest person on the forums though, could be worse I could be "boring", but that'd be no fun Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro püépü¬püƒpü»tºüpü«pâèpââpâêpéÆsÉ+püäpü+püÖ
Pierced Daddy Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 40	Posted - 2015.06.29 05:33:00 - [7] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Pierced Daddy wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: You're running Aeon/Kain/Kirk/Zaria all still running? I know where my votes are going, wait how many get to be CPM ? Why can't you run Heimy? We need some class in our candidates. I'd gladly run..except I don't do the whole I can't talk nonsense nor do I plan on spending my time on a game that idk what it's future is..at this point there's more negative than positive reasons to be CPM..I'm definitely the classiest person on the forums though, could be worse I could be "boring", but that'd be no fun I don't know if they would approve of your alternative lifestyle. Ball gags, whips, Nipple Clamps , c0ckholds, pleasure beads might all be kind of intimidating to newbs. Stay classy and hands off zar. ;)
SLENDER M4N Xer Cloud Consortium 633	Posted - 2015.06.29 06:02:00 - [8] - Quote Dont forget to mention what you eat for breakfeast Our Lord and savior, Munson punched me and RE'd me! I feel loved <3
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 6	Posted - 2015.06.29 06:09:00 - [9] - Quote SLENDER M4N wrote: Dont forget to mention what you eat for breakfeast Okay Shooter McGavin, we already know. Dust 514 Market Trello. The essential resource for trading in Dust.
SLENDER M4N Xer Cloud Consortium 633	Posted - 2015.06.29 06:13:00 - [10] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: SLENDER M4N wrote: Dont forget to mention what you eat for breakfeast Okay Shooter McGavin, we already know. You know nothin' Jon Snow... Our Lord and savior, Munson punched me and RE'd me! I feel loved <3

LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy No Context 4	Posted - 2015.06.29 06:16:00 - [11] - Quote What kind of chemistry do you do? Like, what exactly are you looking for? I potentially want to get into that field. Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons I am the Anti-FoTM
Pierced Daddy Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 42	Posted - 2015.06.29 06:30:00 - [12] - Quote If you become cpm can you promise to try to get a dancer pole in my merc quarters for jarra? Plus I want her to dance on it and I can make it rain.
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 525	Posted - 2015.06.29 12:45:00 - [13] - Quote SLENDER M4N wrote: Dont forget to mention what you eat for breakfeast Monster Energy Absolutely Zero + Cliff Bar ;) As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 525	Posted - 2015.06.29 12:50:00 - [14] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: What kind of chemistry do you do? Like, what exactly are you looking for? I potentially want to get into that field. I am a petroleum chemist, except I work with the following equipment: Gas Chromatography, High Performance Liquid Chromatography, ICP-OES, ICP-MS, and combustion IC. My specialty was metals analysis, but I was real good at GC, too, so they put me in charge of both. GCS generally look for benzene, oxygen containing compounds (wt%), aromatics, and ppm lvl oxygen compounds ICP-OES looks for ppm level metals ICP-MS looks for ppt and ppb level metals Combustion IC looks for ppm level fluorides, chlorides, bromides, and nitrides As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 525	Posted - 2015.06.29 14:18:00 - [15] - Quote Pierced Daddy wrote: If you become cpm can you promise to try to get a dancer pole in my merc quarters for jarra? Plus I want her to dance on it and I can make it rain. I played FFXIV for a while and I really liked the quarters you could design in that game... similar to this game, they were private (but could be made public) and could be decorated any way you wanted too... even including items from bosses you conquered. If moved to PS4, I would see about bringing something similar to this to the merc quarters... maybe with wall hangers that you could get, as a rare drop (1 per PC to a random on the winning team; can be traded), of the corp you beat with the banner all torn up and muddy. As far as your request... we will see, lol, but I have a feeling the family atmosphere might override your request. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.06.29 14:21:00 - [16] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: - Joined Immortal Guides to help train new players in the game after IRL took over I knew your name seemed familiar! Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Victor Knyce Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2015.06.29 14:45:00 - [17] - Quote I have played around with hplc, fplc, and a little gc, sadly we didn't have a mass spec here for Mr to get familiar with. Though I am much more familiar with electrophoresis and various other assays and pcr reactions that have to do with biochemical interactions
Victor Knyce Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2015.06.29 14:50:00 - [18] - Quote By the way you have my vote
Her Chosen Grade No.2 335	Posted - 2015.06.29 14:57:00 - [19] - Quote Sorry, but you flat out told me multiple times that you are just burning assets and not caring until the game dies... That dark cloud Latest Upload
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 526	Posted - 2015.06.29 15:33:00 - [20] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: demens grimwulff wrote: - Joined Immortal Guides to help train new players in the game after IRL took over I knew your name seemed familiar! Actually I think it is telling that when he no longer had time for the end game, he joined a new player training Corp as an Instructor. He has a lot of relevant real life experience as well. Probably one of the most promising campaign posts I have read by a new candidate (someone who did not run for CPM1). Thank you Fox. That is much appreciated. I wish I had more time to spend with you guys, as I really enjoy helping new people... this game has so much going on that it can be overwhelming for most, and I want to see everyone gain in potential. If you are ever interested in splitting up 2 8 man teams, NF would be happy to split up 8 of our own, and get in a practice PC session to train your guys on skirm tactics. I will personally even flip the bill. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end

Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 239	Posted - 2015.06.29 15:35:00 - [21] - Quote What exactly made you change your mind? 3 months ago i couldn't even make you look Dust's way, now Anon has you hooked, lol. -SoTa PoP
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 526	Posted - 2015.06.29 15:40:00 - [22] - Quote Her Chosen wrote: Sorry, but you flat out told me multiple times that you are just burning assets and not caring until the game dies... This weekend? I will be honest, I did say that. A lot of the stuff going on behind the scenes was getting... frustrating. Not to get too personal with this post, but I had a couple of choices I needed to make, but sadly, by Sunday, regardless of my decisions, it made no difference. After discussing everything in depth with Illuminati, Silly Rabbit, and Kain Sunday morning, I changed my mind. Besides, my assets would have lasted quite a bit longer than I was letting on considering how infrequently I really run proto. To be honest, my decision is to stay. I tried other games during the week, and nothing brings the same feels that this game does... or, for that matter, the community. There is one game I will play come November, but if I get CPM, on my word as a southerner, I will still dedicate a majority of my time to work for this community and to help change this game for the better. I promise that. I hope this explanation has changed your mind on that, but I would understand if it doesnt. Besides... I could never leave this game, I love it way to much. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 526	Posted - 2015.06.29 15:44:00 - [23] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: What exactly made you change your mind? 3 months ago i couldn't even make you look Dust's way, now Anon has you hooked, lol. -SoTa PoP My friends... it wasn't just you who I came back for. Illuminati, you, Heim, Machine Guns (despite not seeing him much), Amadi, noobcaveman, Jolly Roger... everyone came back. To say that it was a single person that changed my mind would be a lie... and once I got on and saw all of the changes, I knew I couldn't leave again, at least not at this stage. The game has changed so much and has moved in a good direction... albeit, as a slightly less jaded vet than what I was when I came back, still not perfect. I want to put my time and effort in to improve that experience for everyone else. Also, 4 months ago I had something that I no longer have... so my time is much more open. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
Pierced Daddy Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 49	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:10:00 - [24] - Quote Kain Spero for Cpm2
J0LLY R0G3R Negative-Feedback. 3	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:11:00 - [25] - Quote Hey hey the 2nd person I'm willing to put on my list. XD Ps you have an extra 'e' in one of those names. The brit will sip upon his tea and call u a twit if Ya don't watch out. XD TheYoutube XD
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 528	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:12:00 - [26] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Hey hey the 2nd person I'm willing to put on my list. XD Ps you have an extra 'e' in one of those names. The brit will sip upon his tea and call u a twit if Ya don't watch out. Noob can take it and enjoy the proper spelling of his name. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
Pierced Daddy Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 49	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:13:00 - [27] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: What exactly made you change your mind? 3 months ago i couldn't even make you look Dust's way, now Anon has you hooked, lol. -SoTa PoP Also, 4 months ago I had something that I no longer have... so my time is much more open. Is this Jeopardy? What is a family? What is a wife or husband? What is your manhood? What is a job? All the above?
Dust User Horizons' Edge No Context 2	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:17:00 - [28] - Quote I heard NF members like to scam people on alts. A vote for you is a vote for dishonesty and I am far too honorable for that nonsense.
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 528	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:20:00 - [29] - Quote Dust User wrote: I heard NF members like to scam people on alts. A vote for you is a vote for dishonesty and I am far too honorable for that nonsense. I do not do any of this, and get quite vocal with the members when I hear of this. If someone is scammed by an NF member, please let me know, but to lump all of us together shows how little you know us, as a group. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 528	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:23:00 - [30] - Quote Pierced Daddy wrote: Is this Jeopardy? What is a family? What is a wife or husband? What is your manhood? What is a job? All the above? If you must know, and I take it by your sarcasm that you want to, I was moving my grandmother into an old folks home and was helping with the efforts to clean up her house. Dementia weighs heavily on the family and I was there when they needed me. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end

Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 240	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:25:00 - [31] - Quote Dust User wrote: I heard NF members like to scam people on alts. A vote for you is a vote for dishonesty and I am far too honorable for that nonsense. Unless you're willing to give up the NF member names refrain from lying on the forums. Thanks.
Loving UNCLE Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:30:00 - [32] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: Pierced Daddy wrote: Is this Jeopardy? What is a family? What is a wife or husband? What is your manhood? What is a job? All the above? If you must know, and I take it by your sarcasm that you want to, I was moving my grandmother into an old folks home and was helping with the efforts to clean up her house. Dementia weighs heavily on the family and I was there when they needed me. Omg you are an angel. That reminds me of the time I was in Ethiopia on a humatarium mission feeding the starving children. My grandmother passed away from years of battling alzheimers while I was gone.
Pierced Daddy Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 49	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:33:00 - [33] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Dust User wrote: I heard NF members like to scam people on alts. A vote for you is a vote for dishonesty and I am far too honorable for that nonsense. Unless you're willing to give up the NF member names refrain from lying on the forums. Thanks. Names will be posted as you requested. But now it will turn into a he said she said scenario. But you all know it's true. Grimwulff already confirmed it's true by saying he gets quite vocal about it. I will name drop. Gimmie a bit
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 240	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:40:00 - [34] - Quote Pierced Daddy wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Dust User wrote: I heard NF members like to scam people on alts. A vote for you is a vote for dishonesty and I am far too honorable for that nonsense. Unless you're willing to give up the NF member names refrain from lying on the forums. Thanks. Names will be posted as you requested. But now it will turn into a he said she said scenario. But you all know it's true. Grimwulff already confirmed it's true by saying he gets quite vocal about it. I will name drop. Gimmie a bit There's a single member whose known for scamming and anyone dealing with him is warned, and that's about it. That is the situation Grim refers too, screwing people over is something we do on the battlefield, not out. If you scam with NF tag it usually leads to trouble for you, as it brings trouble for us. But in this one members regard we don't remove him, but we do put his name on all markets at 'be warned will scam' We may handle things like business but we're still a group of friends, we don't abandon friends, especially ones whose been with us for years and just can't be bothered to take the game as seriously as the rest of us do. If by chance you do have a list of NFers scamming you pass the names here and it'll get a look-through. We are definitely against such things.
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 530	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:46:00 - [35] - Quote Loving UNCLE wrote: Omg you are an angel. That reminds me of the time I was in Ethiopia on a humatarium mission feeding the starving children. My grandmother passed away from years of battling alzheimers while I was gone. I lost my grandfather several years ago, and he had alzheimers pretty severly. Some of the stuff he said and would do was... not received well by my mother or the rest of the family. That was a rough time for all of us. My grandmother has several issues, one of which is a steadily advancing dementia... it has been a pretty hard thing for my family to deal with, and we finally got it resolved just last weekend. It took us 6 months of moving things in and out and into storage and back into her house and back out again. Yea... I can sympathize for anyone who is or was in a position with a similar family member. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
Pierced Daddy Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 52	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:46:00 - [36] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Pierced Daddy wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Dust User wrote: I heard NF members like to scam people on alts. A vote for you is a vote for dishonesty and I am far too honorable for that nonsense. Unless you're willing to give up the NF member names refrain from lying on the forums. Thanks. Names will be posted as you requested. But now it will turn into a he said she said scenario. But you all know it's true. Grimwulff already confirmed it's true by saying he gets quite vocal about it. I will name drop. Gimmie a bit There's a single member whose known for scamming and anyone dealing with him is warned, and that's about it. That is the situation Grim refers too, screwing people over is something we do on the battlefield, not out. If you scam with NF tag it usually leads to trouble for you, as it brings trouble for us. But in this one members regard we don't remove him, but we do put his name on all markets at 'be warned will scam' We may handle things like business but we're still a group of friends, we don't abandon friends, especially ones whose been with us for years and just can't be bothered to take the game as seriously as the rest of us do. If by chance you do have a list of NFers scamming you pass the names here and it'll get a look-through. We are definitely against such things. Nice defensive post, but you are Delusional if you think it is just one. You just called dust user a liar, but now it is partially true. Cute Like I said, I will supply more names shortly. All NF members were on alts but confirmed who they were.
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 530	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:51:00 - [37] - Quote Pierced Daddy wrote: Nice defensive post, but you are Delusional if you think it is just one. You just called dust user a liar, but now it is partially true. Cute Like I said, I will supply more names shortly. All NF members were on alts but confirmed who they were. Pierced, considering the topic and everything else, I am asking you nicely to move your concerns to another thread. I am not my corp, but I do try and fight against this stuff when I hear about it. Please let me know in game or in another post and I will do what I can to rectify the situation. I am an extremely honest person and I really do not like hearing about stuff like this. What I can say, is if someone has been scammed by one of my members, please come to me personally. It will be settled. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.06.29 16:53:00 - [38] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: Her Chosen wrote: Sorry, but you flat out told me multiple times that you are just burning assets and not caring until the game dies... This weekend? I will be honest, I did say that. A lot of the stuff going on behind the scenes was getting... frustrating. Not to get too personal with this post, but I had a couple of choices I needed to make, but sadly, by Sunday, regardless of my decisions, it made no difference. After discussing everything in depth with Illuminati, Silly Rabbit, and Kain Sunday morning, I changed my mind. Besides, my assets would have lasted quite a bit longer than I was letting on considering how infrequently I really run proto. And here we have evidence of demens grimwulff's experience with NDA. Note how he explains that he had choices to make and says who he talked to, but does not actually give any information, so those in the know will know what he is talking about, and those not in the know only know that something went down but still have no idea what. This is a candidate who will be able to calm our fears and assure us that positive things are happening behind the scenes without breaking NDA. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 240	Posted - 2015.06.29 17:05:00 - [39] - Quote Pierced Daddy wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Pierced Daddy wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Dust User wrote: I heard NF members like to scam people on alts. A vote for you is a vote for dishonesty and I am far too honorable for that nonsense. Unless you're willing to give up the NF member names refrain from lying on the forums. Thanks. Names will be posted as you requested. But now it will turn into a he said she said scenario. But you all know it's true. Grimwulff already confirmed it's true by saying he gets quite vocal about it. I will name drop. Gimmie a bit There's a single member whose known for scamming and anyone dealing with him is warned, and that's about it. That is the situation Grim refers too, screwing people over is something we do on the battlefield, not out. If you scam with NF tag it usually leads to trouble for you, as it brings trouble for us. But in this one members regard we don't remove him, but we do put his name on all markets at 'be warned will scam' We may handle things like business but we're still a group of friends, we don't abandon friends, especially ones whose been with us for years and just can't be bothered to take the game as seriously as the rest of us do. If by chance you do have a list of NFers scamming you pass the names here and it'll get a look-through. We are definitely against such things. Nice defensive post, but you are Delusional if you think it is just one. You just called dust user a liar, but now it is partially true. Cute Like I said, I will supply more names shortly. All NF members were on alts but confirmed who they were. He is lying, he doesn't even know which member I'm talking of as we don't make such things public just so people know. He's talking out of his ass, lol. But people should know NF is both a business and a family. Business comes first, but family is never ignored. Sometimes family does stupid **** that makes the rest of us smack our heads, but part of being with us is us working together through the problems. And sometimes the solution to that problem is black list our family member everywhere he goes and let people know he's not to be trusted while enjoying him ourselves :)
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.06.29 17:05:00 - [40] - Quote Loving UNCLE wrote: demens grimwulff wrote: Pierced Daddy wrote: Is this Jeopardy? What is a family? What is a wife or husband? What is your manhood? What is a job? All the above? If you must know, and I take it by your sarcasm that you want to, I was moving my grandmother into an old folks home and was helping with the efforts to clean up her house. Dementia weighs heavily on the family and I was there when they needed me. Omg you are an angel. That reminds me of the time I was in Ethiopia on a humatarium mission feeding the starving children. My grandmother passed away from years of battling alzheimers while I was gone. Is this a contest? I once let a homeless young man crash on my couch for two days because it was poring rain out. I did not even know him. I gave him a new pair of socks when he left. No one gets as excited over socks as the homeless! I once let a young women with a mental health issue crash on my couch for six months until she was able to get her life back together. I did not even hit on her. All I got out of it was having someone around to talk to. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.

Pierced Daddy Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 58	Posted - 2015.06.29 17:06:00 - [41] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: Pierced Daddy wrote: Nice defensive post, but you are Delusional if you think it is just one. You just called dust user a liar, but now it is partially true. Cute Like I said, I will supply more names shortly. All NF members were on alts but confirmed who they were. Pierced, considering the topic and everything else, I am asking you nicely to move your concerns to another thread. I am not my corp, but I do try and fight against this stuff when I hear about it. Please let me know in game or in another post and I will do what I can to rectify the situation. I am an extremely honest person and I really do not like hearing about stuff like this. What I can say, is if someone has been scammed by one of my members, please come to me personally. It will be settled. I will not publicly out them just yet as per your request. But I make one request of you.....look at that Kain Spero for Cpm2 post photo and tell me that isn't fitting.
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 541	Posted - 2015.06.29 17:08:00 - [42] - Quote Pierced Daddy wrote: I will not publicly out them just yet as per your request. But I make one request of you.....look at that Kain Spero for Cpm2 post photo and tell me that isn't fitting. I lol'ed very hard at it. Very nice. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
Pierced Daddy Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 58	Posted - 2015.06.29 17:08:00 - [43] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Loving UNCLE wrote: demens grimwulff wrote: Pierced Daddy wrote: Is this Jeopardy? What is a family? What is a wife or husband? What is your manhood? What is a job? All the above? If you must know, and I take it by your sarcasm that you want to, I was moving my grandmother into an old folks home and was helping with the efforts to clean up her house. Dementia weighs heavily on the family and I was there when they needed me. Omg you are an angel. That reminds me of the time I was in Ethiopia on a humatarium mission feeding the starving children. My grandmother passed away from years of battling alzheimers while I was gone. Is this a contest? I once let a homeless young man crash on my couch for two days because it was poring rain out. I did not even know him. I gave him a new pair of socks when he left. No one gets as excited over socks as the homeless! I once let a young women with a mental health issue crash on my couch for six months until she was able to get her life back together. I did not even hit on her. All I got out of it was having someone around to talk to. I so would have tapped that. One time I tried to give a homeless man my left overs from Ruths Chris and he had the nerve to ask for beer money instead. So I gave him 5bucks.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 11	Posted - 2015.06.29 17:12:00 - [44] - Quote Quote: I am a petroleum chemist, except I work with the following equipment: Gas Chromatography, High Performance Liquid Chromatography, ICP-OES, ICP-MS, and combustion IC. Quote: my word as a Southerner Texas or Louisiana? PS: Going to have to shift my list around to make room for you. o7 Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
SLENDER M4N Xer Cloud Consortium 638	Posted - 2015.06.29 17:13:00 - [45] - Quote Thats not what you eat for breakfeast!!! I'll send you a reminder once I get on later Our Lord and savior, Munson punched me and RE'd me! I feel loved <3
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 541	Posted - 2015.06.29 17:14:00 - [46] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Quote: I am a petroleum chemist, except I work with the following equipment: Gas Chromatography, High Performance Liquid Chromatography, ICP-OES, ICP-MS, and combustion IC. Quote: my word as a Southerner Texas or Louisiana? PS: Going to have to shift my list around to make room for you. o7 Texas, born and raised (did a 1 year stint in Oklahoma, but I will deny it). Thank you sir, I am honored. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2	Posted - 2015.06.29 17:37:00 - [47] - Quote sipa tea You twit. I want to be a caveman! psn: marko_blues Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Officially team salmon #majestic leaps
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 543	Posted - 2015.06.29 17:55:00 - [48] - Quote noob cavman wrote: sips tea You twit. <3 you noob. Need to play more with your old fam. We miss you. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
Dust User Horizons' Edge No Context 2	Posted - 2015.06.30 00:04:00 - [49] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Dust User wrote: I heard NF members like to scam people on alts. A vote for you is a vote for dishonesty and I am far too honorable for that nonsense. Unless you're willing to give up the NF member names refrain from lying on the forums. Thanks. Coochmaster Flex Extremely Hung ANON Illuminati You have pulled the wool over this community's eyes for long enough. NF is not to be trusted, you have been warned.
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 556	Posted - 2015.06.30 00:06:00 - [50] - Quote Dust User wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Dust User wrote: I heard NF members like to scam people on alts. A vote for you is a vote for dishonesty and I am far too honorable for that nonsense. Unless you're willing to give up the NF member names refrain from lying on the forums. Thanks. Coochmaster Flex Extremely Hung ANON Illuminati You have pulled the wool over this community's eyes for long enough. NF is not to be trusted, you have been warned. ANON Illuminati? Last I checked, he had a stellar reputation on ALL trading channels. I will talk to them. ETA: Cooch has completely quit this game for another one... when was this "scamming", and can you prove it was them? I just want to make sure I have proof. Who did they scam and for how much? CPM2 Candidate Intent to run is found here: Intent Allow me to help improve Dust

MassiveNine Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 909	Posted - 2015.06.30 21:40:00 - [51] - Quote You have my vote demens. Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 570	Posted - 2015.06.30 21:43:00 - [52] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: You have my vote demens. Thank you Massive, but please refrain from using my intent thread from mud slinging. CPM2 Candidate Intent to run is found here: Intent Allow me to help improve Dust
MassiveNine Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 909	Posted - 2015.06.30 21:45:00 - [53] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: MassiveNine wrote: You have my vote demens. Thank you Massive, but please refrain from using my intent thread from mud slinging. Edited. Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 570	Posted - 2015.06.30 21:48:00 - [54] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: demens grimwulff wrote: MassiveNine wrote: You have my vote demens. Thank you Massive, but please refrain from using my intent thread from mud slinging. Edited. Thank you bro :) Will you be on tonight? Leaving work in 15... should be home in... 40ish CPM2 Candidate Intent to run is found here: Intent Allow me to help improve Dust
MassiveNine Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 909	Posted - 2015.06.30 21:51:00 - [55] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: MassiveNine wrote: demens grimwulff wrote: MassiveNine wrote: You have my vote demens. Thank you Massive, but please refrain from using my intent thread from mud slinging. Edited. Thank you bro :) Will you be on tonight? Leaving work in 15... should be home in... 40ish Yea but I don't know what time. I'm tubing the river after work. Still at work for another 2 hours too. so like, 5 hours maybe? Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.07.02 18:19:00 - [56] - Quote Got my +1! Oh, I'm still running btw ^_- Those issues have been resolved. Some people ask us, "Where do you call home?" And we say, "Home is where the bullets fly. Where the shells land."
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 579	Posted - 2015.07.02 18:39:00 - [57] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Got my +1! Oh, I'm still running btw ^_- Those issues have been resolved. Thank you bro, much appreciated. Glad to see you're back and able to continue... your love for this game is evident any time someone talks to you about it. CPM2 Candidate Intent to run is found here: Intent Allow me to help improve Dust
Slim Winning Grade No.2 145	Posted - 2015.07.03 03:44:00 - [58] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: Her Chosen wrote: Sorry, but you flat out told me multiple times that you are just burning assets and not caring until the game dies... This weekend? I will be honest, I did say that. A lot of the stuff going on behind the scenes was getting... frustrating. Not to get too personal with this post, but I had a couple of choices I needed to make, but sadly, by Sunday, regardless of my decisions, it made no difference. After discussing everything in depth with Illuminati, Silly Rabbit, and Kain Sunday morning, I changed my mind. Besides, my assets would have lasted quite a bit longer than I was letting on considering how infrequently I really run proto. To be honest, my decision is to stay. I tried other games during the week, and nothing brings the same feels that this game does... or, for that matter, the community. There is one game I will play come November, but if I get CPM, on my word as a southerner, I will still dedicate a majority of my time to work for this community and to help change this game for the better. I promise that. I hope this explanation has changed your mind on that, but I would understand if it doesnt. Besides... I could never leave this game, I love it way to much. ETA: also, I would like to add, this time of year is really bad for me... so I have had a lot on my mind for the last week. If you would like to discuss it in game, I will be happy too, but I don't wish to discuss it publicly. So why wouldn't you change your mind back again? CPMs seem to have a habit of disappearing as of late... And you hanging out with a guy that constantly tries to eF*ck teenage girls on facebook, and a corrupt CPM that molded PC to his personal benefit doesn't make you appealing in my eyes... Sorry, but DUST needs a hard-nosed CPM right now. Not just a fanboy that comes and goes. I made my living as a professional fighter, opened a gym, and trained dozens... First thing I told them' just because you're a fan of the sport doesn't mean you belong playing it.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.07.03 07:29:00 - [59] - Quote Cool. Nice to see someone announce their intent to run. When will you make your announcement if you are running or not? Official CPM Platform
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 583	Posted - 2015.07.03 16:01:00 - [60] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: Cool. Nice to see someone announce their intent to run. When will you make your announcement if you are running or not? Once the applications are available. CPM2 Candidate Intent to run is found here: Intent Allow me to help improve Dust

KILLER 20965 Negative-Feedback. 51	Posted - 2015.07.15 13:03:00 - [61] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: 5) Tanks, right now, are even worse than dropships... there are only a small handful of effective builds, and even fewer worthwhile PC/competitive fittings. Tankers need more options. I don't want Tank 514 again, but what I do want is a more diverse selection of modules that actually provide a real reason to use them, and will bring back what was, once, a thriving community of tankers who actually discussed optimal builds.. I want officer to be the old closed beta black op tanks WITH ALL of the old mods.....now..... TANKS MUST REIGN SUPREME ONCE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I once personally owned a district. Yes I run logi, got a problem? I want an officer armour tank.
501st Headstrong 0uter.Heaven 1	Posted - 2015.07.19 23:57:00 - [62] - Quote I'm very impressed with your platform, as well as how you stated the PS4 section of it; made me smile. 07 to you, and I hope you are feeling better after the issues plaguing you "There are no rights. The world owes no one a living."-Sumner *The Mascot of 0uter.Heaven * Internet down atm :(
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 684	Posted - 2015.07.20 00:02:00 - [63] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: I'm very impressed with your platform, as well as how you stated the PS4 section of it; made me smile. 07 to you, and I hope you are feeling better after the issues plaguing you Thank you 50, that is much appreciated. Glad to know that my platform resonates with people :) Yes, it is, but there are some things in life that you have a very limited amount of, and once it is gone, you can never get it back. Just happy for the time, more than anything. CPM2 Candidate Intent to run is found here: Intent Allow me to help improve Dust
sir RAVEN WING No Context 4	Posted - 2015.07.20 00:50:00 - [64] - Quote Are candidates allowed to vote for other candidates? If so, you have my vote. Currently Playing: Dark Souls II. Class: Warrior Location: Forest of Fallen Giants.
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 685	Posted - 2015.07.20 01:32:00 - [65] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Are candidates allowed to vote for other candidates? If so, you have my vote. You should be... we have 7 votes each. Thank you very much. CPM2 Candidate Intent to run is found here: Intent Allow me to help improve Dust
Europa Antares Horizons' Edge 8	Posted - 2015.07.20 05:34:00 - [66] - Quote I really don't care about corporation loyalty and such, but I really cannot vote for you. You seem like a great candidate but you are backed by a very influential corporation in the DUST universe. Your corp members are likely to vote for you not because of your views but because you're simply in the same corp. That averages around 500 free votes for you. Not to mention, because of you're influential corp I feel that they would have even MORE influence due to them having a CPM. We can't have one corp oppressing everyone in the game. I apologize but you will not receive my vote. Who's Thale? How does he keep killing me???
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2	Posted - 2015.07.20 11:26:00 - [67] - Quote Europa Antares wrote: I really don't care about corporation loyalty and such, but I really cannot vote for you. You seem like a great candidate but you are backed by a very influential corporation in the DUST universe. Your corp members are likely to vote for you not because of your views but because you're simply in the same corp. That averages around 500 free votes for you. Not to mention, because of you're influential corp I feel that they would have even MORE influence due to them having a CPM. We can't have one corp oppressing everyone in the game. I apologize but you will not receive my vote. Ignore this drunk brit cannot read nor use basic brain functions. As in me not eurpa. I want to be a caveman! psn: marko_blues Kringlaugd wierd, ein spadi for qvoki ne skeifr drpr munni ne svinhqfdi.
Starlight Burner Vader's-Fist 390	Posted - 2015.08.01 10:58:00 - [68] - Quote Had my vote up till I saw the direct only stance to PS4 only. Why PS4 only for future DUST? CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 693	Posted - 2015.08.01 14:17:00 - [69] - Quote Starlight Burner wrote: Had my vote up till I saw the direct only stance to PS4 only. Why PS4 only for future DUST? Couple of reasons: 1) Sony and CCP have a standing relationship, which can be beneficial to both of CCP and us, the players 2) current gen consoles have a lower cost of entry than a comparable computer that could run Dust at the same resolution, quality settings, and frame rate 3) Initially, Dust was going to be on Xbox, but Microsoft wanted a % of everything... this would, in a long run, be extremely harmful to any future growth past this next move 4) PS4 and computers are not mutually exclusive; on games like FF14, PS4, PS3, and PC players inhabit the same world at the same time I understand the desire to have Dust on a computer, but the market for FPS is much larger on a console; I feel it would be a waste if it was just on PC... the community would almost instantly shrink, versus grow on the PS4. As I stated on Biomassed, if PC was the platform, I would still play it... but I think PS4 would be the best path of opportunity for the game. Sorry if that one disagreement turns you off, but that is the conclusion that I have come too. CPM2 Candidate Intent to run is found here: Intent Allow me to help improve Dust
Dust User Horizons' Edge No Context 2	Posted - 2015.08.01 14:53:00 - [70] - Quote The only thing these pubstar candidates really care about is their weekly kdr. Don't let their fancy wall of text fool you. If you want true honorable representation vote Dust User.

Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.01 15:05:00 - [71] - Quote Dust User wrote: The only thing these pubstar candidates really care about is their weekly kdr. Don't let their fancy wall of text fool you. If you want true honorable representation vote Dust User. And what makes you honorable apart from your own hubris..? Aeon Amadi for CPM 2 Design A SKIN 2
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 628	Posted - 2015.08.01 15:09:00 - [72] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Dust User wrote: The only thing these pubstar candidates really care about is their weekly kdr. Don't let their fancy wall of text fool you. If you want true honorable representation vote Dust User. And what makes you honorable apart from your own hubris..? He once killed a heavy with a nano-hives in a 1v1 in PC. He once switched to his side arm - and it actually worked. He once used a booster on an LAV - and didn't fall through the ground. He may not be a good CPM, but he is - the most interesting man in dust.
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.01 15:13:00 - [73] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: Starlight Burner wrote: Had my vote up till I saw the direct only stance to PS4 only. Why PS4 only for future DUST? Couple of reasons: 1) Sony and CCP have a standing relationship, which can be beneficial to both of CCP and us, the players 2) current gen consoles have a lower cost of entry than a comparable computer that could run Dust at the same resolution, quality settings, and frame rate 3) Initially, Dust was going to be on Xbox, but Microsoft wanted a % of everything... this would, in a long run, be extremely harmful to any future growth past this next move 4) PS4 and computers are not mutually exclusive; on games like FF14, PS4, PS3, and PC players inhabit the same world at the same time I understand the desire to have Dust on a computer, but the market for FPS is much larger on a console; I feel it would be a waste if it was just on PC... the community would almost instantly shrink, versus grow on the PS4. As I stated on Biomassed, if PC was the platform, I would still play it... but I think PS4 would be the best path of opportunity for the game. Sorry if that one disagreement turns you off, but that is the conclusion that I have come too. I'd contest that the best path would be PC due to the fact that CCP wouldn't have to run everything through Sony as they currently do. As it is, CCP could release an update and we'd not see it for two weeks after the fact because of Sony's own QA and that led to a couple of issues in the past. None more recognizable than the "Ninja Nerfing" (which people still tin foil over) in which CCP would put something in an update and completely forget about it in the dev blogs they'd write covering the update. General premise is that if Dust 514 (or whatever) were published -by- CCP (which they could only possibly do on the PC) they'd have a lot more freedom to do what they want with their own product. They'd also be netting the profits off of it, rather than having to share the revenue with Sony. Overall, from a financial and creative license stand-point, I think the benefits are overshadowing to trying to appeal to a userbase that is largely flippant in their interests. Console players will follow the advertisements and being that CCP has little to no advertising going on for Dust 514, I don't think we can afford another blow in which Sony hides it away behind some cryptic menu option in the Playstation Store (when they changed up the "Free-to-Play" menu to something else). To sum it up, I feel that Sony plays way too big a hand in the potential success of Dust 514 and they play way too passive a role in it's success - essentially sitting back and collecting a paycheck. This isn't even touching on the issues EU players have with bundle sales like the Mercenary Pack debacle where they wound up having to wait weeks just to experience the sales that many American players already had access to. Aeon Amadi for CPM 2 Design A SKIN 2
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 628	Posted - 2015.08.01 15:16:00 - [74] - Quote To those who believe PC the best option - How did you end up here in the first place? This is a console community, why would we want change that? It's absurd, and selfish.
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.01 15:32:00 - [75] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: To those who believe PC the best option - How did you end up here in the first place? This is a console community, why would we want change that? It's absurd, and selfish. Interesting argument... if a bit ad hominem-y.... First of all, it can be argued that keeping it on console is also absurd and selfish as well. There are good arguments and reasonings for both sides of the fence but saying that it should -NOT- go to one or the other because of where it currently is redundant and foolish. It solves nothing because it doesn't address the core problems of either. It's an appeal to emotion or nature if anything. But if you must know I came over to Dust 514 on the PS3 because I had no other choice. I've been playing Eve Online since 2006 and I wanted to be a part of this side of New Eden - CCP didn't give the option to play on the PC so I went out and bought a PS3 to play it. This has nothing to do with where I think it should be ported, however, because I'd argue that if I went out of my way to buy a PS3 to play it I'd buy a PS4 to play it as well. My views come from the foresight to see that being on the PS4 will have it's own problems and I feel that those problems are in a more negative light than if the game were ported to the PC. Simple as that. PS4 might be a better short-term option, given that it doesn't have many games to choose from by comparison to PC and it is a more affordable cost margin for players, but in the long term I think PC would be the best bet. Aeon Amadi for CPM 2 Design A SKIN 2
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 628	Posted - 2015.08.01 15:35:00 - [76] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: To those who believe PC the best option - How did you end up here in the first place? This is a console community, why would we want change that? It's absurd, and selfish. Interesting argument... if a bit ad hominem-y.... First of all, it can be argued that keeping it on console is also absurd and selfish as well. There are good arguments and reasonings for both sides of the fence but saying that it should -NOT- go to one or the other because of where it currently is redundant and foolish. It solves nothing because it doesn't address the core problems of either. It's an appeal to emotion or nature if anything. But if you must know I came over to Dust 514 on the PS3 because I had no other choice. I've been playing Eve Online since 2006 and I wanted to be a part of this side of New Eden - CCP didn't give the option to play on the PC so I went out and bought a PS3 to play it. This has nothing to do with where I think it should be ported, however, because I'd argue that if I went out of my way to buy a PS3 to play it I'd buy a PS4 to play it as well. My views come from the foresight to see that being on the PS4 will have it's own problems and I feel that those problems are in a more negative light than if the game were ported to the PC. Simple as that. PS4 might be a better short-term option, given that it doesn't have many games to choose from by comparison to PC and it is a more affordable cost margin for players, but in the long term I think PC would be the best bet. There is no argument needed here, this is what we are here for, a console MMOFPSRTS game, on the PC it's not even special, and you'll be competing with other titles - that's what made this title on console special. the argument of performance of test servers is irrelevant, PS4 can handle the performance, and this game was designed on PC to begin with and is scripted using PC then ported to console - they don't need a test server, they just need to keep there promises with hot fixes, which has been full of ninja nerfs rather then fixes. The coding is very similar, so the port after PC tests should suffice for a good portion of foreseeable issues.
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.01 16:39:00 - [77] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: There is no argument needed here, this is what we are here for, a console MMOFPSRTS game, on the PC it's not even special, and you'll be competing with other titles - that's what made this title on console special. the argument AND performance of test servers is irrelevant, PS4 can handle the performance, and this game was designed on PC to begin with and is scripted using PC then ported to console - they don't need a test server, they just need to keep there promises with hot fixes, which has been full of ninja nerfs rather then fixes. The coding is very similar, so the port after PC tests should suffice for a good portion of foreseeable issues. If this game belongs on PC they should of put it there to begin with instead of making promises to consoles they don't plan on keeping. Any argument against this fact can go ** itself, and you'll be borderline entering my hate list. You'd be competing with other titles on the PS4 too.. That argument isn't exclusive to the PC... Battlefield, Call of Duty, Planetside 2, Black Light Retribution - if it's a title on the PC it's probably a title on the PS4 as well... And I have no idea where test servers and performance came into this mix? Like, it was never mentioned in my posts. Ever. I'm starting to think you're arguing to argue and not actually reading any of the arguments being presented because you're now arguing information that wasn't even up for debate to begin with. Also, what ninja nerfs..? And again, saying that "they should have put it there to begin with" is an appeal to the game's origins, which obviously have not worked. Just because it started on a console doesn't mean it should stay there and that line gets really really fuzzy whenever you start using the same argument in other applications: It's a game based in New Eden, which started on PC - it should stay there. It's a game that started on the PS3, it should stay there. And the whole "making promises to console they don't plan on keeping" is total bupkis. It isn't that they didn't plan to keep them it's that they simply -could not keep them-. The game doesn't run smoothly with the content it has, how can you honestly expect them to put -more- content in when what we have is already problematic..? "Any argument against this fact can go ** itself, and you'll be borderline entering my hate list" So, what you're saying is that it isn't a debate, or an argument, it's a rant. Got'cha. I'll stop responding then and let you continue on in your own little world. Could spend my time doing better things. Aeon Amadi for CPM 2 Design A SKIN 2
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 630	Posted - 2015.08.01 16:45:00 - [78] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: There is no argument needed here, this is what we are here for, a console MMOFPSRTS game, on the PC it's not even special, and you'll be competing with other titles - that's what made this title on console special. the argument AND performance of test servers is irrelevant, PS4 can handle the performance, and this game was designed on PC to begin with and is scripted using PC then ported to console - they don't need a test server, they just need to keep there promises with hot fixes, which has been full of ninja nerfs rather then fixes. The coding is very similar, so the port after PC tests should suffice for a good portion of foreseeable issues. If this game belongs on PC they should of put it there to begin with instead of making promises to consoles they don't plan on keeping. Any argument against this fact can go ** itself, and you'll be borderline entering my hate list. You'd be competing with other titles on the PS4 too.. That argument isn't exclusive to the PC... Battlefield, Call of Duty, Planetside 2, Black Light Retribution - if it's a title on the PC it's probably a title on the PS4 as well... And I have no idea where test servers and performance came into this mix? Like, it was never mentioned in my posts. Ever. I'm starting to think you're arguing to argue and not actually reading any of the arguments being presented because you're now arguing information that wasn't even up for debate to begin with. Also, what ninja nerfs..? And again, saying that "they should have put it there to begin with" is an appeal to the game's origins, which obviously have not worked. Just because it started on a console doesn't mean it should stay there and that line gets really really fuzzy whenever you start using the same argument in other applications: It's a game based in New Eden, which started on PC - it should stay there. It's a game that started on the PS3, it should stay there. And the whole "making promises to console they don't plan on keeping" is total bupkis. It isn't that they didn't plan to keep them it's that they simply -could not keep them-. The game doesn't run smoothly with the content it has, how can you honestly expect them to put -more- content in when what we have is already problematic..? "Any argument against this fact can go ** itself, and you'll be borderline entering my hate list" So, what you're saying is that it isn't a debate, or an argument, it's a rant. Got'cha. I'll stop responding then and let you continue on in your own little world. Could spend my time doing better things. Aeon, you seem to be missing one important piece of information. YOU'RE TALKING TO A ***** CONSOLE COMMUNITY ABOUT GETTING RID OF THERE CONSOLE GAME TO PORT IT TO PC, OR TELLING THEM TO OFF AND WAIT BECAUSE PC MASTER RACE. You find that acceptable? Then yes, read my as a rant, because there's no arguing the fact we've been ** with, and you support it. And ninja nerfs include changing the commando's CPU without changing the PG to make the suit make damn sense. And this games 'origins' has been the only reason you have a shot at CPM instead of going back to EvE because Dust was killed off by a community already tired of CCP through EvE. You seem to think CCP has an enthralling reputation - they don't. Most people consider them a lying sack of ** company who wants your money. And you're helping them solidify that image.
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 694	Posted - 2015.08.01 17:44:00 - [79] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: You'd be competing with other titles on the PS4 too.. That argument isn't exclusive to the PC... Battlefield, Call of Duty, Planetside 2, Black Light Retribution - if it's a title on the PC it's probably a title on the PS4 as well... And I have no idea where test servers and performance came into this mix? Like, it was never mentioned in my posts. Ever. I'm starting to think you're arguing to argue and not actually reading any of the arguments being presented because you're now arguing information that wasn't even up for debate to begin with. Also, what ninja nerfs..? And again, saying that "they should have put it there to begin with" is an appeal to the game's origins, which obviously have not worked. Just because it started on a console doesn't mean it should stay there and that line gets really really fuzzy whenever you start using the same argument in other applications: It's a game based in New Eden, which started on PC - it should stay there. It's a game that started on the PS3, it should stay there. And the whole "making promises to console they don't plan on keeping" is total bupkis. It isn't that they didn't plan to keep them it's that they simply -could not keep them-. The game doesn't run smoothly with the content it has, how can you honestly expect them to put -more- content in when what we have is already problematic..? "Any argument against this fact can go itself, and you'll be borderline entering my hate list" So, what you're saying is that it isn't a debate, or an argument, it's a rant. Got'cha. I'll stop responding then and let you continue on in your own little world. Could spend my time doing better things. Aeon, you seem to be missing one important piece of information. YOU'RE TALKING TO A ***** CONSOLE COMMUNITY ABOUT GETTING RID OF THERE CONSOLE GAME TO PORT IT TO PC, OR TELLING THEM WAIT BECAUSE PC MASTER RACE. You find that acceptable? Then yes, read my as a rant, because there's no arguing the fact we've been **** with, and you support it. And ninja nerfs include changing the commando's CPU without changing the PG to make the suit make damn sense. And this games 'origins' has been the only reason you have a shot at CPM instead of going back to EvE because Dust was killed off by a community already tired of CCP through EvE. Calm down... both of you. The problem, Amadi, is the cost of entry into a viable PC is much, much higher than a PS4. Even paying for a cheap rig, you're looking at more than the cost of the PS4, alone. How am I being selfish for asking for something that would provide people with a cheaper cost of entry? A used PS4, right now, is $370... a similarly price pointed desktop, found here at Amazon for $217 without a monitor, won't even come with a graphics card capable of running the game at a steady fps: Benchmark of the same graphics card, but in a laptop The real telling thing, is the lower resolution, lowest game settings, and all of the games with unreal 3 engine (specifically, Bioshock Infinite, for one), average well below the necessary FPS (24) for a 'smooth' gaming experience Assume you're spending more money, here @ $100 more than a PS4 ... the benchmarks are still, very bad: BioShock Infinite 2013 low 1280x720 min 43.9 \|\| avg 48.2 \|\| max 55.7 med. 1366x768 min 26.1 \|\| avg 28.3 \|\| max 30.5 high 1366x768 min 21.6 \|\| avg 23.5 \|\| high 25.5 ultra 1920x1080 7.4 fps All I am saying, is that the PS4 has the lowest barrier to play, provides the best performance vs cost for the player, and will allow CCP to maintain an already existing relationship with Sony. In fact, like I pointed out, there are games that do play cross-platform (i.e. FF14). Now, as a counter argument: 1) How do you intend to keep people from hacking? There are commercially available software packages that CCP could purchase, but this is not cost-effective 2) How do you intend to keep the game alive in a flooded market, like Steam? Many many games exist, for free, on PC... much much more than PS4 3) How do you intend to level the playing field vs higher end systems? People already bring up the point that an SSD modified PS3 is "ez mode" Dust, but how about a PC with SSD, dual video cards, overclocked CPU, etc etc. People will be well into the match before those who bought an equally priced pc as I linked above, could even load the matches. CPM2 Candidate Intent to run is found here: Intent Allow me to help improve Dust
sir RAVEN WING 4	Posted - 2015.08.01 18:13:00 - [80] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: You'd be competing with other titles on the PS4 too.. That argument isn't exclusive to the PC... Battlefield, Call of Duty, Planetside 2, Black Light Retribution - if it's a title on the PC it's probably a title on the PS4 as well... Battlefield is not much of a competition. It's got good mechanics, but it lacks what makes DUST live. An active 'universe'. Battlefield is 'Matchmaking' there is very little interaction before that. We've dealt with it on PS3 and we're still here. Call of Duty is a joke, it'll last for a month and then everyone will forget it exists. Planetside 2 would be showing some good competition. It may be the only real problem on your list. Black Light Retribution just isn't a threat. Please provide good examples of PS4 Competition before opting for PC which has impossible amounts of heavy competition. VF Diplomat. Basically, I clean up the political shit the other's make.

demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 694	Posted - 2015.08.01 18:19:00 - [81] - Quote In short, let me put it this way: Why do app makers prefer making apps on Apple products vs making apps for Androids? Apple has a guaranteed, uniform structure. The hardware is identical across the whole platform, and the operating systems are, generally, the same. Android has different hardware from phone to phone, and different versions of operating systems. The cost to develop a stable app across all of android is more programming intensive. CCP would have to make sure the game is QC'ed across many, many variations, which would take up a lot of resources and time. PS4 would guarantee all hardware is the same across all players, making it easier for CCP to develop the game for a stable experience across the whole player base. CPM2 Candidate Intent to run is found here: Intent Allow me to help improve Dust
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.01 18:53:00 - [82] - Quote Please provide examples of titles on the PC that would compete with Dust 514, then, since those that I listed were not apparently part of the same criteria as "competition" (since apparently FPS games and MMOs are -not- competition, only a very niche MMOFPS genre that is relatively new to the gaming industry). Bearing in mind that Destiny is not on the PC, so if we're looking solely at MMOFPS games then PS4 still has more non-indie competition. And to answer Demens' questions: How do you stop a console player from using a modded controller? We're facing that issue right now as it is. You can't. You can't stop hacking and you can't stop modded controllers or additional peripherals. When it comes to hacking, CCP does lifetime bans, so it isn't so much a proactive measure as a reactive measure. Sure, hacker'll ruin a couple of matches but when he's having to make a brand new account on a different IP address everyday, it just isn't practical or feasible - especially when he's not able to save SP in doing so. There is no longevity in it and therefore, ultimately pointless. As to how you keep a game alive in a flooded market? Easy, you make it unique - you make it stand out. How do you think Five Nights At Freddy's, Depth, or Minecraft stood out from a flooded market? They thought outside the box and they provided players an experience that no other game has. An experience we've already laid the foundation for with the Eve link. But it's a moot point anyway because that same flooded market never stopped games from taking off (Dota) -or- failing (Evolve). You can't predict how successful a game will be based solely on how many competing titles there are. And the last point brought up is pretty simple: Start-up times. I mean, we have a warbarge prior to a battle for a reason. But if we're going to sit here and compare graphical capability all I can say is that is just the nature of PC gaming as a whole. But this is pointless, ultimately. We could argue endlessly about the pros and cons about the PS4 and PC and what it'll eventually come down to is that everyone has their preference and that preference will always go against the other side of the fence. Someone is getting burned. Pure and simple. They're either going to have to adapt or get left behind. I could care less about which community gets burned, I'm only concerned about how long this game is going to last on either platform and a big factor in my preference is that we're going to be having this exact same debate when the PS5 is being developed. Aeon Amadi for CPM 2 Design A SKIN 2
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:02:00 - [83] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: In short, let me put it this way: Why do app makers prefer making apps on Apple products vs making apps for Androids? Apple has a guaranteed, uniform structure. The hardware is identical across the whole platform, and the operating systems are, generally, the same. Android has different hardware from phone to phone, and different versions of operating systems. The cost to develop a stable app across all of android is more programming intensive. CCP would have to make sure the game is QC'ed across many, many variations, which would take up a lot of resources and time. PS4 would guarantee all hardware is the same across all players, making it easier for CCP to develop the game for a stable experience across the whole player base. I'm going to assume that Apple is the Console and Android is the PC. In this case CCP would have to talk to Apple to do basically anything whereas Android they'd have free-reign to make, update, and sell their game as they please. Not to mention the fact that Apple would be taking a share of the profits, whereas android would not. Aeon Amadi for CPM 2 Design A SKIN 2
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:04:00 - [84] - Quote As a final statement before I walk away from this seriously irritating topic point: You guys are getting way too bent out of shape over the fact that I said I would prefer PC. I already said, multiple times, that I would play Dust 514 on either platform. I'm sorry that offends you. Aeon Amadi for CPM 2 Design A SKIN 2
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 694	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:09:00 - [85] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: demens grimwulff wrote: In short, let me put it this way: Why do app makers prefer making apps on Apple products vs making apps for Androids? Apple has a guaranteed, uniform structure. The hardware is identical across the whole platform, and the operating systems are, generally, the same. Android has different hardware from phone to phone, and different versions of operating systems. The cost to develop a stable app across all of android is more programming intensive. CCP would have to make sure the game is QC'ed across many, many variations, which would take up a lot of resources and time. PS4 would guarantee all hardware is the same across all players, making it easier for CCP to develop the game for a stable experience across the whole player base. I'm going to assume that Apple is the Console and Android is the PC. In this case CCP would have to talk to Apple to do basically anything whereas Android they'd have free-reign to make, update, and sell their game as they please. Not to mention the fact that Apple would be taking a share of the profits, whereas android would not. ... and you completely missed the point of the analogy... CPM2 Candidate Intent to run is found here: Intent Allow me to help improve Dust
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 694	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:10:00 - [86] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: As a final statement before I walk away from this seriously irritating topic point: You guys are getting way too bent out of shape over the fact that I said I would prefer PC. I already said, multiple times, that I would play Dust 514 on either platform. I'm sorry that offends you. I am not the one getting bent out of shape. A discussion is necessary, but your strawman isn't. CPM2 Candidate Intent to run is found here: Intent Allow me to help improve Dust
demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 694	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:21:00 - [87] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: How do you stop a console player from using a modded controller? We're facing that issue right now as it is. You can't. You can't stop hacking and you can't stop modded controllers or additional peripherals. When it comes to hacking, CCP does lifetime bans, so it isn't so much a proactive measure as a reactive measure. Sure, hacker'll ruin a couple of matches but when he's having to make a brand new account on a different IP address everyday, it just isn't practical or feasible - especially when he's not able to save SP in doing so. There is no longevity in it and therefore, ultimately pointless. As to how you keep a game alive in a flooded market? Easy, you make it unique - you make it stand out. How do you think Five Nights At Freddy's, Depth, or Minecraft stood out from a flooded market? They thought outside the box and they provided players an experience that no other game has. An experience we've already laid the foundation for with the Eve link. But it's a moot point anyway because that same flooded market never stopped games from taking off (Dota) -or- failing (Evolve). You can't predict how successful a game will be based solely on how many competing titles there are. And the last point brought up is pretty simple: Start-up times. I mean, we have a warbarge prior to a battle for a reason. But if we're going to sit here and compare graphical capability all I can say is that is just the nature of PC gaming as a whole. But this is pointless, ultimately. We could argue endlessly about the pros and cons about the PS4 and PC and what it'll eventually come down to is that everyone has their preference and that preference will always go against the other side of the fence. Someone is getting burned. Pure and simple. They're either going to have to adapt or get left behind. I could care less about which community gets burned, I'm only concerned about how long this game is going to last on either platform and a big factor in my preference is that we're going to be having this exact same debate when the PS5 is being developed. Where to begin... Modded controller is now equated to wall hacks, invincibility, lack of clipping, etc etc etc... yet, modded everything will be available for the pc user... Yes, because this is comparable to modded controllers... On a computer, an IP ban takes seconds to overcome... so I don't foresee that being a big deterrent... or, even, a MAC address ban, as MAC spoofing takes about the same amount of time. Amadi... like I said, people already complain about the difference between SSD and HDD... do you think it will be on even playing ground when you're discussing hardware that is, literally, orders of magnitude different (hence, also, the apple analogy you missed). CPM2 Candidate Intent to run is found here: Intent Allow me to help improve Dust
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:30:00 - [88] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: As a final statement before I walk away from this seriously irritating topic point: You guys are getting way too bent out of shape over the fact that I said I would prefer PC. I already said, multiple times, that I would play Dust 514 on either platform. I'm sorry that offends you. I am not the one getting bent out of shape. A discussion is necessary, but your strawman isn't. No, a discussion is not necessary if it is going to come down to antagonizing people over personal preferences. Both the PC and the PS4 are excellent candidates for their respective reasons and ultimately it comes down to how much of a **** you give as to where we go with either. Yes, a PS4 is more cost effective, but it simply does not do nearly as much as a PC and you get what you pay for. In terms of Dust 514 and -only- Dust 514, that may be a good option, but for a game that is meant to be connected to Eve Online I see a great deal of potential in allowing players from both sides to partake in both sides of that universe. I like oranges and I like apples. I like the taste of oranges better but I'll eat either. Aeon Amadi for CPM 2 Design A SKIN 2
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:32:00 - [89] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: How do you stop a console player from using a modded controller? We're facing that issue right now as it is. You can't. You can't stop hacking and you can't stop modded controllers or additional peripherals. When it comes to hacking, CCP does lifetime bans, so it isn't so much a proactive measure as a reactive measure. Sure, hacker'll ruin a couple of matches but when he's having to make a brand new account on a different IP address everyday, it just isn't practical or feasible - especially when he's not able to save SP in doing so. There is no longevity in it and therefore, ultimately pointless. As to how you keep a game alive in a flooded market? Easy, you make it unique - you make it stand out. How do you think Five Nights At Freddy's, Depth, or Minecraft stood out from a flooded market? They thought outside the box and they provided players an experience that no other game has. An experience we've already laid the foundation for with the Eve link. But it's a moot point anyway because that same flooded market never stopped games from taking off (Dota) -or- failing (Evolve). You can't predict how successful a game will be based solely on how many competing titles there are. And the last point brought up is pretty simple: Start-up times. I mean, we have a warbarge prior to a battle for a reason. But if we're going to sit here and compare graphical capability all I can say is that is just the nature of PC gaming as a whole. But this is pointless, ultimately. We could argue endlessly about the pros and cons about the PS4 and PC and what it'll eventually come down to is that everyone has their preference and that preference will always go against the other side of the fence. Someone is getting burned. Pure and simple. They're either going to have to adapt or get left behind. I could care less about which community gets burned, I'm only concerned about how long this game is going to last on either platform and a big factor in my preference is that we're going to be having this exact same debate when the PS5 is being developed. Where to begin... Modded controller is now equated to wall hacks, invincibility, lack of clipping, etc etc etc... yet, modded everything will be available for the pc user... Yes, because this is comparable to modded controllers... On a computer, an IP ban takes seconds to overcome... so I don't foresee that being a big deterrent... or, even, a MAC address ban, as MAC spoofing takes about the same amount of time. Amadi... like I said, people already complain about the difference between SSD and HDD... do you think it will be on even playing ground when you're discussing hardware that is, literally, orders of magnitude different (hence, also, the apple analogy you missed). Thaaaaaan port it to the PS4, I really don't care. By the time we get done arguing this it could have been ported and I guarantee someone is going to be disappointed no matter what. You can get hemmorhoids over it, or you can accept it. Your call, bro. But the amount of effort being invested into this argument is probably the most unfortunate part. Aeon Amadi for CPM 2 Design A SKIN 2
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 637	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:33:00 - [90] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: But this is pointless, ultimately. We could argue endlessly about the pros and cons about the PS4 and PC and what it'll eventually come down to is that everyone has their preference and that preference will always go against the other side of the fence. Someone is getting burned. Pure and simple. They're either going to have to adapt or get left behind. I could care less about which community gets burned, I'm only concerned about how long this game is going to last on either platform and a big factor in my preference is that we're going to be having this exact same debate when the PS5 is being developed. Stop, just stop. You're in a console community debating PC - do you think us ignorant of the PC specs or possibilities? It's truly pointless, because the route should of been set - a console community continues being just that. A lot of us have put thousands, if not tens of thousands at this point, hours into this game, back by thousands of dollars with promises of a console future. You would be fine with ******* those people over even though the company can be quoted saying things to mislead them? That's borderline white collar crime, and i wouldn't be shocked if several people took up claims against CCP.

demens grimwulff Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 694	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:34:00 - [91] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: demens grimwulff wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: As a final statement before I walk away from this seriously irritating topic point: You guys are getting way too bent out of shape over the fact that I said I would prefer PC. I already said, multiple times, that I would play Dust 514 on either platform. I'm sorry that offends you. I am not the one getting bent out of shape. A discussion is necessary, but your strawman isn't. No, a discussion is not necessary if it is going to come down to antagonizing people over personal preferences. Both the PC and the PS4 are excellent candidates for their respective reasons and ultimately it comes down to how much of a **** you give as to where we go with either. Yes, a PS4 is more cost effective, but it simply does not do nearly as much as a PC and you get what you pay for. In terms of Dust 514 and -only- Dust 514, that may be a good option, but for a game that is meant to be connected to Eve Online I see a great deal of potential in allowing players from both sides to partake in both sides of that universe. I like oranges and I like apples. I like the taste of oranges better but I'll eat either. And that is what I am saying, just on a different level. CPM2 Candidate Intent to run is found here: Intent Allow me to help improve Dust
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 637	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:35:00 - [92] - Quote i want my vote back. I had no clue Aeon was bat **** crazy.
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:43:00 - [93] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: demens grimwulff wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: As a final statement before I walk away from this seriously irritating topic point: You guys are getting way too bent out of shape over the fact that I said I would prefer PC. I already said, multiple times, that I would play Dust 514 on either platform. I'm sorry that offends you. I am not the one getting bent out of shape. A discussion is necessary, but your strawman isn't. No, a discussion is not necessary if it is going to come down to antagonizing people over personal preferences. Both the PC and the PS4 are excellent candidates for their respective reasons and ultimately it comes down to how much of a **** you give as to where we go with either. Yes, a PS4 is more cost effective, but it simply does not do nearly as much as a PC and you get what you pay for. In terms of Dust 514 and -only- Dust 514, that may be a good option, but for a game that is meant to be connected to Eve Online I see a great deal of potential in allowing players from both sides to partake in both sides of that universe. I like oranges and I like apples. I like the taste of oranges better but I'll eat either. And that is what I am saying, just on a different level. .... sure you are. Aeon Amadi for CPM 2 Design A SKIN 2
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:44:00 - [94] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: i want my vote back. I had no clue Aeon was bat **** crazy. Oh no, Aeon likes PC more than PS4 but would play on either, what ever will I do now that he isn't 100% against PC and 100% for PS4 the sky is falling the sky is falling Aeon Amadi for CPM 2 Design A SKIN 2
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 637	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:47:00 - [95] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: i want my vote back. I had no clue Aeon was bat ** crazy. Oh no, Aeon likes PC more than PS4 but would play on either, what ever will I do now that he isn't 100% against PC and 100% for PS4 the sky is falling the sky is falling Yes, quite literally, you support something i'm very much against. As a candidate, i can't support you whose willing to ** over other people so willingly who've done nothing but support this game. That's not what we need in CPM, that's what CCP wants to hear so they can justify more mistakes. More Omega Boosters before more Fanfest 2014's, more claims of 10 year plan then a year later scratching it off. more excuses to milk us to provide to another platform. You quite seriously need to rethink your position and wether or not you want to even continue playing this game, because your opinion put a bullseye on you for me. You don't care for the community - only the game. And that's fine - but it's not what i support. You'l be seeing me a lot more often from now on Aeon, prepare dat ass.
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:55:00 - [96] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: i want my vote back. I had no clue Aeon was bat ** crazy. Oh no, Aeon likes PC more than PS4 but would play on either, what ever will I do now that he isn't 100% against PC and 100% for PS4 the sky is falling the sky is falling Yes, quite literally, you support something i'm very much against. As a candidate, i can't support you whose willing to ** over other people so willingly who've done nothing but support this game. That's not what we need in CPM, that's what CCP wants to hear so they can justify more mistakes. More Omega Boosters before more Fanfest 2014's, more claims of 10 year plan then a year later scratching it off. more excuses to milk us to provide to another platform. You quite seriously need to rethink your position and wether or not you want to even continue playing this game, because your opinion put a bullseye on you for me. Well, I'm not going to. Sorry. I'm interested in the long term survival of this game, not whether or not Shadowed Cola is happy with me. I've heard all sort of reasons why I'm not a good CPM candidate, including my posting a thirty second video of me sniping some dude in a Balac's Assault suit. The novelty and effect have pretty much worn off the stupider the reason gets. But I'm sure you'll find someone to wave your flag for you. Aeon Amadi for CPM 2 Design A SKIN 2
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 637	Posted - 2015.08.01 19:58:00 - [97] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: i want my vote back. I had no clue Aeon was bat ** crazy. Oh no, Aeon likes PC more than PS4 but would play on either, what ever will I do now that he isn't 100% against PC and 100% for PS4 the sky is falling the sky is falling Yes, quite literally, you support something i'm very much against. As a candidate, i can't support you whose willing to over other people so willingly who've done nothing but support this game. That's not what we need in CPM, that's what CCP wants to hear so they can justify more mistakes. More Omega Boosters before more Fanfest 2014's, more claims of 10 year plan then a year later scratching it off. more excuses to milk us to provide to another platform. You quite seriously need to rethink your position and wether or not you want to even continue playing this game, because your opinion put a bullseye on you for me. Well, I'm not going to. Sorry. I'm interested in the long term survival of this game, not whether or not Shadowed Cola is happy with me. I've heard all sort of reasons why I'm not a good CPM candidate, including my posting a thirty second video of me sniping some dude in a Balac's Assault suit. The novelty and effect have pretty much worn off the stupider the reason gets. But I'm sure you'll find someone to wave your flag for you. Sadly, your not running for a development position, but as a middle man for communications between us and CCP. want to explain your reasoning and logic to how you represent or speak for us when you don't agree with supporting us to begin with you ***** hypocrite?
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.01 20:11:00 - [98] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: i want my vote back. I had no clue Aeon was bat ** crazy. Oh no, Aeon likes PC more than PS4 but would play on either, what ever will I do now that he isn't 100% against PC and 100% for PS4 the sky is falling the sky is falling Yes, quite literally, you support something i'm very much against. As a candidate, i can't support you whose willing to over other people so willingly who've done nothing but support this game. That's not what we need in CPM, that's what CCP wants to hear so they can justify more mistakes. More Omega Boosters before more Fanfest 2014's, more claims of 10 year plan then a year later scratching it off. more excuses to milk us to provide to another platform. You quite seriously need to rethink your position and wether or not you want to even continue playing this game, because your opinion put a bullseye on you for me. Well, I'm not going to. Sorry. I'm interested in the long term survival of this game, not whether or not Shadowed Cola is happy with me. I've heard all sort of reasons why I'm not a good CPM candidate, including my posting a thirty second video of me sniping some dude in a Balac's Assault suit. The novelty and effect have pretty much worn off the stupider the reason gets. But I'm sure you'll find someone to wave your flag for you. Sadly, your not running for a development position, but as a middle man for communications between us and CCP. want to explain your reasoning and logic to how you represent or speak for us when you don't agree with supporting us to begin with you ***** hypocrite? Because the community's opinion on this is nebulous and not chalked up to any one person. If both the Dust 514 community and the Eve Online community were 100% unanimous in that Dust 514 should be ported to the PS4, I'd say go for it. But unfortunately I'm looking at an active online player base of 3000 people on Dust 514, of which only a portion are arguing for it's continued existence on consoles, and an active player-base of 50,000 people on Eve Online, of which they are pretty much all arguing for it to be on PC. Further more, because I feel it needs repeating since the point clearly hasn't been hammered into your head yet, I don't care if it goes to the PS4 or the PC. If it goes to the PS4, I'll throw down the $450 and get one and be playing right with you guys. If it goes to the PC, cool, I'll just spend that $450 on the game (probably through SKINs) and probably be just as happy with my financial decision making. But then there's this: What about the portion of the community that wants Dust 514's continued development to remain on the PS3, because they cannot afford to shell out for either a PS4 or a PC? Am I supposed to ignore them as well because you want it on the PS4? Or am I supposed to consider them first and foremost as the top priority over you? You're wanting me to be 100% Pro-PS4 and I'm sorry but that's not going to happen. It's closed minded and obtuse. It's a difficult decision, certainly, but it isn't my decision to make. It's CCP's. The only thing I care about is a port -at all-. Aeon Amadi for CPM 2 Design A SKIN 2
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 637	Posted - 2015.08.01 20:19:00 - [99] - Quote Aeon, PS3 has no guaranteed future after 2015. Sony only promised support up to that point, it's up in the air if Dust can continue on PS3 wether CCP wants it or not. That's why there's a call for the PS4 port lately, the certainty of even remaining as we are is starting to look grim. But the real issue here is your outlook on your position - you have CPM all wrong. Of course it's important for you to understand development process, the meta, and everything in-between - but it's also important you connect with us. and you don't. It's nice you stand by your opinions, but you lack the charisma to take it anywhere, it's left up to the people who reply to you to set the tone or wether or not you get trolled half the time. So if we can't expect you to voice our opinions and you suck at voicing your own - why would we elect you? Because you know things?
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.08.01 20:28:00 - [100] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Aeon, PS3 has no guaranteed future after 2015. Sony only promised support up to that point, it's up in the air if Dust can continue on PS3 wether CCP wants it or not. That's why there's a call for the PS4 port lately, the certainty of even remaining as we are is starting to look grim. But the real issue here is your outlook on your position - you have CPM all wrong. Of course it's important for you to understand development process, the meta, and everything in-between - but it's also important you connect with us. and you don't. It's nice you stand by your opinions, but you lack the charisma to take it anywhere, it's left up to the people who reply to you to set the tone or wether or not you get trolled half the time. So if we can't expect you to voice our opinions and you suck at voicing your own - why would we elect you? Because you know things? There is an important distinction between the community's voice and -your- voice. Aeon Amadi for CPM 2 Design A SKIN 2



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