No we ended up here because of uprising

So you just want eve players to enjoy dust and f*ck the actual people who support and has supported the game for the past two yet which is the current player base? A lot of ps3 players moved to ps4 because of what happened in fanfest 14 that is why they dont play dust anymore, but are still willing to try dust again if it ever gets ported to ps4 with better mechanics. I dounbt 2% of the ps3 crowd will move to PC including my self because face it dude, i dont wanna play pub matches the rest of my life like some of you. To be competitve ill probably need a 600 to 1000 dollar rig including the mouse and keyboard which are another 200 dollars.

Your post is so biased. It just reeks of "please CCP please me and my PC buddies"

dude you're going to run dust at least 60 fps on this thing, beyond 60 fps there is literally no difference at all, whats wrong with you?! Research for once in your pathetic life.

Most if not all screens have a refresh rate of 60 frames anyway, you can run dust at 500 fps but you will still be seeing 60-75 because that's all our screens are capable of displaying.

a TV can be used as a monitor, you can use a plebby controller instead of kb/m if you're THAT tight for cash, and if you want to be a real noob then you can use linux which is a free OS (but ****).

PS4s were made with parts costing under however much they cost, if they weren't then they wouldn't make a profit from it. If you really want to can just build yourself a ps4 in a shoebox and use linux. (believe it or not this can work, but it'll look like ****)

60 fps is the fastest the human eye can even see movement, so making things higher than 60 fps is madness, I just lock all of my games at 60 fps and make all the graphics settings as good as they'll let me go (because the PC master race has more settings than the average peasant)

You sir, are ********.

There are 2 reasons Dust is where it is now: first, CCP made a huge mistake putting Dust on PS3, because it doesn't have nearly enough memory to bring Dust anywhere near where it's supposed to be. Blaming a single build is both baseless and stupid.

Second, CCP had to split Dust's team. A handful were left on PS3, and the rest were assigned to Legion. In this case, it was because Legion is a complete overhaul of Dust, but any port would split the dev team. PC games don't need to worry about porting.


While you claim my post is biased, every single thread about a PS4 port is extremely biased. Sony has nothing left for Dust, the PS3's player base has shown minimal interest in the game. A port to PS4 wouldn't help the population grow as much as it needs to.

A "huge mistake" hmm this is awfuly similar to what every PC player says on dust 514 review gaming articles but never do realize that dust was once a striving game with a decent player base of over 9k people. The two biggest mistakes that where made here are two. Uprising 1.0 and FF14.

You pointing out that the player base got diminished all due because of the PS4 just shows your lack of knowledge about what went on in this game and it's development. It is not entirely true mainly due to the fact that dust's player base got diminished even way before the ps4 got released when uprsing 1.0 came out on mid 2013. They were many different factors as to why our player base went from 9k to 5k in less than three months and these are some of them. They changed how dust looked, how the guns felt, how aiming and movement felt, how tanks and DS's operated, skills where changed for no reason. They basically said "here play this and dont ask why we changed almost everything that you guys loved from chromosome." Not only did they downgraded and changed everything but the game also became even more buggier. Planetary Conquest which was the end game for many vets just ended up frustrating them because of how bad it was and some of them left but many still stayed until CCP dropped a nuke on FF14 and that was the final nail on the coffin.

Notice how i said not "entirely true" which there is some validity to your claim. The release of the PS4 did hurt dust's player base. Yet Many still stayed because we wanted to hear the future of this game at FF14. And that is where CCP dropped the ball big time. It is not hard to tell that dust was not going to be successful on ps4 during the current poor state that it was. I am glad they did not released to ps4 because they would of had blew it the second time for sure. Right now dust seems to be on a better position with the implementation of skins and trading which allows cash flow through hands. But it is not quiet ready yet.

I am just surprised this game is still going after three heavy blows. The reason why i call your post bias is because you obviously and currently dont give two iotas of the current state of the game much less the player base. Im all up for PC and PS4 release just knowing that dust is alive and well is enough to put my mind at ease. But at least try to give two sh*ts about the situation and dont speak out blatantly claiming how "this" is how it happen while it was not.

Well, we'll start here

http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/07/ccp-fans-buying-ps3s-for-dust-514-developer-claims/

then go here;

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2015/03/21/dust-514-is-now-profitable/

and here

http://www.vg247.com/2015/03/21/project-legion-dust-514-ccp-pc-ps3/

with the last one, they say they are going to keep working on dust.

My question;

Could Dust not be ported to both the PS4 while at the same time prefecting it for Legion? Then we could play both :)

Also, no porting our progress to either pc or ps4

Let us start anew, its where the funs at.

Not really, for the same price as the ps4 you can build a pc that literally outperforms the ps4 in every way.

You lost me at that last part.

The idea of losing everything we've worked for in Dust 514 was part of why people got so angry about Project Legion.

Aye hence the discussion. I decided not to change that part as it would show CCP that that is not the way that most people want to go. In addition, I later go on to discuss reasons for why I have put this.

I can understand the idea of our progress being somewhat daunting in the eyes of brand new players on the new platform, but I think we can also agree that gear doesn't save people bad at using it from being bad.

This is a game about being in for the long haul, and forcing everyone to start over would remove most of the investment we've all made in the game.

True, from what I have read everyone would prefer to have the everything changed over. I also think that CCP really needs to work on matchmaking before it can be ported as not to deter npe, as this is the main concern I have (as I am sure others are concered as well) regarding the transfer of everything and the keeping of the newer playerbase.

We have seen a tremendous amount of support from our community in helping new players. I sincerely hope that this will continue

why Dust should not be ported to PS4

because PC is better and doesn't have the restrictions that consoles have its also cheaper to build a pc then to have to buy a whole other console just to play Dust, also warframe and planet side 2 look better on PC so thats bs of an argument if you want to use it

CCP needs to keep their games on PC so everyone can have easy access to all their games

If the pc you use is cheaper than a ps4 i can guarantee ps2 and warframe dont look better on it.

You're using a laptop to game. There's the reason why you have to run such low graphics. You're using integrated technology and you probably overheat a lot with no liquid cooling system. That is some bad JUJU my friend.

Heat problems aren't an issue, and I'm well aware of how a desktop is better for gaming.

I was trying to use myself as an example of how going cheap on hardware just screws you over in terms of performance. The cost-benefit analysis is far simpler when you purchase a console.

I'm saying this as someone who plays games on both.

I only assumed the overheating would be an issue. I paid roughly $900 for my laptop with a core i7 processor and even running eve or wow, or any other game for that matter on low graphics, it gets super hot even with an external usb fan. The fan helps a little but i still experience some issues with overheat.

There a few ways to look at the situation at hand.

Yes, the player base MIGHT increase if/when CCP takes this game to PC. On the other hand, they will lose a great number of loyal players if they do this. Basically, they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. A very large portion of the people who have stopped playing dust to begin with, have stopped because they moved to the next gen console. That being said, moving Dust to PS4 would also increase their player base because, lets face it; there are not many games for PS4 to begin with.

The problem with this is that there are some serious issues that need to be fixed before porting can even happen, as I am sure someone somewhere on this topic has stated.

Another thing to take into consideration is that there are only a few people that play Dust and are EVE players. In reality, (speaking as someone who actually plays EVE) the ones who do play both games waste so much time and money trying to run them in tandem. Point blank, 99% of EVE players don't give a rat's ass about Dust or the Dust community. So it would essentially be a no brainier to continue their beta testing of this grander scheme idea on a PS4 console. Then at least they have the ability to either decide to keep it there, or wipe it when they have perfected it as a PC game.

It's no secret that CCP has admitted to being more comfortable with PC game designing, but considering their limitations with software/hardware/and networking, they aren't doing too bad with this FREE TO PLAY game. Dust is a 100% unfinished product and I think people tend to forget that when they play. It's actually a decent game, yeah it's buggy as hell, but you aren't paying unless you CHOOSE to pay.

In spite of everything, I think CCP wouldn't be stupid enough to knock everyone back to noob status, especially those who have actually funded them and made it possible for them to make the changes they have made in the first place. What other game devs really let you be apart of their WHOLE dev process. They are taking the route every developer should by testing capacities and structures over a server. The game has so much potential and eventually they'll figure it all out.

Obviously with a low-end desktop you still have more than enough airflow to prevent overheating, but the issue of having to do a lot of messing with settings to get playable framerates still remains.

Part of why many people decide they don't want to deal with that.