DUST Search - Stupid Scanners

Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:

saxonmish wrote:

LT SHANKS wrote:

I agree. Scanners are total bullshit: especially on a level 5 GalLogi. I will admit, I also have a Proto GalLogi with two Creodron Flux Scanners, almost 900 eHP, 20+ hp/s reps, and a fully skilled Boundless CR while only having a 2% speed penalty. The thing seldom dies if playing with a decent team while singlehandedly providing permanent scans for everyone to see. In a sense, it's quite the easy mode fit to use despite its costly price.

With a general "slayer" type setup and a combination of competent players, the GalLogi can and will win games just because of its ability to scan. Sure, dampened Scouts can get under the radar, but they are easy enough to deal with once someone catches them. Every other player, however, is subjected to an annoying "You have been scanned" message for the entirety of a game.

Damn those Japanese players. They made me do it. I wouldn't have invested any points into my GalLogi nor scanners if they hadn't kept spamming scans 24/7 themselves.

I've decided i will just skill into them and put one on every single one of my suits, just so people can feel my pain and cry about them. i will skill into gal logi, with scans and get everyone crying for a nerf. im now in a mission to nerf scanners. I will also make loads of video's with it so everyone will see how easy mode it is and do it themselves, then with everyone overusing the scanner it will get a destructive nerf just like the CQC RR did

and i laugh when it takes you a few weeks to make a good video to post.

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saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 08:07:00 - [1] - Quote Fix scanners! one piece of equipment should not pick up the whole enemy team its redonculus, i know people will just be like "well dampen up" so your telling me my whole team has to go in low 'ehp suits with even less hp cos of the need for damps just to get away from the one guy with a 200m range scanner scanning my team. This is the stupidest thing ever added into the game, i mean it even shows which way an enemy player is facing on the radar. So stupid. SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 08:08:00 - [2] - Quote Real men do not hide. Nemo me impune lacessit CCP - Announcing games at the same time as killing the ones you love CCP - No Credibility
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven 4	Posted - 2015.05.29 08:15:00 - [3] - Quote Didn't you already make this thread before...? Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven 4	Posted - 2015.05.29 08:16:00 - [4] - Quote What if you also ran scanners? Then your enemies would have to run low EHP fits too. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
OliX PRZESMIEWCA Bezimienni... Dark Taboo 276	Posted - 2015.05.29 08:20:00 - [5] - Quote Sax if U scared go to church Jokes/off 200m scanner keep U visible for 8 sec. You got two logis already on a leach In my opinion scanners should make visible only targets on the move except heavy/commando. Since passive are kinda broken active ones must stay as they are
7th Son 7 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 08:22:00 - [6] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: What if you also ran scanners? Then your enemies would have to run low EHP fits too. He's got no room for that Dreis, Saxon needs 3 things then he's ready to party. 1) He needs his boxers on his head 2) He needs a beer in one hand 3) He needs his weopon in his other hand Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 08:28:00 - [7] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: What if you also ran scanners? Then your enemies would have to run low EHP fits too. He's got no room for that Dreis, Saxon needs 3 things then he's ready to party. 1) He needs his boxers on his head 2) He needs a beer in one hand 3) He needs his weopon in his other hand Chillin and Killin to the max SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
Weary Guy 94	Posted - 2015.05.29 08:39:00 - [8] - Quote saxonmish wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: What if you also ran scanners? Then your enemies would have to run low EHP fits too. He's got no room for that Dreis, Saxon needs 3 things then he's ready to party. 1) He needs his boxers on his head 2) He needs a beer in one hand 3) He needs his weopon in his other hand Chillin and Killin to the max love it how before matchmaking your kill counts were at 50+ for 'chillin and killin' after matchmaking the latest was at 27, if i remember correctly...still fun to watch since you ran a small squad and they weren't random nubs :) keep it up, and run damps if you want to hide from scanners. My min scout is very squishy you know! Alt char
LT SHANKS You In The Nutz 5	Posted - 2015.05.29 08:51:00 - [9] - Quote I agree. Scanners are total bullshit: especially on a level 5 GalLogi. I will admit, I also have a Proto GalLogi with two Creodron Flux Scanners, almost 900 eHP, 20+ hp/s reps, and a fully skilled Boundless CR while only having a 2% speed penalty. The thing seldom dies if playing with a decent team while singlehandedly providing permanent scans for everyone to see. In a sense, it's quite the easy mode fit to use despite its costly price. With a general "slayer" type setup and a combination of competent players, the GalLogi can and will win games just because of its ability to scan. Sure, dampened Scouts can get under the radar, but they are easy enough to deal with once someone catches them. Every other player, however, is subjected to an annoying "You have been scanned" message for the entirety of a game. Damn those Japanese players. They made me do it. I wouldn't have invested any points into my GalLogi nor scanners if they hadn't kept spamming scans 24/7 themselves.
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 09:01:00 - [10] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: I agree. Scanners are total bullshit: especially on a level 5 GalLogi. I will admit, I also have a Proto GalLogi with two Creodron Flux Scanners, almost 900 eHP, 20+ hp/s reps, and a fully skilled Boundless CR while only having a 2% speed penalty. The thing seldom dies if playing with a decent team while singlehandedly providing permanent scans for everyone to see. In a sense, it's quite the easy mode fit to use despite its costly price. With a general "slayer" type setup and a combination of competent players, the GalLogi can and will win games just because of its ability to scan. Sure, dampened Scouts can get under the radar, but they are easy enough to deal with once someone catches them. Every other player, however, is subjected to an annoying "You have been scanned" message for the entirety of a game. Damn those Japanese players. They made me do it. I wouldn't have invested any points into my GalLogi nor scanners if they hadn't kept spamming scans 24/7 themselves. I've decided i will just skill into them and put one on every single one of my suits, just so people can feel my pain and cry about them. i will skill into gal logi, with scans and get everyone crying for a nerf. im now in a mission to nerf scanners. I will also make loads of video's with it so everyone will see how easy mode it is and do it themselves, then with everyone overusing the scanner it will get a destructive nerf just like the CQC RR did SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)

Diablo Gamekeeper Escrow Removal and Acquisition No Context 291	Posted - 2015.05.29 10:04:00 - [11] - Quote saxonmish wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: I agree. Scanners are total bullshit: especially on a level 5 GalLogi. I will admit, I also have a Proto GalLogi with two Creodron Flux Scanners, almost 900 eHP, 20+ hp/s reps, and a fully skilled Boundless CR while only having a 2% speed penalty. The thing seldom dies if playing with a decent team while singlehandedly providing permanent scans for everyone to see. In a sense, it's quite the easy mode fit to use despite its costly price. With a general "slayer" type setup and a combination of competent players, the GalLogi can and will win games just because of its ability to scan. Sure, dampened Scouts can get under the radar, but they are easy enough to deal with once someone catches them. Every other player, however, is subjected to an annoying "You have been scanned" message for the entirety of a game. Damn those Japanese players. They made me do it. I wouldn't have invested any points into my GalLogi nor scanners if they hadn't kept spamming scans 24/7 themselves. I've decided i will just skill into them and put one on every single one of my suits, just so people can feel my pain and cry about them. i will skill into gal logi, with scans and get everyone crying for a nerf. im now in a mission to nerf scanners. I will also make loads of video's with it so everyone will see how easy mode it is and do it themselves, then with everyone overusing the scanner it will get a destructive nerf just like the CQC RR did and i laugh when it takes you a few weeks to make a good video to post. I have DESTROYED CCP Rattati
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 10:15:00 - [12] - Quote Diablo Gamekeeper wrote: saxonmish wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: I agree. Scanners are total bullshit: especially on a level 5 GalLogi. I will admit, I also have a Proto GalLogi with two Creodron Flux Scanners, almost 900 eHP, 20+ hp/s reps, and a fully skilled Boundless CR while only having a 2% speed penalty. The thing seldom dies if playing with a decent team while singlehandedly providing permanent scans for everyone to see. In a sense, it's quite the easy mode fit to use despite its costly price. With a general "slayer" type setup and a combination of competent players, the GalLogi can and will win games just because of its ability to scan. Sure, dampened Scouts can get under the radar, but they are easy enough to deal with once someone catches them. Every other player, however, is subjected to an annoying "You have been scanned" message for the entirety of a game. Damn those Japanese players. They made me do it. I wouldn't have invested any points into my GalLogi nor scanners if they hadn't kept spamming scans 24/7 themselves. I've decided i will just skill into them and put one on every single one of my suits, just so people can feel my pain and cry about them. i will skill into gal logi, with scans and get everyone crying for a nerf. im now in a mission to nerf scanners. I will also make loads of video's with it so everyone will see how easy mode it is and do it themselves, then with everyone overusing the scanner it will get a destructive nerf just like the CQC RR did and i laugh when it takes you a few weeks to make a good video to post. And i laugh at your very original comment SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 158	Posted - 2015.05.29 10:44:00 - [13] - Quote Sorry vato, no complaints here. CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 923	Posted - 2015.05.29 10:48:00 - [14] - Quote I think there would be merit in changing the Gal logi bonus away from precision and onto other aspects of scanning. Without the precision bonus, an assault could dampen below scans with two damps. Seems like a more reasonable sacrifice than needing three.
jordy mack WarRavens 494	Posted - 2015.05.29 10:52:00 - [15] - Quote do you think maybe ppl are trolling you and making sure that you stay scanned for the whole match, because they see your name and know what your guna do if they dont. (bons shotgun vid) and also maybe because you asked them not to.(this thread) ? just a thought :) Less QQ more PewPew
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy No Context 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 11:07:00 - [16] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I've decided i will just skill into them and put one on every single one of my suits, just so people can feel my pain and cry about them. i will skill into gal logi, with scans and get everyone crying for a nerf. im now in a mission to nerf scanners. I will also make loads of video's with it so everyone will see how easy mode it is and do it themselves, then with everyone overusing the scanner it will get a destructive nerf just like the CQC RR did Your hate for the scanner , sax , is quite understandable. What makes you the amazing slayer you are ( apart from a lot of weapon skills maxed ) is the fact that you are unpredictable. You move all over the place fly , throwing core locus left and right. People have no idea where you are going to pop out from. Until they pull out the scanner. This is a counter to your movements. Unless you understand that you are getting countered, you will always get outplayed. Here is what you can do. 1) Dampen enough to have less HP , apparently not a viable option for you.Slayers love to stack them HP's.Now that I think about it you were a slayer scout a while back so where is the problem with the HP ? 2) You can use a scanner yourself.If the enemies can see you , you can see them. Their movements will be predicted but so will yours. Just learn to capitalize on the enemies' mistakes. 3) Have a squad mate run intel. I noticed a lack of logis , scans ( active or passive ) in your videos. Maybe throwing in one could help you a lot balancing the game. Good luck sax , and btw saxonmish wrote: I will also make loads of video's with it so everyone will see how easy mode it is and do it themselves Scanners were never mentioned to require skill. Just like throwing out a nanohive to restock your grenades. Equipment is easymode. *Plasma Cannon Specialist* CEO of Corrosive Synergy
Weary Guy 94	Posted - 2015.05.29 11:12:00 - [17] - Quote i'm pretty sure the counter to sax is a squad of gal logi's....his rage will fill his head, makingit burst into flames and causing him to suicide over and over. musturd is always another counter....to, well anyone Alt char
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.05.29 11:43:00 - [18] - Quote Active scanners, as a concept, are fine though Saxon. They add an interesting layer of tactics and intel gathering to DUST. They could stand for a hard counter (dampeners) and something to prevent scan spamming. There was talk of dampeners reducing the duration a scanner lit you up as well as lowering your scan profile. I would be all for that. If you want to hide from scanners then damps should be a very hard counter. I think it is bullshit that someone can fit 4 scanners and use them all to effectively permascan. It has been suggested that scanning with one scanner should trigger the cooldown of all scanners on the dropsuit. That way, if you want to permascan an area you have to coordinate a squad, each person scanning back-to-back, requiring teamwork. That seems acceptable to me, if we can also reduce the cooldown a tad (5 - 15%). @Ripley_Riley "I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
ROMULUS H3X research lab 540	Posted - 2015.05.29 12:16:00 - [19] - Quote Weary Guy wrote: i'm pretty sure the counter to sax is a squad of gal logi's....his rage will fill his head, makingit burst into flames and causing him to suicide over and over. musturd is always another counter....to, well anyone I disagree with this entire statement. I have never failed to scan sax and locate him, so I don't even think a gal logi (much less a WHOLE sqwad) is ever necessary. And the best way to spread musturd is on a KNUCKLE SANDWICH! FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 12:27:00 - [20] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Fix scanners! one piece of equipment should not pick up the whole enemy team its redonculus, i know people will just be like "well dampen up" so your telling me my whole team has to go in low 'ehp suits with even less hp cos of the need for damps just to get away from the one guy with a 200m range scanner scanning my team. This is the stupidest thing ever added into the game, i mean it even shows which way an enemy player is facing on the radar. So stupid. You get scanned and i say: Time to fight like big man you coward! Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.

Deadly Goliath Omega Warlords 79	Posted - 2015.05.29 12:32:00 - [21] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Fix scanners! one piece of equipment should not pick up the whole enemy team its redonculus, i know people will just be like "well dampen up" so your telling me my whole team has to go in low 'ehp suits with even less hp cos of the need for damps just to get away from the one guy with a 200m range scanner scanning my team. This is the stupidest thing ever added into the game, i mean it even shows which way an enemy player is facing on the radar. So stupid. Not the whole team, just a few guys and then these guys will flank, the enemies would be distracted by all the red on their screen. But yeh scanners are kind of OP. I'll whip ya head boy
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 3	Posted - 2015.05.29 12:35:00 - [22] - Quote Remove TAC NET. .emag nug ym tpecxe gnihtyreve sexif gnikamhctam RDK
m621 zma 335	Posted - 2015.05.29 12:45:00 - [23] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Didn't you already make this thread before...? Haven't you realised, being a fgt is not a choice.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 13:03:00 - [24] - Quote saxonmish wrote: I've decided i will just skill into them and put one on every single one of my suits, just so people can feel my pain and cry about them. i will skill into gal logi, with scans and get everyone crying for a nerf. im now in a mission to nerf scanners. I will also make loads of video's with it so everyone will see how easy mode it is and do it themselves, then with everyone overusing the scanner it will get a destructive nerf just like the CQC RR did King Thunderbolt reasoning here. CCP has yet to nerf or buff anything because youtube. If anything, you might get the gal logi nerfed using it as a slayer. Everybody get scanned. Everybody finds a way to deal with it. Either scan em back or assasinate the gal logi. You do realize that in a gal logi or any scan fit, that you can/will be scanned right back. That the 'YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED' message isnt going away. All it does is put both teams on radar. When that happens, nobody cares about stopping the gal logi 200m away, but if i can warn my team within 100m about the mass of assaults and scouts headed their way while i rep em, then i've done my job. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. "I sometimes wonder why I share stuff "- CCP Rattati
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 710	Posted - 2015.05.29 14:33:00 - [25] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Active scanners, as a concept, are fine though Saxon. They add an interesting layer of tactics and intel gathering to DUST. They could stand for a hard counter (dampeners) and something to prevent scan spamming. There was talk of dampeners reducing the duration a scanner lit you up as well as lowering your scan profile. I would be all for that. If you want to hide from scanners then damps should be a very hard counter. I think it is bullshit that someone can fit 4 scanners and use them all to effectively permascan. It has been suggested that scanning with one scanner should trigger the cooldown of all scanners on the dropsuit. That way, if you want to permascan an area you have to coordinate a squad, each person scanning back-to-back, requiring teamwork. That seems acceptable to me, if we can also reduce the cooldown a tad (5 - 15%). Kind and insightful words from your future CPM, ladies and gentlemen.... Saying what's on people's minds
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H No Context 777	Posted - 2015.05.29 14:37:00 - [26] - Quote jordy mack wrote: do you think maybe ppl are trolling you and making sure that you stay scanned for the whole match, because they see your name and know what your guna do if they dont. (bons shotgun vid) and also maybe because you asked them not to.(this thread) ? just a thought :) I know I do. If someone is on to you, you aren't really that good anymore. It only when noobs are not paying any attention and worrying about the actual game that one player can exploit that to get his kills rather than cap. Commando suit for everything adds to the easy mode. The CPM candidate we need, not the one we want. The candidate for the rest of us.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.05.29 14:38:00 - [27] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Fix scanners! one piece of equipment should not pick up the whole enemy team its redonculus, i know people will just be like "well dampen up" so your telling me my whole team has to go in low 'ehp suits with even less hp cos of the need for damps just to get away from the one guy with a 200m range scanner scanning my team. This is the stupidest thing ever added into the game, i mean it even shows which way an enemy player is facing on the radar. So stupid. So you want your whole team to be invisible to all scans? Looking at both sides of the coin. Even Aurum one.
Banjo Robertson Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 639	Posted - 2015.05.29 14:38:00 - [28] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Fix scanners! one piece of equipment should not pick up the whole enemy team its redonculus, i know people will just be like "well dampen up" so your telling me my whole team has to go in low 'ehp suits with even less hp cos of the need for damps just to get away from the one guy with a 200m range scanner scanning my team. This is the stupidest thing ever added into the game, i mean it even shows which way an enemy player is facing on the radar. So stupid. As your videos show, you are a guy who likes to run around in different suits and fittings and try different stuff, so it surprises me that you'd be against scanners instead of having your team use them as well.
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H No Context 777	Posted - 2015.05.29 14:39:00 - [29] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: saxonmish wrote: Fix scanners! one piece of equipment should not pick up the whole enemy team its redonculus, i know people will just be like "well dampen up" so your telling me my whole team has to go in low 'ehp suits with even less hp cos of the need for damps just to get away from the one guy with a 200m range scanner scanning my team. This is the stupidest thing ever added into the game, i mean it even shows which way an enemy player is facing on the radar. So stupid. So you want your whole team to be invisible to all scans? Makes it easier for him to look awesome in his videos. God forbid he'd post a real match where he has to deal with real resistence. The CPM candidate we need, not the one we want. The candidate for the rest of us.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7	Posted - 2015.05.29 14:47:00 - [30] - Quote If you're caught from 200m away, that means you have a profile greater than 28 (21 of Gallente logistics). Two complex Dampeners on a scout ought to do the trick. If everyone is running one, why aren't you? It would mean that the opposition would have to damp, as Dreis said.



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