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Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC 552	Posted - 2015.05.13 03:10:00 - [1] - Quote The new matchmaking sucks. Revert to old. There just aren't enough players to have a "new matchmaking" system in effect.
Anvil 1 Chemical Renegades Inc. New Eden's Heros 3	Posted - 2015.05.13 03:11:00 - [2] - Quote My thread got closed cause of it lol. "There is only two things you should fear. Time, and fear itself. it appears you're out of time though." - Unknown
Matius Indectus Shadow of the Raven 25	Posted - 2015.05.13 03:12:00 - [3] - Quote Its very tricky posting on here, it could go either way. You just have be careful of your tone. If you can't read in between the lines, then what makes you think you can write?
Clone D Solo Zen 1779	Posted - 2015.05.13 03:21:00 - [4] - Quote I was added into the same battle multiple times after leaving it multiple times this morning. I think we are down to running one battle in each mode on regular cycles. This game is hurting bad.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11650	Posted - 2015.05.13 03:33:00 - [5] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: The new matchmaking sucks. Revert to old. There just aren't enough players to have a "new matchmaking" system in effect. Newsflash: Old matchmaking system is the very reason there aren't enough players right now for the new one to work. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC 553	Posted - 2015.05.13 04:31:00 - [6] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: The new matchmaking sucks. Revert to old. There just aren't enough players to have a "new matchmaking" system in effect. Newsflash: Old matchmaking system is the very reason there aren't enough players right now for the new one to work. Newsflash: Old matchmaking was the least of the problems. They have fixed a good bit of them. Now they just need to put people in battles together and not have 16v5 anymore.
Magewarlord KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 94	Posted - 2015.05.13 04:37:00 - [7] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: The new matchmaking sucks. Revert to old. There just aren't enough players to have a "new matchmaking" system in effect. Newsflash: Old matchmaking system is the very reason there aren't enough players right now for the new one to work. I disagree (and just posted this elsewhere). There aren't enough players because the old broken PC mechanics allowed the big corps to sit on a couple PC territories and earn millions of free ISK, then they would squad up and go out and use all the free proto gear they wanted to stomp the hell out of the general public, which left the public clamoring for some sort of match making to get away from these guys.
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC 554	Posted - 2015.05.13 04:40:00 - [8] - Quote Yes I bitched about being thrown into a losing battle. You know what though. That battle was almost over. Now I am getting thrown into a losing battle from the start. I see the warbarge and then 10-14 3 players leave. 7-14... another player leaves. and another player leaves.... 5-14. . . Blah has joined the battle, oh he's red...........5-15..... It's dumb. Just get rid of it and let us stomp noobs again and let the noobs skill up and then stomp other noobs. That is what the EVE universe is.
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC 554	Posted - 2015.05.13 04:43:00 - [9] - Quote Magewarlord wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: The new matchmaking sucks. Revert to old. There just aren't enough players to have a "new matchmaking" system in effect. Newsflash: Old matchmaking system is the very reason there aren't enough players right now for the new one to work. I disagree (and just posted this elsewhere). There aren't enough players because the old broken PC mechanics allowed the big corps to sit on a couple PC territories and earn millions of free ISK, then they would squad up and go out and use all the free proto gear they wanted to stomp the hell out of the general public, which left the public clamoring for some sort of match making to get away from these guys. Yeah, a meta based matchmaking. We don't have that. What we have now is a bastardization of matchmaking that pits, well I don't know how it works because I have never seen it actually work. It works by just not filling games up. That is how it works.
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 870	Posted - 2015.05.13 04:44:00 - [10] - Quote Clone D wrote: I was added into the same battle multiple times after leaving it multiple times this morning. Good. Have you concidered... You know... Not leaving?

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11655	Posted - 2015.05.13 04:45:00 - [11] - Quote Magewarlord wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: The new matchmaking sucks. Revert to old. There just aren't enough players to have a "new matchmaking" system in effect. Newsflash: Old matchmaking system is the very reason there aren't enough players right now for the new one to work. I disagree (and just posted this elsewhere). There aren't enough players because the old broken PC mechanics allowed the big corps to sit on a couple PC territories and earn millions of free ISK, then they would squad up and go out and use all the free proto gear they wanted to stomp the hell out of the general public, which left the public clamoring for some sort of match making to get away from these guys. According to the infinite number of complaints I heard from players quitting Dust, the old matchmaking system was the biggest turn off for them. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC 554	Posted - 2015.05.13 04:47:00 - [12] - Quote Regis Blackbird wrote: Clone D wrote: I was added into the same battle multiple times after leaving it multiple times this morning. Good. Have you concidered... You know... Not leaving? Why should I be forced to fight a battle I don't want to fight? If you want to go all risk v reward isn't the ability to leave battle and not be placed in it again the pinnacle of choosing your fight?
Magewarlord KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 95	Posted - 2015.05.13 04:51:00 - [13] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Magewarlord wrote: [quote=Maken Tosch][quote=Rowdy Railgunner]The new matchmaking sucks. Revert to old. There just aren't enough players to have a "new matchmaking" system in effect. According to the infinite number of complaints I heard from players quitting Dust, the old matchmaking system was the biggest turn off for them. I don't think they realized what was at the heart of the problem
WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars 387	Posted - 2015.05.13 04:51:00 - [14] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: The new matchmaking sucks. Revert to old. There just aren't enough players to have a "new matchmaking" system in effect. Newsflash: Old matchmaking system is the very reason there aren't enough players right now for the new one to work. Newsflash: Old matchmaking was the least of the problems. They have fixed a good bit of them. Now they just need to put people in battles together and not have 16v5 anymore. Many players are leaving battle cause reasons, before you were put into that battle a little later or before you noticed them leave. Rattati is probably trying to find a way to fix or bandage fix the problem.
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC 554	Posted - 2015.05.13 04:54:00 - [15] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Magewarlord wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: The new matchmaking sucks. Revert to old. There just aren't enough players to have a "new matchmaking" system in effect. Newsflash: Old matchmaking system is the very reason there aren't enough players right now for the new one to work. I disagree (and just posted this elsewhere). There aren't enough players because the old broken PC mechanics allowed the big corps to sit on a couple PC territories and earn millions of free ISK, then they would squad up and go out and use all the free proto gear they wanted to stomp the hell out of the general public, which left the public clamoring for some sort of match making to get away from these guys. According to the infinite number of complaints I heard from players quitting Dust, the old matchmaking system was the biggest turn off for them. Here is the thing though. How do you regulate it? In a game that gear matters? That faucet has been turned off. But now we have more BPOs than ever. See the thing I said a year ago is now happening. I am happy because it gives both ends recourse. Granted I only have 45 mil SP but. I think it should be everyone vs everyone. Those matches were way better than what we have now. Unless you play on a sunday. Sunday fills up all brackets.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11655	Posted - 2015.05.13 05:03:00 - [16] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Those matches were way better than what we have now. Unless you play on a sunday. Sunday fills up all brackets. I don't know about you and how your experience was in the past, but I had an extremely bad experience with the old matchmaking system compared to now. And I mean really bad. Just constantly being ground the dust or fed through a meat grinder or being the nail to the hammer because Scotty didn't know how to match me up properly back then. I'm actually experiencing better matches with the new system, though the team composition does tend to lean on the lopside from time to time because of quitters. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11656	Posted - 2015.05.13 05:09:00 - [17] - Quote Magewarlord wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Magewarlord wrote: [...] According to the infinite number of complaints I heard from players quitting Dust, the old matchmaking system was the biggest turn off for them. I don't think they realized what was at the heart of the problem That doesn't matter anymore. They left already. What matters now is that PC Districts are no longer ATM machines for corps to milk from like a cash cow and I'm starting to see a little more in regards to ISK sinks especially with Faction Warfare, trade fees, etc. Though I think there needs to be more sinks to make sure that the ISK flow is kept under control. I don't know how much ISK from the old District ATM days is still floating around today. I just hope it's in decline at this point. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 778	Posted - 2015.05.13 05:16:00 - [18] - Quote Searched almost an full hour total today without any deployment. Dust isnt my favourite game atm so i just wanna login and grind for a key or two, but no. All I get is endless searches for battle. I have hope though, two days ago I actually were in an ambush. Have you got anymore exploding carrots?
zDemoncake Horizons' Edge No Context 555	Posted - 2015.05.13 05:23:00 - [19] - Quote I just finished a game that started as a 10 vs 15. Another game I played prior to it was 8 vs 13. I never seem to have a 'good' match, only games that quickly become lopsided because of uneven teams. Players leaving battle is a problem itself, but from what I've faced, teams are usually uneven to begin with. CEO of Horizons' Edge's mercenary division *My soul, your beats!* Enemy to many; equal to none.
Droopy Bawlz myrtle beach leap frogz 173	Posted - 2015.05.13 05:28:00 - [20] - Quote Regis Blackbird wrote: Clone D wrote: I was added into the same battle multiple times after leaving it multiple times this morning. Good. Have you concidered... You know... Not leaving? LOL Why would I stay in a losing already over match? If I get put in more than half through,,I am gone. There is no isk to be made and no sp to be earned in that short of a time period. Use your brain. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee925OTFBCA

Droopy Bawlz myrtle beach leap frogz 173	Posted - 2015.05.13 05:29:00 - [21] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: Searched almost an full hour total today without any deployment. Dust isnt my favourite game atm so i just wanna login and grind for a key or two, but no. All I get is endless searches for battle. I have hope though, two days ago I actually were in an ambush. I think today was kind of anomalies due to the recently deployed fixes. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee925OTFBCA
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 691	Posted - 2015.05.13 05:31:00 - [22] - Quote I have yet to see a difference. Is it because I am on Automatic server selection? CCP needs to just do auto select for everyone and further matchmake based on ping and whether your corp name is spanish or asian vs english. That'd pretty much take care of the problem right there. Death is a serious businessGÇª So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
DRAKEST HOUR Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 13	Posted - 2015.05.13 05:58:00 - [23] - Quote Where is the fork? This game is ******* done.
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC 558	Posted - 2015.05.14 01:22:00 - [24] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Those matches were way better than what we have now. Unless you play on a sunday. Sunday fills up all brackets. I don't know about you and how your experience was in the past, but I had an extremely bad experience with the old matchmaking system compared to now. And I mean really bad. Just constantly being ground the dust or fed through a meat grinder or being the nail to the hammer because Scotty didn't know how to match me up properly back then. I'm actually experiencing better matches with the new system, though the team composition does tend to lean on the lopside from time to time because of quitters. You have been in DUST UNI since I was and I know back then we were loading up matches. Don't tell me that your old MM experience was all bad because I know that is a lie.
thor424 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 182	Posted - 2015.05.14 01:32:00 - [25] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: The new matchmaking sucks. Revert to old. There just aren't enough players to have a "new matchmaking" system in effect. Newsflash: Old matchmaking system is the very reason there aren't enough players right now for the new one to work. Numbers have gone down since it was introduced. Thor's Emporium
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11664	Posted - 2015.05.14 03:40:00 - [26] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Those matches were way better than what we have now. Unless you play on a sunday. Sunday fills up all brackets. I don't know about you and how your experience was in the past, but I had an extremely bad experience with the old matchmaking system compared to now. And I mean really bad. Just constantly being ground the dust or fed through a meat grinder or being the nail to the hammer because Scotty didn't know how to match me up properly back then. I'm actually experiencing better matches with the new system, though the team composition does tend to lean on the lopside from time to time because of quitters. You have been in DUST UNI since I was and I know back then we were loading up matches. Don't tell me that your old MM experience was all bad because I know that is a lie. You would see that whenever we get into a squad if you were with me back then. However, remember that before MM was adjusted, I was mostly a solo player and very often I would find myself in many bad matches when I was solo. It seems to me that the only time I would have a good match is when I was with a squad. But after MM was adjusted, faction warfare saw a huge improvement in matches. Almost no one was leaving a match and everyone was doing their best even if they were losing. The funny thing about this is that FW doesn't even have matchmaking. It doesn't even have a teambuilder logic considering you can choose a side in FW. So this kind of cause me to scratch my head recently on why people were giving it their all in FW but not in Pubs even though FW doesn't even pay ISK. It turned out it has something to do with other incentives. Despite having no ISK payout, you can get far more salvage including any officer gear that your opponent wore when you killed them (if you're that lucky), you get more LP when winning, you have Eve-side OB support, and there is always someone to squad up with in key faction channels. There is also teamkilling which enables you to get rid of players who try to AFK in FW. You can also choose a side and a faction and always get put at the start of the match rather than halfway through it. Pubs don't give you much incentive to continue. Salvage is low, pay doesn't seem to be consistent, you sometimes get thrown into matches that have already started or almost about to finish, and there is nothing you can do about AFKers who put a rubber band on their controllers. This seems like something that no amount of matchmaking is ever going to address if the incentive to continue is not there. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy


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