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Tyjus Vacca
Valor Coalition
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:05:00 -
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it has range and DPS why ?
sniper changes !!? O_o
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Archduke Ferd1nand
Nos Nothi
419
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:07:00 -
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CCP
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1343
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:12:00 -
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Cuz Amarrians have better technology than gals.
Also it's simple. Laser hurts more than a 'melted plastic shot' or simplier plasma shot.
Caldari Loyalist
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
No Context
1261
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:15:00 -
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Because amarrians suck and need OP weapons to stand a chance against us minmatars
Even still we whoop them amarrian scum
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1047
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:22:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:Because amarrians suck and need OP weapons to stand a chance against us minmatars
Even still we whoop them amarrian scum
Are you referring to the Academy Grauduates that get thrown into Caldari and Amarr FW?
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Lasers4life
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
2136
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:25:00 -
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Tyjus Vacca wrote:it has range and DPS why ?
They are trying to balance a anti-shield weapon so it's good at taking out armor. LOL, and in the process they completely screwed over shield tankers.
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
1008
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:31:00 -
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A ScR = Its Trash. The Scrambler Rifle = Its where its at.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18828
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:37:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:A ScR = Its Trash. The Scrambler Rifle = Its where its at.
......Are you tripping buddy?
Learn to Amarr.
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
- Mobius Wyvern
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
1008
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:55:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:A ScR = Its Trash. The Scrambler Rifle = Its where its at. ......Are you tripping buddy? Learn to Amarr.
The Assault Scrambler is just spray and prey = <.< easy kills.
The Scrambler Rifle = It requires aiming and timing before it over heats.
I've killed more Amarr proto n00bs = results in great hate mail = its not my problem why they die soo easily.
The more targets the better the fights = usually means more victories. Don't take my word for it. 
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
9965
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:56:00 -
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Relevant: http://i.imgur.com/VisxtML.png
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Starlight Burner
Arrary of Clusters
233
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:58:00 -
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The AScR and CR will have their day soon.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18829
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Posted - 2015.05.07 02:00:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:The AScR and CR will have their day soon.
You mean for nerfs? Do you know why the AScR was buffed in the first place? Because it was garbage and could not be used in the current meta. I'll admit it was over much a nerf but still.
I'd say its needs a tuning not a nerf.
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Satori Particle
Ordine Inritus
46
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Posted - 2015.05.07 02:15:00 -
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I think it needs a slight rate of fire tweak. I hate scramblers as much as the next guy but let's keep it real. |
Starlight Burner
Arrary of Clusters
234
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Posted - 2015.05.07 02:16:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:The AScR and CR will have their day soon. You mean for nerfs? Do you know why the AScR was buffed in the first place? Because it was garbage and could not be used in the current meta. I'll admit it was over much a nerf but still. I'd say its needs a tuning not a nerf.
I wasn't meaning nerfing it to the ground. I want them tuned correctly. I wish things got buffed and nerfed in increments.
2 weeks with each tune, then adjust.
Plenty of data in 2w.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9775
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Posted - 2015.05.07 02:29:00 -
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On top of laser profile and overheating with very long seize time, it has terrible dispersion and no sharp shooter skill to correct this.
Amarr are the good guys
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Jammer Jalapeno
Dox You.
Proficiency V.
216
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Posted - 2015.05.07 02:33:00 -
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Tyjus Vacca wrote:it has range and DPS why ?
I think it really depends on the type of AR you are using sir.
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
L.O.T.I.S.
481
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Posted - 2015.05.07 04:23:00 -
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AScR = Noobs, Scrubs, and People who want it Easy.
ScR = Vets, Killers, Me, The OP
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18836
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Posted - 2015.05.07 04:27:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:AScR = Noobs, Scrubs, and People who want it Easy.
ScR = Vets, Killers, Me, The OP
Are you sure you don't have it the wrong way around...... I mean two weeks ago I'm pretty sure everyone on this forum had a hard of for telling people who used the standard variant that they were scrubs.......
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Grimmiers
860
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Posted - 2015.05.07 04:31:00 -
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ar falls right right on it's face after 1 step...
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18837
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Posted - 2015.05.07 04:45:00 -
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Grimmiers wrote:ar falls right right on it's face after 1 step...
Very confused as I can see what is supposed to happen with that graph but are you sure that the AScR starts losing damage at a shorter distance than the CR?
Theoretically it should have the 3rd highest DPS after the Combat Rifle, 2nd Longest Effective and Total Range, a pretty middling RoF, and ideally in my mind one of the best stabilities and lowest dispersions of all rifle weapons in the game.
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
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WeapondigitX V7
The Exemplars
380
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Posted - 2015.05.07 05:41:00 -
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ASCR still has a 6 second cooldown period without overheat.
ASCR still has a lot of ADS recoil, it throws your aim off target, despite the recoil being fake.
ASCR has higher fitting requirements, preventing the use of higher tier modules I 1 slot, or higher tier equipment or grenades etc.
std ASCR costs more ISK than std AR (not the breach AR), same for adv and PRO versions (but you should ignore that ISK factor)
AR can fire a full 70 rounds, reload in 2.5 seconds, fire 70 rounds, repeat.
The ASCR fires 70 rounds, needs 5-6 seconds to cooldown and reload, fires 70 rounds etc. That is less overall DPS over large time periods. The AR is better for frequent suppression fire and multiple enemy engagements because of this advantage. (I think the operation skill reduces it to 5 seconds, or does it reduce heat cost instead?)
The ASCR capabilities are changed based on suit, the AR does not have this disadvantage.
The AR probably does more damage to armor because of the hybrid damage profile.
ASCR also needs to reload and can overheat which can be problematic sometimes
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
389
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Posted - 2015.05.07 06:55:00 -
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Scrambler rifle is still my favourite weapon, the assault version makes me feel dirty when using it
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
8007
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Posted - 2015.05.07 07:13:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:Because amarrians suck and need OP weapons to stand a chance against us minmatars
Even still we whoop them amarrian scum
#MinmatardLogic
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
389
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Posted - 2015.05.07 07:20:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Bright Steel wrote:Because amarrians suck and need OP weapons to stand a chance against us minmatars
Even still we whoop them amarrian scum #MinmatardLogic
It's the Amarrian that are supposed to be condescending and full of themselves not the minmatar. That's not the case within this forums apparently
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nelo kazuma
THE LAST H0PE.
RUST415
157
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Posted - 2015.05.07 08:25:00 -
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Like the chart just shows exactly whats wrong with dmg on scr. The ascr takes a plunge in range prof at 60 and so on but since this is assault varient its meant to since its range loss is compensated by fire rate which is good not meant to be effective long range also y it has auto fire. The scr however can reach same fire rate with quick trigger finger (or turbo controller) larger distance and range proficiency and dps greater with charge shot. Overheating not even an issue with amar assault so y this is the way it is is ridiculous. When the weapon does get nerfed (and it will) I hope the amount of armor damage it does is lowered cuz why it being a shield based weapon to do more than rr or cr makes no sense. But more importantly fire rate needs major nerf more specifically time between shots the weapon has a charge shot for a reason. Its meant to be a long range weapon y it can fire as fast as assault version makess ascr pointless to use and purposeless when the regular scr is better in every aspect. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
5886
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Posted - 2015.05.07 08:33:00 -
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Tyjus Vacca wrote:it has range and DPS why ?
Because it was a really bad weapon before, and it still loses to armor meta.
Usually banned for being too awesome.
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
2076
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Posted - 2015.05.07 09:01:00 -
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because the typical amarr scum is a scrub and ignoramus. he cant improve and giving him advice is futile and as such they need handouts to make their scrub life a bit more enjoyable.
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Francois Sanchez
Prima Gallicus
439
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Posted - 2015.05.07 09:02:00 -
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Both scrambler weapons are OP, the only reason they haven't been hammer nerfed is the armour meta. |
Regnier Feros
Pielords
335
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Posted - 2015.05.07 09:52:00 -
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I remember when noone even bothered with the AScr.
Just wait till the tac/burst ar buff.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8433
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Posted - 2015.05.07 10:13:00 -
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Francois Sanchez wrote:Both scrambler weapons are OP, the only reason they haven't been hammer nerfed is the armour meta.
They're probably the main reason why there is no shield meta. Recursive argument.
There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2731
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Posted - 2015.05.07 11:28:00 -
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Very. o7
PSN: RationalSpark
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2731
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Posted - 2015.05.07 11:31:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:The AScR and CR will have their day soon. You mean for nerfs? Do you know why the AScR was buffed in the first place? Because it was garbage and could not be used in the current meta. I'll admit it was over much a nerf but still. I'd say its needs a tuning not a nerf.
AScR isn't a problem. The SR is the 2+ year old problem.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
53
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Posted - 2015.05.07 13:03:00 -
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AScR is great but have you noticed the over spam of CR out there.
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Tebu Gan
Capital Acquisitions LLC
1412
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Posted - 2015.05.07 14:42:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:A ScR = Its Trash. The Scrambler Rifle = Its where its at. ......Are you tripping buddy? Learn to Amarr.
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Tyjus Vacca
Valor Coalition
331
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Posted - 2015.05.07 14:52:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Tyjus Vacca wrote:it has range and DPS why ? Because it was a really bad weapon before, and it still loses to armor meta.
As a shield tanker I call BS, the weapon before performed adequately against shield suits now its completely unfair and outperforms the AR in every catagory.
sniper changes !!? O_o
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