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Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5785	Posted - 2015.04.28 17:06:00 - [31] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This is partly related to my thoughts about moving Skirmish completely over to FW and granting ISK payouts I'm not a huge fan of that only because Skirm is the only game mode I play, and as a solo pilot I'm not a huge fan of sitting in FW queue for 15 minutes just to get trolled by teammates :/ If Skirm and Dom were combined as the OP suggested I would simply leave Dom games as I joined them. That is a risk, that leaving thing. One more reason for ppl to make an early leave. So punish them. Anyhow, I wouldn't mind if skirm was combined with FW and isk payout was a thing. But I think it would be appropriate at that point to get rid of friendly fire and leave that for PC. Usually banned for being too awesome.
DUST Fiend 16730	Posted - 2015.04.28 17:08:00 - [32] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This is partly related to my thoughts about moving Skirmish completely over to FW and granting ISK payouts I'm not a huge fan of that only because Skirm is the only game mode I play, and as a solo pilot I'm not a huge fan of sitting in FW queue for 15 minutes just to get trolled by teammates :/ If Skirm and Dom were combined as the OP suggested I would simply leave Dom games as I joined them. That is a risk, that leaving thing. One more reason for ppl to make an early leave. So punish them. Yea, how dare we want to enjoy the game. Force people to play what YOU want them to play, then PUNISH them for disagreeing with you! It sounds like a certain system of government actually....I think it worked wonderfully.... *"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."* STUFF
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5785	Posted - 2015.04.28 17:09:00 - [33] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This is partly related to my thoughts about moving Skirmish completely over to FW and granting ISK payouts I'm not a huge fan of that only because Skirm is the only game mode I play, and as a solo pilot I'm not a huge fan of sitting in FW queue for 15 minutes just to get trolled by teammates :/ If Skirm and Dom were combined as the OP suggested I would simply leave Dom games as I joined them. That is a risk, that leaving thing. One more reason for ppl to make an early leave. So punish them. Yea, how dare we want to enjoy the game. Force people to play what YOU want them to play, then PUNISH them for disagreeing with you! It sounds like a certain system of government actually....I think it worked wonderfully.... Actually the idea was to punish you for not playing. And I do like punishing people who can't bite the bullet when things don't go their way, so I'm cool with it. Usually banned for being too awesome.
DUST Fiend 16731	Posted - 2015.04.28 17:19:00 - [34] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Actually the idea was to punish you for not playing. And I do like punishing people who can't bite the bullet when things don't go their way, so I'm cool with it. So what you're saying is that every single game mode should all be lumped into FW and you should have 0 say in what you play and if you decide you dislike it the game should punish you to encourage you to...keep playing? I'm reading that right? *"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."* STUFF
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization 1708	Posted - 2015.04.28 17:33:00 - [35] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This is partly related to my thoughts about moving Skirmish completely over to FW and granting ISK payouts Interesting. That surely should do wonders for FW. Lots of people refuse to play it (often) due to the lack of ISK payouts. 'LR4-Trading' Protester
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4529	Posted - 2015.04.28 17:40:00 - [36] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: We now have 18 different pools of players. Let's multiply: 3x regions (US, EU, Asia) Wrong, Asia server is empty, asian players are in EU or NA. Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today.
deo volente2 SVER True Blood RUST415 0	Posted - 2015.04.28 17:43:00 - [37] - Quote I AGREE WHOLE HEARTEDLY WITH THE PUZZLEMENT AT YET FURTHER FRAGMENTING THE POOL OF PLAYERS BY ADDING YET ANOTHER MODE, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT SERVES NO PURPOSE I MEAN IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ANOTHER MODE WHY NOT ONE FOR NEWER PLAYERS?, FOR EXAMPLE, A SKIRM/DOM/ OR AMBUSH THAT YOU CAN ONLY USE STARTER FITS AND BPO'S CAUSE IT SURLEY CANNOT BE FUN FOR NEW PLAYERS GETTING PROTO STOMPED OFF THE MAP, AND THEN WE CAN SEE HOW GOOD SOME PLAYERS ARE WHEN THEY CAN'T USE PROTO GEAR? too busy playing
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 6285	Posted - 2015.04.28 17:54:00 - [38] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This is partly related to my thoughts about moving Skirmish completely over to FW and granting ISK payouts Is it at all possible to keep Skirmish and try and bring in Skirmish 3.0? I really think both FW and PC would benefit from an assymetrical attack-defense game mode. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Ferroneus The Peaceniks 6	Posted - 2015.04.28 18:02:00 - [39] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This is partly related to my thoughts about moving Skirmish completely over to FW and granting ISK payouts Would it at all be feasible to maybe create an attack/defend variant of skirmish just for FW? For example: Defending team begins match in control of all letters and has usual MCC health bar thing. Once attacking team hacks a letter, it's theirs and can't be re-hacked. Each letter the attacking team controls drains the defending team's health bar - the more they control the quicker it depletes (like Skirmish/Dom now) The goal is for the attacking team to deplete the defending team's health/control all points within a pre-determined time limit. Teams could still get cloned out. Or that might be a terrible idea, I'm not sure.
Ferroneus The Peaceniks 6	Posted - 2015.04.28 18:03:00 - [40] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This is partly related to my thoughts about moving Skirmish completely over to FW and granting ISK payouts Is it at all possible to keep Skirmish and try and bring in Skirmish 3.0? I really think both FW and PC would benefit from an assymetrical attack-defense game mode. Beat me to it. What this guy said.

DEATH THE KlD Seven Kin of Purgatory 229	Posted - 2015.04.28 18:03:00 - [41] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This is partly related to my thoughts about moving Skirmish completely over to FW and granting ISK payouts Yes please
Regnier Feros Pielords 328	Posted - 2015.04.28 18:08:00 - [42] - Quote Why not use acquisition for fw? "You're like a she-male.. hates gym, doesn't know how to be alpha.. you'll stay in the friendzone for life" -Senpai
STYLIE77 KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 621	Posted - 2015.04.28 18:26:00 - [43] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This is partly related to my thoughts about moving Skirmish completely over to FW and granting ISK payouts Skirmish is currently the only game people can rely on a decent experience with. There's no way this should be gated off to FacWar. If there's too many queues, kill Domination because it's now redundant if Acquisition plays well. the bias is strong in this one , "no kill the one that I hate instead of killing the one I like". Domination is by far the most popular game mode. And here is why: -Less Scouts -Simple to find a fight -1 objective leads to teamwork due to players rushing to it -Sadly snipers have more targets all in one place -Larger groups at one objective means larger fire fights -Obvious tactics of offense and defense can be employed effectively due to larger number of players focusing on one objective Thus why I play Domination almost exclusively... http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
Slave of MORTE 428	Posted - 2015.04.28 18:27:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This is partly related to my thoughts about moving Skirmish completely over to FW and granting ISK payouts I missed this post as I was on vacation ..i turned 24 this month ..i was very sad to have kain tell me such a wonderful idea was shot down while I was away ...i just want you to know ratatti ..i think it's a great idea .. I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
Slave of MORTE 428	Posted - 2015.04.28 18:28:00 - [45] - Quote Slave of MORTE wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This is partly related to my thoughts about moving Skirmish completely over to FW and granting ISK payouts I missed this post as I was on vacation ..i turned 24 this month ..i was very sad to have kain tell me such a wonderful idea was shot down while I was away ...i just want you to know ratatti ..i think it's a great idea .. Actually several people can tell you I went ballistic on coms in game as only mortedeamor can do when I heard the news ..i hope you do this despite nay sayers I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 23577	Posted - 2015.04.28 18:33:00 - [46] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Domination is by far the most popular game mode. I'm not surprised. Do you have anything like a heatmap for activity on maps? Because I would bet that Domination is most popular because you actually tend to get proper engagements there. I suspect Acquisition's popularity will endure because it concentrates players around a point. The thing about Skirmish is that you have gigantic maps for 32 people. Often there are objectives left entirely undefended and a great deal of time is spent just travelling. I would also suggest that the smaller ambush map variants (the ones where the redline is right around a major socket) are more successful than the massive ones for the same reason - people spend more time actually fighting than travelling. Supreme Forum Warrior Gallente Guide
thor424 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 45	Posted - 2015.04.28 18:34:00 - [47] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This is partly related to my thoughts about moving Skirmish completely over to FW and granting ISK payouts Skirmish is currently the only game people can rely on a decent experience with. There's no way this should be gated off to FacWar. If there's too many queues, kill Domination because it's now redundant if Acquisition plays well. the bias is strong in this one , "no kill the one that I hate instead of killing the one I like". Domination is by far the most popular game mode. It hurts me, but I agree with Soraya. Domination is redundant, the new gamemode is basically Domination 2.0. If you guys figure out a way for people to see that people are queuing up for factions so others can queue as well I think it will be awesome. Especially if we get 8 man squads for it. Thor's Emporium
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 543	Posted - 2015.04.28 18:44:00 - [48] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This is partly related to my thoughts about moving Skirmish completely over to FW and granting ISK payouts I'm nervous about it. Farmers and privateers are a part of both Dust and EVE-Online, and of course shouldn't be fully banned from the matches. They get comfortable right away in those Skirmish matches, and that's OKAY as long as it's a Skirmish in Public Contracts. But in FW, these kinds of players can do the most damage to objective (an objective that is trying to gear itself more and more to "winning" each match, not just harvesting personal SP and ISK). We still have loose blue players in FW matches who are willing to risk the friendly-fire punishment and kill YOU because they want you to get off a Gun-Installation (GÇªthey see you doing damage to the enemy, and they want to earn those points instead of YOU)... shoot a few rounds at your back to distract you from getting to the CRU-hack before they do (they want to reach it first to get 50 WPs instead of 12 WP-assisted hack credit)GÇª and hang around the map with ZERO sense of why the rest of us are hustling to attack and defend the Letters. I just want CCP to be VERY CAREFUL about giving any further direct-benefits or direct-payouts that may further encourage players to join FW matches just for payout and point-collecting---the 2 things that mostly stand in the way of your Team's efforts to WIN every FW match they play. In FW I'd prefer that we get our ISK benefits INDIRECTLY, through loot sale and scrap for instance. Please be careful of the psychology of us players. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
nelo kazuma THE LAST H0PE. RUST415 133	Posted - 2015.04.28 18:51:00 - [49] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: This is partly related to my thoughts about moving Skirmish completely over to FW and granting ISK payouts U are aware that with only one home spawn people can just camp it endlessly n not grab point to stomp on noobs n produce thousands of wp. Plz add second hp asap
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1483	Posted - 2015.04.28 19:21:00 - [50] - Quote I used to play domination fairly exclusively until recently (matchmaking is broken in dom for whatever reasons). I've been playing skirmish since but even though i'm not a regular pub skirmish player I don't think this mode should be removed. It's vastly different than if you put it in FW. I strongly agree with those saying not to remove it and just have it in FW. Overlord of Broman

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 2000	Posted - 2015.04.28 19:47:00 - [51] - Quote deo volente2 wrote: I AGREE WHOLE HEARTEDLY WITH THE PUZZLEMENT AT YET FURTHER FRAGMENTING THE POOL OF PLAYERS BY ADDING YET ANOTHER MODE, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT SERVES NO PURPOSE I MEAN IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ANOTHER MODE WHY NOT ONE FOR NEWER PLAYERS?, FOR EXAMPLE, A SKIRM/DOM/ OR AMBUSH THAT YOU CAN ONLY USE STARTER FITS AND BPO'S CAUSE IT SURLEY CANNOT BE FUN FOR NEW PLAYERS GETTING PROTO STOMPED OFF THE MAP, AND THEN WE CAN SEE HOW GOOD SOME PLAYERS ARE WHEN THEY CAN'T USE PROTO GEAR? You make too much sense , hence why your idea will not be implemented . This was spot on and what should have actually happen . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
Forced Death Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 724	Posted - 2015.04.28 20:27:00 - [52] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Why everybody is that "I play ONLY amb/skirm/dom" and "If MY game mode gets combined with another queue I gonna play NOTHING" or "If MY game mode gets transferred I QUIT playing" Why can't we accept that sometimes you get your favourite specific mode, sometimes you don't? We shouldn't expect to cherry pick every single match. Hating Ambush is pretty common. Hating Dom is pretty common. The folks who hate both play Skirm. If you take away Skirm (without improving Ambush or Dom), there's a chance those folks will quit. I don't think that lecturing them will improve our odds of retaining them. Doing so will kill all scouts as well What are we supposed to do now? Run around in Acq. and cap first? Then it's like Dom until the point moves and I hack once more STD Active Scanner with Scan Profile of 46db too OP
gorto sou WarRavens 16	Posted - 2015.04.28 21:04:00 - [53] - Quote Please don't remove Skirmish from the public contracts. I only play skirmish as its the mode that remind's me most of Domination on MAG. FW q's are already way too long. If anything combine the domination and AcQ q's. Before doing anything work on the matchmaking first as there are way to many games being played with half teams/ uneven teams. I played a 16vs1 game yesterday. Because the entire enemy team left but 1. Also take away the leave battle button.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 2002	Posted - 2015.04.28 21:51:00 - [54] - Quote Regnier Feros wrote: Why not use acquisition for fw? Another good idea . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
Protected Void Nos Nothi 413	Posted - 2015.04.28 22:04:00 - [55] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This is partly related to my thoughts about moving Skirmish completely over to FW and granting ISK payouts Skirmish is currently the only game people can rely on a decent experience with. There's no way this should be gated off to FacWar. If there's too many queues, kill Domination because it's now redundant if Acquisition plays well. the bias is strong in this one , "no kill the one that I hate instead of killing the one I like". Domination is by far the most popular game mode. Ah. Two things: Popularity is not a reliable indicator of quality. Spice girls were never a good band, even if they enjoyed high sales numbers of some of their singles. If I have about one hour of spare time to play, I can either queue for Skirmish and enjoy queue times of 7-8 minutes and get two matches or add Domination and get three matches in. If I do the latter, I'll get put in Domination matches 9 out of 10 times. Which means that even if I had preferred Skirmish, it looks like I'm a fan of Domination.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5796	Posted - 2015.04.28 22:06:00 - [56] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Actually the idea was to punish you for not playing. And I do like punishing people who can't bite the bullet when things don't go their way, so I'm cool with it. So what you're saying is that every single game mode should all be lumped into FW and you should have 0 say in what you play and if you decide you dislike it the game should punish you to encourage you to...keep playing? I'm reading that right? No, you're not reading that right. In fact you're pretty much just making stuff up as you go along. Not a terribly uncommon way to argue, but also not one that invites a lot of intelligent responses either. Though I have to admit that the concept of mixing every single gametype into a grab bag is interesting, I'm more a fan of FW and PC being the game modes that have skirmish. Usually banned for being too awesome.
Forlorn Destrier Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 3319	Posted - 2015.04.28 22:06:00 - [57] - Quote deleted I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning* I am *Havok, Incorruptible*
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 225	Posted - 2015.04.28 22:48:00 - [58] - Quote I'd be all for putting Skirmish as a FW/PC only game mode - it would hopefully increase the popularity of FW. However, if this happened, I'd also like to see a limit on players' ping to avoid having matches with bad latency. If skirmish and Dom were combined, I would leave skirmish matches and re-queue til I got a domination. Skirmish is my least favourite game mode though, so I'm a bit biased. Protected Void wrote: Popularity is not a reliable indicator of quality. Spice girls were never a good band, even if they enjoyed high sales numbers of some of their singles. How dare you insult the Spice Girls! Their music is awesome
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 9295	Posted - 2015.04.28 22:56:00 - [59] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: In either case, I would like to see people punished for leaving. They are less than worthless and waste everybody's time. At present headcounts, every player is worth something. A challenge: Convert Ambush to a solo queue. Compare percentage of battles left between the solo queue and squad queues. See if headcounts and daily logins grow once casuals and soloists have a place to play. People want to have fun, and that isn't unreasonable. Being partyboy fodder isn't fun. Burning through Isk to keep up isn't fun. If casuals had a place to play, I think we just might turn around the headcount decline. I know I'd play more often. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18573	Posted - 2015.04.28 22:57:00 - [60] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: This is partly related to my thoughts about moving Skirmish completely over to FW and granting ISK payouts Skirmish is currently the only game people can rely on a decent experience with. There's no way this should be gated off to FacWar. If there's too many queues, kill Domination because it's now redundant if Acquisition plays well. the bias is strong in this one , "no kill the one that I hate instead of killing the one I like". Domination is by far the most popular game mode. Really? Wow..... mob and charge? I guess that's about what I would expect. "MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!" - Mobius Wyvern



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