+1 for being awesome. I just get my scout with REs and PLC. Tank stew. Plus with blues, they can't hit you at all.

Lol same i run a jumpy plc scout with re's and av nades

When did you see that happen?

The forge gun needs a buff is the real point I think he wants to make. If you get hit by 2 breach forges from one heavy you are a terrible pilot. What were you doing during the 8 seconds of charge up while the heavy can barely move? Anyone who is skilled in forges knows ADS fall to Assault for the aim adjustment between shots and tanks get the standard. Breach is just broken. I can do the math but I don't think you care. The PLC is more effective than a forge gun on tanks and a scout can run those.

When did you see that happen?

The forge gun needs a buff is the real point I think he wants to make. If you get hit by 2 breach forges from one heavy you are a terrible pilot. What were you doing during the 8 seconds of charge up while the heavy can barely move? Anyone who is skilled in forges knows ADS fall to Assault for the aim adjustment between shots and tanks get the standard. Breach is just broken. I can do the math but I don't think you care. The PLC is more effective than a forge gun on tanks and a scout can run those.

O and PS: i can kill a pro tank with BPO av SL and bpo av nades and i got lest then 1mill sp in it so whats wrong with you ?!?

If i see wyr breach, it's a super quick recall. its the only thing that makes me terrified...

Especially if I see them hopping... Then I know it's run away as fast as you can, sometimes it's not worth the challenge.

Breach is psychologically OP. And it hits like a truck.

When did you see that happen?

The forge gun needs a buff is the real point I think he wants to make. If you get hit by 2 breach forges from one heavy you are a terrible pilot. What were you doing during the 8 seconds of charge up while the heavy can barely move? Anyone who is skilled in forges knows ADS fall to Assault for the aim adjustment between shots and tanks get the standard. Breach is just broken. I can do the math but I don't think you care. The PLC is more effective than a forge gun on tanks and a scout can run those.

Buffing AV for tanks completely offsets balance. Dropships already have enough struggle.

Please tell me these mini buffs... if they even exist.
We have a redline, but who flies in the redline the entire game?

I can't even go for a quick pick up, i have to drop off from 100+ m of altitude. No renders all over and swarm launchers hitting like a wyr breach forge gun. AB increases m/s^2, not m/s. Also, how are we all "dumbasses" if we can only run as fast as we can. We cannot challenge, it's to the level that swarmers run out of cover because they know we can't react; that we can only run away!

And you have the audacity to say we are dumbasses. We ADS pilots have to adapt to being nerfed or av being buffed for tanks. Why are we the ones being treated as second rate, scum of the earth?

Even a DS can't even be a DS. It's absurd. What am I? A one way trip? A 150k (well built DS) one way trip?

If you can disprove that, I'll give you 20 mil isk.

The only problem is armor hardeners, not all the vehicles... Jeez... No need to buff AV because of one module.

If i see wyr breach, it's a super quick recall. its the only thing that makes me terrified...

Especially if I see them hopping... Then I know it's run away as fast as you can, sometimes it's not worth the challenge.

Breach is psychologically OP. And it hits like a truck.

ADS are OP we need to look at a ADS form a 2015 stand point. It's a what? Yup a plan, and what happiness to plans when hit by a tank, other a RPG? Go down.


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Hmmm buffing cost, sounds like a good idea. seeing as tanks went up in cost I believe the next item to get a "ISK buff" are AV weapons including AV grenades, now woulden't that make a fair argument. Using a rail turret sucks now as you only get 3 shots and have to use a cooler to get it to shoot 4 times, this makes using a rail turret cost more than the original cost of the turret because you can't down an armor tank without a cooler. Now you might want to add a damage mod on there further bringing up the cost of using a rail turret and that's 2 of your mod slots gone just to make the turret worthy of firing on another tank. Armor tanks running a proto blaster don't need to use any of the mod slots towards the use of the turret just use them all towards the survival of the tank. Now you bring AV into the mix, the cost of AV weapons didn't go up with the cost of vehicles but if you want to put it to basic cost, you might HAVE to run your suit a little lighter to fit on more damage mods. This in turn would bring up the cost in suits by dieing in them more often. Or you might want o get a partner to hep you don the tank, either way its going to cost you more to down a proto tank than a basic tank. Hey heres a good idea if the cost of AV weapons don't go up but they receive a buff, the cost of proto and advanced tanks should go down without receiving a tank buff?

It's actually a plane.

We would not mind if AV, or proto where you have to pay more isk for it. AV needs a buff, or proto tanks needs a nerf.