My thoughts aren't always the most coherent.


When I mentioned cloaks I meant this should be like the cloak. Others can technically use it, but not like a scout.

I want the bandwidth high enough that you can't scatter much with one on at pro, and nothing else at lower levels.
(keeping bandwidth-less equipment in mind this is not a big setback) One or the other, or being mediocre at both.

Also, with that high bandwidth, it will still be equipable/usable by suits with not enough bandwidth
Lore; Bandwidth is in use keeping jump stream open. idk
But the cost keeps one from using other items that deploy.


Example: Jonny Newberry has his callogi at adv and his crupack at pro. He can indeed put a pro crupack on his std logi and goto town. However, costs and requirements keep him from being a litter-logi, and also from fitting crazy tank.

This makes a few new classes of logi / gives logis more than just "fit one of each and brick out"

Glad to see this topic come back. o7

Discuss

I like the idea of the capacitor that limits how many can spawn in on a particular level. This would give a reason to use higher rated backpacks.

The capacitor could have a set recharge time of 30 seconds/ 45 seconds or something like that so after my adv. uplink backpack has 7 clones spawn in, it becomes inoperable for 30 seconds while it "refills" and then an additional 7 can spawn in..

I do think, if that was implemented, it should have something like a recharge where, if no one spawns in for so many seconds, that limit slowly refills (like 1 clone added up to max for every 15 seconds there is no spawn on it. If I have 3 spawns left, and no one spawns on me for 45 seconds, I have 6. It is just like reloading a 1/2 empty magazine.)

However, I don't agree with not being able to use a weapon. This does nothing to take away from visibility. In fact, with some of the suggestions, we would have greater visibility because it would increase our scan profile. By not allowing someone to use a weapon (by extention a rep tool, nanite injector, scanner or swapping to anything else) is too excessive and too much of a penalty. They need to be able to do other things besides be a moving target and spawn point. Even a MCRU on a dropship can defend itself, right?

I also don't agree with the 0 bandwidth. A sentinel should not be allowed to also be a mobile spawn point. I also don't like the idea of assaults or scouts running around with this ability. If they put it at 16, a proto assault or any logi can use it. That is a solid baseline in my opinion.

Good ideas and solid imput overall. Thanks for the ideas.

Lol,i'm glad you thoroughly read,and didn't just post nonchalantly about sentinels carrying equipment.

Especially since they can't.

I did specifically say "consumes 1 equipment slot".

As for assaults and scouts,i'm taking into consideration WP as a whole.

Logis can carry it easily,then some.

Assaults will be using their one and only equipment slot.

And scouts can enable sneak attacks on enemies caught unawares.


As for not firing back...
The ability to instantly spawn in up to 10 allies compensates for that.

Unlike links,the pack can spawn multiple allies at once,until the capacitor is extinguished.
No timer,no waiting.

That sounds like a fair trade to me.

.... I turn this on, 5 heavies 2, assaults, 2 logis, a scout, and a partridge and a pear tree spawn in within 2 seconds.....

This is precisely what Kain was talking about and got me onboard with it.

With a bit of tuning this could get rid of the issue of uplink spam, an issue I really, really dispise.

I read the 1 equipment slot and had a DERP moment with Sentinels. LOL. Good call.

I'm not totally opposed to allowing other suits to use it. I am just worried about the balance aspect of it and wanting to ensure we aren't giving one suit too many different positives.

As for the not firing back/ I guess I wasn't thinking "insta-spawn". I was thinking that when someone clicks on "you" technically, there is a countdown timer for them like an uplink or other spawn point, (be it 5, 7, 10 seconds). The ability to flip it on, have 3 squad mates or 9 teammates insta spawn on you, then turn it off seems excessive. If it WERE, insta-spawn, then by all means don't allow the operator to fire a weapon. If this is ever considered, I would want them to do extensive testing of that. 1 Proto backpack at the right time can completely flip a whole battle. Imagine the train track map with the point in the facility on Dom. I am able to get onto the walkway above the point. I turn this on, 5 heavies 2, assaults, 2 logis, a scout, and a partridge and a pear tree spawn in within 2 seconds, that is going to be such a huge advantage that I can't see how to balance it out with negativity. Even an ewar profile of 100 while it's on won't help because before someone can react and try and come after you, there are 10 people next to you pushing back.

Made me lol so hard


Seriously, it has to be UP and tweaked up, or it will be stupid OP.

.... I turn this on, 5 heavies 2, assaults, 2 logis, a scout, and alan partridge and a pear tree spawn in within 2 seconds.....

Again tying spawning to an actual merc on the field has way more drawbacks than a fire-and-forget spawn pad that gets thrown in every nook and cranny.

Again, it seems that the argument isn't whether or not the mechanic should exist, but more about the particulars of the form it would take.

So far I like it as a non-handheld, high bandwidth, high cost pg cpu, logi specialty item.

I would like to see other classes use it, but badly compared to any tier logi. ( cost reduction and spawn time modifiers to role skills )

I like it as a sprinkle or wear option, with adv/pro logi being able to at least toss a few hives maybe one or two links.
( more for crupack fallback spawn than anything )

I really prefer it to be a mobile cru timing, one at a time, thing than having one guy turn into a whole team. Bad enough the first to spawn on a scout with one crammed on it will always be a heavy.
(PC......)

Please god no sound. If we must... make it a soft soothing yet recognizable one. Please.

I'd like to see required resources keep the user from becoming a 1000 ehp uplink that can jump... ( no amount of flux will stop that roof party )

And more than anything, I'd like to see the lore be a 5th party like ORE or something that manufactures it.

Uplinks - limited spawn count, static deployment, available for whole team.

CRU Backpack - unlimited spawns tempered by longer spawn time modifier, carried by logis, available for squads that logi deploys with, similar to squad deploy from Battlefield series.

If it was for squads only, the incentive to run it is really diminished, especially in Pubs. Logis use equipment (for the most part) to help their team and gain WP. If only 3 people can use it, I would suspect people will choose other pieces of equopment that can assist the whole team instead of 3 people.

I run solo a lot aince I am also normally watching my daughter. I would NEVER be able to use this piece of equipment.

Feel free to join my pub chat, its on my CPM post. We're extremely casual and fine with random breaks. Give us a chance to bounce ideas real-time and assemble one mean post.

Isn't there a glitch that does this already? I swear I've seen an Uplink stick to a merc before.

You are exactly right. It has become far more rare but it still happens. Nothing is more fun than running around with a link on your back meaning you always have reinforcements. I would venture into the area of calling it a little OP but if it were function and not a glitch balancing would come into play.

I'm just afraid for it to be a reality, and be super OP upon release, then get nerfed into uselessness.

I would want the weaker to have some sort of indicator, so reds know to target him.