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Apocalyptic Destroyer L.O.T.I.S. 441	Posted - 2015.04.27 02:49:00 - [1] - Quote Please consider this. I propose to give the LAV back it's traction and give it more slots and PG/CPU to work with. My Saga-II Is really useless. I wasted SP getting this thing. It was great before the mass LAV Nerf. I say make the LAV like the Dropsuits in which it would not have the huge mediocre Slot Layout like the Tanks but would instead gain more Slots and PG/CPU as you get your LAV skill to 5. Note ! I'm not saying buff their resistances. They can keep their god awful low HP Slot Progression I see Fit: Shield LAV * Basic: 1 High - 1 Low * Advanced: 2 High - 1 Low * Proto: 3 High 2 Low Armor LAV Basic: 1 High 1 Low Advanced: 1 High 2 Low *Proto: 2 High 3 Low As You can see the LAV's are balanced on both sides. Given the fact that the HMG still has that bonus damage towards them and the Abusive Overused Swarms I see no reason why we shouldn't have this. True Amarr In Disguise Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body. In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3137	Posted - 2015.04.27 05:17:00 - [2] - Quote No. We went away from the increasing slot layouts for a reason with HAV's (even though I still don't agree that we should have added tiers in the first place). No reason we should go back. Also, keep in mind, we don't just have Armor and shield LAV's, we have Gallente and Caldari LAV's, with Amarr and WInmatar ones coming SOONtm. Top lel
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8227	Posted - 2015.04.27 05:21:00 - [3] - Quote I agree with adding slots and fitting to LAVs. I think that we should do like with the HAVs and make the slots universal to tiers. I would honestly like to see that trend applied to dropsuits. AV
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10408	Posted - 2015.04.27 05:37:00 - [4] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: I agree with adding slots and fitting to LAVs. I think that we should do like with the HAVs and make the slots universal to tiers. I would honestly like to see that trend applied to dropsuits. I'd love it if LAVs had more slots and even better if it was in standard layout similar to HAVs. *As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Apocalyptic Destroyer L.O.T.I.S. 444	Posted - 2015.04.27 07:07:00 - [5] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: No. We went away from the increasing slot layouts for a reason with HAV's (even though I still don't agree that we should have added tiers in the first place). No reason we should go back. Also, keep in mind, we don't just have Armor and shield LAV's, we have Gallente and Caldari LAV's, with Amarr and WInmatar ones coming SOONtm. We can't rely on SOONtm so for now all we have is Armor a d Shield True Amarr In Disguise Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body. In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
Dead Cavino Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 33	Posted - 2015.04.27 07:41:00 - [6] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: No. We went away from the increasing slot layouts for a reason with HAV's (even though I still don't agree that we should have added tiers in the first place). No reason we should go back. Also, keep in mind, we don't just have Armor and shield LAV's, we have Gallente and Caldari LAV's, with Amarr and WInmatar ones coming SOONtm. I thought there were only gonna give us Minmatar/Amar HAVs. Am i missing something here, cause I've seen nothing regarding Minmatara/Amar LAVs or Dropships. But on topic of LAVS, I found a pretty good methana fit that can withstand a little damage. ie: 1 A/V nade. Only thing is this costs 100k+ and still gets wrecked by swarms which is to be expected. Perhaps reducing costs? Improving acceleration for better mobility?
Apocalyptic Destroyer L.O.T.I.S. 446	Posted - 2015.04.27 23:50:00 - [7] - Quote Dead Cavino wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: No. We went away from the increasing slot layouts for a reason with HAV's (even though I still don't agree that we should have added tiers in the first place). No reason we should go back. Also, keep in mind, we don't just have Armor and shield LAV's, we have Gallente and Caldari LAV's, with Amarr and WInmatar ones coming SOONtm. I thought there were only gonna give us Minmatar/Amar HAVs. Am i missing something here, cause I've seen nothing regarding Minmatara/Amar LAVs or Dropships. But on topic of LAVS, I found a pretty good methana fit that can withstand a little damage. ie: 1 A/V nade. Only thing is this costs 100k+ and still gets wrecked by swarms which is to be expected. Perhaps reducing costs? Improving acceleration for better mobility? Reduce costs or increase slots.. True Amarr In Disguise Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body. In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3142	Posted - 2015.04.28 02:54:00 - [8] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: No. We went away from the increasing slot layouts for a reason with HAV's (even though I still don't agree that we should have added tiers in the first place). No reason we should go back. Also, keep in mind, we don't just have Armor and shield LAV's, we have Gallente and Caldari LAV's, with Amarr and WInmatar ones coming SOONtm. We can't rely on SOONtm so for now all we have is Armor a d Shield 1: Rattati hasn't cheated us out of **** yet, so I doubt that. 2: Pretty sure there is a Gallente tag tied to my Methana. Nope. 3: Making a layout design suitable for a Gallente hull is the best thing to do if it's made to act like a Gallente hull. Saying "No, because Amarr ones don't exist yet" Doesn't cahnge that. Top lel
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1949	Posted - 2015.04.28 03:26:00 - [9] - Quote In essence, there would be two useless LAV hulls one 'must' hull (the proto) Looking at both sides of the coin. Even Aurum one.
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3142	Posted - 2015.04.28 03:58:00 - [10] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: In essence, there would be two useless LAV hulls one 'must' hull (the proto) Kinda like Dropsuits. Top lel
Dead Cavino Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 42	Posted - 2015.04.28 04:39:00 - [11] - Quote What about the LAV operation skill itself? I remember my Limbus had a skill that gave something like 2% resistance to damage/level. This would be a nice little buff that would reward training LAV skills.
Apocalyptic Destroyer L.O.T.I.S. 446	Posted - 2015.04.28 04:48:00 - [12] - Quote Dead Cavino wrote: What about the LAV operation skill itself? I remember my Limbus had a skill that gave something like 2% resistance to damage/level. This would be a nice little buff that would reward training LAV skills. But I think it would be sort of redundant. Rat Pack just gave the LAV more DB to be killed easier and even gave an HMG bonuses to kill the thing lol True Amarr In Disguise Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body. In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
Dead Cavino Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 43	Posted - 2015.04.28 05:13:00 - [13] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: Dead Cavino wrote: What about the LAV operation skill itself? I remember my Limbus had a skill that gave something like 2% resistance to damage/level. This would be a nice little buff that would reward training LAV skills. But I think it would be sort of redundant. Rat Pack just gave the LAV more DB to be killed easier and even gave an HMG bonuses to kill the thing lol Yes, this was an attempt to reduce the Sentinal/LAV combo that was a serious problem. And probably to reduce the kamikaze attacks on HAVs. The only thing is, they were nerfed so incredibly hard to the point they aren't exactly viable as Light Attack Vehicles. I mean i used to have tons of fun riding around mowing fools down with a blaster methana. Or throwing down explosive support with a missile saga. These play styles are still viable, barely. But the fact that it cost 100k+ for a LAV capable of this, only to be blown up by a MLT swarm launcher/Plasma cannon/basic av nade which is available to EVERYONE, is well, beyond frustrating.
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3143	Posted - 2015.04.28 11:04:00 - [14] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote: Dead Cavino wrote: What about the LAV operation skill itself? I remember my Limbus had a skill that gave something like 2% resistance to damage/level. This would be a nice little buff that would reward training LAV skills. But I think it would be sort of redundant. Rat Pack just gave the LAV more DB to be killed easier and even gave an HMG bonuses to kill the thing lol And every pilot who uses LAV's said that it was a bad idea, and still thinks it's a bad idea, because he didn't place slots down. It was intended to make it so LAV's couldn't simply drive around unfitted and be good enough. Now, that's not even the case fitted. Top lel
Balistyc Farshot OUTCAST MERCS General Tso's Alliance 150	Posted - 2015.04.28 13:59:00 - [15] - Quote I would like 3 tiers of LAVs. One is scouting and has terrible shields, no turret, but can take falls and auto flip to tires when hand brake is pulled. Give modules to improve things like burst acceleration. Then make another LAV that is middle of the road, close to the current but able to take a few nades. This is the assault LAV. Finally make the heavy LAV, which has a small turret that does decent damage to vehicles and is meant to be light anti vehicle and transport. Give them equipment slots appropriately, based on these selections. Then "REDUCE TANK SPEED!" That will make them tanks again and LAVs useful. Done. Then each vehicle has it's place in combat. From Logi, to Heavy, to Scout, now I am moving to ADS. Please stop balancing!

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