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Mina Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.06.06 05:52:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:How does it work?
I understand there are 4 independent empires, yet they all answer to CONCORD?
Is there some type of multi -racial central government?
The capsuleers answer to concord. Though concord has become sort of like a 'united nations' of sorts and tries to prevent or resolve hostilities between empires (that involve immortals).
Jovians = Never lost the majority of their technology, but they shy away from other empires because reasons.
Amarr = Largest empire, they were the first to rediscover space flight and promptly went about conquering the stars, a lot of their aggression got smacked out of them by the jove. They have easily the largest number of ships in their fleet, but they run on older technology (amarr tend to prefer a 'tried and true' method).
Gallente = Second largest empire, they are quite meddlesome and they essentially force themselves on other sovereign nations ("don't you want to be free and cultured?), they dragged the caldari kicking and screaming into the federation... where the caldari were a permanent minority and were outvoted by the gallente on everything concerning the caldari. They tend to consider their way to be the only right way, despite plenty of evidence otherwise. They also have a pretty staggeringly large military, but it can be bogged down by bureaucracy.
Minmatar = Second smallest empire, they have a lot of issues within the republic which has caused some tribes to outright leave *and* tell the gallente to **** off, a vast majority of their population is still enslaved by the amarr. the republic itself tends to get along well with the gallente because they are a pet project of the gallente ("Oh no, how dare those amarr impinge upon others freedom). The actual military of the republic is somewhat small, but well suited to rapid response and hard hitting skirmishes... the military of the tribes that have left the republic is astonishingly large.
Caldari = Smallest empire and the most militant, grew up on a harsh world where the group came before the individual and they had to fight damn hard to free themselves from the gallente who spent quite a bit of time looking down on them / dictating to them. Caldari are in a pragmatic alliance with the Amarr, but they really get along well with and respect the khanid. The caldari navy, despite being one of (if not the) smallest navies is arguably the strongest, running with incredibly advanced technology and supreme range, they tend to resort to a lot of fighters or to incredibly long range doctrines supported by massive amounts of electronic warfare - they have held their own against bigger and 'stronger' forces plenty of times.
Each of the races is independently governed in their own style and manner, and all of them have a seat of representatives in the CONCORD agency to 'protect' themselves from the growing power of immortals.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.06.06 06:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:deezy dabest wrote:True Adamance wrote:Talos Vagheitan wrote:How does it work?
I understand there are 4 independent empires, yet they all answer to CONCORD?
Is there some type of multi -racial central government? No. All of the Empires are independent entities with their own internal and foreign policies, leaders, etc. The only thing keeping them peaceful at the moment that at present time no one side has enough power or strategic influence to decisively win a conflict against one of the others without significantly depleting their own military capacity. The Amarr Navy is considered the most largest and most powerful Navy in the cluster but its ships are relatively old in terms of design despite the Amarrian capacity to ingeniously produce new military technologies their power does not lie in engagements against technological equals instead in the suppression of a technologically inferior foe. The Caldari on the others hand have some of the most modern and advanced ships available but are few in number. CONCORD is also not truly an inter-empire peace keeping organisation. Initially it was founded by the Empires, most notably the Gallente and Amarr with some Caldari aid [the Amarr opposed the Minmatar Republic becoming a signatory state unwilling to recognize its sovereignty], however in the years since CONCORD has taken on a capsuleer policing role to ensure that High Sec is relatively safe to fly in. More recently with the Drifter threats appearing its taken on a more clandestine and suspect role since it considers the Drifters a minimal threat despite their appearance in the space of a signatory state, their seizure of several Scope Reporters for leaking footage of a Drifter fleet and structure in Worm Hole space to the public, and was savaged in one of their own core systems by a Drifter Fleet after a corpse was taken to autopsy. I never really thought about it but you made me realize that New Eden really is just a big stale mate. This gives me new perspective on the theory crafting that was going on earlier in reference to the whole drifters thing. The biggest danger with the current mind-set about the Drifter's appearance is that most players are rather gung-ho about seeing the either the Drifter's or the Amarrians begin hostilities with one another assuming that the Drifter's will win and annihilate the Empire. The other assumption these people make is that as soon as this happens the entire cluster will unite under one banner and see of these guys with CONCORD at their backs in some love filled circle jerk of justice..... this is doubt very much will happen with the Cluster losing its largest and arguably most powerful military force leaving the rest of them trying to support trillions of refugees from the Empire.......something no one can currently afford to do.
To add onto this, I imagine that the amarr would be incredibly reluctant to commit the navy to a true fight against the drifters as they remember all too well the humiliation that they suffered at the hands of the jove.
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.06.06 08:00:00 -
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^Actually not really.
http://freebooted.blogspot.nl/p/mark726s-eve-lore-guide.html
Educate yourself please.
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.06.06 08:21:00 -
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All the factions are grey raven. The gallente do just as many horrible things in the name of 'freedom' as the amarr do in the name of religion.
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.06.06 16:29:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:True Adamance wrote:Mina Longstrike wrote:All the factions are grey raven. The gallente do just as many horrible things in the name of 'freedom' as the amarr do in the name of religion. More or less correct in terms of in game lore. The Gallente are an incredibly meddlesome Empire. They on a fundamental level are very open about what they desire [aka a cultural take over of the Caldari State] using the claim that they are defending the rights of the Caldari citizenry. More or less the only reason one could consider the Gallenteans a faction worth detracting from is that they are a subtly imperialist society, very much so pro-freedom, but none the less flawed a self serving entity rife with corruption serving to the well connected individual . I don't think its wrong to suggest the Gallenteans are a morally grey people because by their very nature they are both openly democratic but at the same time conservative to the point of dictatorial behind a thin fa+šade. At the same time I don't think it poor taste to laud the values of the State or the Empire which thrive on social order and control. Yes, don't believe the fanboys who talk about Freedom for Everyone. The Federation can't understand a nation that doesn't want their brand of Freedom, so they're determined to force it down the throats of everyone. The Gallente-Caldari war was started because we wanted to go our own way rather than adhere to the Federation's vision, and they refused to allow that.
It's also come out that a lot of the minmatar that have emigrated to the federation are not-so-subtly discriminated against.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.06.06 22:20:00 -
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Mikel Arias wrote:Drifter? I know about empires, even the Jove, but not sure I know about this. Can someone explain?
No one is quite sure what the drifters deal is at the moment, but they are an offshoot of the jovian genetic line, they could precede the original jove empire (we're currently on the third jove empire, the first two succumbed to jovian disease) or even the sleepers.
It's suspected that they may have killed all of the remaining jove, but all we know about them is that we don't know much about them and they're sinister and scary as all hell.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.06.06 22:21:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:So, I want to clarify: CONCORD is entirely made up of mortals?
Also, where does their vastly superior technology come from? The Jove?
I'm not sure if there are capsuleers among concord, but their superior tech is jovian.
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.06.07 03:42:00 -
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Dzago Sevatarion wrote:Caldari were content to belong to the Federation, a government they helped to found. Wrong wrong wrong. They were a permanent minority in the federation, they were out 'voted' on anything they should have had a reasonable choice about.
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.06.07 08:00:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ironically it's very easy to put a number of the Gallenteans who died during this chaos.....but not the Caldari who were killed during the planetary bombardment.
I believe it was a number of something like >70% never made it off of caldari prime during the bombings. I mean, the caldari had to resort to several generations of tube children raised in corporate creches just to have some semblance of a population.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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