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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.05.30 03:57:00 -
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While doing the brainwork here, please remember:
Having things even and progressions logical etc is nice.
Bear in mind that sometimes that is not enough; sometimes meta dictates that sometimes that does not bring equal nor balanced results.
A practical example which is also from Dust's history:
Even with even total slot counts,
A suit with many high slots is more powerful if the shield tanking meta is stronger (example: summer 2013)
A suit with more low slots is more powerful if armor tanking meta is prevalent (example winter 2013-2014 onward)
Sure mathematics and simple progressions give good base to start from.
We just can't expect them to be readily balanced results.
Looking at both sides of the coin.
Even Aurum one.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.05.30 04:31:00 -
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Kero's first set of comments:
- While Eq slots are the very heart of logis, if A-logi's role is to be more combatty, it is okay to sacrifice one Eq slot for the sidearm
- While the cald-logi was desiged in chromosome, it had extra fitting slot for no apparent reason. It has carried over, even through anti-slayer logi nerfs for some reason.
Cald-logis extra slot can be taken away with no reimbursement for it. BUT the cald-logi nevertheless needs some love for it's rather lacking role bonus.
- Any suit with just sidearm slot is in danger of being an unused gimmick. For that sacrifice there would have to be some truly awesome bonus.
- An already weak caldari logi should not be made a sidearm only suit. ESPECIALLY with only one weapon slot...
- The idea to make basic (non-specialized) suits have 2 Eq slots is good.
- It is okay to have different number of Eq slots (3/4)
- Scouts could do with one Eq slot
- I'm talking against my own playstyle here, but it really makes sense for logis to lose Grenade slot and leave it to suits more inclined to breaching places. Especially, as logis are the ones most likely to be able to supply their own spam hives.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.05.30 12:06:00 -
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Oh, and some weapons can be categorized as more supportive weapons
and having those weapons for logi fits neatly to it's purpose!
So that is one plus for having light arm PLUS sidearm combo.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.05.30 14:23:00 -
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Just realised.
If logis (or any other suit for that matter) have less HIs and LOWs,
then they will be unable to do have EWAR fits as those are created by stacking relevant modules.
...Not that passive scans are the logis' main function...
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.05.30 14:45:00 -
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Zaria Min Deir wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:
While the cald-logi was desiged in chromosome, it had extra fitting slot for no apparent reason. It has carried over, even through anti-slayer logi nerfs for some reason.
Cald-logis extra slot can be taken away with no reimbursement for it. BUT the cald-logi nevertheless needs some love for it's rather lacking role bonus.
Um. No, the Caldari logi has that extra module slot in exchange for having one less equipment than the Minmatar or Gallente. So, that extra slot being taken away should come with the missing equipment being added to it. And, yes, it also needs other things, like fixing the CPU for a start.
Ahh, my bad. I remembered This sheet from 07/05/2013
That focused on combat capabilities,
summing up the total fitting modules slots - but did not count Eqs for that.
Therefore listed value was 9 for ck.0, 6 for poor ak.0 and 8 for others.
Btw, if someone wants to look how OP and UP some suits of those were, have a look at bonuses listed on this sheet.
That was a good example by even looking at stats/bonus combo one can tell something was a slaying beast.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
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