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Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.06.01 04:54:00 - [1] - Quote How does it work? I understand there are 4 independent empires, yet they all answer to CONCORD? Is there some type of multi -racial central government? !--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust on both current Gen consoles--!
SLENDER M4N Xer Cloud Consortium 525	Posted - 2015.06.01 05:06:00 - [2] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: How does it work? I understand there are 4 independent empires, yet they all answer to COCKORD? Is there some type of Interracial central government? FTFY, I kind of had to. The word racial was involved sooo Roman said he would give me candy, I recieved a rainbow trout from his fishing trips instead. Am disappoint
Planetside2B0mber Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 24	Posted - 2015.06.06 03:42:00 - [3] - Quote Planetside 2 Coming to PS4 June 23rd PS4 Beta footage with intense CQC action PS4 Beta footage with defense PS4 Beta Huge battle PS4 Beta another Huge battle with over 256 players PS4 Beta Huge 35 min Battle 1080p Ultra settings at Night Intense Open Field Battle 100 Man Infantry Objective Push Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle Intense Uphill Battle Open Desert Firefight 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air True Teamwork Galaxy Drops NC Montage Planetside 2 Machinima Why you should try Planetside 2
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1	Posted - 2015.06.06 03:46:00 - [4] - Quote CONCORD is like the Space U.N. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." http://royventus.tumblr.com
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.06 05:10:00 - [5] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: How does it work? I understand there are 4 independent empires, yet they all answer to CONCORD? Is there some type of multi -racial central government? No. All of the Empires are independent entities with their own internal and foreign policies, leaders, etc. The only thing keeping them peaceful at the moment that at present time no one side has enough power or strategic influence to decisively win a conflict against one of the others without significantly depleting their own military capacity. The Amarr Navy is considered the most largest and most powerful Navy in the cluster but its ships are relatively old in terms of design despite the Amarrian capacity to ingeniously produce new military technologies their power does not lie in engagements against technological equals instead in the suppression of a technologically inferior foe. The Caldari on the others hand have some of the most modern and advanced ships available but are few in number. CONCORD is also not truly an inter-empire peace keeping organisation. Initially it was founded by the Empires, most notably the Gallente and Amarr with some Caldari aid [the Amarr opposed the Minmatar Republic becoming a signatory state unwilling to recognize its sovereignty], however in the years since CONCORD has taken on a capsuleer policing role to ensure that High Sec is relatively safe to fly in. More recently with the Drifter threats appearing its taken on a more clandestine and suspect role since it considers the Drifters a minimal threat despite their appearance in the space of a signatory state, their seizure of several Scope Reporters for leaking footage of a Drifter fleet and structure in Worm Hole space to the public, and was savaged in one of their own core systems by a Drifter Fleet after a corpse was taken to autopsy. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
deezy dabest 2	Posted - 2015.06.06 05:27:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: How does it work? I understand there are 4 independent empires, yet they all answer to CONCORD? Is there some type of multi -racial central government? No. All of the Empires are independent entities with their own internal and foreign policies, leaders, etc. The only thing keeping them peaceful at the moment that at present time no one side has enough power or strategic influence to decisively win a conflict against one of the others without significantly depleting their own military capacity. The Amarr Navy is considered the most largest and most powerful Navy in the cluster but its ships are relatively old in terms of design despite the Amarrian capacity to ingeniously produce new military technologies their power does not lie in engagements against technological equals instead in the suppression of a technologically inferior foe. The Caldari on the others hand have some of the most modern and advanced ships available but are few in number. CONCORD is also not truly an inter-empire peace keeping organisation. Initially it was founded by the Empires, most notably the Gallente and Amarr with some Caldari aid [the Amarr opposed the Minmatar Republic becoming a signatory state unwilling to recognize its sovereignty], however in the years since CONCORD has taken on a capsuleer policing role to ensure that High Sec is relatively safe to fly in. More recently with the Drifter threats appearing its taken on a more clandestine and suspect role since it considers the Drifters a minimal threat despite their appearance in the space of a signatory state, their seizure of several Scope Reporters for leaking footage of a Drifter fleet and structure in Worm Hole space to the public, and was savaged in one of their own core systems by a Drifter Fleet after a corpse was taken to autopsy. I never really thought about it but you made me realize that New Eden really is just a big stale mate. This gives me new perspective on the theory crafting that was going on earlier in reference to the whole drifters thing.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.06 05:39:00 - [7] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: True Adamance wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: How does it work? I understand there are 4 independent empires, yet they all answer to CONCORD? Is there some type of multi -racial central government? No. All of the Empires are independent entities with their own internal and foreign policies, leaders, etc. The only thing keeping them peaceful at the moment that at present time no one side has enough power or strategic influence to decisively win a conflict against one of the others without significantly depleting their own military capacity. The Amarr Navy is considered the most largest and most powerful Navy in the cluster but its ships are relatively old in terms of design despite the Amarrian capacity to ingeniously produce new military technologies their power does not lie in engagements against technological equals instead in the suppression of a technologically inferior foe. The Caldari on the others hand have some of the most modern and advanced ships available but are few in number. CONCORD is also not truly an inter-empire peace keeping organisation. Initially it was founded by the Empires, most notably the Gallente and Amarr with some Caldari aid [the Amarr opposed the Minmatar Republic becoming a signatory state unwilling to recognize its sovereignty], however in the years since CONCORD has taken on a capsuleer policing role to ensure that High Sec is relatively safe to fly in. More recently with the Drifter threats appearing its taken on a more clandestine and suspect role since it considers the Drifters a minimal threat despite their appearance in the space of a signatory state, their seizure of several Scope Reporters for leaking footage of a Drifter fleet and structure in Worm Hole space to the public, and was savaged in one of their own core systems by a Drifter Fleet after a corpse was taken to autopsy. I never really thought about it but you made me realize that New Eden really is just a big stale mate. This gives me new perspective on the theory crafting that was going on earlier in reference to the whole drifters thing. The biggest danger with the current mind-set about the Drifter's appearance is that most players are rather gung-ho about seeing the either the Drifter's or the Amarrians begin hostilities with one another assuming that the Drifter's will win and annihilate the Empire. The other assumption these people make is that as soon as this happens the entire cluster will unite under one banner and see of these guys with CONCORD at their backs in some love filled circle jerk of justice..... this is doubt very much will happen with the Cluster losing its largest and arguably most powerful military force leaving the rest of them trying to support trillions of refugees from the Empire.......something no one can currently afford to do. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.06 05:52:00 - [8] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: How does it work? I understand there are 4 independent empires, yet they all answer to CONCORD? Is there some type of multi -racial central government? The capsuleers answer to concord. Though concord has become sort of like a 'united nations' of sorts and tries to prevent or resolve hostilities between empires (that involve immortals). Jovians = Never lost the majority of their technology, but they shy away from other empires because reasons. Amarr = Largest empire, they were the first to rediscover space flight and promptly went about conquering the stars, a lot of their aggression got smacked out of them by the jove. They have easily the largest number of ships in their fleet, but they run on older technology (amarr tend to prefer a 'tried and true' method). Gallente = Second largest empire, they are quite meddlesome and they essentially force themselves on other sovereign nations ("don't you want to be free and cultured?), they dragged the caldari kicking and screaming into the federation... where the caldari were a permanent minority and were outvoted by the gallente on everything concerning the caldari. They tend to consider their way to be the only right way, despite plenty of evidence otherwise. They also have a pretty staggeringly large military, but it can be bogged down by bureaucracy. Minmatar = Second smallest empire, they have a lot of issues within the republic which has caused some tribes to outright leave and tell the gallente to **** off, a vast majority of their population is still enslaved by the amarr. the republic itself tends to get along well with the gallente because they are a pet project of the gallente ("Oh no, how dare those amarr impinge upon others freedom). The actual military of the republic is somewhat small, but well suited to rapid response and hard hitting skirmishes... the military of the tribes that have left the republic is astonishingly large. Caldari = Smallest empire and the most militant, grew up on a harsh world where the group came before the individual and they had to fight damn hard to free themselves from the gallente who spent quite a bit of time looking down on them / dictating to them. Caldari are in a pragmatic alliance with the Amarr, but they really get along well with and respect the khanid. The caldari navy, despite being one of (if not the) smallest navies is arguably the strongest, running with incredibly advanced technology and supreme range, they tend to resort to a lot of fighters or to incredibly long range doctrines supported by massive amounts of electronic warfare - they have held their own against bigger and 'stronger' forces plenty of times. Each of the races is independently governed in their own style and manner, and all of them have a seat of representatives in the CONCORD agency to 'protect' themselves from the growing power of immortals. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.06 06:01:00 - [9] - Quote True Adamance wrote: deezy dabest wrote: True Adamance wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: How does it work? I understand there are 4 independent empires, yet they all answer to CONCORD? Is there some type of multi -racial central government? No. All of the Empires are independent entities with their own internal and foreign policies, leaders, etc. The only thing keeping them peaceful at the moment that at present time no one side has enough power or strategic influence to decisively win a conflict against one of the others without significantly depleting their own military capacity. The Amarr Navy is considered the most largest and most powerful Navy in the cluster but its ships are relatively old in terms of design despite the Amarrian capacity to ingeniously produce new military technologies their power does not lie in engagements against technological equals instead in the suppression of a technologically inferior foe. The Caldari on the others hand have some of the most modern and advanced ships available but are few in number. CONCORD is also not truly an inter-empire peace keeping organisation. Initially it was founded by the Empires, most notably the Gallente and Amarr with some Caldari aid [the Amarr opposed the Minmatar Republic becoming a signatory state unwilling to recognize its sovereignty], however in the years since CONCORD has taken on a capsuleer policing role to ensure that High Sec is relatively safe to fly in. More recently with the Drifter threats appearing its taken on a more clandestine and suspect role since it considers the Drifters a minimal threat despite their appearance in the space of a signatory state, their seizure of several Scope Reporters for leaking footage of a Drifter fleet and structure in Worm Hole space to the public, and was savaged in one of their own core systems by a Drifter Fleet after a corpse was taken to autopsy. I never really thought about it but you made me realize that New Eden really is just a big stale mate. This gives me new perspective on the theory crafting that was going on earlier in reference to the whole drifters thing. The biggest danger with the current mind-set about the Drifter's appearance is that most players are rather gung-ho about seeing the either the Drifter's or the Amarrians begin hostilities with one another assuming that the Drifter's will win and annihilate the Empire. The other assumption these people make is that as soon as this happens the entire cluster will unite under one banner and see of these guys with CONCORD at their backs in some love filled circle jerk of justice..... this is doubt very much will happen with the Cluster losing its largest and arguably most powerful military force leaving the rest of them trying to support trillions of refugees from the Empire.......something no one can currently afford to do. To add onto this, I imagine that the amarr would be incredibly reluctant to commit the navy to a true fight against the drifters as they remember all too well the humiliation that they suffered at the hands of the jove. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
deezy dabest 2	Posted - 2015.06.06 07:04:00 - [10] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: To add onto this, I imagine that the amarr would be incredibly reluctant to commit the navy to a true fight against the drifters as they remember all too well the humiliation that they suffered at the hands of the jove. The interesting thing there is that the Amarr have already released the Entosis shield tech to everyone from what I understand.

sir RAVEN WING 3	Posted - 2015.06.06 07:51:00 - [11] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: How does it work? I understand there are 4 independent empires, yet they all answer to CONCORD? Is there some type of multi -racial central government? The capsuleers answer to concord. Though concord has become sort of like a 'united nations' of sorts and tries to prevent or resolve hostilities between empires (that involve immortals). Jovians = Never lost the majority of their technology, but they shy away from other empires because reasons. Amarr = Largest empire, they were the first to rediscover space flight and promptly went about conquering the stars, a lot of their aggression got smacked out of them by the jove. They have easily the largest number of ships in their fleet, but they run on older technology (amarr tend to prefer a 'tried and true' method). Gallente = Second largest empire, they are quite meddlesome and they essentially force themselves on other sovereign nations ("don't you want to be free and cultured?), they dragged the caldari kicking and screaming into the federation... where the caldari were a permanent minority and were outvoted by the gallente on everything concerning the caldari. They tend to consider their way to be the only right way, despite plenty of evidence otherwise. They also have a pretty staggeringly large military, but it can be bogged down by bureaucracy. Minmatar = Second smallest empire, they have a lot of issues within the republic which has caused some tribes to outright leave and tell the gallente to **** off, a vast majority of their population is still enslaved by the amarr. the republic itself tends to get along well with the gallente because they are a pet project of the gallente ("Oh no, how dare those amarr impinge upon others freedom). The actual military of the republic is somewhat small, but well suited to rapid response and hard hitting skirmishes... the military of the tribes that have left the republic is astonishingly large. Caldari = Smallest empire and the most militant, grew up on a harsh world where the group came before the individual and they had to fight damn hard to free themselves from the gallente who spent quite a bit of time looking down on them / dictating to them. Caldari are in a pragmatic alliance with the Amarr, but they really get along well with and respect the khanid. The caldari navy, despite being one of (if not the) smallest navies is arguably the strongest, running with incredibly advanced technology and supreme range, they tend to resort to a lot of fighters or to incredibly long range doctrines supported by massive amounts of electronic warfare - they have held their own against bigger and 'stronger' forces plenty of times. Each of the races is independently governed in their own style and manner, and all of them have a seat of representatives in the CONCORD agency to 'protect' themselves from the growing power of immortals. This is biased as all hell. *Intaki - Civire* *Caldai State!* *"Democracy is lies of freedom. Anarchy is it's truth."*
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.06 08:00:00 - [12] - Quote ^Actually not really. http://freebooted.blogspot.nl/p/mark726s-eve-lore-guide.html Educate yourself please. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Robert Conway Concordiat Mercenaries 373	Posted - 2015.06.06 08:05:00 - [13] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: How does it work? I understand there are 4 independent empires, yet they all answer to CONCORD? Is there some type of multi -racial central government? The capsuleers answer to concord. Though concord has become sort of like a 'united nations' of sorts and tries to prevent or resolve hostilities between empires (that involve immortals). Jovians = Never lost the majority of their technology, but they shy away from other empires because reasons. Amarr = Largest empire, they were the first to rediscover space flight and promptly went about conquering the stars, a lot of their aggression got smacked out of them by the jove. They have easily the largest number of ships in their fleet, but they run on older technology (amarr tend to prefer a 'tried and true' method). Gallente = Second largest empire, they are quite meddlesome and they essentially force themselves on other sovereign nations ("don't you want to be free and cultured?), they dragged the caldari kicking and screaming into the federation... where the caldari were a permanent minority and were outvoted by the gallente on everything concerning the caldari. They tend to consider their way to be the only right way, despite plenty of evidence otherwise. They also have a pretty staggeringly large military, but it can be bogged down by bureaucracy. Minmatar = Second smallest empire, they have a lot of issues within the republic which has caused some tribes to outright leave and tell the gallente to **** off, a vast majority of their population is still enslaved by the amarr. the republic itself tends to get along well with the gallente because they are a pet project of the gallente ("Oh no, how dare those amarr impinge upon others freedom). The actual military of the republic is somewhat small, but well suited to rapid response and hard hitting skirmishes... the military of the tribes that have left the republic is astonishingly large. Caldari = Smallest empire and the most militant, grew up on a harsh world where the group came before the individual and they had to fight damn hard to free themselves from the gallente who spent quite a bit of time looking down on them / dictating to them. Caldari are in a pragmatic alliance with the Amarr, but they really get along well with and respect the khanid. The caldari navy, despite being one of (if not the) smallest navies is arguably the strongest, running with incredibly advanced technology and supreme range, they tend to resort to a lot of fighters or to incredibly long range doctrines supported by massive amounts of electronic warfare - they have held their own against bigger and 'stronger' forces plenty of times. Each of the races is independently governed in their own style and manner, and all of them have a seat of representatives in the CONCORD agency to 'protect' themselves from the growing power of immortals. This is biased as all hell. I was just going to say that. :p Yassavi Approved. -Aero Yassavi
sir RAVEN WING 3	Posted - 2015.06.06 08:18:00 - [14] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: ^Actually not really. http://freebooted.blogspot.nl/p/mark726s-eve-lore-guide.html Educate yourself please. Yes, it is. It is set in such a way that it makes the Gallente seem the bad guy of the universe, the Caldari look like good guys and so on and so forth. You can read through it and detect the bias. Robert detected it too, but I can not tell if it was from his own personal 'Pro-Gallente' bias or not. Finally, the fact you happen to be heavily biased does not help your case, even Sgt. Kirk has been without bias for longer than you. No offense. For the State. *Intaki - Civire* *Caldai State!* *"Democracy is lies of freedom. Anarchy is it's truth."*
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.06 08:21:00 - [15] - Quote All the factions are grey raven. The gallente do just as many horrible things in the name of 'freedom' as the amarr do in the name of religion. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Robert Conway Concordiat Mercenaries 373	Posted - 2015.06.06 08:30:00 - [16] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: ^Actually not really. http://freebooted.blogspot.nl/p/mark726s-eve-lore-guide.html Educate yourself please. Yes, it is. It is set in such a way that it makes the Gallente seem the bad guy of the universe, the Caldari look like good guys and so on and so forth. You can read through it and detect the bias. Robert detected it too, but I can not tell if it was from his own personal 'Pro-Gallente' bias or not. Finally, the fact you happen to be heavily biased does not help your case, even Sgt. Kirk has been without bias for longer than you. No offense. For the State. I am pro-gallante, but I have written lore for the Amarr and plan on doing some stories with possible Cal-Gal co-op. I leave the 100% bias to the die hard role players. Yassavi Approved. -Aero Yassavi
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.06.06 11:50:00 - [17] - Quote CONCORD is a police force tasked with keeping immortal capsuleers in check, monitoring and enforcing empire law and destroying capsuleers who feel that rule of law is beneath them. CONCORD more or less ignores "civilian" space traffic. The tarriffs and salvage, confiscated cargo and siezed ships form the bulk of CONCORD funding. CONCORD has been known to interfere with empire interests. CONCORD does not have power of enforcement for or against any empire faction. CONCORD still draws a lot of its funding from the seemingly bottomless coffers of the Amarr empire. Each empire faction has an "ambassador" on the CONCORD control board of directors (whatever the hell they call themselves). It is not in CONCORD's benefit to have an empire achieve supremacy. Therefore a lot of tech balance clandestinely transfers between concord to over matched factions. CONCORD tried to kill the immortal merc program in it's infancy and failed. CONCORD officially classifies mercs as "equipment" for logistical tracking and control. This has been cited in the past as the reason for comparatively poor payouts per match. CONCORD is being overwhelmed, and is having a harder and harder time controlling the capsuleer activities In the cluster. Too many immortals have built failsafe clone facilities in places CONCORD can neither regulate, nor control. The sheer amount of mass murder occurring in hisec by capsuleers is beyond comprehension. CONCORD can only retaliate on behalf of the victims, and frequently cannot save otherwise peaceful ships under sudden attack. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.06 13:09:00 - [18] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: All the factions are grey raven. The gallente do just as many horrible things in the name of 'freedom' as the amarr do in the name of religion. More or less correct in terms of in game lore. The Gallente are an incredibly meddlesome Empire. They on a fundamental level are very open about what they desire [aka a cultural take over of the Caldari State] using the claim that they are defending the rights of the Caldari citizenry. More or less the only reason one could consider the Gallenteans a faction worth detracting from is that they are a subtly imperialist society, very much so pro-freedom, but none the less flawed a self serving entity rife with corruption serving to the well connected individual . I don't think its wrong to suggest the Gallenteans are a morally grey people because by their very nature they are both openly democratic but at the same time conservative to the point of dictatorial behind a thin fa+ºade. At the same time I don't think it poor taste to laud the values of the State or the Empire which thrive on social order and control. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 6	Posted - 2015.06.06 13:51:00 - [19] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: All the factions are grey raven. The gallente do just as many horrible things in the name of 'freedom' as the amarr do in the name of religion. More or less correct in terms of in game lore. The Gallente are an incredibly meddlesome Empire. They on a fundamental level are very open about what they desire [aka a cultural take over of the Caldari State] using the claim that they are defending the rights of the Caldari citizenry. More or less the only reason one could consider the Gallenteans a faction worth detracting from is that they are a subtly imperialist society, very much so pro-freedom, but none the less flawed a self serving entity rife with corruption serving to the well connected individual . I don't think its wrong to suggest the Gallenteans are a morally grey people because by their very nature they are both openly democratic but at the same time conservative to the point of dictatorial behind a thin fa+ºade. At the same time I don't think it poor taste to laud the values of the State or the Empire which thrive on social order and control. Yes, don't believe the fanboys who talk about Freedom for Everyone. The Federation can't understand a nation that doesn't want their brand of Freedom, so they're determined to force it down the throats of everyone. The Gallente-Caldari war was started because we wanted to go our own way rather than adhere to the Federation's vision, and they refused to allow that. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Mikel Arias Challengers 506 130	Posted - 2015.06.06 13:57:00 - [20] - Quote Drifter? I know about empires, even the Jove, but not sure I know about this. Can someone explain?

Criteria Shipment The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 984	Posted - 2015.06.06 14:38:00 - [21] - Quote Planetside2B0mber wrote: Planetside 2 Coming to PS4 June 23rd PS4 Beta footage with intense CQC action PS4 Beta footage with defense PS4 Beta Huge battle PS4 Beta another Huge battle with over 256 players PS4 Beta Huge 35 min Battle 1080p Ultra settings at Night Intense Open Field Battle 100 Man Infantry Objective Push Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle Intense Uphill Battle Open Desert Firefight 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air True Teamwork Galaxy Drops NC Montage Planetside 2 Machinima Why you should try Planetside 2 Are you that same fat fck from a year before and had the similar name of that stupid fcking troll posting of how "magnificent" PS2 was just a year ago? Do you have anything else better to do?
Droopy Bawlz myrtle beach leap frogz 567	Posted - 2015.06.06 14:52:00 - [22] - Quote SLENDER M4N wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: How does it work? I understand there are 4 independent empires, yet they all answer to Slender man the COCKLORD? Is there some type of Interracial central government? FTFY, I kind of had to. The word racial was involved sooo Ftfy...just had to with CockLords involved (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee925OTFBCA
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.06 16:29:00 - [23] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: True Adamance wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: All the factions are grey raven. The gallente do just as many horrible things in the name of 'freedom' as the amarr do in the name of religion. More or less correct in terms of in game lore. The Gallente are an incredibly meddlesome Empire. They on a fundamental level are very open about what they desire [aka a cultural take over of the Caldari State] using the claim that they are defending the rights of the Caldari citizenry. More or less the only reason one could consider the Gallenteans a faction worth detracting from is that they are a subtly imperialist society, very much so pro-freedom, but none the less flawed a self serving entity rife with corruption serving to the well connected individual . I don't think its wrong to suggest the Gallenteans are a morally grey people because by their very nature they are both openly democratic but at the same time conservative to the point of dictatorial behind a thin fa+ºade. At the same time I don't think it poor taste to laud the values of the State or the Empire which thrive on social order and control. Yes, don't believe the fanboys who talk about Freedom for Everyone. The Federation can't understand a nation that doesn't want their brand of Freedom, so they're determined to force it down the throats of everyone. The Gallente-Caldari war was started because we wanted to go our own way rather than adhere to the Federation's vision, and they refused to allow that. It's also come out that a lot of the minmatar that have emigrated to the federation are not-so-subtly discriminated against. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary 7	Posted - 2015.06.06 16:56:00 - [24] - Quote True Adamance wrote: deezy dabest wrote: True Adamance wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: How does it work? I understand there are 4 independent empires, yet they all answer to CONCORD? Is there some type of multi -racial central government? No. All of the Empires are independent entities with their own internal and foreign policies, leaders, etc. The only thing keeping them peaceful at the moment that at present time no one side has enough power or strategic influence to decisively win a conflict against one of the others without significantly depleting their own military capacity. The Amarr Navy is considered the most largest and most powerful Navy in the cluster but its ships are relatively old in terms of design despite the Amarrian capacity to ingeniously produce new military technologies their power does not lie in engagements against technological equals instead in the suppression of a technologically inferior foe. The Caldari on the others hand have some of the most modern and advanced ships available but are few in number. CONCORD is also not truly an inter-empire peace keeping organisation. Initially it was founded by the Empires, most notably the Gallente and Amarr with some Caldari aid [the Amarr opposed the Minmatar Republic becoming a signatory state unwilling to recognize its sovereignty], however in the years since CONCORD has taken on a capsuleer policing role to ensure that High Sec is relatively safe to fly in. More recently with the Drifter threats appearing its taken on a more clandestine and suspect role since it considers the Drifters a minimal threat despite their appearance in the space of a signatory state, their seizure of several Scope Reporters for leaking footage of a Drifter fleet and structure in Worm Hole space to the public, and was savaged in one of their own core systems by a Drifter Fleet after a corpse was taken to autopsy. I never really thought about it but you made me realize that New Eden really is just a big stale mate. This gives me new perspective on the theory crafting that was going on earlier in reference to the whole drifters thing. The biggest danger with the current mind-set about the Drifter's appearance is that most players are rather gung-ho about seeing the either the Drifter's or the Amarrians begin hostilities with one another assuming that the Drifter's will win and annihilate the Empire. The other assumption these people make is that as soon as this happens the entire cluster will unite under one banner and see of these guys with CONCORD at their backs in some love filled circle jerk of justice..... this is doubt very much will happen with the Cluster losing its largest and arguably most powerful military force leaving the rest of them trying to support trillions of refugees from the Empire.......something no one can currently afford to do. Even if the Amarr manage to beat off the drifters, they won't do so easily. They'll be as weakened as they would be coming out of an all-out war against the minmatar or gallente, only in this case, the minmatar and gallente will still be ready to jump on them. Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 707	Posted - 2015.06.06 20:37:00 - [25] - Quote Man, if CCP was smart. They'd make an EvE sims game, where th players make the laws and rules of new Eden that affect how we play and what not Shields, the silent killer.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 633	Posted - 2015.06.06 21:06:00 - [26] - Quote All this talk on lore almost makes me want to make an EVE account but all that is going to happen is I'll get #REKT for the first month or three Click me
BAD FURRY Oh No You Didn't 922	Posted - 2015.06.06 21:26:00 - [27] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: How does it work? I understand there are 4 independent empires, yet they all answer to CONCORD? Is there some type of multi -racial central government? No. All of the Empires are independent entities with their own internal and foreign policies, leaders, etc. The only thing keeping them peaceful at the moment that at present time no one side has enough power or strategic influence to decisively win a conflict against one of the others without significantly depleting their own military capacity. The Amarr Navy is considered the most largest and most powerful Navy in the cluster but its ships are relatively old in terms of design despite the Amarrian capacity to ingeniously produce new military technologies their power does not lie in engagements against technological equals instead in the suppression of a technologically inferior foe. The Caldari on the others hand have some of the most modern and advanced ships available but are few in number. CONCORD is also not truly an inter-empire peace keeping organisation. Initially it was founded by the Empires, most notably the Gallente and Amarr with some Caldari aid [the Amarr opposed the Minmatar Republic becoming a signatory state unwilling to recognize its sovereignty], however in the years since CONCORD has taken on a capsuleer policing role to ensure that High Sec is relatively safe to fly in. More recently with the Drifter threats appearing its taken on a more clandestine and suspect role since it considers the Drifters a minimal threat despite their appearance in the space of a signatory state, their seizure of several Scope Reporters for leaking footage of a Drifter fleet and structure in Worm Hole space to the public, and was savaged in one of their own core systems by a Drifter Fleet after a corpse was taken to autopsy. The Amarr Navy is considered the most largest and most powerful Navy in the cluster ..........not just old dum too Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary 7	Posted - 2015.06.06 21:51:00 - [28] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: How does it work? I understand there are 4 independent empires, yet they all answer to CONCORD? Is there some type of multi -racial central government? The capsuleers answer to concord. Though concord has become sort of like a 'united nations' of sorts and tries to prevent or resolve hostilities between empires (that involve immortals). Jovians = Never lost the majority of their technology, but they shy away from other empires because reasons. Amarr = Largest empire, they were the first to rediscover space flight and promptly went about conquering the stars, a lot of their aggression got smacked out of them by the jove. They have easily the largest number of ships in their fleet, but they run on older technology (amarr tend to prefer a 'tried and true' method). Gallente = Second largest empire, they are quite meddlesome and they essentially force themselves on other sovereign nations ("don't you want to be free and cultured?), they dragged the caldari kicking and screaming into the federation... where the caldari were a permanent minority and were outvoted by the gallente on everything concerning the caldari. They tend to consider their way to be the only right way, despite plenty of evidence otherwise. They also have a pretty staggeringly large military, but it can be bogged down by bureaucracy. Minmatar = Second smallest empire, they have a lot of issues within the republic which has caused some tribes to outright leave and tell the gallente to **** off, a vast majority of their population is still enslaved by the amarr. the republic itself tends to get along well with the gallente because they are a pet project of the gallente ("Oh no, how dare those amarr impinge upon others freedom). The actual military of the republic is somewhat small, but well suited to rapid response and hard hitting skirmishes... the military of the tribes that have left the republic is astonishingly large. Caldari = Smallest empire and the most militant, grew up on a harsh world where the group came before the individual and they had to fight damn hard to free themselves from the gallente who spent quite a bit of time looking down on them / dictating to them. Caldari are in a pragmatic alliance with the Amarr, but they really get along well with and respect the khanid. The caldari navy, despite being one of (if not the) smallest navies is arguably the strongest, running with incredibly advanced technology and supreme range, they tend to resort to a lot of fighters or to incredibly long range doctrines supported by massive amounts of electronic warfare - they have held their own against bigger and 'stronger' forces plenty of times. Each of the races is independently governed in their own style and manner, and all of them have a seat of representatives in the CONCORD agency to 'protect' themselves from the growing power of immortals. So, I want to clarify: CONCORD is entirely made up of mortals? Also, where does their vastly superior technology come from? The Jove? Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary 7	Posted - 2015.06.06 21:54:00 - [29] - Quote Squagga wrote: Man, if CCP was smart. They'd make an EvE sims game, where th players make the laws and rules of new Eden that affect how we play and what not We can make laws and rules: CONCORD's laws are just better enforced in their sphere of influence. Rule 34.6.1: every parody will have a crossover
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.06 22:20:00 - [30] - Quote Mikel Arias wrote: Drifter? I know about empires, even the Jove, but not sure I know about this. Can someone explain? No one is quite sure what the drifters deal is at the moment, but they are an offshoot of the jovian genetic line, they could precede the original jove empire (we're currently on the third jove empire, the first two succumbed to jovian disease) or even the sleepers. It's suspected that they may have killed all of the remaining jove, but all we know about them is that we don't know much about them and they're sinister and scary as all hell. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.06 22:21:00 - [31] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: So, I want to clarify: CONCORD is entirely made up of mortals? Also, where does their vastly superior technology come from? The Jove? I'm not sure if there are capsuleers among concord, but their superior tech is jovian. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.06 23:07:00 - [32] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Even if the Amarr manage to beat off the drifters, they won't do so easily. They'll be as weakened as they would be coming out of an all-out war against the minmatar or gallente, only in this case, the minmatar and gallente will still be ready to jump on them. I disagree. If they do they will surely incur losses yes but in my opinion not enough to weaken the Empire enough for a smaller entity like the Republic to capitalise on. There are a large number of capsuleer entities that are pro-Amarr and at the drop of a hat would field billions of ISK's worth of ships in support the Empire. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
Dzago Sevatarion DUST University Ivy League 7	Posted - 2015.06.07 01:43:00 - [33] - Quote True Adamance wrote: The Gallente are an incredibly meddlesome Empire. They on a fundamental level are very open about what they desire [aka a cultural take over of the Caldari State] using the claim that they are defending the rights of the Caldari citizenry. If you consider the megacorps the extent of Caldari culture, sure. At most 40% of Federation citizens even speak Gallente, it's hardly a bastion of cultural homogeneity. Let's be clear, until the secret colonies of the megacorps were discovered, Caldari were content to belong to the Federation, a government they helped to found. Caldari corporations were very successful prior to the first war with the Gallente. (Caldari Funds Unlimited was one of the most powerful banks in the Federation.) The Gallente are morally ambiguous because their system of government is vulnerable to demagoguery, their economic system can be brutal, and the state is little more than a lawful neutral Hobbesian Leviathan. You're biased as heck.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.07 01:49:00 - [34] - Quote Dzago Sevatarion wrote: You're biased as heck. Not really. That is simply who the Gallente are. The only Empire I openly dislike OOC is the Caldari State. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 566	Posted - 2015.06.07 03:20:00 - [35] - Quote GÇª.My special thanks to ALL posters in this thread. It's really fun to see players discuss/disagree about Lore politics and imagery. It's not fun feeling as if you're the only player nutty enough to study the Starmap, or read the New Eden World News updates, or spend time NOT just shooting a gun in players' faces. Others spend time in the Lore too. Cool! Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1	Posted - 2015.06.07 03:29:00 - [36] - Quote True Adamance isn't bias, his character is tho. >.>... The Gallente are meddlesome but it doesn't make them worse off than the rest as all of the nations have their own "quirks." He knows that though, and it's obvious from his posts that he doesn't really care either way. I personally have no favorite but because I roleplay as a Gallente I'm interested in their ways more than I would be. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." http://royventus.tumblr.com
VAHZZ Corrosive Synergy No Context 2	Posted - 2015.06.07 03:38:00 - [37] - Quote True and Yassavi are perhaps the biggest brains when it comes to Our lore, at least in DUST. It is hard to argue with their knowledge. I have recently been studying lore and the chronicles since I have not been playing the game much. Maybe one day, you guys will see a not so troll VAHZZ. Or i will just make an alt....Which will most likely be Amarr. "I bring nothing, I bless nothing, I save nothing; I just erase; completely, shatter."
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.07 03:42:00 - [38] - Quote Dzago Sevatarion wrote: Caldari were content to belong to the Federation, a government they helped to found. Wrong wrong wrong. They were a permanent minority in the federation, they were out 'voted' on anything they should have had a reasonable choice about. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
sir RAVEN WING 3	Posted - 2015.06.07 06:10:00 - [39] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Dzago Sevatarion wrote: Caldari were content to belong to the Federation, a government they helped to found. Wrong wrong wrong. They were a permanent minority in the federation, they were out 'voted' on anything they should have had a reasonable choice about. I was about to point that out. They were not content, nor did they co-found it out of pure free will. Read up on your lore, and maybe you will see the difference. Note: How have I not been accused of being 'Pro-Gallente' or 'Pro-Caldari' yet? I have history of both, but neither have been accused of me. @Mina Yes, I was not claiming they were innocent, just pointing out how your wording painted the situation. *Intaki - Civire* *Caldai State!* *"Democracy is lies of freedom. Anarchy is it's truth."*
Dzago Sevatarion DUST University Ivy League 8	Posted - 2015.06.07 06:31:00 - [40] - Quote ...but for the unaffiliated voter (magpies), all political groups are minorities in the Federation. That's why somewhat reliable blocs like Minmatar immigrants are so disruptive in Gallente politics. Until Nouvelle Rouvenor the Gallente-Caldari War wasn't even much of a war. The Caldari were content to blockade Luminaire and the Gallente to squabble amongst themselves about how to end the conflict. Hardly the hallmark of the antagonistic narrative being spun itt.

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.07 07:20:00 - [41] - Quote Dzago Sevatarion wrote: ...but for the unaffiliated voter (magpies), all political groups are minorities in the Federation. That's why somewhat reliable blocs like Minmatar immigrants are so disruptive in Gallente politics. Until Nouvelle Rouvenor the Gallente-Caldari War wasn't even much of a war. The Caldari were content to blockade Luminaire and the Gallente to squabble amongst themselves about how to end the conflict. Hardly the hallmark of the antagonistic narrative being spun itt. Unfortunately you are mistaken. The Caldari and the Gallente schism occurred almost two centuries ago and the greater Caldari-Gallente War was fought for the better part of a century until both sides essentially reached a stalemate being unable to gain a tactical advantage over their opponent. You could argue that the Gallente and Caldari never truly meshed as partners in the founding of the Federation with the Caldari content to be a part of the federation initially until constant overruling of their needs and ideals as well as heavy federal taxation to provide for less productive worlds proved too much of elements of the Caldari Society to take. Rouvenor as I see it is more or less the spark the lit the fuse of the conflict. Bombed and destroyed by ultranationalist partisans causing the underwater city's dome to buckle and 500,000 people to die. This in turn provoked, what most Federal citizens will admit was a heavy handed reprisal, a detachment of the Federal Navies to launch a devastating orbital bombardment on the Caldari Homeworld. It was only the actions of the Caldari Admiral Yakiya Tovil Toba as his fleet, during a bitter guerilla campaign, that the Caldari were even able to escape the planet with the admiral having to scuttle a Karirola Water Freighter over the city of Hueromont where another 2,000,000 Gallenteans were killed. The blockade of Caldari Prime by the CN Shigeru, the Leviathan Class Titan that was shot down over the planet two years ago during Operation Highlander, was in YC110 something like 7 or 8 years ago now when the Caldari under the leadership of Tibus Heth invaded the system again and established the Leviathan over the planet essentially holding the Gallentean citizens below to ransom. Ironically it's very easy to put a number of the Gallenteans who died during this chaos.....but not the Caldari who were killed during the planetary bombardment. From a completely OOC stand point it rather clear that the Gallente portions of the Federation were entirely content to leverage their superior voting power against the Caldari to essentially milk their profitable endeavors for all they were worth to support other Gallentean interests. Also during this time there were a large number of Intaki who sympathised with the disenfranchised and suddenly homeworldless Caldari......these individuals were labeled as dissidents by the Federal Government and either imprisoned for expressing these ideals or exiled from the Federation. As much as people love to view the Gallenteans as the central good guy figure there is a lot of nods to the ideas of 'closing ones eyes to the suffering of others yet lamenting their own', cultural ignorance, corruption, etc. That being said the Federation is a powerful society because of the ideals they champion and the sense of value of the human spirit that they are all possessed of. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 17	Posted - 2015.06.07 07:35:00 - [42] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: How does it work? I understand there are 4 independent empires, yet they all answer to CONCORD? Is there some type of multi -racial central government? The capsuleers answer to concord. Though concord has become sort of like a 'united nations' of sorts and tries to prevent or resolve hostilities between empires (that involve immortals). Jovians = Never lost the majority of their technology, but they shy away from other empires because reasons. Amarr = Largest empire, they were the first to rediscover space flight and promptly went about conquering the stars, a lot of their aggression got smacked out of them by the jove. They have easily the largest number of ships in their fleet, but they run on older technology (amarr tend to prefer a 'tried and true' method). Gallente = Second largest empire, they are quite meddlesome and they essentially force themselves on other sovereign nations ("don't you want to be free and cultured?), they dragged the caldari kicking and screaming into the federation... where the caldari were a permanent minority and were outvoted by the gallente on everything concerning the caldari. They tend to consider their way to be the only right way, despite plenty of evidence otherwise. They also have a pretty staggeringly large military, but it can be bogged down by bureaucracy. Minmatar = Second smallest empire, they have a lot of issues within the republic which has caused some tribes to outright leave and tell the gallente to **** off, a vast majority of their population is still enslaved by the amarr. the republic itself tends to get along well with the gallente because they are a pet project of the gallente ("Oh no, how dare those amarr impinge upon others freedom). The actual military of the republic is somewhat small, but well suited to rapid response and hard hitting skirmishes... the military of the tribes that have left the republic is astonishingly large. Caldari = Smallest empire and the most militant, grew up on a harsh world where the group came before the individual and they had to fight damn hard to free themselves from the gallente who spent quite a bit of time looking down on them / dictating to them. Caldari are in a pragmatic alliance with the Amarr, but they really get along well with and respect the khanid. The caldari navy, despite being one of (if not the) smallest navies is arguably the strongest, running with incredibly advanced technology and supreme range, they tend to resort to a lot of fighters or to incredibly long range doctrines supported by massive amounts of electronic warfare - they have held their own against bigger and 'stronger' forces plenty of times. Each of the races is independently governed in their own style and manner, and all of them have a seat of representatives in the CONCORD agency to 'protect' themselves from the growing power of immortals. I smell a lot of Caldari in this post. "To find out if they consent, poke the giant boobs. If they jiggle once, that means no. If twice, that means yes" - Anon
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 17	Posted - 2015.06.07 07:37:00 - [43] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: All the factions are grey raven. The gallente do just as many horrible things in the name of 'freedom' as the amarr do in the name of religion. And yet your entire post makes the Caldari look like saints while the Gallente look like the absolute devil "To find out if they consent, poke the giant boobs. If they jiggle once, that means no. If twice, that means yes" - Anon
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 17	Posted - 2015.06.07 07:46:00 - [44] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: True and Yassavi are perhaps the biggest brains when it comes to Our lore, at least in DUST. It is hard to argue with their knowledge. I have recently been studying lore and the chronicles since I have not been playing the game much. Maybe one day, you guys will see a not so troll VAHZZ. Or i will just make an alt....Which will most likely be Amarr. Can confirm, those two are lore powerhouses. "To find out if they consent, poke the giant boobs. If they jiggle once, that means no. If twice, that means yes" - Anon
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 17	Posted - 2015.06.07 07:47:00 - [45] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Note: How have I not been accused of being 'Pro-Gallente' or 'Pro-Caldari' yet? I have history of both, but neither have been accused of me. Probably because you didn't make out one or the other to be complete saints or devil. "To find out if they consent, poke the giant boobs. If they jiggle once, that means no. If twice, that means yes" - Anon
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.07 08:00:00 - [46] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Ironically it's very easy to put a number of the Gallenteans who died during this chaos.....but not the Caldari who were killed during the planetary bombardment. I believe it was a number of something like >70% never made it off of caldari prime during the bombings. I mean, the caldari had to resort to several generations of tube children raised in corporate creches just to have some semblance of a population. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 17	Posted - 2015.06.07 08:23:00 - [47] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: True Adamance wrote: Ironically it's very easy to put a number of the Gallenteans who died during this chaos.....but not the Caldari who were killed during the planetary bombardment. I believe it was a number of something like >70% never made it off of caldari prime during the bombings. I mean, the caldari had to resort to several generations of tube children raised in corporate creches just to have some semblance of a population. Oh my god. I just realized something. I don't know if this exists in English, but over here calling someone a test tube child is basically calling him a retard. And the Caldari are tube children... I am laughing my ass off right now XD "To find out if they consent, poke the giant boobs. If they jiggle once, that means no. If twice, that means yes" - Anon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.07 08:27:00 - [48] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: True Adamance wrote: Ironically it's very easy to put a number of the Gallenteans who died during this chaos.....but not the Caldari who were killed during the planetary bombardment. I believe it was a number of something like >70% never made it off of caldari prime during the bombings. I mean, the caldari had to resort to several generations of tube children raised in corporate creches just to have some semblance of a population. Indeed. It's one of the major backgrounds Caldari pilots can choose from amongst. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`


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