Who exactly is 'WE THE COMMUNITY'?

I certainly don't remember ever begging for placeholders. My issue is that once placeholders are put in new 3D models will never arrive. The devs will no longer see completing the racial lineup as a priority and these 'placeholders' will be all we ever get.

The devs shouldn't add things in the game unless they can be proud to so so and we as players should accept nothing less.

The vocal minority who shout loudest on these forums will do well to remember that the are only part of this community and not THE community. I feel that CCP need to be reminded of this when listening to the vocal few on these forums.

Vocal "minority" my ass.

Why put new content in the game if they can even make it well and pretty sure they could use money to develop it and get a 3d modeller.....I'm not being ungrateful I'm just one person who actual knows what it mean to develop a game , not reskinning everything

Months? We pushed it for YEARS

Practically since closed beta. It's amazing how people forget in a span of a couple of years.

I'm pretty sure we asked for placeholders for absolutely everything since closed beta.

Memory issues? Well how about it if you cut the 600 miles of redline off the map? Im sure we dont need that much of space that we cant access anyway. Ya know if we are not supposed to go there why put it there in the first place? And with "there" i mean the no mans land.

That and we dont have enough rescources

Bit behind the times on it aren't you?

1) Racial tanks desperately needed to be added for amarr & min
2) We asked for placeholder tanks that accurately represent the stats of each race
3) I'm not aware of anyone that's actually doing 3d modeling on the dust 514 team
4) Even if they had a 3d modeller at the moment, they're facing memory issues on the hardware (aka, your ps3 melts when trying to run the game).
5) Quit being an ungrateful snot that something is actually being developed and worked on just because it doesn't have something shiny attached to it.

You see, here's the thing. I would rather wait for 'real' racial tanks.

Why put new content in the game if they can even make it well and pretty sure they could use money to develop it and get a 3d modeller.....I'm not being ungrateful I'm just one person who actual knows what it mean to develop a game , not reskinning everything

Another good point to make sure everyone sees.

This is not CCP being lazy. WE pushed for this for months.

This is emblematic of CCP Rattati listening to us more than anyone else we've dealt with so far.

HTFU you are NOT, I repeat NOT, taking Amarr tanks away from me for any reason. Place holders or individual models they need to be added at some point and right now without the capability to produce unique models place holders are all we can ask for.

Who exactly is 'WE THE COMMUNITY'?

I certainly don't remember ever begging for placeholders. My issue is that once placeholders are put in new 3D models will never arrive. The devs will no longer see completing the racial lineup as a priority and these 'placeholders' will be all we ever get.

The devs shouldn't add things in the game unless they can be proud to so so and we as players should accept nothing less.

The vocal minority who shout loudest on these forums will do well to remember that the are only part of this community and not THE community. I feel that CCP need to be reminded of this when listening to the vocal few on these forums.

How is possible (for example) borderlands can generate bazilions of combination in weaponry?
How battlefield can have destroyable engine?

OPTIMIZATION nothing else.

All bullshates about memory are just excuses.
And everyone who think otherwise should take look how its work.

Good job CCP for not being able to hire a graphics design guy

Good job ccp for being so lazy that you can't even design a tank for this game.

Okay I was wrong , I didn't know all of the issues...you guys win

I would also like to remind players that Dust 514's database is structured entirely differently from so many games.

Borderlands may have bajillion guns.

You can only have 100 or so stored at any given time.

Dust 514 has currently no upper limit known yet. We're likely to hit eve limits though when it comes time but we're far from that atm.

I'd rather have 100 different guns than 700 variants of the same guns

iws said there out of room but DCU has more skills and stuff soo they might have a memory leak. not sure whats going on.

Depends on how you stack your database; some games don't have more than one gun and just have variations on the model and stats but all stemming from the same family. Older games are not likely to have this kind of db family stacking though and have individual pages for each weapon. Newer games however do the family stacking so that it becomes easier to define not only a whole group but modify the entire tree or branches of that tree at a time; IE nerf all semi-auto rifles the same would be simply going into the semi-auto rifle branch and changing the attribute there. Then you check the end 'leaves' of the branch to make sure you didn't break anything.

Eve's database (and to an extent ours) is very similar on this concept; An entry for a Thorax includes; The Blueprint, Blueprint original, produced item when packaged, produced item when unpacked, and all tech 2 and pilot variations and their blueprints and the likes on one page. Instead of 30 or so. This can cause some problems because every item in the game is treated in this manner. Random space rock? Blueprint for that too. Missile fired from your launcher? Blueprint for that specific instance of that time as well. (this has been seemingly fixed I cannot target missiles anymore and it caused immense amount of lag) but say you want to nerf all Gallente Cruisers; you cant do it in one go on a single attribute you have to tune each one individually. Dust 514 has consistently expressed this problem over and over again as some of you found out.

Either way Dust and Eve has things going for it (immense storage space) and bad things going for it (the very strict dependency of items being in a 'physical' location) which has had made player trading extremely hard pursuit because the eve wide inventory doesn't have a 'teleporter' for items to simply go from your inventory into x players inventory 30 jumps away.

Other games DB has things going for it as well but they also have limits; Namely their items have extreme number of properties allowing for massive amounts of variety at acceptable memory costs. You can easily via attachments and doohickeys give the apperance of 50 different guns while its still technically 1 gun base model. CoD AW expresses this rather strongly if you're playing with a really shoddy connection the content doesn't stream that well and you can see that even guns that are supposed to be more unique looking have a base 'grey' model shared between all variants of the gun or its modifications.

I dont care. I play video games, I dont design them.

CCP can make excuses all day long, and so can the part of their player base that doesnt want to be critical of the consequences of that design (a dissapointing game with massive wasted potential).

Its ok though, once Crowfall or Star Citizen comes out, you'll probably never see me again. l;

I'm pretty sure the small branch of Star Citizens team for Squadron 42 is bigger than the entire DUST team put together

They have some of the original designers for Cryengine on their team, which is pretty sick.