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FLAY LOCKED
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.25 13:06:00 -
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I now understand why players choose to run ARRs on Gallente suits. They perform so much better than the ARs. It's as if the ARR combines the range of the TAR and the damage of the Breach AR and gives it a slight kick with some negligible charge-up time and then adds more ammo, a larger magazine capacity, and finishes off with more damage to the current armor meta.
I only have the ARR at Prof. 3 right now, but I'm finding it more effective than my Prof. 5 AR. It does well in close quarters and excels at longer ranges. Why do you Gallente purists insist on gimping yourselves with a crap tier weapon? If you're not on the ARR train, you better hurry up and get your asses on board. |
maybe deadcatz
Horizons' Edge
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.25 13:11:00 -
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FLAY LOCKED wrote:I now understand why players choose to run ARRs on Gallente suits. They perform so much better than the ARs. It's as if the ARR combines the range of the TAR and the damage of the Breach AR and gives it a slight kick with some negligible charge-up time and then adds more ammo, a larger magazine capacity, and finishes off with more damage to the current armor meta.
I only have the ARR at Prof. 3 right now, but I'm finding it more effective than my Prof. 5 AR. It does well in close quarters and excels at longer ranges. Why do you Gallente purists insist on gimping yourselves with a crap tier weapon? If you're not on the ARR train, you better hurry up and get your asses on board.
because some people dont wanna be crutchy little f*cks, or rely on other racial weapons in their fits(not me though, i use whatever on whatever)
Ewar? What's that? Some kind of new crutch? Learn how to use your eyes and ears you maggots. Batteskirts for the win!!
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FLAY LOCKED
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.25 13:20:00 -
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@deadcatz
An ARR on a Gallente suit is hardly a crutch. Want to know what real crutches are?
-Assault Scrambler Rifles on Amarr Assaults
-Combat Rifles on Minmatar Assaults
-Shotguns on cloaked Gallente Scouts
-2 or more scanners on a Gallente Logistics
-Heavies with Logis tied to their asses
-Any suit with a Bolt Pistol
-Drive by HMG Heavies
I can go on as the list is quite large, but an ARR on a Gal Suit a crutch? LOL |
Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.25 13:22:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:FLAY LOCKED wrote:I now understand why players choose to run ARRs on Gallente suits. They perform so much better than the ARs. It's as if the ARR combines the range of the TAR and the damage of the Breach AR and gives it a slight kick with some negligible charge-up time and then adds more ammo, a larger magazine capacity, and finishes off with more damage to the current armor meta.
I only have the ARR at Prof. 3 right now, but I'm finding it more effective than my Prof. 5 AR. It does well in close quarters and excels at longer ranges. Why do you Gallente purists insist on gimping yourselves with a crap tier weapon? If you're not on the ARR train, you better hurry up and get your asses on board. because some people dont wanna be crutchy little f*cks, or rely on other racial weapons in their fits(not me though, i use whatever on whatever)
Call it a crutch but I do it purely because I like being Amarr, only use other race's weapons when situation calls for it or when I suddenly feel like it
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Luna McDuffing
COALICION LATINA
Smart Deploy
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Posted - 2015.06.25 13:43:00 -
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Cody Sietz
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
4
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Posted - 2015.06.25 13:47:00 -
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Yeah, the ARR really compliments the GalAssault play style.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.06.25 13:49:00 -
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Luna McDuffing wrote:The AK-47 is a Russian weapon yet it is used by pretty much everybody.
Good analogy (even tho real life comparisons bad blaa blaa).
Yet that is something that people can't comprehend.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.06.25 13:55:00 -
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Isn't there a gallente ship in EvE that uses rail or something.
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.25 14:05:00 -
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TAR is better imho it is the Mk 14 Mod 0 of dust and is better suited for hit hard in the face and recover playstyle.
and the gallente assault bonus is actually useful with the TAR.
Nocturnal Soul wrote:Isn't there a gallente ship in EvE that uses rail or something.
yes and no. rails count as hybrids and gallente get bonus to hybrids.
but in eve rails are pure long range weapons and gallente ships usually get benefits for close range which do not help rails at all. |
Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
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Posted - 2015.06.25 14:07:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Isn't there a gallente ship in EvE that uses rail or something.
Railguns are considered a "Hybrid Turret" alongside the blaster turrets and both Gallente and Caldari use ships with hybrid turret bonuses. Gallente actually use them far more than Caldari as the Caldari focus more on missiles but they do have at least one ship per hull class that has a hybrid bonus.
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Stormblade Green
KnightKiller's inc.
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Posted - 2015.06.25 14:21:00 -
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FLAY LOCKED wrote:I now understand why players choose to run ARRs on Gallente suits. They perform so much better than the ARs. It's as if the ARR combines the range of the TAR and the damage of the Breach AR and gives it a slight kick with some negligible charge-up time and then adds more ammo, a larger magazine capacity, and finishes off with more damage to the current armor m
I only have the ARR at Prof. 3 right now, but I'm finding it more effective than my Prof. 5 AR. It does well in close quarters and excels at longer ranges. Why do you Gallente purists insist on gimping yourselves with a crap tier weapon? If you're not on the ARR train, you better hurry up and get your asses on board.
So are you trying to get it nerfed?
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Zan Azikuchi
G.R.A.V.E
The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.25 14:54:00 -
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Stormblade Green wrote:FLAY LOCKED wrote:I now understand why players choose to run ARRs on Gallente suits. They perform so much better than the ARs. It's as if the ARR combines the range of the TAR and the damage of the Breach AR and gives it a slight kick with some negligible charge-up time and then adds more ammo, a larger magazine capacity, and finishes off with more damage to the current armor m
I only have the ARR at Prof. 3 right now, but I'm finding it more effective than my Prof. 5 AR. It does well in close quarters and excels at longer ranges. Why do you Gallente purists insist on gimping yourselves with a crap tier weapon? If you're not on the ARR train, you better hurry up and get your asses on board. So are you trying to get it nerfed?
The only nerf I see, is that the RR's get nerfed with all the suits except caldari.
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2015.06.25 14:57:00 -
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FLAY LOCKED wrote:@deadcatz
-Assault Scrambler Rifles on Amarr Assaults
-Combat Rifles on Minmatar Assaults
-Shotguns on cloaked Gallente Scouts
-2 or more scanners on a Gallente Logistics
-Heavies with Logis tied to their asses
-Any suit with a Bolt Pistol
-Drive by HMG Heavies
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basically everything anyone else uses is a crutch, except what I use. |
Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.06.25 14:57:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Isn't there a gallente ship in EvE that uses rail or something. Railguns are considered a "Hybrid Turret" alongside the blaster turrets and both Gallente and Caldari use ships with hybrid turret bonuses. Gallente actually use them far more than Caldari as the Caldari focus more on missiles but they do have at least one ship per hull class that has a hybrid bonus.
Well.... They never made a Missile Rifle... So >_>;
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.06.25 15:25:00 -
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FLAY LOCKED wrote:I now understand why players choose to run ARRs on Gallente suits. They perform so much better than the ARs. It's as if the ARR combines the range of the TAR and the damage of the Breach AR and gives it a slight kick with some negligible charge-up time and then adds more ammo, a larger magazine capacity, and finishes off with more damage to the current armor meta.
I only have the ARR at Prof. 3 right now, but I'm finding it more effective than my Prof. 5 AR. It does well in close quarters and excels at longer ranges. Why do you Gallente purists insist on gimping yourselves with a crap tier weapon? If you're not on the ARR train, you better hurry up and get your asses on board.
I'm actually looking into speccing into the RR. Getting tired of getting killed by it. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.06.25 15:36:00 -
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FLAY LOCKED wrote:@deadcatz
An ARR on a Gallente suit is hardly a crutch. Want to know what real crutches are?
-Assault Scrambler Rifles on Amarr Assaults
-Combat Rifles on Minmatar Assaults
-Shotguns on cloaked Gallente Scouts
-2 or more scanners on a Gallente Logistics
-Heavies with Logis tied to their asses
-Any suit with a Bolt Pistol
-Drive by HMG Heavies
I can go on as the list is quite large, but an ARR on a Gal Suit a crutch? LOL
One...two...three......
Yup done all of those. ON TO THE NEXT CHECKLIST!
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
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Posted - 2015.06.25 15:50:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Daddrobit wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Isn't there a gallente ship in EvE that uses rail or something. Railguns are considered a "Hybrid Turret" alongside the blaster turrets and both Gallente and Caldari use ships with hybrid turret bonuses. Gallente actually use them far more than Caldari as the Caldari focus more on missiles but they do have at least one ship per hull class that has a hybrid bonus. Well.... They never made a Missile Rifle... So >_>;
Ahhh, not entirely true. We did have the dumbfire swarm launchers. Those were pretty much the definition of a missile rifle.
Too bad they were broken as hell...
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.06.25 15:53:00 -
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Zan Azikuchi wrote:Stormblade Green wrote:FLAY LOCKED wrote:I now understand why players choose to run ARRs on Gallente suits. They perform so much better than the ARs. It's as if the ARR combines the range of the TAR and the damage of the Breach AR and gives it a slight kick with some negligible charge-up time and then adds more ammo, a larger magazine capacity, and finishes off with more damage to the current armor m
I only have the ARR at Prof. 3 right now, but I'm finding it more effective than my Prof. 5 AR. It does well in close quarters and excels at longer ranges. Why do you Gallente purists insist on gimping yourselves with a crap tier weapon? If you're not on the ARR train, you better hurry up and get your asses on board. So are you trying to get it nerfed? The only nerf I see, is that the RR's get nerfed with all the suits except caldari.
Or they could just fix the caldari assault?
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Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
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Posted - 2015.06.25 16:26:00 -
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I fail to see why assault rail rifles are considered to be good.
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.06.25 16:37:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I fail to see why assault rail rifles are considered to be good.
Pubs
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Sicerly Yaw
Quantum times
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Posted - 2015.06.25 16:43:00 -
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I see caldari assaults running AR's all the time and lately i've been seeing a lot more gal and cal assaults using the scrambler
using the scrambler on caldari is by far the worst since the feedback damage can really set you back and it makes you have to wait for your shields to regen
using the AR on cal is also not the most favorable but way better at close to mid range fighting then the ARR or RR
the reason why a lot of Gal players think the ARR is far superior is that they are not used to getting kills at range since they are not supposed to engage targets as such, so most of the people using ARR are really just people that like to fight at range but don't like using shield suits, meaning there is something obviously wrong when a weapon does not complement the suit
the ranged play of a caldari can be gimped by the kick especially versus laser weaponry that destroys shields at range with extreme accuracy so shield users tend to go for weaponry that allows them better hit and run tactics
while armor suits can take sustained damage at range making it way easier to use ARR or RR
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Fluffy Exterminatus
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.06.25 16:52:00 -
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the tar does more dam then breach. the reason the arr is used is 2/3 of hp in game is armor because of plates and reps being better. Also has good hipfire and range but so does tar on gal ass.
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Fluffy Exterminatus
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.06.25 16:55:00 -
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Luna McDuffing wrote:The AK-47 is a Russian weapon yet it is used by pretty much everybody. cause its cheap poor people use them. not even close to everybody
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.06.25 16:55:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Luna McDuffing wrote:The AK-47 is a Russian weapon yet it is used by pretty much everybody. Good analogy (even tho real life comparisons bad blaa blaa). Yet that is something that people can't comprehend.
I was going to try to argue against that point but if memory serves, the AK was developed during the early days of the cold war right? So the USSR were happy to give their tech to most that could afford it.
I was going to say about how the real world is nothing like eve and there are not 4 superpowers that hate each other.... but the Cold war was basically the two sides hating each other so.... mehh.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.06.25 16:56:00 -
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Fluffy Exterminatus wrote:the tar does more dam then breach. the reason the arr is used is 2/3 of hp in game is armor because of plates and reps being better.
The only thing that shields have in terms of benefit really is the innate recharge levels. Apart from that Armour wins in like 99% of other situations.
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
783
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Posted - 2015.06.25 17:01:00 -
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Luna McDuffing wrote:The AK-47 is a Russian weapon yet it is used by pretty much everybody.
Video games.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.06.25 17:12:00 -
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Why is the ARR my favorite gun on the Gal Assault suit?
It simply works the best at both long range and short. It's armor bias is far superior as well given the current shield v armor meta.
These days I only pull out the AR if I have shield tankers that are problematic in CQC -- which is to say rarely. |
maybe deadcatz
Horizons' Edge
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.25 19:37:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I fail to see why assault rail rifles are considered to be good. Pubs
Teh armour meta. Even the standard arr is op. If i ever see anyone with a ishukone arr then i know its tryhard day for them,all that padding going on.
Ewar? What's that? Some kind of new crutch? Learn how to use your eyes and ears you maggots. Batteskirts for the win!!
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Vitharr Foebane
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.25 19:45:00 -
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FLAY LOCKED wrote:@deadcatz
An ARR on a Gallente suit is hardly a crutch. Want to know what real crutches are?
-Assault Scrambler Rifles on Amarr Assaults
So a race using it's racial weaponry is crutchy that's good to know...
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Zan Azikuchi
G.R.A.V.E
The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.25 19:50:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:FLAY LOCKED wrote:@deadcatz
An ARR on a Gallente suit is hardly a crutch. Want to know what real crutches are?
-Assault Scrambler Rifles on Amarr Assaults
So a race using it's racial weaponry is crutchy that's good to know...
Of course, don't you know? This is Mix 514, no purist's in this game fella, GTFO scrub- Okay, seriously the author need's to reduce the amount of drug's he's on, CLEARLY, he just want's to nerf the ARR so that the only weapon's we see are the ASCR, SCR, CR, and AR.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.06.25 20:04:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Daddrobit wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Isn't there a gallente ship in EvE that uses rail or something. Railguns are considered a "Hybrid Turret" alongside the blaster turrets and both Gallente and Caldari use ships with hybrid turret bonuses. Gallente actually use them far more than Caldari as the Caldari focus more on missiles but they do have at least one ship per hull class that has a hybrid bonus. Well.... They never made a Missile Rifle... So >_>; Ahhh, not entirely true. We did have the dumbfire swarm launchers. Those were pretty much the definition of a missile rifle. Too bad they were broken as hell...
It really bothers me that Caldari don't have anywhere near the amount of missiles they should have in this game.
I understand making the Caldari use rails as their primary instead of secondary but damn, don't block out Gallente from using Rails either.
I miss when both Gallente and Caldari got bonuses to hybrid weapons, preferring their own style of course, it made the game just a bit more....New Eden like. It's one of the first things I identified with EVE when I played.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.06.25 20:05:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Isn't there a gallente ship in EvE that uses rail or something. Railguns are considered a "Hybrid Turret" alongside the blaster turrets and both Gallente and Caldari use ships with hybrid turret bonuses. Gallente actually use them far more than Caldari as the Caldari focus more on missiles but they do have at least one ship per hull class that has a hybrid bonus.
Not entirely true.
Yes, rails and blasters are both hybrid turrets. Blasters are pathetically short range but murderously high damage, Rails are mid-long range but lower damage.
Gallente usually get bonuses to tracking speed (the speed at which your guns turn) and to damage, making blasters stay short range, but track well and have omgfacemelt dps. These bonuses when applied to rails keep rail weaponry as a midrange-ish option, but it causes them to hit fairly hard and apply DPS well (especially in combination with drones, which are hilariously overpowered). Gallente ships usually go as follows 1) Support role, like remote armor rep, 2) Ewar role, involving sensor damps, 3) Drone oriented ship, 4) Blaster oriented ship, 5) 'tank' oriented ship with bonus to localized reps. All of these ships usually have a heavy compliment of drones and most have turret slots because gallente haet missiles (and on paper drones are pretty analogous to missiles).
Caldari usually get bonuses to optimal range and sometimes to damage (Haven't checked in a while, but it used to be that a lot of the time caldari didn't use hybrids because they were an incredibly underperforming gun without damage bonuses and apparently ccp was making changes to rectify that). The range bonus specifically is usually a 50% increase to total range, which takes you from say 48km with ammo that doesn't penalize or increase range, and puts you out to 72km (or further if you get two range bonuses!), this is defined as a new 'baseline' so stuff like tracking computers have a much greater impact on range for caldari (where for gallente they have a much greater impact on tracking speed). Essentially it places the caldari much further out than their hybrid using gallente counterparts, because they need to be that far out to actually track properly, making rails pretty solidly a long range weapon. Caldari ships usually come in the following flavors 1) Support oriented remote shield rep ship, 2) ecm oriented ewar ship, 3) damage oriented missile ship, 4) tank oriented rail ship (with bonuses to optimal range, and shield resistances). The caldari don't often have just pure 'hybrid' boats, the only notable exceptions being the cormorant (tracking speed & optimal) and the naga (optimal & damage) and in general they tend to favor missile hardpoints over turret hardpoints when their ships lack a weapon bonus.
So generally when it comes to damage oriented ships, caldari get missile dpsboat & durable rail snipers (though they CAN brawl with blasters, which is usually hilarious), where gallente get drone dpsboat (usually mounting blasters, but stuff like vexor & dominix), pure hybrid dpsboat (thorax, brutix, talos, megathron) with damage & tracking bonuses, and tanky hybrid ship (hyperion is only real example, though myrmidon gets bonus to reps & drones).
Amarr usually get drones & lasers & armor resist ship. Minmatar get projectiles & missiles & shield boost ships.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.06.25 20:08:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:It really bothers me that Caldari don't have anywhere near the amount of missiles they should have in this game.
I understand making the Caldari use rails as their primary instead of secondary but damn, don't block out Gallente from using Rails either.
I miss when both Gallente and Caldari got bonuses to hybrid weapons, preferring their own style of course, it made the game just a bit more....New Eden like. It's one of the first things I identified with EVE when I played.
Caldari tend to use guided missile systems though (swarms), and that would massively upset people if they were able to be used with the same efficiency on infantry as they are on vehicles (I would kill for a swarm launcher that functioned like a PLC though). Minmatar favored rockets/general explosives and they got them (grenades, flaylock rockets, mass driver grenades)
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
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Posted - 2015.06.26 00:59:00 -
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Mina Longstrike wrote:Sanity Snip
Well when it comes to Caldari ships that do have hybrid bonuses, it actually comes to about 50/50 on damage or range or tracking and they have a fair number of ships that do all of the above.
Damage:
Merlin
Moa
Naga
Raptor
Falcon
Eagle
Vulture
Range and or tracking:
Cormorant
Ferox
Naga
Rokh
Raptor
Harpy
Eagle
Vulture
So it's 7 that have a damage focus and 8 that have a tracking/range bonus. And 4 of the ships that do have tracking still have a damage bonus. And like you said, a goodly portion of the damage boats also get a 16% shield omni-resist making them auto-tanky to try and stop Gallente from giving them an 800 DPS blaster boat suppository.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2015.06.26 01:01:00 -
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Luna McDuffing wrote:The AK-47 is a Russian weapon yet it is used by pretty much everybody.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.06.26 01:04:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Mina Longstrike wrote:Sanity Snip Well when it comes to Caldari ships that do have hybrid bonuses, it actually comes to about 50/50 on damage or range or tracking and they have a fair number of ships that do all of the above. Damage: Merlin Moa Naga Raptor Falcon Eagle Vulture Range and or tracking: Cormorant Ferox Naga Rokh Raptor Harpy Eagle Vulture So it's 7 that have a damage focus and 8 that have a tracking/range bonus. And 4 of the ships that do have tracking still have a damage bonus. And like you said, a goodly portion of the damage boats also get a 16% shield omni-resist making them auto-tanky to try and stop Gallente from giving them an 800 DPS blaster boat suppository.
That being said that's a Caldari Racial Trait, the damage resistant shields, basically as a mean of explaining how the Caldari have such advanced and powerful shield technologies that offers protection parallel to that of Amarrian armour.
That being said it's all about kiting those Gallentean brawlers or at least it is when it comes to Amarr vs Gallentean ships.....however it so much easier to just fly at your opponent and catch them up close.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2015.06.26 01:14:00 -
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yup AR, specificlaly Breach was supposed to be shortest range, highest damage but it seems everyone whined and th ebreach got nerfed so we're back to everything outclassing the AR's again 
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.06.26 02:03:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I fail to see why assault rail rifles are considered to be good. Pubs Teh armour meta. Even the standard arr is op. If i ever see anyone with a ishukone arr then i know its tryhard day for them,all that padding going on.
I used it long before it was good..I'm not gonna change cuz everyone else likes to follow..if that makes me a tryhard then I'm a tryhard =ƒÿî
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.06.26 02:09:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Mina Longstrike wrote:Sanity Snip Corrective snip So it's 7 that have a damage focus and 8 that have a tracking/range bonus. And 4 of the ships that do have tracking still have a damage bonus. And like you said, a goodly portion of the damage boats also get a 16% shield omni-resist making them auto-tanky to try and stop Gallente from giving them an 800 DPS blaster boat suppository.
A lot of that has to do with how CCP has mucked about with ships though
I remember when merlin was range bonused (and was 2 turrets 2 missiles... generally making it awful at everything aside being near impossible to kill with its 25% resistance bonus which is now only 20%). I also remember when moa was range, one of the hacs was TWO 10% range bonuses (alongside IIRC a damage bonus and a shield bonus).
There's been a lot of tinkering by ccp to make caldari hybrid weaponry usage good. Because previously it was pretty much just "go heavy missile or go home".
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Daddrobit
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Posted - 2015.06.26 02:40:00 -
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Mina Longstrike wrote:Daddrobit wrote:Mina Longstrike wrote:Sanity Snip Corrective snip So it's 7 that have a damage focus and 8 that have a tracking/range bonus. And 4 of the ships that do have tracking still have a damage bonus. And like you said, a goodly portion of the damage boats also get a 16% shield omni-resist making them auto-tanky to try and stop Gallente from giving them an 800 DPS blaster boat suppository. A lot of that has to do with how CCP has mucked about with ships though I remember when merlin was range bonused (and was 2 turrets 2 missiles... generally making it awful at everything aside being near impossible to kill with its 25% resistance bonus which is now only 20%). I also remember when moa was range, one of the hacs was TWO 10% range bonuses (alongside IIRC a damage bonus and a shield bonus). There's been a lot of tinkering by ccp to make caldari hybrid weaponry usage good. Because previously it was pretty much just "go heavy missile or go home".
Yeppers, it was something like 2 years ago the finally did a huge ship rebalance especially focused on the frigates, and they've been bringing in all the others ever since.
Also, I had a SPKR math moment there, it's indeed 20%, not 16%.
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