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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.05.28 09:42:00 -
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Nade lost on logis and giving them all side arms instead would make them distinctively disadvantaged vs an assault.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.05.28 09:57:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Nade lost on logis and giving them all side arms instead would make them distinctively disadvantaged vs an assault. Logi's already have a disadvantage vs assaults though - HP & Regen. Flux grenades are way too useful, especially when dealing with glitchy equipment. I'm not sure if it's even possible but what would limiting logi's to flux grenades be like? What if we actually implemented grenade 'sizes', with heavies getting the 'large' grenade slots (special contact grenades/very nasty heavy av grenades), assaults getting the mediums (the current run of grenades), and logi's getting 'light' grenades (same radius but half damage?).
I am fearful that having grenade sizes would be a complexity for complexity's sake and will serve no real function.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.05.28 18:21:00 -
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Al the destroyer wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Nade lost on logis and giving them all side arms instead would make them distinctively disadvantaged vs an assault. ^^^^ this is NOT a good idea at all. A logi needs a grenade for tank spam and eguipment clearing!! I have said before as a logi I would be totally ok with sidearm only but if that's the case I believe we should get a speed AND an ehp buff. No one will want to be a slayer logi with a sidearm. If need be make it where a logi cannot carry locust grenades this would take care of lolcorespam  Most all dedicated logis would be ok with sidearm only.
Why not? Tanks can't do everything, LAVs cant do inverything, Sentinels can't do everything, why should logistics be able to do everything?
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.05.29 08:48:00 -
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Support/utility weapon slot
U designation on fitting screen
Can fit:
Side Arm
Light weapon (x% penalty to fitting)
Utility weapons
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.05.30 03:21:00 -
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I have a hard time believing the up link story....
Most uplinks I kill have no logis around them.
Most uplinks I get killed at have no logis near them.
How about this for a challenge?
Remove ALL weapon and grenade slots.
Balance them as they are without any consideration for any weapons in mind as they're not a weapon class to begin with.
Then decide which things to add back for the offensive kits.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.05.30 19:29:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I have a hard time believing the up link story....
Most uplinks I kill have no logis around them.
Most uplinks I get killed at have no logis near them.
How about this for a challenge?
Remove ALL weapon and grenade slots.
Balance them as they are without any consideration for any weapons in mind as they're not a weapon class to begin with.
Then decide which things to add back for the offensive kits. You're drunk, go home.
That doesn't change the fact that there are plenty of logi layouts that are very terrible for the given role slot and stat wise without weapons.
Thought experiment 2 the lot of you need to perform
Give Assaults and Logis the same H/L
assign them weapons and equipment slots to differentiate.
Justify it.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.05.30 20:03:00 -
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Thought experiment three
Give assaults +2 eq slots.
Make logi good at support under this environment.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.05.30 20:26:00 -
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Thought experiment 4
Remove EQ from Assaults
Justify using assaults over logis?
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.05.31 19:38:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
That doesn't change the fact that there are plenty of logi layouts that are very terrible for the given role slot and stat wise without weapons.
Thought experiment 2 the lot of you need to perform
Give Assaults and Logis the same H/L
assign them weapons and equipment slots to differentiate.
Justify it.
We aleready have this. Min Logi and Min assault has identical H/L. Min Assault is faster,more HP, and a sidearmm and is a slayer fit. Min Logi, is the OG logi. NBiether suit can be substituted for the other. Min Logi is terrible slayer fit, and sorry, you cant Logi properly with one equipment. System works just fine. Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Thought experiment three
Give assaults +2 eq slots.
Make logi good at support under this environment. Assault with more HP, speed, rep tool, needle. Assaults are now selfsuffecient and dont need logis, and can for the most part replace them. Its a stupid idea. Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Thought experiment 4
Remove EQ from Assaults
Justify using assaults over logis? Herp derp, err you can't? Really have you put any actual thought into these thought experiments? I dont think you're shitposting on purpose, but you might as well ask Breaking Stuff what he thinks about a Sentinel with a cloak, 5 equipment slots and a large blaster as a sidearm, or Dust Fiend what he thinks about Dropships with forgeguns as landing gear.
Thank you for affirming that you're the last person I need to listen to for any logi changes.
Your unwillingness to even skin a cat one way means you are not going to question exceptionally poor design decisions as long as it caters to you in a broken manner.
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