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VAHZZ
The Nerf Herders
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Posted - 2015.06.05 07:53:00 -
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AlienWare is making a console, a Steam console, that plays PC games in the steam library. It is coming out with a controller specifically designed for it and looks similar to the Xbox controller. It plays every game in the Steam Library, barring some, so if DUST gets ported to the PC and is set on Steam just like EVE Online, you can use the Steam Machine to play DUST like we are now. PS4 JUST BECAME ******* IRRELEVANT BITCHES.
"I bring nothing, I bless nothing, I save nothing; I just erase; completely, shatter."
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.06.05 08:39:00 -
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ouch my brain, that was painful to read...
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.06.05 10:49:00 -
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Yes, cause playing Dust or Steam games is the only reasons anyone would ever buy a PS4.... 
Spkr4theDead wrote:
Says the guy that was quitting the game because CCP were nerfing fused locus grenades.
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Scotty AI MatchMaker
The Templis Dragonaurs
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.06.05 11:02:00 -
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99.9% of steam games are toss compared to most PS4 titles (EA GAMES EXCLUDED)
'There is an art to dying, but its a dying art.'
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
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Posted - 2015.06.05 11:12:00 -
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Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote:99.9% of steam games are toss compared to most PS4 titles (EA GAMES EXCLUDED)
You lie! Goat Simulater is best simulater!
Give me my Plasma Flamethrower or give me a cookie!
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Raven Harkonen
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2015.06.05 11:19:00 -
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PS4 = arround 350Gé¼
PC (a good one graphism, durability, ect...)= 600Gé¼ minimum if you know good places to buy...
Major argument...
~Un membre rond n'est pas fait pour un trou ovale!~
~A round member is not made for an oval hole!~
Marquis de Sade
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
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Posted - 2015.06.05 11:25:00 -
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Raven Harkonen wrote:PS4 = arround 350Gé¼
PC (a good one graphism, durability, ect...)= 600Gé¼ minimum if you know good places to buy...
Major argument...
Disclaimer: Prices are drastically different in different countries.
PS4 Brand new from EB Games in NZ (at least my town) is almost $600.
Give me my Plasma Flamethrower or give me a cookie!
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2015.06.05 11:31:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:AlienWare is making a console, a Steam console, that plays PC games in the steam library. It is coming out with a controller specifically designed for it and looks similar to the Xbox controller. It plays every game in the Steam Library, barring some, so if DUST gets ported to the PC and is set on Steam just like EVE Online, you can use the Steam Machine to play DUST like we are now. PS4 JUST BECAME ******* IRRELEVANT BITCHES.
the alienware computer is not a console. it is a regular PC with cramped peripherals and SteamOS as operating system. you could aswell install windows on it and do work.
Raven Harkonen wrote:PS4 = arround 350Gé¼
PC (a good one graphism, durability, ect...)= 600Gé¼ minimum if you know good places to buy...
Major argument...
PC also consumes 350 watt while gaming with latest stuff, more if cheap stuff
PS4 consumes 120 watt while gaming
there are plenty of people that play 5 hours a day, that is almost 100 euro extra per year for your electricity bill, that adds up additionally to the PCs cost. |
Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.05 11:34:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Raven Harkonen wrote:PS4 = arround 350Gé¼
PC (a good one graphism, durability, ect...)= 600Gé¼ minimum if you know good places to buy...
Major argument... PC also consumes 350 watt while gaming with latest stuff, more if cheap stuff PS4 consumes 120 watt while gaming there are plenty of people that play 5 hours a day, that is almost 100 euro extra per year for your electricity bill, that adds up additionally to the PCs cost.
I honestly hadn't even thought of that. Damn.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.05 13:31:00 -
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I always have a good PC and will prolly set up a steam box someday...maybe.
But my motiviation for wanting to see Dust on PS4 is that hacking/botting becomes that much harder and has repercussions outside of Dust.
We already know that peeps will cheat the kittenfuck out of this game and if we can't promise the EVE alliances that battles are immune to being influenced by bot-inspired losses of important EVE-Dust joint operations then they will simply dismiss Dust as irrelevant.
Worse still, if hacked/botted battles were to become a topic of conversation, the EVE playerbase would prolly revolt and demand Dust be disconnected from EVE, or be made trivial and harmless: y'know, like we are now.
That's why PS4.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.06.05 13:56:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:I always have a good PC and will prolly set up a steam box someday...maybe.
But my motiviation for wanting to see Dust on PS4 is that hacking/botting becomes that much harder and has repercussions outside of Dust.
We already know that peeps will cheat the kittenfuck out of this game and if we can't promise the EVE alliances that battles are immune to being influenced by bot-inspired losses of important EVE-Dust joint operations then they will simply dismiss Dust as irrelevant.
Worse still, if hacked/botted battles were to become a topic of conversation, the EVE playerbase would prolly revolt and demand Dust be disconnected from EVE, or be made trivial and harmless: y'know, like we are now.
That's why PS4. Oh goodness. This argument again. As consoles try harder and harder to become PCs, they fall prey to the same problems. If someone wants to hack a PS4 to cheat they simply will. The reason we hear more about the PC cheating problem is due to more people playing PCs vs. Xbox One/PS4.
Reporting cheaters and CCP having the staffing to handle those reports are the solution to this problem blown out of proportion. Eventually, if Dust turns a profit like I believe it will on PC, they can start up a Dust-version of Team Security. For those unaware, Team Security handles cheating/botting issues in Eve: Online.
@Ripley_Riley
"I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2015.06.05 14:30:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:I always have a good PC and will prolly set up a steam box someday...maybe.
But my motiviation for wanting to see Dust on PS4 is that hacking/botting becomes that much harder and has repercussions outside of Dust.
We already know that peeps will cheat the kittenfuck out of this game and if we can't promise the EVE alliances that battles are immune to being influenced by bot-inspired losses of important EVE-Dust joint operations then they will simply dismiss Dust as irrelevant.
Worse still, if hacked/botted battles were to become a topic of conversation, the EVE playerbase would prolly revolt and demand Dust be disconnected from EVE, or be made trivial and harmless: y'know, like we are now.
That's why PS4. Oh goodness. This argument again. As consoles try harder and harder to become PCs, they fall prey to the same problems. If someone wants to hack a PS4 to cheat they simply will. The reason we hear more about the PC cheating problem is due to more people playing PCs vs. Xbox One/PS4. Reporting cheaters and CCP having the staffing to handle those reports are the solution to this problem blown out of proportion. Eventually, if Dust turns a profit like I believe it will on PC, they can start up a Dust-version of Team Security. For those unaware, Team Security handles cheating/botting issues in Eve: Online.
you can only cheat on the playstion if developer actually allows to copy paste saves and game files (like some stupid devs allowed on ps3) from drive to pc and vice versa and then use it in multiplayer battles as host.
manipulating data and bots are not possible to do on ps4 either, for that you would require to be able to run such software on the ps4 simultanously while playing the game which again is no way. |
Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.05 15:01:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:I always have a good PC and will prolly set up a steam box someday...maybe.
But my motiviation for wanting to see Dust on PS4 is that hacking/botting becomes that much harder and has repercussions outside of Dust.
We already know that peeps will cheat the kittenfuck out of this game and if we can't promise the EVE alliances that battles are immune to being influenced by bot-inspired losses of important EVE-Dust joint operations then they will simply dismiss Dust as irrelevant.
Worse still, if hacked/botted battles were to become a topic of conversation, the EVE playerbase would prolly revolt and demand Dust be disconnected from EVE, or be made trivial and harmless: y'know, like we are now.
That's why PS4. Oh goodness. This argument again. As consoles try harder and harder to become PCs, they fall prey to the same problems. If someone wants to hack a PS4 to cheat they simply will. The reason we hear more about the PC cheating problem is due to more people playing PCs vs. Xbox One/PS4. Reporting cheaters and CCP having the staffing to handle those reports are the solution to this problem blown out of proportion. Eventually, if Dust turns a profit like I believe it will on PC, they can start up a Dust-version of Team Security. For those unaware, Team Security handles cheating/botting issues in Eve: Online. you can only cheat on the playstion if developer actually allows to copy paste saves and game files (like some stupid devs allowed on ps3) from drive to pc and vice versa and then use it in multiplayer battles as host. manipulating data and bots are not possible to do on ps4 either, for that you would require to be able to run such software on the ps4 simultanously while playing the game which again is no way.
Thank you. This is pretty basic stuff but peeps still struggle with it. The other part of the deterrent effect of PS4 is that there's more at stake than just your Dust account, hence a bigger pita for cheaters who get caught.
PSN: RationalSpark
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.06.05 15:21:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:VAHZZ wrote:AlienWare is making a console, a Steam console, that plays PC games in the steam library. It is coming out with a controller specifically designed for it and looks similar to the Xbox controller. It plays every game in the Steam Library, barring some, so if DUST gets ported to the PC and is set on Steam just like EVE Online, you can use the Steam Machine to play DUST like we are now. PS4 JUST BECAME ******* IRRELEVANT BITCHES. the alienware computer is not a console. it is a regular PC with cramped peripherals and SteamOS as operating system. you could aswell install windows on it and do work. Raven Harkonen wrote:PS4 = arround 350Gé¼
PC (a good one graphism, durability, ect...)= 600Gé¼ minimum if you know good places to buy...
Major argument... PC also consumes 350 watt while gaming with latest stuff, more if cheap stuff PS4 consumes 120 watt while gaming there are plenty of people that play 5 hours a day, that is almost 100 euro extra per year for your electricity bill, that adds up additionally to the PCs cost.
pssshhh I am using 10 times that much when you include my 4k tv as a monitor playing youtube and the other 24 inch monitors which form a giant panoramic view in 1080p at a stable 60 fps.
I am glad I would never be able to do anything even remotely close to this on a console that after a few extras is going to cost me close to a thousand dollars.
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richiesutie 2
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.06.05 15:34:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Raven Harkonen wrote:PS4 = arround 350Gé¼
PC (a good one graphism, durability, ect...)= 600Gé¼ minimum if you know good places to buy...
Major argument... Disclaimer: Prices are drastically different in different countries. PS4 Brand new from EB Games in NZ (at least my town) is almost $600.
Disclaimer:
600 nz dollars = 380 euros
A WHOLE 30 EUROS MORE THIS IS DISGRACEFUL
compilation of Patch/build notes
Check it out! :)
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emm kay
Direct Action Resources
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Posted - 2015.06.05 15:40:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:AlienWare is making a console, a Steam console, that plays PC games in the steam library. It is coming out with a controller specifically designed for it and looks similar to the Xbox controller. It plays every game in the Steam Library, barring some, so if DUST gets ported to the PC and is set on Steam just like EVE Online, you can use the Steam Machine to play DUST like we are now. PS4 JUST BECAME ******* IRRELEVANT BITCHES.
I've always wondered what it feels like to put money in a paper shredder for Cheez-its.
Guess I have an Idea now.
There is a reason you never see me in battle.
it's because I see you first.
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Leither Yiltron
Molon Labe.
RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.06.05 15:42:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:AlienWare is making a console
Ahahahaha
Oh, you were serious?
Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
742
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Posted - 2015.06.05 15:42:00 -
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You must be new here. In fact, you must be new at life. No one in their right mind buys Alienware unless you're some dummy with plenty of money and thinks Big Bang Theory is hilarious dude.
So no. I will build my PC bro. Much better. And the war won't end until it actually happen.
Your advice is useless scrub but good to wipe sweaty stripper coochie with.
Saying what's on people's minds
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.06.05 15:45:00 -
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Hey don't worry PS4 fans. Sony is expected to announce a ps4 slim with a SSD and no blu ray drive so that developers MIGHT be able to hold 60fps @ 1080p.
I will not lie the things I have been hearing about programming for the PS4 make me think that it may just be what CCP needs to go with.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.06.05 15:52:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:You must be new here. In fact, you must be new at life. No one in their right mind buys Alienware unless you're some dummy with plenty of money and thinks Big Bang Theory is hilarious dude.
So no. I will build my PC bro. Much better. And the war won't end until it actually happen.
Your advice is useless scrub but good to wipe sweaty stripper coochie with.
They are actually fairly nice boxes at an affordable price.
What I love about them is the fact that finally something is being done to bring console gamers over to PC games and finally unite us under the master race as was intended. Just for this fact I will be heavily cheering on the growth of these steam consoles even tho I do not have one and do not plan on having one.
Once the next wave comes out which should also have support for upgrading the GPU as needed I think sony and microsoft are going to get into a bit of hot water. This is why microsoft is already developing cross platform stuff with windows 10 in preparation of having to fight this threat.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.06.05 15:58:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:You must be new here. In fact, you must be new at life. No one in their right mind buys Alienware unless you're some dummy with plenty of money and thinks Big Bang Theory is hilarious dude.
*laugh track*
*joke about Lord of the Rings*
*another laugh track*
"Ziboomple"
@Ripley_Riley
"I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:10:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:You must be new here. In fact, you must be new at life. No one in their right mind buys Alienware unless you're some dummy with plenty of money and thinks Big Bang Theory is hilarious dude.
So no. I will build my PC bro. Much better. And the war won't end until it actually happen.
Your advice is useless scrub but good to wipe sweaty stripper coochie with. They are actually fairly nice boxes at an affordable price. What I love about them is the fact that finally something is being done to bring console gamers over to PC games and finally unite us under the master race as was intended. Just for this fact I will be heavily cheering on the growth of these steam consoles even tho I do not have one and do not plan on having one. Once the next wave comes out which should also have support for upgrading the GPU as needed I think sony and microsoft are going to get into a bit of hot water. This is why microsoft is already developing cross platform stuff with windows 10 in preparation of having to fight this threat.
I wonder bro, can it actually happen? I know Steam is awesome (and certainly is!). But Alienware??? Dell's expensive gaming PC division? Consoles fanboys are DEDICATED to consoles. You would think they are secretly Sony or MS super agents.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
744
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Posted - 2015.06.05 17:12:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:You must be new here. In fact, you must be new at life. No one in their right mind buys Alienware unless you're some dummy with plenty of money and thinks Big Bang Theory is hilarious dude. *laugh track* *joke about Lord of the Rings* *another laugh track* "Ziboomple"
Its terrible man. I tried watching a couple of episodes. I didn't laugh once, except when I put a treat in the middle of my dog's back and watched his head move around frantically to get to it.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.06.05 19:52:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Raven Harkonen wrote:PS4 = arround 350Gé¼
PC (a good one graphism, durability, ect...)= 600Gé¼ minimum if you know good places to buy...
Major argument... PC also consumes 350 watt while gaming with latest stuff, more if cheap stuff PS4 consumes 120 watt while gaming there are plenty of people that play 5 hours a day, that is almost 100 euro extra per year for your electricity bill, that adds up additionally to the PCs cost. I honestly hadn't even thought of that. Damn.
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.06.05 19:57:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:AlienWare is making a console, a Steam console, that plays PC games in the steam library. It is coming out with a controller specifically designed for it and looks similar to the Xbox controller. It plays every game in the Steam Library, barring some, so if DUST gets ported to the PC and is set on Steam just like EVE Online, you can use the Steam Machine to play DUST like we are now. PS4 JUST BECAME ******* IRRELEVANT BITCHES.
It can also use Xbox controllers FYI but so can my laptop which is more powerful than this device..but with windows 10 being able to play Xbox games what's the point of buying this device when it doesn't use windows?
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Vlad Rostok
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.05 20:02:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Raven Harkonen wrote:PS4 = arround 350Gé¼
PC (a good one graphism, durability, ect...)= 600Gé¼ minimum if you know good places to buy...
Major argument... PC also consumes 350 watt while gaming with latest stuff, more if cheap stuff PS4 consumes 120 watt while gaming there are plenty of people that play 5 hours a day, that is almost 100 euro extra per year for your electricity bill, that adds up additionally to the PCs cost. I honestly hadn't even thought of that. Damn. 350 watts? Damn, that's low!
Yeah, last PC I built in early 2014 has an 850 watt power supply. And I leave that powered on all the time. I don't notice the blip in my power bill, but that could be because it's masked by the A/C. |
Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.05 20:15:00 -
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Vlad Rostok wrote:Joel II X wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Raven Harkonen wrote:PS4 = arround 350Gé¼
PC (a good one graphism, durability, ect...)= 600Gé¼ minimum if you know good places to buy...
Major argument... PC also consumes 350 watt while gaming with latest stuff, more if cheap stuff PS4 consumes 120 watt while gaming there are plenty of people that play 5 hours a day, that is almost 100 euro extra per year for your electricity bill, that adds up additionally to the PCs cost. I honestly hadn't even thought of that. Damn. 350 watts? Damn, that's low! Yeah, last PC I built in early 2014 has an 850 watt power supply. And I leave that powered on all the time. I don't notice the blip in my power bill, but that could be because it's masked by the A/C.
Just because you have an 850 watt power supply doesn't mean the system is always drawing that amount.
Your power supply can usually supply 200W more than the max your system could ever need, judging by most builds I see and build.
Plus having it plugged in 24/7 doesn't matter as much as if you're playing, because all modern computers and consoles have variable power draw depending on the intensity of their work, because the components inside underclock themselves to draw less power when not needed.
As a sidenote, Sony is apparently coming out with a new PS4 with 1TB drive, AND lower power draw. 20 Watts less IIRC?
Which would be cutting off 1/6th of the power draw from the console.
"To find out if they consent, poke the giant boobs. If they jiggle once, that means no. If twice, that means yes" - Anon
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Kaze Eyrou
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2015.06.05 20:34:00 -
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I love how the title of this thread is "ending the argument" but instead of doing so, it just ramped it up yet again.
I will say I am glad the conversation of power draw came up. I know that the PS3 draws some serious power so if the PS4 has very minimal power draw, that would make me happy camper.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.06.05 20:38:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:I will say I am glad the conversation of power draw came up. I know that the PS3 draws some serious power so if the PS4 has very minimal power draw, that would make me happy camper. Newer consoles and PCs draw only the power they need to run, with a minimum of around 200- 250W. So really the power draw will be dependent on how GPU/CPU intensive Dust x86 is.
@Ripley_Riley
"I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.05 20:39:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:I love how the title of this thread is "ending the argument" but instead of doing so, it just ramped it up yet again.
I will say I am glad the conversation of power draw came up. I know that the PS3 draws some serious power so if the PS4 has very minimal power draw, that would make me happy camper.
PS3 Super slim draws 190W.
PS4 on standby draws 10W, and while playing a game like Killzone has a draw of around 150W.
The power supply on the PS4 can do a maximum of 250 W, though it never actually reaches that.
"To find out if they consent, poke the giant boobs. If they jiggle once, that means no. If twice, that means yes" - Anon
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.06.05 21:27:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:I love how the title of this thread is "ending the argument" but instead of doing so, it just ramped it up yet again.
I will say I am glad the conversation of power draw came up. I know that the PS3 draws some serious power so if the PS4 has very minimal power draw, that would make me happy camper. PS3 Super slim draws 190W. PS4 on standby draws 10W, and while playing a game like Killzone has a draw of around 150W. The power supply on the PS4 can do a maximum of 250 W, though it never actually reaches that.
why...
what is to be gained here, who cares?
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll hurt you.
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.06.05 21:54:00 -
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....I'm posting on these forums when I go to build my PC, you people are too smart. Anyone want to actually post some with prices now? If I made 1000 dollars this summer, could I get a decent build?
"There are no rights. The world owes no one a living."-Sumner
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.05 21:59:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:I love how the title of this thread is "ending the argument" but instead of doing so, it just ramped it up yet again.
I will say I am glad the conversation of power draw came up. I know that the PS3 draws some serious power so if the PS4 has very minimal power draw, that would make me happy camper. PS3 Super slim draws 190W. PS4 on standby draws 10W, and while playing a game like Killzone has a draw of around 150W. The power supply on the PS4 can do a maximum of 250 W, though it never actually reaches that. why... what is to be gained here, who cares?
Your lack of curiosity doesn't stop other people from being curious and learning.
"To find out if they consent, poke the giant boobs. If they jiggle once, that means no. If twice, that means yes" - Anon
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.06.05 22:20:00 -
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501st Headstrong wrote:....I'm posting on these forums when I go to build my PC, you people are too smart. Anyone want to actually post some with prices now? If I made 1000 dollars this summer, could I get a decent build? PC parts get cheaper every year. Back in the 90's a decent gaming PC would run you $1,000 or more. You can make a damn decent PC for much less now.
Check out the 'Next Gen Crusher' build on this link. Total cost of $450. I highly recommend this build.
If you are dead set on spending $1,000 then look at 'The End-All' build just a little farther down the page. Total cost of $900 I believe.
@Ripley_Riley
"I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
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Vlad Rostok
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.05 22:41:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Vlad Rostok wrote:
Yeah, last PC I built in early 2014 has an 850 watt power supply. And I leave that powered on all the time. I don't notice the blip in my power bill, but that could be because it's masked by the A/C.
Just because you have an 850 watt power supply doesn't mean the system is always drawing that amount. Your power supply can usually supply 200W more than the max your system could ever need, judging by most builds I see and build. Plus having it plugged in 24/7 doesn't matter as much as if you're playing, because all modern computers and consoles have variable power draw depending on the intensity of their work, because the components inside underclock themselves to draw less power when not needed. As a sidenote, Sony is apparently coming out with a new PS4 with 1TB drive, AND lower power draw. 20 Watts less IIRC? Which would be cutting off 1/6th of the power draw from the console.
Agreed on the variability of the power draw. I only went large to be sure I had enough power for future peripherals.
I actually built the PC more for video processing and rendering. The only game it's had on it was EvE and I kicked that sociopath filled environment off of it once my year long test drive was up.
Sadly, I don't even use the PC that much; pay bills, watch some youtube, read e-mail. I usually have the PS3 monitor in front of the PC monitor most of the time.
Anywho, good discussion on hardware. I didn't know how much power the PS3 draws but it is clearly evident that it generates a lot of heat.
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Isa Lucifer
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
273
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Posted - 2015.06.05 22:50:00 -
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You all make me laugh so much. I love you all to death.
Amarr Victor
Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
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VAHZZ
The Nerf Herders
2
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Posted - 2015.06.05 23:11:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:I love how the title of this thread is "ending the argument" but instead of doing so, it just ramped it up yet again.
I will say I am glad the conversation of power draw came up. I know that the PS3 draws some serious power so if the PS4 has very minimal power draw, that would make me happy camper.
Shhh! You will let the nubs in on the secret. They must not know they are being fooled.
"I bring nothing, I bless nothing, I save nothing; I just erase; completely, shatter."
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
No Context
626
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Posted - 2015.06.05 23:42:00 -
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richiesutie 2 wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Raven Harkonen wrote:PS4 = arround 350Gé¼
PC (a good one graphism, durability, ect...)= 600Gé¼ minimum if you know good places to buy...
Major argument... Disclaimer: Prices are drastically different in different countries. PS4 Brand new from EB Games in NZ (at least my town) is almost $600. Disclaimer: 600 nz dollars = 380 euros A WHOLE 30 EUROS MORE THIS IS DISGRACEFUL
You can have a PC that performs better than a Ps4 for literally the same price. All you have to do is use Google. Why don't people research anymore?!
Click me
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davis fritz
Subsonic Synthesis
71
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Posted - 2015.06.05 23:56:00 -
[39] - Quote
Georgia Xavier wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Raven Harkonen wrote:PS4 = arround 350Gé¼
PC (a good one graphism, durability, ect...)= 600Gé¼ minimum if you know good places to buy...
Major argument... Disclaimer: Prices are drastically different in different countries. PS4 Brand new from EB Games in NZ (at least my town) is almost $600. Disclaimer: 600 nz dollars = 380 euros A WHOLE 30 EUROS MORE THIS IS DISGRACEFUL You can have a PC that performs better than a Ps4 for literally the same price. All you have to do is use Google. Why don't people research anymore?!
Financial considerations are not the reasons I don't play PC games
I fucking Love/Hate this game
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davis fritz
Subsonic Synthesis
71
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Posted - 2015.06.05 23:57:00 -
[40] - Quote
[quote=Kaze Eyrou]I love how the title of this thread is "ending the argument" but instead of doing so, it just ramped it up yet again.
And will continue until a decision/announcement is made
I fucking Love/Hate this game
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VAHZZ
The Nerf Herders
2
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Posted - 2015.06.06 00:05:00 -
[41] - Quote
davis fritz wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Raven Harkonen wrote:PS4 = arround 350Gé¼
PC (a good one graphism, durability, ect...)= 600Gé¼ minimum if you know good places to buy...
Major argument... Disclaimer: Prices are drastically different in different countries. PS4 Brand new from EB Games in NZ (at least my town) is almost $600. Disclaimer: 600 nz dollars = 380 euros A WHOLE 30 EUROS MORE THIS IS DISGRACEFUL You can have a PC that performs better than a Ps4 for literally the same price. All you have to do is use Google. Why don't people research anymore?! Financial considerations are not the reasons I don't play PC games
If it is because KB/M, you do know they have controllers and you can sync your Ps3/Ps4/Xbox360/Xbone controller up to your pc.
If not, and you are just a PC hater, be quiet scrub.
What reason do you have for hating PC games?
"I bring nothing, I bless nothing, I save nothing; I just erase; completely, shatter."
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davis fritz
Subsonic Synthesis
71
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Posted - 2015.06.06 00:08:00 -
[42] - Quote
The former. Really just used to controllers. But I am also a scrub, so you're correct there as well
I fucking Love/Hate this game
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davis fritz
Subsonic Synthesis
71
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Posted - 2015.06.06 00:12:00 -
[43] - Quote
I'm also not a fan of hacking/modding
I fucking Love/Hate this game
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deezy dabest
2
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Posted - 2015.06.06 00:38:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:You must be new here. In fact, you must be new at life. No one in their right mind buys Alienware unless you're some dummy with plenty of money and thinks Big Bang Theory is hilarious dude.
So no. I will build my PC bro. Much better. And the war won't end until it actually happen.
Your advice is useless scrub but good to wipe sweaty stripper coochie with. They are actually fairly nice boxes at an affordable price. What I love about them is the fact that finally something is being done to bring console gamers over to PC games and finally unite us under the master race as was intended. Just for this fact I will be heavily cheering on the growth of these steam consoles even tho I do not have one and do not plan on having one. Once the next wave comes out which should also have support for upgrading the GPU as needed I think sony and microsoft are going to get into a bit of hot water. This is why microsoft is already developing cross platform stuff with windows 10 in preparation of having to fight this threat. I wonder bro, can it actually happen? I know Steam is awesome (and certainly is!). But Alienware??? Dell's expensive gaming PC division? Consoles fanboys are DEDICATED to consoles. You would think they are secretly Sony or MS super agents.
While normally you are totally right about alienware they seem to be changing gears and accepting that they need to balance performance versus cost if they want to break into this market.
The kicker for console fanboys will be the fact that they can use any choose of thousands of different controllers including xbox and ps3 controllers as well as having access to more games than the consoles all combined.
They have also devoted a good amount of time to making the system look and feel just like a console.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9182719
The above system with windows 10 and cross play to xbox is going to make things SERIOUSLY interesting. The real loser in all of this stands to be Sony in my opinion but only time will tell.
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
1
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Posted - 2015.06.06 01:13:00 -
[45] - Quote
Or...
!--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust on both current Gen consoles--!
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2015.06.06 01:17:00 -
[46] - Quote
Talos Vagheitan wrote:Or...
It's a nice idea, but you're up against the wall of Microsoft.
I assume you were attempting to indicate your signature, hence my reply.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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deezy dabest
2
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Posted - 2015.06.06 01:51:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Talos Vagheitan wrote:Or... It's a nice idea, but you're up against the wall of Microsoft. I assume you were attempting to indicate your signature, hence my reply.
Yea I believe the original issue was that they are not going to allow outside servers. Even then windows 10 Xbox app only connects to the xbox servers as far as I can tell. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2015.06.08 09:17:00 -
[48] - Quote
Georgia Xavier wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Raven Harkonen wrote:PS4 = arround 350Gé¼
PC (a good one graphism, durability, ect...)= 600Gé¼ minimum if you know good places to buy...
Major argument... Disclaimer: Prices are drastically different in different countries. PS4 Brand new from EB Games in NZ (at least my town) is almost $600. Disclaimer: 600 nz dollars = 380 euros A WHOLE 30 EUROS MORE THIS IS DISGRACEFUL You can have a PC that performs better than a Ps4 for literally the same price. All you have to do is use Google. Why don't people research anymore?!
I would like to see that PC.
I can buy a PS4 for 350Gé¼ on amazon
the gpu is about as powerful as a 270x, thats atleast 150Gé¼, 180Gé¼ if you actually want a good one with better cooling solution.
~150 for CPU and cheap motherboard
and you are already at 330Gé¼
you still need RAM, cooler, case and power supply. your will be at ~450Gé¼. with compromises you could make it for 400Gé¼ but the PC will be ******, loud, get warm and have low ram. it also wont run at 120W under load like the PS4 and games will not run as well as dedicated PS4 games using the PS4 low level API. |
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