Why would I think that nothing should kill them? My problem with them [RE's] is that single objective defensive games (which seem to be a large proportion of games) lend themselves massively to them as your opposition is oftentimes forced into relatively small spaces that they have to adequately defend.

My problem isn't that an RE guarantees taking someone out, though I think guaranteed one-shot kills of everything in the game are a tad harsh, it's that RE can one-shot multiple people. People complain about heavies with a logi. That's two people and they are not insta-popping multiple people in one shot.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the difficulty in clearing people out from defensive positions, but Remote Explosives radius just smacks of cheap on a lot of maps due to the nature of where the objectives are.

Well, the death screen when I got killed specified that it did 1950 damage to me and from 8 metres away. There were no enemies within 20 metres of me, so I guess I was "pulling this stuff" from the game telling me "this stuff".

MY 1.3 MILLION ISK TANK SHOULD NOT GET SUICIDED BY APEX. its a *****. however i never let them get close to me, but still

Well, the death screen when I got killed specified that it did 1950 damage to me and from 8 metres away. There were no enemies within 20 metres of me, so I guess I was "pulling this stuff" from the game telling me "this stuff".

With tossing distance next to nothing, the only ways you get multi kills with REs now is by either being lucky enough to lay one down by two or more mercs standing too close to one another without them realizing what you are doing and killing you first, laying a great trap and having multiple people wander into it at the same time, or hacking an objective with multiple people without fluxing first.

All these situations are avoidable, and having just a 5m radius isn't all that much for something that creates a massive explosion.

Its not like REs are hard to counter. I am often amazed by how many people don't flux objectives, and its pure absent mindedness or laziness.

These aren't the REs of old that could be supposedly tossed like grenades, or even worse, actually detonated during bleedout. They are in the most balanced place they have ever been, they serve a useful purpose, and are not able to be abused in the current framework.

MY 1.3 MILLION ISK TANK SHOULD NOT GET SUICIDED BY APEX. its a *****. however i never let them get close to me, but still

Let's face it,everyone has been affected by people with remote explosive or have done it themselves. Scouts spamming remote explosives,assaults spamming remote explosive,COMMANDOS spamming remote explosive(rare) but STILL WORSE IS APEX SUITS WITH FREE UNLIMITED REMOTE EXPLOSIVES. There are Dom matches were there is nothing but remote explosive in the feed. This needs to be addressed,CCP I will sacrifice a goat if I have too but remove the apex suit's remote explosive and replace with maybe a repair tool for the nomad and the scout gets some other equipment.