DUST Search - Stupid Scanners

saxonmish wrote:

LT SHANKS wrote:

I agree. Scanners are total bullshit: especially on a level 5 GalLogi. I will admit, I also have a Proto GalLogi with two Creodron Flux Scanners, almost 900 eHP, 20+ hp/s reps, and a fully skilled Boundless CR while only having a 2% speed penalty. The thing seldom dies if playing with a decent team while singlehandedly providing permanent scans for everyone to see. In a sense, it's quite the easy mode fit to use despite its costly price.

With a general "slayer" type setup and a combination of competent players, the GalLogi can and will win games just because of its ability to scan. Sure, dampened Scouts can get under the radar, but they are easy enough to deal with once someone catches them. Every other player, however, is subjected to an annoying "You have been scanned" message for the entirety of a game.

Damn those Japanese players. They made me do it. I wouldn't have invested any points into my GalLogi nor scanners if they hadn't kept spamming scans 24/7 themselves.

I've decided i will just skill into them and put one on every single one of my suits, just so people can feel my pain and cry about them. i will skill into gal logi, with scans and get everyone crying for a nerf. im now in a mission to nerf scanners. I will also make loads of video's with it so everyone will see how easy mode it is and do it themselves, then with everyone overusing the scanner it will get a destructive nerf just like the CQC RR did

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Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 14:52:00 - [31] - Quote People that complain about scans cant fight face to face and need to rely on scrub tactics like using a scout with a shotgun shoting people in the back. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2	Posted - 2015.05.29 15:12:00 - [32] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: People that complain about scans cant fight face to face and need to rely on scrub tactics like using a scout with a shotgun shoting people in the back. In my defense and yours, shotgun hit detection has been off more lately. Also, while im shooting you in the back like im supposed to, im also enjoying my 'SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED' message. You do realize you hate one of the counters too scanners in the first place? To Sax, damp up, or just kill them and watch your back more. Minmatar-Daredevil, blind, smart, resourceful, breaks faces GET UP Back to where it began
Diablo Gamekeeper Escrow Removal and Acquisition No Context 295	Posted - 2015.05.29 19:44:00 - [33] - Quote I will make a little comment right here. We have technology today that can detect people and work exactly like the scanner. In the New Eden world, they are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more technologically advanced then us. Why would it make sense to have scanners that suck more then our today scanners in RL? I have DESTROYED CCP Rattati
Patt MaCrotch Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 135	Posted - 2015.05.29 20:43:00 - [34] - Quote Scanners are working as they should. Just because you can't sneak up on people anymore with two reppers and a Darth's to shoot your nifty little videos doesn't mean that something is broke.
Radiant Pancake3 Y.A.M.A.H No Context 86	Posted - 2015.05.29 20:50:00 - [35] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Fix scanners! one piece of equipment should not pick up the whole enemy team its redonculus, i know people will just be like "well dampen up" so your telling me my whole team has to go in low 'ehp suits with even less hp cos of the need for damps just to get away from the one guy with a 200m range scanner scanning my team. This is the stupidest thing ever added into the game, i mean it even shows which way an enemy player is facing on the radar. So stupid. Meh. I am the Clown of Ass or am I the Ass of Clown... o.O Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Minmatar Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Nestil Nos Nothi 286	Posted - 2015.05.29 21:20:00 - [36] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Fix scanners! one piece of equipment should not pick up the whole enemy team its redonculus, i know people will just be like "well dampen up" so your telling me my whole team has to go in low 'ehp suits with even less hp cos of the need for damps just to get away from the one guy with a 200m range scanner scanning my team. This is the stupidest thing ever added into the game, i mean it even shows which way an enemy player is facing on the radar. So stupid. Karma is a *****, isn't it :P?! 'LR4-Trading' Protester
se7enSAINTSVII 0	Posted - 2015.05.29 21:25:00 - [37] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Fix scanners! one piece of equipment should not pick up the whole enemy team its redonculus, i know people will just be like "well dampen up" so your telling me my whole team has to go in low 'ehp suits with even less hp cos of the need for damps just to get away from the one guy with a 200m range scanner scanning my team. This is the stupidest thing ever added into the game, i mean it even shows which way an enemy player is facing on the radar. So stupid. Totally agree; they should just have passive scan for squads and that's it, but everyone getting scans is stupid stupid stupid. its annoying i was using my pro min scout nova knifing ,(on main account using alt cos i have been banned on forum ) everyone and a ** 4 mins into the match releases doom with a pro scanner he literally Fd me up the ass hole and tore me a new one from then because everyone saw me coming and 392 ehp isn't hard to kill, usually run with one pro damp but had to fit 2 damps to to deal with the scanning prick. the range of the scan isn't to bad but when coupled wit the everyone seeing you it's truly taking the **, when someone can scan from Banbury to Woodstock then that's just weird ;0 BendNOVA or Be Sliced and Diced
PLAYSTTION Corrosive Synergy No Context 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 22:37:00 - [38] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Active scanners, as a concept, are fine though Saxon. They add an interesting layer of tactics and intel gathering to DUST. They could stand for a hard counter (dampeners) and something to prevent scan spamming. There was talk of dampeners reducing the duration a scanner lit you up as well as lowering your scan profile. I would be all for that. If you want to hide from scanners then damps should be a very hard counter. I think it is bullshit that someone can fit 4 scanners and use them all to effectively permascan. It has been suggested that scanning with one scanner should trigger the cooldown of all scanners on the dropsuit. That way, if you want to permascan an area you have to coordinate a squad, each person scanning back-to-back, requiring teamwork. That seems acceptable to me, if we can also reduce the cooldown a tad (5 - 15%). I agree with the buff/change to damps. I agree that 4 scanners is insane. That last part though I don't. I suggest a stacking penalty on scanner recharge. The first one receives no change. the second has 10-20% longer recharge for both. 3rd 50-60% and 4th 80-90%. 2 scanners is acceptable to me (1 in front and one to get behind) but 4 to permascan is a bit much. Gassault Galogi Galsent Galmando Galscout `Open Beta Vet - 44 mil sp Director of Corrosive Synergy`
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 22:47:00 - [39] - Quote Sooo... This was the guy who wanted to be CPM? Bruh, if you want to get in you have to start making suggestions and do less rants. There are people here who don't even want to be CPM yet do a better job of this than you. PIE Lasers4life "That's one down!"- Forever ETC
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.05.30 16:02:00 - [40] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: saxonmish wrote: Fix scanners! one piece of equipment should not pick up the whole enemy team its redonculus, i know people will just be like "well dampen up" so your telling me my whole team has to go in low 'ehp suits with even less hp cos of the need for damps just to get away from the one guy with a 200m range scanner scanning my team. This is the stupidest thing ever added into the game, i mean it even shows which way an enemy player is facing on the radar. So stupid. So you want your whole team to be invisible to all scans? No i just dont think there should be an active scanner, passives are good enough. SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)

saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.05.30 16:05:00 - [41] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: People that complain about scans cant fight face to face and need to rely on scrub tactics like using a scout with a shotgun shoting people in the back. its not that i cant fight face to face cos i can, its the fact when you have a big bright arrow flashing above your head the whole enemy team wants a piece at the same time. SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.05.30 16:07:00 - [42] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: People that complain about scans cant fight face to face and need to rely on scrub tactics like using a scout with a shotgun shoting people in the back. its not that i cant fight face to face cos i can, its the fact when you have a big bright arrow flashing above your head the whole enemy team wants a piece at the same time. I bet you Bright Cloud was one of those people who raged that crouching in Halo took you off radar This thread is now a dance party ~ Dances Boldly ~ DUST STUFF
Archduke Ferd1nand Nos Nothi 503	Posted - 2015.05.30 16:20:00 - [43] - Quote saxonmish wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: I agree. Scanners are total bullshit: especially on a level 5 GalLogi. I will admit, I also have a Proto GalLogi with two Creodron Flux Scanners, almost 900 eHP, 20+ hp/s reps, and a fully skilled Boundless CR while only having a 2% speed penalty. The thing seldom dies if playing with a decent team while singlehandedly providing permanent scans for everyone to see. In a sense, it's quite the easy mode fit to use despite its costly price. With a general "slayer" type setup and a combination of competent players, the GalLogi can and will win games just because of its ability to scan. Sure, dampened Scouts can get under the radar, but they are easy enough to deal with once someone catches them. Every other player, however, is subjected to an annoying "You have been scanned" message for the entirety of a game. Damn those Japanese players. They made me do it. I wouldn't have invested any points into my GalLogi nor scanners if they hadn't kept spamming scans 24/7 themselves. I've decided i will just skill into them and put one on every single one of my suits, just so people can feel my pain and cry about them. i will skill into gal logi, with scans and get everyone crying for a nerf. im now in a mission to nerf scanners. I will also make loads of video's with it so everyone will see how easy mode it is and do it themselves, then with everyone overusing the scanner it will get a destructive nerf just like the CQC RR did YES. You're my hero. Sax for CPM 2 BRB, looking for socks PSN: tommygunboy2080 I shit shotgun shells and piss Remote Explosives
All Gucci T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 252	Posted - 2015.05.30 16:22:00 - [44] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: People that complain about scans cant fight face to face and need to rely on scrub tactics like using a scout with a shotgun shoting people in the back. lol people who defend scans are scared to go head to head, you will only attack the lone scanned red that's away from the group cause all of you lack the gun game to just run around and fight what ever you find..... like real men should. I'd rather have scout 514 and not scan 514 lol Director / Slayer / Emperor
Archduke Ferd1nand Nos Nothi 503	Posted - 2015.05.30 16:24:00 - [45] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: People that complain about scans cant fight face to face and need to rely on scrub tactics like using a scout with a shotgun shoting people in the back. its not that i cant fight face to face cos i can, its the fact when you have a big bright arrow flashing above your head the whole enemy team wants a piece at the same time. This. I can deal with one person in a 1v1 easily, even if they somehow sneak up on me. I can deal with 2 people at once fairly easily, as long as i know that they are coming for me. I can deal with 3 people if i have luck, remotes, and the advantage of surprise. What I can't deal with is 3+ people zerging on my position while being able to sneak up on me because my position AND orientation are permanently visible. Its such a stupidly overpowered advantage. Perma scan is a cancer to any FPS, and its high time that CCP removed it. They did a great job with removing it from passives (+1 CCP for that), but the Gal Logi has become the most valuable suit in the game simply because it did what the old Cal Scout did, but better, while being able to fit entirely for combat. BRB, looking for socks PSN: tommygunboy2080 I shit shotgun shells and piss Remote Explosives
Archduke Ferd1nand Nos Nothi 503	Posted - 2015.05.30 16:27:00 - [46] - Quote All Gucci wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: People that complain about scans cant fight face to face and need to rely on scrub tactics like using a scout with a shotgun shoting people in the back. lol people who defend scans are scared to go head to head, you will only attack the lone scanned red that's away from the group cause all of you lack the gun game to just run around and fight what ever you find..... like real men should. I'd rather have scout 514 and not scan 514 lol WTF...something coherent coming from All Gucci... BRB, looking for socks PSN: tommygunboy2080 I shit shotgun shells and piss Remote Explosives
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.05.30 16:45:00 - [47] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: I suggest a stacking penalty on scanner recharge. The first one receives no change. the second has 10-20% longer recharge for both. 3rd 50-60% and 4th 80-90%. 2 scanners is acceptable to me (1 in front and one to get behind) but 4 to permascan is a bit much. Interesting idea. I might suggest the stacking penalty numbers used for modules though. First scanner: No cooldown adjustment Second: +13% cooldown Third: +43% cooldown Fourth: +72% cooldown I only suggest these numbers because they exist somewhere in CCP's coding toolbox already so applying them might result in fewer bugs. @Ripley_Riley "I NEED NO PILLS I'M A FUCKING GOAT!" - Cat Merc
4lbert Wesker Mithril Forge E-R-A 215	Posted - 2015.05.30 16:54:00 - [48] - Quote So,when your team permascans enemy team then everything is okay,but when enemy team permascans your team then it's not okay... bad karma lol.... Public skirmish = camping games, Public domination = officer sniping games, Public ambush = russian roulette
Archduke Ferd1nand Nos Nothi 508	Posted - 2015.05.30 20:30:00 - [49] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: So,when your team permascans enemy team then everything is okay,but when enemy team permascans your team then it's not okay... bad karma lol.... No, when my team perma scans its boring and incredibly lopsided. BRB, looking for socks PSN: tommygunboy2080 I shit shotgun shells and piss Remote Explosives
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.05.30 20:35:00 - [50] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: So,when your team permascans enemy team then everything is okay,but when enemy team permascans your team then it's not okay... bad karma lol.... Hardly anyone in my corp runs or need scans to terminate the enemy team. SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)

maybe deadcatz Horizons' Edge No Context 1	Posted - 2015.05.30 20:43:00 - [51] - Quote Just limit scanners to one per fit like cloaks. Plus anyone wearing a gal logo suit or so much as has a rock that looks like a scanner marks himself for death when he scans me. Screw this ewar crap you pull out that piece of shart thing and i will never stop till i kill you my fits are cheap,what about yours? Its not that I should succeed,its that others should fail -maybedeadcatz
2Berries Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 888	Posted - 2015.05.30 21:09:00 - [52] - Quote saxonmish wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: I agree. Scanners are total bullshit: especially on a level 5 GalLogi. I will admit, I also have a Proto GalLogi with two Creodron Flux Scanners, almost 900 eHP, 20+ hp/s reps, and a fully skilled Boundless CR while only having a 2% speed penalty. The thing seldom dies if playing with a decent team while singlehandedly providing permanent scans for everyone to see. In a sense, it's quite the easy mode fit to use despite its costly price. With a general "slayer" type setup and a combination of competent players, the GalLogi can and will win games just because of its ability to scan. Sure, dampened Scouts can get under the radar, but they are easy enough to deal with once someone catches them. Every other player, however, is subjected to an annoying "You have been scanned" message for the entirety of a game. Damn those Japanese players. They made me do it. I wouldn't have invested any points into my GalLogi nor scanners if they hadn't kept spamming scans 24/7 themselves. I've decided i will just skill into them and put one on every single one of my suits, just so people can feel my pain and cry about them. i will skill into gal logi, with scans and get everyone crying for a nerf. im now in a mission to nerf scanners. I will also make loads of video's with it so everyone will see how easy mode it is and do it themselves, then with everyone overusing the scanner it will get a destructive nerf just like the CQC RR did Don't forget your tutu, you will need it if you will be doing the dance. Evening Boys, Hows the water?


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