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Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2015.04.26 17:37:00 -
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The other day, a corp mate in my squad was laughing at me, due to how much my blue cloak shimmer stuck out as I tried to sneak around.
From the perspective of using cloaks, I do seem to be spotted whilst cloaked frustratingly quickly. Obviously I expect to be seen If I run in front of someone, but getting spotted often when at a distance and in peripheral vision is pretty annoying.
I fully agree that cloaks should act like camo rather than full invisibility. Despite what some people claim, using a cloak successfully takes skill. Full invisibility would destroy that element of stealth gameplay.
I do feel though, that a reduction, or darkening, of the shimmer is needed.
Cloaks, in their old form were op. This is because they could be used very effectively for ganking people. This involved mainly operating in built up areas where you could track enemies with passive scans whilst cloaked, and pounce on people with a shotgun. The cloak increases the time it takes for people to react to you as it takes time to be spotted. The scans and instant decloak allowed you to make sure there was rarely enough time for enemies to react before it was too late. You could then quickly dive back into cover and repeat.
The introduction of cloak blind and delay has made this technique pretty much impossible. With this use of cloaks removed it highlights the other, more beneficial to the game, use for cloaks. This being infiltration and movement without being spotted / killed. It now appears that the level of camouflage provided by a cloak is sufficient to perform this role, but perhaps not sufficient to perform the role well. As a result many scouts don't bother with cloaks at all and the capabilities of a scout beyond direct combat are diminished.
Following the long awaited, major buffs to assaults, cloaks are one of the few things that distinguishes scouts and gives them a purpose.
TLDR: Seems to me the shimmer should be darkened a bit. |
Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.04.26 17:57:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:You bring up a good argument. After all the nerfs it hit, it should get a buff ( if you want to even call it that) by decreasing the visibility some.
Some say that standard settings won't show them easily, and you only see if you upped the settings. I have never touched mine, at all, and I still see them. I don't know if that's because i'm actually using a monitor for gaming though..and not a t.v.
I seem to see cloaks pretty easily with a TV, without changing any settings. Though obviously it's difficult to guess exactly how often I spot cloaked scouts as if I didn't see them, I didn't see them. |
Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2015.04.28 01:14:00 -
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To Oswald:
So are you saying the cloak should be buffed? I think that's what you are saying.
Cloaks aren't useful for the CQC sneaky stuff shown in those videos, but they are useful for battlefield mobility, non-combat activities and getting yourself into position to do the sneaky CQC stuff. Just not currently good enough at it (IMO).
The main reasons the gameplay in your videos is not really viable now, are the inner scan ring and loss of passive scan direction arrows.
It is possible to dampen below inner scans in some situations, so there is that. Mostly you need a proto suit though.
Removal of passive scan direction arrows was a shame, but I guess there were good reasons for it. In a way it adds a bit of skill guessing people orientation based on watching their movement, along with general awareness. |
Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2015.04.28 01:25:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:
It is possible to dampen below inner scans in some situations, so there is that.
So long as your opponent promises not to run a precision enhancer. 
Shhhhhh!  |
Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2015.04.28 01:40:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:
It is possible to dampen below inner scans in some situations, so there is that.
So long as your opponent promises not to run a precision enhancer. Shhhhhh! I'm afraid the secret's out, friend. Precision Enhancers have been in the Top 10 for months!
Holy crap, you are right. I thought most people had given up on them. I do use them myself so I guess it makes sense. 4% usage isn't much either.
I guess I'll just hope a lot of this usage is on scouts, who I'm unlikely to sneak up on anyway. |
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