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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2015.04.23 00:42:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Inb4 use damps
Inb4 skill Galscout
Inb4 valid tactic
/endthread
Once AGAIN My evil twin has arrived to sow Chaos and despair before me...
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Powerh8er
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
738
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Posted - 2015.04.23 00:57:00 -
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The scanners doesnt really provide any noticable WP reward, but giving the user the satifisfaction that he provides his team with very usefull intelligence, unless ofcourse your in a fully fledged proto pub star squad, then its like +15 +15 +15.... You might even end up with a decent wp score just by scanning, but the true reward some say is the tears of the enemy.
Have you got anymore exploding carrots?
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
1085
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Posted - 2015.04.23 01:35:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Everyone who has posted here is poorer than me.
Fact
Carry on citizens
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.04.23 01:37:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Everyone who has posted here is poorer than me.
Fact
Carry on citizens Reported for breaking forum rules 6 and 26
Ooohhhh, scary.
"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."
STUFF
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
660
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Posted - 2015.04.23 01:39:00 -
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Powerh8er wrote:The scanners doesnt really provide any noticable WP reward, but giving the user the satifisfaction that he provides his team with very usefull intelligence, unless ofcourse your in a fully fledged proto pub star squad, then its like +15 +15 +15.... You might even end up with a decent wp score just by scanning, but the true reward some say is the tears of the enemy.
Indeed. They only provide satisfaction, and are a gamble in hopes they are useful
STD Active Scanner with Scan Profile of 46db too OP
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
1049
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Posted - 2015.04.23 01:47:00 -
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As a fat man who gets scanned a lot, I am against your idea and I find scans to be fine as is.
It brings my meals to me!
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1438
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Posted - 2015.04.23 03:09:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:poopy pantzs wrote:Darkstalker Astrea wrote:Active scanners are NO RISK - HIGH REWARD
I think it is fair to say that the active scanner is and always has been very powerful
Talk of balance and matchmaking has avoided active/passive scans
When you get stomped because everybody on the other team knows where you are, I think that's a problem.
One or two players can affect the entire battle by spamming scans and you have no way of finding them I think this is also wrong.
Dampeners are not very effective and few suits can get under the best (proto stomp) scans.
What's interesting is active scanners are not very dynamic. It is either proto or don't bother for the most part
My suggestion is to allow only one scanner to be equipped ( like the cloak)
Adjust the scanners so they can only grab certain frequencies. NOT 35db all the way down to 20 db for proto
Example:
Scanner a- picks up between 28 - 24 db
scanner b - picks up between 22 - 19 db
Scanner c- picks up between 20 - 17db
You could add other variants that do different things
Such as
vehicle scanner
Cloak scrambler (insta reveal cloak in short ranges)
Scan disruptor - cancels scan, effectively reducing scanned time
Scan locator - when activated reveals location you were scanned from
Go play COD scrubby Really? Cos permascan wallhacks arent scrubby. At least you have to EARN that **** as a killstreak reward in COD.
Its only 3 kills?
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1438
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Posted - 2015.04.23 03:10:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:As a fat man who gets scanned a lot, I am against your idea and I find scans to be fine as is.
It brings my meals to me!
Picturing any heavy sat down with A napkin tied across his neck..... hurry up and scan me dang I'm starving!!!!
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
753
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Posted - 2015.04.23 03:14:00 -
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L M F A O
Scanners are OP!!!!! AHahahah xD
You see good sir, the draw back is that the person scanning, only makes +15 intel assist and only when a squad mate gets the kill. Making them hardly profitable and hence not many people use them.
I do though, just because little assholes with shotguns and RE's run around thinking they are awesome. Your probably one of those and just bitchy because a scanner poops on your parade.
If your so concerned with it, get a gal scout and stack damps. Or do like the real scouts and try to hunt the guy doing it down.
JUST because your whining about it, I'm gonna run proto scans on my Gal logi all week, just for you <3
The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y,
(~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
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ReGnYuM
Carne Con Papas
3679
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Posted - 2015.04.23 03:16:00 -
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poopy pantzs wrote:Darkstalker Astrea wrote:Active scanners are NO RISK - HIGH REWARD
I think it is fair to say that the active scanner is and always has been very powerful
Talk of balance and matchmaking has avoided active/passive scans
When you get stomped because everybody on the other team knows where you are, I think that's a problem.
One or two players can affect the entire battle by spamming scans and you have no way of finding them I think this is also wrong.
Dampeners are not very effective and few suits can get under the best (proto stomp) scans.
What's interesting is active scanners are not very dynamic. It is either proto or don't bother for the most part
My suggestion is to allow only one scanner to be equipped ( like the cloak)
Adjust the scanners so they can only grab certain frequencies. NOT 35db all the way down to 20 db for proto
Example:
Scanner a- picks up between 28 - 24 db
scanner b - picks up between 22 - 19 db
Scanner c- picks up between 20 - 17db
You could add other variants that do different things
Such as
vehicle scanner
Cloak scrambler (insta reveal cloak in short ranges)
Scan disruptor - cancels scan, effectively reducing scanned time
Scan locator - when activated reveals location you were scanned from
Go play COD scrubby
You understand that the LSAT/ UAV kill streak is the equivalent to active scanning right Maybe you should play COD? |
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1439
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Posted - 2015.04.23 03:20:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:L M F A O
Scanners are OP!!!!! AHahahah xD
You see good sir, the draw back is that the person scanning, only makes +15 intel assist and only when a squad mate gets the kill. Making them hardly profitable and hence not many people use them.
I do though, just because little assholes with shotguns and RE's run around thinking they are awesome. Your probably one of those and just bitchy because a scanner poops on your parade.
If your so concerned with it, get a gal scout and stack damps. Or do like the real scouts and try to hunt the guy doing it down.
JUST because your whining about it, I'm gonna run proto scans on my Gal logi all week, just for you <3
not here to mince biscuits but...not many ppl use them?
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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nelo kazuma
THE LAST H0PE.
RUST415
97
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Posted - 2015.04.23 03:28:00 -
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Wow a scout complaining about scanners what a surprise . If u lvl up dampening to proto (hust the skill) all but heavy suits can avoid basic scanners. At adv scanners all scouts ewar dampening can still avoid. At proto all but one scanner rate at 28 db which guess what a gall scouts (without dampener) and cal scout with one damp can avoid. Only exception to this is gal logi which guess what if u use damps u can still avoid but almost all scouts wanna tank hp n speed n have their ewar carry them which shouldnt ne the case you shouldnt be untrackable to beging with cloak was meant to help not a crutch |
ReGnYuM
Carne Con Papas
3679
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Posted - 2015.04.23 03:33:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Inb4 use damps
Inb4 skill Galscout
Inb4 valid tactic
/endthread
1. I do run damps. However, using three lows to counter one piece of equipment is not fair play or remotely acceptable.
2. Yep lets just all invest the 3+ million SP to specifically counter one piece of equipment. Because the majority playerbase, easily, has the amount just sitting around.
3. Valid yes. However as the OP stated, the amount of work put in results in extraordinary gains.
Overall the underlining problem is this. You running a scanner is an extraordinary plus for your team. Unfortunately, me running damps has zero benefit to my team, yet I am sacrificing 2-3 lows, and you an equipment slot.
It does not balance out, and therefore equates to crappy gameplay
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
1051
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Posted - 2015.04.23 03:33:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:As a fat man who gets scanned a lot, I am against your idea and I find scans to be fine as is.
It brings my meals to me! Picturing any heavy sat down with A napkin tied across his neck..... hurry up and scan me dang I'm starving!!!!
Don't forget his bow tie and his top hat! I may be a fat arse but damn it all if I'm not a classy fat arse!
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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bathtubist
TRUE SAVAGES
Learning Alliance
93
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Posted - 2015.04.23 03:40:00 -
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I would stll suggest to show the scanner location so he can be killed after or during the scan so it can be cut short
NERF THE RE'S Gallente logi ftw
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1465
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Posted - 2015.04.23 06:25:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Inb4 use damps
Inb4 skill Galscout
Inb4 valid tactic
/endthread 1. I do run damps. However, using three lows to counter one piece of equipment is not fair play or remotely acceptable. 2. Yep lets just all invest the 3+ million SP to specifically counter one piece of equipment. Because the majority playerbase, easily, has the amount just sitting around. 3. Valid yes. However as the OP stated, the amount of work put in results in extraordinary gains. Overall the underlining problem is this. You running a scanner is an extraordinary plus for your team. Unfortunately, me running damps has zero benefit to my team, yet I am sacrificing 2-3 lows, and you an equipment slot. It does not balance out, and therefore equates to crappy gameplay
1. damps always work, scanners only work for a few seconds and then have cooldown.
2. If you plan on being a scout or assault, you should probably skill it anyways. I consider dampening a "core" skill.
3. extraordinary gains for the squad. Team even? (Lol bluedots!) Very little gain for the scanner.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
542
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Posted - 2015.04.23 08:35:00 -
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What OP proposes is stupid, but he's right about one thing: active scanners suck.
I would love to see them erased from the game as they bring nothing good to the game. It's basically a wallhack eq that forces you to play with one particular type of suit if you want to have a chance of avoiding it. It sucks. It's wrong to have this in a FPS.
Fix the game before trying to add anything else.
(Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
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DDx77
The Exemplars
216
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Posted - 2015.04.26 05:37:00 -
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[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f4Bpm_V49Jo]this[/url]
May the Dark shine your way
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hold that
Capital Acquisitions LLC
793
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Posted - 2015.04.26 05:47:00 -
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there is nothing scrubier then a scout running around able to not be scanned |
Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
638
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Posted - 2015.04.26 06:41:00 -
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Darkstalker Astrea wrote:Active scanners are NO RISK - HIGH REWARD
I think it is fair to say that the active scanner is and always has been very powerful
Talk of balance and matchmaking has avoided active/passive scans
When you get stomped because everybody on the other team knows where you are, I think that's a problem.
One or two players can affect the entire battle by spamming scans and you have no way of finding them I think this is also wrong.
Dampeners are not very effective and few suits can get under the best (proto stomp) scans.
What's interesting is active scanners are not very dynamic. It is either proto or don't bother for the most part
My suggestion is to allow only one scanner to be equipped ( like the cloak)
Adjust the scanners so they can only grab certain frequencies. NOT 35db all the way down to 20 db for proto
Example:
Scanner a- picks up between 28 - 24 db
scanner b - picks up between 22 - 19 db
Scanner c- picks up between 20 - 17db
You could add other variants that do different things
Such as
vehicle scanner
Cloak scrambler (insta reveal cloak in short ranges)
Scan disruptor - cancels scan, effectively reducing scanned time
Scan locator - when activated reveals location you were scanned from
Scans are pretty lame when they are permanently applied to your butt.
My suggestions would be:
reduce range on active scans and make it so supply depot doesnt recharge scanners to reduce the supply depot ballet (srsly Ive been like 200+ meters from the action, still getting hit by random scans)
Limit of one scanner per fitting
Reduce all scan precisions of all active scanners and then make the scanner precision stack with scan modules (~3 complex precision modules should get you back to current levels), this means that you will need to apply some module slots to make scanners work, just like everyone else has to apply module slots to try and make them not work.
A scan disruptor would be nice too, now that you mention it. |
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
638
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Posted - 2015.04.26 06:48:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Inb4 use damps
Inb4 skill Galscout
Inb4 valid tactic
/endthread 1. I do run damps. However, using three lows to counter one piece of equipment is not fair play or remotely acceptable. 2. Yep lets just all invest the 3+ million SP to specifically counter one piece of equipment. Because the majority playerbase, easily, has the amount just sitting around. 3. Valid yes. However as the OP stated, the amount of work put in results in extraordinary gains. Overall the underlining problem is this. You running a scanner is an extraordinary plus for your team. Unfortunately, me running damps has zero benefit to my team, yet I am sacrificing 2-3 lows, and you an equipment slot. It does not balance out, and therefore equates to crappy gameplay
Not only that, but one guy with a single equipment slot is forcing an entire team to either run squishy ass scout suits with all their lows filled with damps, or accept being perma scanned. Its very asymmetrical, essentially the only way to play against it is to also spam scanners and force the same choice on the enemy team. |
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