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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.29 10:56:00 -
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I have a starter fit that I am not even able to use because I don't have enough PG to use it.
Probably old news but then again I very rarely play as infantry and I was deleting my fits and then I noticed this.
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
21475
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Posted - 2015.04.29 11:35:00 -
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These were discontinued, and replaced with the Recon for new players.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
1088
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Posted - 2015.04.29 11:39:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:These were discontinued, and replaced with the Recon for new players. Oh, may I ask then why they weren't changed for old players then? I mean... I'm a living example that not all old players have upgraded their infantry skills.
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
623
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Posted - 2015.04.29 11:44:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:These were discontinued, and replaced with the Recon for new players. Oh, may I ask then why they weren't changed for old players then? I mean... I'm a living example that not all old players have upgraded their infantry skills.
Upgrade one item in that fitting to basic and then it works.
http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.29 11:46:00 -
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STYLIE77 wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:These were discontinued, and replaced with the Recon for new players. Oh, may I ask then why they weren't changed for old players then? I mean... I'm a living example that not all old players have upgraded their infantry skills. Upgrade one item in that fitting to basic and then it works. So turn a starter fit into a non-starter fit? Got it... oh wait, what was the point of starter fits again?
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
1523
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Posted - 2015.04.29 11:59:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:STYLIE77 wrote:
Upgrade one item in that fitting to basic and then it works.
So turn a starter fit into a non-starter fit? Got it... oh wait, what was the point of starter fits again?
Pretty sure the point of starter fits was to be used as a starter fit by new players who do not have the sp/isk for anything better |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8284
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Posted - 2015.04.29 12:30:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote: Pretty sure the point of starter fits was to be used as a starter fit by new players who do not have the sp/isk for anything better
No sir, those clueless newbie engines would actually be referred to more commonly as "Assault DropShips"
AV
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.29 12:44:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:STYLIE77 wrote:
Upgrade one item in that fitting to basic and then it works.
So turn a starter fit into a non-starter fit? Got it... oh wait, what was the point of starter fits again? Pretty sure the point of starter fits was to be used as a starter fit by new players who do not have the sp/isk for anything better
So old players with no SP/ISK for anything better (for infantry) are not allowed to use those?
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
758
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Posted - 2015.04.29 12:47:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:MrShooter01 wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:STYLIE77 wrote:
Upgrade one item in that fitting to basic and then it works.
So turn a starter fit into a non-starter fit? Got it... oh wait, what was the point of starter fits again? Pretty sure the point of starter fits was to be used as a starter fit by new players who do not have the sp/isk for anything better So old players with no SP/ISK for anything better (for infantry) are not allowed to use those?
No, they can be refit.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
5448
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Posted - 2015.04.29 12:49:00 -
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If you really need to use a starter fit, run the medic It has the same stats as the assault suit, just one less slot and two equipment.
In other words, a basic assault with two equipment slots.
Why the heck would you want to use a mlt sniper anyways?
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2892
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Posted - 2015.04.29 12:51:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:These were discontinued, and replaced with the Recon for new players.
Speaking of that recon. Shotgun & nova knives is terrrrrrible. Shotgun & smg is much better.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8284
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Posted - 2015.04.29 12:53:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:MrShooter01 wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:STYLIE77 wrote:
Upgrade one item in that fitting to basic and then it works.
So turn a starter fit into a non-starter fit? Got it... oh wait, what was the point of starter fits again? Pretty sure the point of starter fits was to be used as a starter fit by new players who do not have the sp/isk for anything better So old players with no SP/ISK for anything better (for infantry) are not allowed to use those? if you can't afford a STD grade module or weapon for every fit you own you have bigger problems than a starter fit can cure.
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
904
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Posted - 2015.04.29 12:59:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:......Why the heck would you want to use a mlt sniper anyways? To take out Thales users.
AKA - StarVenger- Horizons' Edge
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.29 13:15:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:MrShooter01 wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:STYLIE77 wrote:
Upgrade one item in that fitting to basic and then it works.
So turn a starter fit into a non-starter fit? Got it... oh wait, what was the point of starter fits again? Pretty sure the point of starter fits was to be used as a starter fit by new players who do not have the sp/isk for anything better So old players with no SP/ISK for anything better (for infantry) are not allowed to use those? if you can't afford a STD grade module or weapon for every fit you own you have bigger problems than a starter fit can cure. So if I don't have any fits of my own... am I still supposed to be able to afford STD stuff for everything I could potentially own if I had invested my SP into infantry?
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
625
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Posted - 2015.04.29 13:20:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:If you really need to use a starter fit, run the medic It has the same stats as the assault suit, just one less slot and two equipment.
In other words, a basic assault with two equipment slots.
Why the heck would you want to use a mlt sniper anyways?
The Starter Medic is OP!!!
http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
548
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Posted - 2015.04.29 15:02:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:MrShooter01 wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:STYLIE77 wrote:
Upgrade one item in that fitting to basic and then it works.
So turn a starter fit into a non-starter fit? Got it... oh wait, what was the point of starter fits again? Pretty sure the point of starter fits was to be used as a starter fit by new players who do not have the sp/isk for anything better So old players with no SP/ISK for anything better (for infantry) are not allowed to use those?
GǪ... GǪ... MarasdF, your posts are starting to READ as if you are feeling abused or offended or objectionable to the changes. There really isn't a problem for you, if you study the new layouts and new "starter-style" fits that have been inserted.
None of us, especially players who have been at this game more than 8 months, should expect the "free" items to stay preserved exactly as they were year after year. They will (they SHOULD) change just like other advanced/proto/etc items keep periodically altering. It's just a coincidence that the starter-fit you're asking about is the SNIPER starter fit. This was a fit that CCP realized new players were grabbing and clutching onto as a means of withdrawing from more demanding participation in the matches. "Starter -Sniper" had to be replaced with a more "get out there into the action of the map" kind of player activity.
But regardless, if you're like the rest of us who have been in the game enough to support a budget-war (I think you have enough in your wallet to fit that description by now), you'll find that you REALLY outgrown and don't need those starter-suits anymore. Newberrys, yes, they need, for their Militia-trying journey. But you, no.
Shop through the marketplace, and replace each of your starter fit suits with a Standard-Loadout Suit or a Basic Suit that closely matches it, and duplicate all your fav gear/mods on THEM. Don't hold onto Starter Fits anymore. A Standard or Basic suit barely costs you 3000 ISK more, and it gives you an extra slot somewhere that your starter suits didn't have.
Like Mina Longstrike said on a thread recently, it's really hard for players to recognize the point in their development where they need to completely TOSS OUT their Militia and Starter stuff---because to continue using them is actually hurting and holding them back.
Your problem with the Sniper Starter Fit is no-worries, MarasdF. It may be just a helpful push out of the nest.
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
No story can have life without writers and publishers.
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Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
532
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Posted - 2015.04.29 15:06:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:These were discontinued, and replaced with the Recon for new players. Can you sell in the market place the BPO new Recon fits for the old vet players that spend money on the game. I would gladly buy starter fits that i don't have. |
MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.29 15:17:00 -
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CELESTA AUNGM wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:MrShooter01 wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:STYLIE77 wrote:
Upgrade one item in that fitting to basic and then it works.
So turn a starter fit into a non-starter fit? Got it... oh wait, what was the point of starter fits again? Pretty sure the point of starter fits was to be used as a starter fit by new players who do not have the sp/isk for anything better So old players with no SP/ISK for anything better (for infantry) are not allowed to use those? GǪ... GǪ... MarasdF, your posts are starting to READ as if you are feeling abused or offended or objectionable to the changes. There really isn't a problem for you, if you study the new layouts and new "starter-style" fits that have been inserted. None of us, especially players who have been at this game more than 8 months, should expect the "free" items to stay preserved exactly as they were year after year. They will (they SHOULD) change just like other advanced/proto/etc items keep periodically altering. It's just a coincidence that the starter-fit you're asking about is the SNIPER starter fit. This was a fit that CCP realized new players were grabbing and clutching onto as a means of withdrawing from more demanding participation in the matches. "Starter -Sniper" had to be replaced with a more "get out there into the action of the map" kind of player activity. But regardless, if you're like the rest of us who have been in the game enough to support a budget-war (I think you have enough in your wallet to fit that description by now ), you'll find that you REALLY outgrown and don't need those starter-suits anymore. Newberrys, yes, they need, for their Militia-trying journey. But you, no. Shop through the marketplace, and replace each of your starter fit suits with a Standard-Loadout Suit or a Basic Suit that closely matches it, and duplicate all your fav gear/mods on THEM. Don't hold onto Starter Fits anymore. A Standard or Basic suit barely costs you 3000 ISK more, and it gives you an extra slot somewhere that your starter suits didn't have. Like Mina Longstrike said on a thread recently, it's really hard for players to recognize the point in their development where they need to completely TOSS OUT their Militia and Starter stuff---because to continue using them is actually hurting and holding them back. Your problem with the Sniper Starter Fit is no-worries, MarasdF. It may be just a helpful push out of the nest. Well, this post was so thought out that it demands a serious answer from me. Me? Being serious? ... Get out of here.
Anyway.
In my OP I was actually worried about new players (lol, yeah right), I'm serious. Then Rattati comes in and tells me that those fits are no longer given to new players. At that point all I wanted to know why old players get to keep them if new players can't get those anymore... After all they are just starter suits, not some super rare BPC or BPO that only a handfull of veterans have.
About your points: I don't swim in ISK, I'm actually VERY poor player, that's what tanking addiction does, especially proto tanking addiction. Combined with how terrible framerate and lag I get all day, every day in Dust. So if I didn't have BPOs or some occasional help from people I would indeed be using those starter suits to make ISK to be able to use my tanks. As I haven't been part of PC for a very long time.
I remember a time when my std tanks cost more than my current proto and I didn't have a problem with ISK, even without PC. But that is not the point here. Point is, I'm poor, I have no ISK and no infantry SP... wait, even that is not the real point here. Real point is I just wanted to know why we get to keep those old starter fits instead of being replaced with the new ones.
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Balistyc Farshot
OUTCAST MERCS General Tso's Alliance
158
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Posted - 2015.04.29 16:57:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:MrShooter01 wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:STYLIE77 wrote:
Upgrade one item in that fitting to basic and then it works.
So turn a starter fit into a non-starter fit? Got it... oh wait, what was the point of starter fits again? Pretty sure the point of starter fits was to be used as a starter fit by new players who do not have the sp/isk for anything better So old players with no SP/ISK for anything better (for infantry) are not allowed to use those? if you can't afford a STD grade module or weapon for every fit you own you have bigger problems than a starter fit can cure.
I agree with this, so much. Starter fits are for starters. You may have spec'd into vehicles but you should be able to make a cheap fitting from militia or basic gear. My cheap fittings are under 5k per suit and all basic.
From Logi, to Heavy, to Scout, now I am moving to ADS. Please stop balancing!
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
629
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Posted - 2015.04.29 16:58:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:MrShooter01 wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:STYLIE77 wrote:
Upgrade one item in that fitting to basic and then it works.
So turn a starter fit into a non-starter fit? Got it... oh wait, what was the point of starter fits again? Pretty sure the point of starter fits was to be used as a starter fit by new players who do not have the sp/isk for anything better So old players with no SP/ISK for anything better (for infantry) are not allowed to use those? if you can't afford a STD grade module or weapon for every fit you own you have bigger problems than a starter fit can cure.
Indeed...
http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
630
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Posted - 2015.04.29 17:04:00 -
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Balistyc Farshot wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:MrShooter01 wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote: So turn a starter fit into a non-starter fit? Got it... oh wait, what was the point of starter fits again?
Pretty sure the point of starter fits was to be used as a starter fit by new players who do not have the sp/isk for anything better So old players with no SP/ISK for anything better (for infantry) are not allowed to use those? if you can't afford a STD grade module or weapon for every fit you own you have bigger problems than a starter fit can cure. I agree with this, so much. Starter fits are for starters. You may have spec'd into vehicles but you should be able to make a cheap fitting from militia or basic gear. My cheap fittings are under 5k per suit and all basic.
I have militia module BPO's from the beta... so I have some fits that are literally free and one that is 765 isk to run
Militia Gallente Medium
Dren Assault rifle (several bpo variants of this gun) Toxin SMG Militia Armor Plates x3 Militia Nanite Injector Militia Flux Grenade
The suit has a 5 HP/s Armor repair rate so I opted out of a repair module or even ferroscale.
With 693 ehp w/ skills the suit is just used in special cases that I am not out in the open but a heavy isn't working out.
http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
1096
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Posted - 2015.04.29 17:11:00 -
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Too much stupid here.
Rattati or someone, lock this shiet up.
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