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Ryanjr TUG
KnightKiller's inc.
19
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Posted - 2015.04.19 13:53:00 -
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Hello I am KOK,
>>>loading data for #OP_AV >>Loading complete
We are "hosting" a user made "event". The "Event" is for who tired of tankers, ADS, and LAVs. You don't need to chat with us on this a "Event", but if you must how a chat name here it's "Knight Killers PUB". The "Event" is to cost tankers a lot of ISK, so they don't play the game no more, like all other Dust 514 players do. We want av to get a buff, but not to much. We feel as though AV is not has good, and we can't take on Proto tanks with AV. >>
C.C.P is for the armarr, and I am going to get eve online..........
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion.
341
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Posted - 2015.04.19 13:54:00 -
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The ADS tourney! Join today!
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The KTM DuKe
Dead Man's Game
124
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Posted - 2015.04.19 13:57:00 -
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Ryanjr TUG wrote:Hello I am KOK,
>>>loading data for #OP_AV >>Loading complete
We are "hosting" a user made "event". The "Event" is for who tired of tankers, ADS, and LAVs. You don't need to chat with us on this a "Event", but if you must how a chat name here it's "Knight Killers PUB". The "Event" is to cost tankers a lot of ISK, so they don't play the game no more, like all other Dust 514 players do. We want av to get a buff, but not to much. We feel as though AV is not has good, and we can't take on Proto tanks with AV. >> Git gud?
=ƒæèDMG Director=ƒæè =ƒÖî=ƒÖîAlt of H0riz0n Unlimit=ƒÖî=ƒÖî. Getting hate mails from alliance all day long=ƒÿÄ=ƒÿÄ
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Denchlad 7
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2075
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Posted - 2015.04.19 14:18:00 -
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If I can solo any tank hardened or not with a PLC and AV nades, youre doing it wrong. AV getting a buff makes as much sense as nerfing the Magsec.
That or 5/10
"Dench stop hitting your head you Caldari pinball" - m6
Currently on Dust hiatus.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1965
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Posted - 2015.04.19 16:31:00 -
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Do you even AV OP ?
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
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QRT30
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
88
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Posted - 2015.04.19 19:34:00 -
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Denchlad 7 wrote:If I can solo any tank hardened or not with a PLC and AV nades, youre doing it wrong. AV getting a buff makes as much sense as nerfing the Magsec.
That or 5/10 I kill today tanker and started swarming to his empty tank (madrugar) . I empty almost all clip 12 swarms to destroy not moving tank. My minimando to maximize damage needs only 1 % warbage more. Tank regenerate so fast. AV don't need buff because it can easy destroy ads, LAV but tanks need regeneration toning.
QRT30 - open beta vet with over 80 mln Sp or close beta newbie at Planetside 2
QRT300 - Amarr heavy/commando
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DaemonVok
Axis of Chaos
16
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Posted - 2015.04.19 20:12:00 -
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Ryanjr TUG wrote:Hello I am KOK,
>>>loading data for #OP_AV >>Loading complete
We are "hosting" a user made "event". The "Event" is for who tired of tankers, ADS, and LAVs. You don't need to chat with us on this a "Event", but if you must how a chat name here it's "Knight Killers PUB". The "Event" is to cost tankers a lot of ISK, so they don't play the game no more, like all other Dust 514 players do. We want av to get a buff, but not to much. We feel as though AV is not has good, and we can't take on Proto tanks with AV. >> AV is anything but underpowered. Ads pilots are underpowered. Tanks can survive a bit but with multiple AV? No chance. I take out proto tanks every day in my ads. It's possible but takes like 3 minutes of consistency. Just keep trying and don't try to do it alone. You'll just get frustrated. Also, lav sucks... if you cannot solo an lav then you should just stop playing... forever. Lol |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18350
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Posted - 2015.04.19 22:22:00 -
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I too am sick of pilots ruining the game for us terrestrial, fleshy, meat sacks and will not stand for it! Justice for infantry! Freedom for the oppressed AV! Blood and Oil for the God's of Slaughter!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGH!
You have my 80Gj Ion Cannon good sir!
GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥
-The Nameless City
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Ryanjr TUG
KnightKiller's inc.
19
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Posted - 2015.04.20 11:09:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:..........
AV needs a buff? Please.... My incubus is already two shot from everything... (300 rep) At base armor one volley of wyr can kill me unless i AB and fly as far away as I can. If i turn wrong at the beginning, i might as well give up because it hits like a wyr breach.
Same for my python... It dishes out 1.2k damage. Three shot for the standard python-2555 fit.
Only one python fit can look at AV and laugh but... You're out for 60 seconds at max skills... And if someone gets the jump on you, just give up. 300 sHP isn't enough to tank the damage.
Buff ads then let's talk...
Buff in prices, and AV need a buff, because of Pro tanks. We need to have a buff in all things of this game (KT 60s). We more AV to get redid of Pro tanks. Don't you have a red line, and afterburners that goes out of our range? The A.D.S has had so mini buffs if you died your a dumb ass. Me and a mate hit one with full proto FG suits still lived, because of how much A.D.S lag in the air. Most of us think A.D.S lag out servers, and games hacking or not. A.D.S do need a buff. A buff in ISK cost.
#OP_AV coming 25th.
C.C.P is for the armarr, and I am going to get eve online..........
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2640
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Posted - 2015.04.20 11:17:00 -
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I've yet to meet a vehicle that 2 wiyrkomi breach forges didn't alpha through with its hardeners down.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Ryanjr TUG
KnightKiller's inc.
19
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Posted - 2015.04.20 11:23:00 -
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DaemonVok wrote:Ryanjr TUG wrote:Hello I am KOK,
>>>loading data for #OP_AV >>Loading complete
We are "hosting" a user made "event". The "Event" is for who tired of tankers, ADS, and LAVs. You don't need to chat with us on this a "Event", but if you must how a chat name here it's "Knight Killers PUB". The "Event" is to cost tankers a lot of ISK, so they don't play the game no more, like all other Dust 514 players do. We want av to get a buff, but not to much. We feel as though AV is not has good, and we can't take on Proto tanks with AV. >> AV is anything but underpowered. Ads pilots are underpowered. Tanks can survive a bit but with multiple AV? No chance. I take out proto tanks every day in my ads. It's possible but takes like 3 minutes of consistency. Just keep trying and don't try to do it alone. You'll just get frustrated. Also, lav sucks... if you cannot solo an lav then you should just stop playing... forever. Lol
Does not every thing in life come with a down side? A.D.S fast, but "Can be shot" down easy. /Heavies can't move fast, but has a lot of armor. \ //Scouts move fast, but has no armor. ///Tanks has a lot of hp, but can be killed by AV. ////Logics can heal, but get made primary target for all players. ////Dust 514 is sh!t, but there no others like it.
#OP_AV coming 25TH
OPAV, #OPHeavy, join our Pub chat to learn about how we are trying to fix Dust 514. join now knight killers PUB.
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Ryanjr TUG
KnightKiller's inc.
19
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Posted - 2015.04.20 11:26:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:I've yet to meet a vehicle that 2 wiyrkomi breach forges didn't alpha through with its hardeners down. I think so I was a MK.0 logic, but yes it did. If av gets a buff nexts would be dorpships though....
OPAV, #OPHeavy, join our Pub chat to learn about how we are trying to fix Dust 514. join now knight killers PUB.
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Slave of MORTE
389
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Posted - 2015.04.20 11:34:00 -
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Ryanjr TUG wrote:Hello I am KOK,
>>>loading data for #OP_AV >>Loading complete
We are "hosting" a user made "event". The "Event" is for who tired of tankers, ADS, and LAVs. You don't need to chat with us on this a "Event", but if you must how a chat name here it's "Knight Killers PUB". The "Event" is to cost tankers a lot of ISK, so they don't play the game no more, like all other Dust 514 players do. We want av to get a buff, but not to much. We feel as though AV is not has good, and we can't take on Proto tanks with AV. >> Scrubs ..event full of ******* scrubs ..av is fine tanks are NOT op stfu ..
I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
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Ryanjr TUG
KnightKiller's inc.
19
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Posted - 2015.04.20 11:45:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:Ryanjr TUG wrote:Hello I am KOK,
>>>loading data for #OP_AV >>Loading complete
We are "hosting" a user made "event". The "Event" is for who tired of tankers, ADS, and LAVs. You don't need to chat with us on this a "Event", but if you must how a chat name here it's "Knight Killers PUB". The "Event" is to cost tankers a lot of ISK, so they don't play the game no more, like all other Dust 514 players do. We want av to get a buff, but not to much. We feel as though AV is not has good, and we can't take on Proto tanks with AV. >> Scrubs ..event full of ******* scrubs ..av is fine tanks are NOT op stfu ..
Coming form a tanker?
OPAV, #OPHeavy, join our Pub chat to learn about how we are trying to fix Dust 514. join now knight killers PUB.
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VAHZZ
Arrary of Clusters
1453
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Posted - 2015.04.20 11:51:00 -
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I don't like you already.
If you expect the worst, you'll never be disappointed.
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PADDEHATPIGEN
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
161
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Posted - 2015.04.20 12:10:00 -
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I'm NOT a tanker in fact I don't have a single point in any vehicles at all.
I am however fully trained in swarms and nades and I DO NOT have any problems taking out a low lvl tank alone. The protos however are really tuff and most of the time I need at least 2 more AV players to help me kill them, but that's how it should be.
Even if I'm the only one AVing i can still make them run for the red line and hide and sometimes even call the tank back out. And i get points for doing damage to it even if I don't kill it.
The only problem I have with tanks are that they kill me to fast. LOL. =ƒÿÿ
In my mind tanks and AV are more balanced now then ever before, leave them alone please. |
BAD FURRY
Oh No You Didn't
842
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Posted - 2015.04.20 12:20:00 -
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Ryanjr TUG wrote:Hello I am KOK,
>>>loading data for #OP_AV >>Loading complete
We are "hosting" a user made "event". The "Event" is for who tired of tankers, ADS, and LAVs. You don't need to chat with us on this a "Event", but if you must how a chat name here it's "Knight Killers PUB". The "Event" is to cost tankers a lot of ISK, so they don't play the game no more, like all other Dust 514 players do. We want av to get a buff, but not to much. We feel as though AV is not has good, and we can't take on Proto tanks with AV. >>
i think your in the wrong game !
get a tank uses the a tank and try to get more kills in 10 games then you would in a drop suit in 10 game .
o and your going to need around 30 mill Sp for a maxed out pro tank fit and then some. so unless you ... A. have a pro tank that's fitted the rite way that's costs 30+ mill sp B. have av sp at lest 5 mill
dont talk about buffing AV when tanks only run 3500 ~ hp have mod lag and HD bugs as well as cost alot and cant look at the map when inside a building.
same with all others drops ships and lav,s the game over nerfed on and over powered tanks and av.
your drop suit cost what now 10k ? pro tanks 1mill+ dud its you and players like you that are killing this game ! i bet you have not even played eve for more then a year .
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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BAD FURRY
Oh No You Didn't
842
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Posted - 2015.04.20 12:22:00 -
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O and PS: i can kill a pro tank with BPO av SL and bpo av nades and i got lest then 1mill sp in it so whats wrong with you ?!?
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1293
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Posted - 2015.04.20 12:27:00 -
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Hey OP i'll tell you something. People will never run out of tanks. Why do you think they are [me too!] driving in adv/pro tanks in pubs? Cuz they have isk to do so. And you know.. ISK won't be a problem for any of us.
Caldari Loyalist
thecreaturehub fan
Mejt0 Sale List
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion.
350
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Posted - 2015.04.20 13:00:00 -
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Ryanjr TUG wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:..........
AV needs a buff? Please.... My incubus is already two shot from everything... (300 rep) At base armor one volley of wyr can kill me unless i AB and fly as far away as I can. If i turn wrong at the beginning, i might as well give up because it hits like a wyr breach.
Same for my python... It dishes out 1.2k damage. Three shot for the standard python-2555 fit.
Only one python fit can look at AV and laugh but... You're out for 60 seconds at max skills... And if someone gets the jump on you, just give up. 300 sHP isn't enough to tank the damage.
Buff ads then let's talk... Buff in prices, and AV need a buff, because of Pro tanks. We need to have a buff in all things of this game (KT 60s). We more AV to get redid of Pro tanks. Don't you have a red line, and afterburners that goes out of our range? The A.D.S has had so mini buffs if you died your a dumb ass. Me and a mate hit one with full proto FG suits still lived, because of how much A.D.S lag in the air. Most of us think A.D.S lag out servers, and games hacking or not. A.D.S do need a buff. A buff in ISK cost. #OP_AV coming 25th.
Buffing AV for tanks completely offsets balance. Dropships already have enough struggle.
Please tell me these mini buffs... if they even exist. We have a redline, but who flies in the redline the entire game?
I can't even go for a quick pick up, i have to drop off from 100+ m of altitude. No renders all over and swarm launchers hitting like a wyr breach forge gun. AB increases m/s^2, not m/s. Also, how are we all "dumbasses" if we can only run as fast as we can. We cannot challenge, it's to the level that swarmers run out of cover because they know we can't react; that we can only run away!
And you have the audacity to say we are dumbasses. We ADS pilots have to adapt to being nerfed or av being buffed for tanks. Why are we the ones being treated as second rate, scum of the earth?
Even a DS can't even be a DS. It's absurd. What am I? A one way trip? A 150k (well built DS) one way trip?
If you can disprove that, I'll give you 20 mil isk.
The only problem is armor hardeners, not all the vehicles... Jeez... No need to buff AV because of one module.
The ADS tourney! Join today!
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Galvatrona
Death Merchants Inc.
5
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Posted - 2015.04.20 13:26:00 -
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Hmmm buffing cost, sounds like a good idea. seeing as tanks went up in cost I believe the next item to get a "ISK buff" are AV weapons including AV grenades, now woulden't that make a fair argument. Using a rail turret sucks now as you only get 3 shots and have to use a cooler to get it to shoot 4 times, this makes using a rail turret cost more than the original cost of the turret because you can't down an armor tank without a cooler. Now you might want to add a damage mod on there further bringing up the cost of using a rail turret and that's 2 of your mod slots gone just to make the turret worthy of firing on another tank. Armor tanks running a proto blaster don't need to use any of the mod slots towards the use of the turret just use them all towards the survival of the tank. Now you bring AV into the mix, the cost of AV weapons didn't go up with the cost of vehicles but if you want to put it to basic cost, you might HAVE to run your suit a little lighter to fit on more damage mods. This in turn would bring up the cost in suits by dieing in them more often. Or you might want o get a partner to hep you don the tank, either way its going to cost you more to down a proto tank than a basic tank. Hey heres a good idea if the cost of AV weapons don't go up but they receive a buff, the cost of proto and advanced tanks should go down without receiving a tank buff? |
Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
477
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Posted - 2015.04.20 15:53:00 -
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Ryanjr TUG wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:Ryanjr TUG wrote:Hello I am KOK,
>>>loading data for #OP_AV >>Loading complete
We are "hosting" a user made "event". The "Event" is for who tired of tankers, ADS, and LAVs. You don't need to chat with us on this a "Event", but if you must how a chat name here it's "Knight Killers PUB". The "Event" is to cost tankers a lot of ISK, so they don't play the game no more, like all other Dust 514 players do. We want av to get a buff, but not to much. We feel as though AV is not has good, and we can't take on Proto tanks with AV. >> Scrubs ..event full of ******* scrubs ..av is fine tanks are NOT op stfu .. Coming form a tanker? No coming from someone who has every role in dust ..your QQ is empty and you know it. fact of the matter is tanks and av are ina good place. So of course people who want things easy are crying ..just like before ..throughout lol of dust whenever tanks get close to balance unskilled and skilled avers alike all cry and get and buffed for easy mode ..
Been a av spec and tanker for 3 years it's an endless cycle
The death of love
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
477
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Posted - 2015.04.20 15:55:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:I've yet to meet a vehicle that 2 wiyrkomi breach forges didn't alpha through with its hardeners down. I'm not sure if this guy thinks tanks are op or not ....it's very hard to understand. .but yes min your right 2 wok breach forges posted have insane alpha and personally av and vehicles have never been closer to being this right since chromosome ..
Av doesn't need a buff
The death of love
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SLENDER M4N
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
124
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Posted - 2015.04.20 16:29:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:Ryanjr TUG wrote:Hello I am KOK,
>>>loading data for #OP_AV >>Loading complete
We are "hosting" a user made "event". The "Event" is for who tired of tankers, ADS, and LAVs. You don't need to chat with us on this a "Event", but if you must how a chat name here it's "Knight Killers PUB". The "Event" is to cost tankers a lot of ISK, so they don't play the game no more, like all other Dust 514 players do. We want av to get a buff, but not to much. We feel as though AV is not has good, and we can't take on Proto tanks with AV. >> Scrubs ..event full of ******* scrubs ..av is fine tanks are NOT op stfu .. I srtongly agree senpai! #Tanks_NotOP
Scrub till the day I die.
PSN: ca2334ca
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Ku Shala
PIanet Express Smart Deploy
1382
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Posted - 2015.04.20 16:32:00 -
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tanks need a hard cap of 2 per side then av is close to balanced imo
-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist x5)
Caldari Loyalist
22 230 780 sp in drop suit upgrades
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Slave of MORTE
395
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Posted - 2015.04.20 16:33:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Ryanjr TUG wrote:Hello I am KOK,
>>>loading data for #OP_AV >>Loading complete
We are "hosting" a user made "event". The "Event" is for who tired of tankers, ADS, and LAVs. You don't need to chat with us on this a "Event", but if you must how a chat name here it's "Knight Killers PUB". The "Event" is to cost tankers a lot of ISK, so they don't play the game no more, like all other Dust 514 players do. We want av to get a buff, but not to much. We feel as though AV is not has good, and we can't take on Proto tanks with AV. >> i think your in the wrong game ! get a tank uses the a tank and try to get more kills in 10 games then you would in a drop suit in 10 game . o and your going to need around 30 mill Sp for a maxed out pro tank fit and then some. so unless you ... A. have a pro tank that's fitted the rite way that's costs 30+ mill sp B. have av sp at lest 5 mill dont talk about buffing AV when tanks only run 3500 ~ hp have mod lag and HD bugs as well as cost alot and cant look at the map when inside a building. same with all others drops ships and lav,s the game over nerfed on and over powered tanks and av. your drop suit cost what now 10k ? pro tanks 1mill+ dud its you and players like you that are killing this game ! i bet you have not even played eve for more then a year .
I get more kills with my lr assault than with my tank and people are still QQ
I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
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Slave of MORTE
395
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Posted - 2015.04.20 16:35:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:tanks need a hard cap of 2 per side then av is close to balanced imo Perhaps ccp needs to put an average of 5 players with balls on each side instead of 16 crying babies
Seriously 2 tanks per match ..then who am I gunna blow up with av ..stop trying to limit the versatility of dust. Bloody hell if my stoned +++ can still solo foolhardy proto tanks than your crying +++ can get good
I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
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DUST Fiend
16453
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Posted - 2015.04.20 17:02:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I too am sick of pilots ruining the game for us terrestrial, fleshy, meat sacks and will not stand for it! Justice for infantry! Freedom for the oppressed AV! Blood and Oil for the God's of Slaughter!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGH!
You have my 80Gj Ion Cannon good sir! All maps replaced with indoor maps. Each has MASSIVE indoor spaces, but if you call in an RDV it crashes into the roof.
"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."
STUFF
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Balistyc Farshot
OUTCAST MERCS General Tso's Alliance
144
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Posted - 2015.04.20 17:32:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:I've yet to meet a vehicle that 2 wiyrkomi breach forges didn't alpha through with its hardeners down.
When did you see that happen?
The forge gun needs a buff is the real point I think he wants to make. If you get hit by 2 breach forges from one heavy you are a terrible pilot. What were you doing during the 8 seconds of charge up while the heavy can barely move? Anyone who is skilled in forges knows ADS fall to Assault for the aim adjustment between shots and tanks get the standard. Breach is just broken. I can do the math but I don't think you care. The PLC is more effective than a forge gun on tanks and a scout can run those.
Ok, I hate REs and Blues. So I am going to use them until they stop me!
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Balistyc Farshot
OUTCAST MERCS General Tso's Alliance
144
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Posted - 2015.04.20 17:36:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:Ku Shala wrote:tanks need a hard cap of 2 per side then av is close to balanced imo Perhaps ccp needs to put an average of 5 players with balls on each side instead of 16 crying babies Seriously 2 tanks per match ..then who am I gunna blow up with av ..stop trying to limit the versatility of dust. Bloody hell if my stoned +++ can still solo foolhardy proto tanks than your crying +++ can get good
+1 for being awesome. I just get my scout with REs and PLC. Tank stew. Plus with blues, they can't hit you at all.
Ok, I hate REs and Blues. So I am going to use them until they stop me!
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Slave of MORTE
397
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Posted - 2015.04.20 17:57:00 -
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Balistyc Farshot wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:Ku Shala wrote:tanks need a hard cap of 2 per side then av is close to balanced imo Perhaps ccp needs to put an average of 5 players with balls on each side instead of 16 crying babies Seriously 2 tanks per match ..then who am I gunna blow up with av ..stop trying to limit the versatility of dust. Bloody hell if my stoned +++ can still solo foolhardy proto tanks than your crying +++ can get good +1 for being awesome. I just get my scout with REs and PLC. Tank stew. Plus with blues, they can't hit you at all. Lol same i run a jumpy plc scout with re's and av nades
I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
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SLENDER M4N
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
125
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Posted - 2015.04.20 18:04:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:Balistyc Farshot wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:Ku Shala wrote:tanks need a hard cap of 2 per side then av is close to balanced imo Perhaps ccp needs to put an average of 5 players with balls on each side instead of 16 crying babies Seriously 2 tanks per match ..then who am I gunna blow up with av ..stop trying to limit the versatility of dust. Bloody hell if my stoned +++ can still solo foolhardy proto tanks than your crying +++ can get good +1 for being awesome. I just get my scout with REs and PLC. Tank stew. Plus with blues, they can't hit you at all. Lol same i run a jumpy plc scout with re's and av nades The Assault gk.0 is really good as an AV fit. It never fails. I dont know what OP is talking aboot
Scrub till the day I die.
PSN: ca2334ca
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DUST Fiend
16455
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Posted - 2015.04.20 18:27:00 -
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Balistyc Farshot wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:I've yet to meet a vehicle that 2 wiyrkomi breach forges didn't alpha through with its hardeners down. When did you see that happen? The forge gun needs a buff is the real point I think he wants to make. If you get hit by 2 breach forges from one heavy you are a terrible pilot. What were you doing during the 8 seconds of charge up while the heavy can barely move? Anyone who is skilled in forges knows ADS fall to Assault for the aim adjustment between shots and tanks get the standard. Breach is just broken. I can do the math but I don't think you care. The PLC is more effective than a forge gun on tanks and a scout can run those. He said there were 2 Breach forge guns.....
The breach has ALWAYS been the team oriented weapon because the high Alpha damage allows one other AV of any kind to sync up to you and deal insane burst damage. As a pilot I fear breach forge gun more because evading forge guns is fairly easy once they've made themselves known, so that first shot is always the worst.
"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."
STUFF
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion.
352
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Posted - 2015.04.20 18:38:00 -
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Balistyc Farshot wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:I've yet to meet a vehicle that 2 wiyrkomi breach forges didn't alpha through with its hardeners down. When did you see that happen? The forge gun needs a buff is the real point I think he wants to make. If you get hit by 2 breach forges from one heavy you are a terrible pilot. What were you doing during the 8 seconds of charge up while the heavy can barely move? Anyone who is skilled in forges knows ADS fall to Assault for the aim adjustment between shots and tanks get the standard. Breach is just broken. I can do the math but I don't think you care. The PLC is more effective than a forge gun on tanks and a scout can run those.
If i see wyr breach, it's a super quick recall. its the only thing that makes me terrified...
Especially if I see them hopping... Then I know it's run away as fast as you can, sometimes it's not worth the challenge.
Breach is psychologically OP. And it hits like a truck.
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Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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BAD FURRY wrote:O and PS: i can kill a pro tank with BPO av SL and bpo av nades and i got lest then 1mill sp in it so whats wrong with you ?!?
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Balistyc Farshot
OUTCAST MERCS General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.20 21:39:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:Balistyc Farshot wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:I've yet to meet a vehicle that 2 wiyrkomi breach forges didn't alpha through with its hardeners down. When did you see that happen? The forge gun needs a buff is the real point I think he wants to make. If you get hit by 2 breach forges from one heavy you are a terrible pilot. What were you doing during the 8 seconds of charge up while the heavy can barely move? Anyone who is skilled in forges knows ADS fall to Assault for the aim adjustment between shots and tanks get the standard. Breach is just broken. I can do the math but I don't think you care. The PLC is more effective than a forge gun on tanks and a scout can run those. If i see wyr breach, it's a super quick recall. its the only thing that makes me terrified... Especially if I see them hopping... Then I know it's run away as fast as you can, sometimes it's not worth the challenge. Breach is psychologically OP. And it hits like a truck.
If you say so. I agree, two of them coordinated is powerful but so are 2 sets of swarmers or PLCs.
I could see psychologically. The problem is that 2 heavies have dedicated everything to alpha you. As I have said before in posts. Tip your hat in acknowledgement for downing you hard, flip to a new suit, and get easy revenge. They can't fight back against infantry at all.
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.20 22:50:00 -
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I really don't think getting a rid of vehicles is the answer we need. I don't think there's anything wrong, with forming s group to AV. As far as a better balance of vehicles and troops. I think that needs to be looked into, some. It still seems a bit off. But much better than the last time I left the game
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.04.20 22:55:00 -
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Balistyc Farshot wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:I've yet to meet a vehicle that 2 wiyrkomi breach forges didn't alpha through with its hardeners down. When did you see that happen? The forge gun needs a buff is the real point I think he wants to make. If you get hit by 2 breach forges from one heavy you are a terrible pilot. What were you doing during the 8 seconds of charge up while the heavy can barely move? Anyone who is skilled in forges knows ADS fall to Assault for the aim adjustment between shots and tanks get the standard. Breach is just broken. I can do the math but I don't think you care. The PLC is more effective than a forge gun on tanks and a scout can run those.
I see it happen when I do it. And I'm not talking about one person shooting two shots, I'm talking about two people shooting one shot each. Alpha strike is a scary thing.
Even multiple standard / assault forges can't kill a 2x rep 1 hardener 1 plate tank without having to land ~7-10 shots.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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Ryanjr TUG
KnightKiller's inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:51:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:Ryanjr TUG wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:..........
AV needs a buff? Please.... My incubus is already two shot from everything... (300 rep) At base armor one volley of wyr can kill me unless i AB and fly as far away as I can. If i turn wrong at the beginning, i might as well give up because it hits like a wyr breach.
Same for my python... It dishes out 1.2k damage. Three shot for the standard python-2555 fit.
Only one python fit can look at AV and laugh but... You're out for 60 seconds at max skills... And if someone gets the jump on you, just give up. 300 sHP isn't enough to tank the damage.
Buff ads then let's talk... Buff in prices, and AV need a buff, because of Pro tanks. We need to have a buff in all things of this game (KT 60s). We more AV to get redid of Pro tanks. Don't you have a red line, and afterburners that goes out of our range? The A.D.S has had so mini buffs if you died your a dumb ass. Me and a mate hit one with full proto FG suits still lived, because of how much A.D.S lag in the air. Most of us think A.D.S lag out servers, and games hacking or not. A.D.S do need a buff. A buff in ISK cost. #OP_AV coming 25th. Buffing AV for tanks completely offsets balance. Dropships already have enough struggle. Please tell me these mini buffs... if they even exist. We have a redline, but who flies in the redline the entire game? I can't even go for a quick pick up, i have to drop off from 100+ m of altitude. No renders all over and swarm launchers hitting like a wyr breach forge gun. AB increases m/s^2, not m/s. Also, how are we all "dumbasses" if we can only run as fast as we can. We cannot challenge, it's to the level that swarmers run out of cover because they know we can't react; that we can only run away! And you have the audacity to say we are dumbasses. We ADS pilots have to adapt to being nerfed or av being buffed for tanks. Why are we the ones being treated as second rate, scum of the earth? Even a DS can't even be a DS. It's absurd. What am I? A one way trip? A 150k (well built DS) one way trip? If you can disprove that, I'll give you 20 mil isk. The only problem is armor hardeners, not all the vehicles... Jeez... No need to buff AV because of one module.
>We see that this game needs work, and we started with ScRs, Vscans, And more. We have had Operations to get what we feel that's needs to be nerfed. We have done good so far in our Ops to get stuff nerf, but so C.C.P will take our fights, and our Ideas. We still are still trying to fix this game. We stand for a far game. We hacve asked CCP for a test server, but they do not relpy. They know with a server we can show there lies. We do not want to make this game go bye, bye, but we want it to stay. C.C.P you need to open your eyes. Can you not see that most Dust 514 players do not want new players in the game. You run proto stomps to show this. C.C.P open your eyes. We need to come to become legion. We need to have more say in what's going on in the game. We don't think proto tanks coming was a bad idea, but you need to baby it up like ever other thing in the game. We don't see a good time to kill in this (TTK: 1:00) game. We think heavies need to be buffed, because a shout can take a heavy on and win most of the time. This is a face to face fight(BTW). You to stop nerfing the MK.0 logic has it was fine. C.C.P open your eyes. We do not need this high jumping stuff. This game was a good game, and other like it now it have rip so much that's it a all in one. We are open about all ops, and Ideas. We will not put fw a ops if it's not need by us, or we feel that this is not need.
Proto tanks have open beta standers. JS
ADS are fine even with the buff in AV. You still have range. I feel that you are by, so We will not note your comments .
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Ryanjr TUG
KnightKiller's inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:55:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:Balistyc Farshot wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:I've yet to meet a vehicle that 2 wiyrkomi breach forges didn't alpha through with its hardeners down. When did you see that happen? The forge gun needs a buff is the real point I think he wants to make. If you get hit by 2 breach forges from one heavy you are a terrible pilot. What were you doing during the 8 seconds of charge up while the heavy can barely move? Anyone who is skilled in forges knows ADS fall to Assault for the aim adjustment between shots and tanks get the standard. Breach is just broken. I can do the math but I don't think you care. The PLC is more effective than a forge gun on tanks and a scout can run those. If i see wyr breach, it's a super quick recall. its the only thing that makes me terrified... Especially if I see them hopping... Then I know it's run away as fast as you can, sometimes it's not worth the challenge. Breach is psychologically OP. And it hits like a truck.
ADS are OP we need to look at a ADS form a 2015 stand point. It's a what? Yup a plan, and what happiness to plans when hit by a tank, other a RPG? Go down.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:58:00 -
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Ryanjr TUG wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Balistyc Farshot wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:I've yet to meet a vehicle that 2 wiyrkomi breach forges didn't alpha through with its hardeners down. When did you see that happen? The forge gun needs a buff is the real point I think he wants to make. If you get hit by 2 breach forges from one heavy you are a terrible pilot. What were you doing during the 8 seconds of charge up while the heavy can barely move? Anyone who is skilled in forges knows ADS fall to Assault for the aim adjustment between shots and tanks get the standard. Breach is just broken. I can do the math but I don't think you care. The PLC is more effective than a forge gun on tanks and a scout can run those. If i see wyr breach, it's a super quick recall. its the only thing that makes me terrified... Especially if I see them hopping... Then I know it's run away as fast as you can, sometimes it's not worth the challenge. Breach is psychologically OP. And it hits like a truck. ADS are OP we need to look at a ADS form a 2015 stand point. It's a what? Yup a plan, and what happiness to plans when hit by a tank, other a RPG? Go down. The corrupt Fear us, The Honest support us The Heroic Join us #OP_AV coming the 25th It's actually a plane.
SOGZ PANDA: But i also agree with lorhak cause he's an aussie and aussies are always right
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Ryanjr TUG
KnightKiller's inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.21 14:04:00 -
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Galvatrona wrote:Hmmm buffing cost, sounds like a good idea. seeing as tanks went up in cost I believe the next item to get a "ISK buff" are AV weapons including AV grenades, now woulden't that make a fair argument. Using a rail turret sucks now as you only get 3 shots and have to use a cooler to get it to shoot 4 times, this makes using a rail turret cost more than the original cost of the turret because you can't down an armor tank without a cooler. Now you might want to add a damage mod on there further bringing up the cost of using a rail turret and that's 2 of your mod slots gone just to make the turret worthy of firing on another tank. Armor tanks running a proto blaster don't need to use any of the mod slots towards the use of the turret just use them all towards the survival of the tank. Now you bring AV into the mix, the cost of AV weapons didn't go up with the cost of vehicles but if you want to put it to basic cost, you might HAVE to run your suit a little lighter to fit on more damage mods. This in turn would bring up the cost in suits by dieing in them more often. Or you might want o get a partner to hep you don the tank, either way its going to cost you more to down a proto tank than a basic tank. Hey heres a good idea if the cost of AV weapons don't go up but they receive a buff, the cost of proto and advanced tanks should go down without receiving a tank buff?
We would not mind if AV, or proto where you have to pay more isk for it. AV needs a buff, or proto tanks needs a nerf.
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Ryanjr TUG
KnightKiller's inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.21 14:06:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Ryanjr TUG wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Balistyc Farshot wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:I've yet to meet a vehicle that 2 wiyrkomi breach forges didn't alpha through with its hardeners down. When did you see that happen? The forge gun needs a buff is the real point I think he wants to make. If you get hit by 2 breach forges from one heavy you are a terrible pilot. What were you doing during the 8 seconds of charge up while the heavy can barely move? Anyone who is skilled in forges knows ADS fall to Assault for the aim adjustment between shots and tanks get the standard. Breach is just broken. I can do the math but I don't think you care. The PLC is more effective than a forge gun on tanks and a scout can run those. If i see wyr breach, it's a super quick recall. its the only thing that makes me terrified... Especially if I see them hopping... Then I know it's run away as fast as you can, sometimes it's not worth the challenge. Breach is psychologically OP. And it hits like a truck. ADS are OP we need to look at a ADS form a 2015 stand point. It's a what? Yup a plan, and what happiness to plans when hit by a tank, other a RPG? Go down. The corrupt Fear us, The Honest support us The Heroic Join us #OP_AV coming the 25th It's actually a plane.
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.18 13:27:00 -
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Ryanjr TUG wrote:Galvatrona wrote:Hmmm buffing cost, sounds like a good idea. seeing as tanks went up in cost I believe the next item to get a "ISK buff" are AV weapons including AV grenades, now woulden't that make a fair argument. Using a rail turret sucks now as you only get 3 shots and have to use a cooler to get it to shoot 4 times, this makes using a rail turret cost more than the original cost of the turret because you can't down an armor tank without a cooler. Now you might want to add a damage mod on there further bringing up the cost of using a rail turret and that's 2 of your mod slots gone just to make the turret worthy of firing on another tank. Armor tanks running a proto blaster don't need to use any of the mod slots towards the use of the turret just use them all towards the survival of the tank. Now you bring AV into the mix, the cost of AV weapons didn't go up with the cost of vehicles but if you want to put it to basic cost, you might HAVE to run your suit a little lighter to fit on more damage mods. This in turn would bring up the cost in suits by dieing in them more often. Or you might want o get a partner to hep you don the tank, either way its going to cost you more to down a proto tank than a basic tank. Hey heres a good idea if the cost of AV weapons don't go up but they receive a buff, the cost of proto and advanced tanks should go down without receiving a tank buff? We would not mind if AV, or proto where you have to pay more isk for it. AV needs a buff, or proto tanks needs a nerf. Lol no still no .. I should really stop jumping alt's but this thread us just so addictive ..
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