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Mobius Wyvern wrote:

Indianna Pwns wrote:

Who exactly is 'WE THE COMMUNITY'?

I certainly don't remember ever begging for placeholders. My issue is that once placeholders are put in new 3D models will never arrive. The devs will no longer see completing the racial lineup as a priority and these 'placeholders' will be all we ever get.

The devs shouldn't add things in the game unless they can be proud to so so and we as players should accept nothing less.

The vocal minority who shout loudest on these forums will do well to remember that the are only part of this community and not THE community. I feel that CCP need to be reminded of this when listening to the vocal few on these forums.

Okay, let me stop you right there.

The point of putting in Placeholders is so that they can hold a place.

The "vocal minority" is not working against what everyone else wants here. In case you didn't notice, the thread where CCP Rattati posted the images of the re-skins was almost entirely filled with positive responses. If you're going to claim that every single one of those people was somehow part of this "vocal minority" you speak of than I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

These re-skinned vehicles will allow for Minmatar and Amarr players to have something aimed at their racial playstyle to use up until the actual models for them and new weapons for them can be introduced.

Having the placeholders put into the game is absolutely better than having nothing at all for anyone who plays Minmatar or Amarr up until the models can finally be put into the game.

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fish sticks24 Eternal Beings 5	Posted - 2015.04.19 12:50:00 - [1] - Quote Good job ccp for being so lazy that you can't even design a tank for this game. -fishing for blood-
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2606	Posted - 2015.04.19 12:53:00 - [2] - Quote fish sticks24 wrote: Good job ccp for being so lazy that you can't even design a tank for this game. Bit behind the times on it aren't you? 1) Racial tanks desperately needed to be added for amarr & min 2) We asked for placeholder tanks that accurately represent the stats of each race 3) I'm not aware of anyone that's actually doing 3d modeling on the dust 514 team 4) Even if they had a 3d modeller at the moment, they're facing memory issues on the hardware (aka, your ps3 melts when trying to run the game). 5) Quit being an ungrateful snot that something is actually being developed and worked on just because it doesn't have something shiny attached to it. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
VALCORE72 Vengeance Unbound RUST415 292	Posted - 2015.04.19 12:55:00 - [3] - Quote iws said there out of room but DCU has more skills and stuff soo they might have a memory leak. not sure whats going on. asian haters united lol .
fish sticks24 Eternal Beings 5	Posted - 2015.04.19 12:57:00 - [4] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: fish sticks24 wrote: Good job ccp for being so lazy that you can't even design a tank for this game. Bit behind the times on it aren't you? 1) Racial tanks desperately needed to be added for amarr & min 2) We asked for placeholder tanks that accurately represent the stats of each race 3) I'm not aware of anyone that's actually doing 3d modeling on the dust 514 team 4) Even if they had a 3d modeller at the moment, they're facing memory issues on the hardware (aka, your ps3 melts when trying to run the game). 5) Quit being an ungrateful snot that something is actually being developed and worked on just because it doesn't have something shiny attached to it. Why put new content in the game if they can even make it well and pretty sure they could use money to develop it and get a 3d modeller.....I'm not being ungrateful I'm just one person who actual knows what it mean to develop a game , not reskinning everything -fishing for blood-
Denchlad 7 Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2073	Posted - 2015.04.19 12:59:00 - [5] - Quote See here forum dwellers, we can see a specimen of "forum noob" who is too dense to use their brain and workout the logic behind this decision, and that they are placeholders for future updates. Lrn 2 youse ur brayn fgt "Dench stop hitting your head you Caldari pinball" - m6 Currently on Dust hiatus.
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 630	Posted - 2015.04.19 13:02:00 - [6] - Quote Good job CCP for not being able to hire a graphics design guy who can do several things in one day. The State will always survive.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2609	Posted - 2015.04.19 13:03:00 - [7] - Quote fish sticks24 wrote: Why put new content in the game if they can even make it well and pretty sure they could use money to develop it and get a 3d modeller.....I'm not being ungrateful I'm just one person who actual knows what it mean to develop a game , not reskinning everything READ THE THIRD AND FOURTH POINTS. THEY ARE CAPPING OUT ON MEMORY. And no, I sincerely doubt you have any clue about what it means to develop a game, but hey, I'll ask just in case: How many games / apps have you personally developed? How many gaming projects / teams / companies have you been employed with? What's your knowledge as a programmer? How good are you with the hardware? Have you ever worked in a capacity similar to the cpm? I'm going to guess that the answers to a lot of these won't reflect kindly on you, so please shut up with the moronic "I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO *DEVELOP* A GAME", because its self-aggrandizing crap where you try to create a moral high-ground for yourself to stand on while spouting petty nonsense. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
VAHZZ Arrary of Clusters 1444	Posted - 2015.04.19 13:05:00 - [8] - Quote fish sticks24 wrote: I'm not being ungrateful I'm just one person who actual knows what it mean to develop a game , not reskinning everything Make a better game, if you know better than CCP. Use that knowledge of what it means to develop a game, and actually develop one. Do it. Go on. Make a MMO like this on the PS3. You fail to realize, that the ps3 is limited to hell. We can't add in anymore **** because we have hardly anymore memory. CCP has hit a wall and need to move the game. I will follow it wherever it goes. But please, do research before you post. And stop being ungrateful. If you expect the worst, you'll never be disappointed.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 315	Posted - 2015.04.19 13:58:00 - [9] - Quote fish sticks24 wrote: l I'm just one person who actual knows what it mean to develop a game , not reskinning everything A fitting reaction Dust 514: Unlimited Scrub Works
Mobius Wyvern Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 6112	Posted - 2015.04.19 14:38:00 - [10] - Quote I don't know why I'm posting here, since you don't seem to have any interest in listening to any of us, but the way the game was previously designed leaves it hitting the limits of the PS3's very limited RAM and VRAM, which are each only 256 MB. This new method they are deploying of re-skinning assets instead of putting in an entirely new asset that is effectively the same model but with a different paintjob should allow for more FPS and POSSIBLY reduce some of the memory consumption which would allow the actual vehicles and turrets to come in at a later date. tl;dr stop ****posting and look before you post I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha

fish sticks24 Eternal Beings 7	Posted - 2015.04.19 14:45:00 - [11] - Quote Okay I was wrong , I didn't know all of the issues...you guys win -fishing for blood-
Middas Betancore 526	Posted - 2015.04.19 14:49:00 - [12] - Quote Am I missing something, did we getz skins today? Onnamon 4-State Protectorate Logistics Support- Caldari State Peacekeepers
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6084	Posted - 2015.04.19 14:59:00 - [13] - Quote Placeholders are actually something that the players pushed for since closed beta. The devs finally gave in. Some details can be ignored
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6084	Posted - 2015.04.19 15:02:00 - [14] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: Am I missing something, did we getz skins today? CCP announced a while back that they're adding minmatar and amarr vehicles (and turrets, I believe, but that may just be a reskin and nothing else) However, minmatar will just be reskinned caldari while amarr is just reskinned gallente. Caldari HAVs always looked more minmatar anyway. Some details can be ignored
Mobius Wyvern Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 6113	Posted - 2015.04.19 15:03:00 - [15] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Placeholders are actually something that the players pushed for since closed beta. The devs finally gave in. Another good point to make sure everyone sees. This is not CCP being lazy. WE pushed for this for months. This is emblematic of CCP Rattati listening to us more than anyone else we've dealt with so far. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha
Indianna Pwns Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 93	Posted - 2015.04.19 16:36:00 - [16] - Quote Who exactly is 'WE THE COMMUNITY'? I certainly don't remember ever begging for placeholders. My issue is that once placeholders are put in new 3D models will never arrive. The devs will no longer see completing the racial lineup as a priority and these 'placeholders' will be all we ever get. The devs shouldn't add things in the game unless they can be proud to so so and we as players should accept nothing less. The vocal minority who shout loudest on these forums will do well to remember that the are only part of this community and not THE community. I feel that CCP need to be reminded of this when listening to the vocal few on these forums.
Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 381	Posted - 2015.04.19 16:46:00 - [17] - Quote You can really tell who on these forums have spent their formative years being asked what they want for dinner every night. Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
DiablosMajora 101	Posted - 2015.04.19 17:40:00 - [18] - Quote Bremen van Equis wrote: You can really tell who on these forums have spent their formative years being asked what they want for dinner every night. I asked myself that very question last night, and so I made chicken piccata with a lemon cream sauce Prepare your angus
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8161	Posted - 2015.04.19 17:44:00 - [19] - Quote DiablosMajora wrote: Bremen van Equis wrote: You can really tell who on these forums have spent their formative years being asked what they want for dinner every night. I asked myself that very question last night, and so I made chicken piccata with a lemon cream sauce What would you like for dinner tonight? Trick question. you will eat the fking ramen and like it. AV
Mobius Wyvern Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 6123	Posted - 2015.04.19 17:47:00 - [20] - Quote Indianna Pwns wrote: Who exactly is 'WE THE COMMUNITY'? I certainly don't remember ever begging for placeholders. My issue is that once placeholders are put in new 3D models will never arrive. The devs will no longer see completing the racial lineup as a priority and these 'placeholders' will be all we ever get. The devs shouldn't add things in the game unless they can be proud to so so and we as players should accept nothing less. The vocal minority who shout loudest on these forums will do well to remember that the are only part of this community and not THE community. I feel that CCP need to be reminded of this when listening to the vocal few on these forums. Okay, let me stop you right there. The point of putting in Placeholders is so that they can hold a place. The "vocal minority" is not working against what everyone else wants here. In case you didn't notice, the thread where CCP Rattati posted the images of the re-skins was almost entirely filled with positive responses. If you're going to claim that every single one of those people was somehow part of this "vocal minority" you speak of than I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion. These re-skinned vehicles will allow for Minmatar and Amarr players to have something aimed at their racial playstyle to use up until the actual models for them and new weapons for them can be introduced. Having the placeholders put into the game is absolutely better than having nothing at all for anyone who plays Minmatar or Amarr up until the models can finally be put into the game. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha

Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4371	Posted - 2015.04.19 17:49:00 - [21] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Indianna Pwns wrote: Who exactly is 'WE THE COMMUNITY'? I certainly don't remember ever begging for placeholders. My issue is that once placeholders are put in new 3D models will never arrive. The devs will no longer see completing the racial lineup as a priority and these 'placeholders' will be all we ever get. The devs shouldn't add things in the game unless they can be proud to so so and we as players should accept nothing less. The vocal minority who shout loudest on these forums will do well to remember that the are only part of this community and not THE community. I feel that CCP need to be reminded of this when listening to the vocal few on these forums. Okay, let me stop you right there. The point of putting in Placeholders is so that they can hold a place. The "vocal minority" is not working against what everyone else wants here. In case you didn't notice, the thread where CCP Rattati posted the images of the re-skins was almost entirely filled with positive responses. If you're going to claim that every single one of those people was somehow part of this "vocal minority" you speak of than I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion. These re-skinned vehicles will allow for Minmatar and Amarr players to have something aimed at their racial playstyle to use up until the actual models for them and new weapons for them can be introduced. Having the placeholders put into the game is absolutely better than having nothing at all for anyone who plays Minmatar or Amarr up until the models can finally be put into the game. These are the moments when I need to get my "Dev Haxs" skill leveled up higher so I can like a post more than once. CPM 1 mail me your feedback and remember to have fun!
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6086	Posted - 2015.04.19 17:54:00 - [22] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Placeholders are actually something that the players pushed for since closed beta. The devs finally gave in. Another good point to make sure everyone sees. This is not CCP being lazy. WE pushed for this for months. This is emblematic of CCP Rattati listening to us more than anyone else we've dealt with so far. Months? We pushed it for YEARS Some details can be ignored
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19334	Posted - 2015.04.19 18:00:00 - [23] - Quote Just because you disagree with it doesn't suddenly make you the 'entire' community. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1136	Posted - 2015.04.19 18:07:00 - [24] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: fish sticks24 wrote: Good job ccp for being so lazy that you can't even design a tank for this game. Bit behind the times on it aren't you? 1) Racial tanks desperately needed to be added for amarr & min 2) We asked for placeholder tanks that accurately represent the stats of each race 3) I'm not aware of anyone that's actually doing 3d modeling on the dust 514 team 4) Even if they had a 3d modeller at the moment, they're facing memory issues on the hardware (aka, your ps3 melts when trying to run the game). 5) Quit being an ungrateful snot that something is actually being developed and worked on just because it doesn't have something shiny attached to it. XD Memor issues bshates again. Yup NONSENCE How is possible (for example) borderlands can generate bazilions of combination in weaponry? How battlefield can have destroyable engine? OPTIMIZATION nothing else. All bullshates about memory are just excuses. And everyone who think otherwise should take look how its work. "Sebiestor Hetzer*"
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1368	Posted - 2015.04.19 18:10:00 - [25] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: fish sticks24 wrote: Good job ccp for being so lazy that you can't even design a tank for this game. Bit behind the times on it aren't you? 1) Racial tanks desperately needed to be added for amarr & min 2) We asked for placeholder tanks that accurately represent the stats of each race 3) I'm not aware of anyone that's actually doing 3d modeling on the dust 514 team 4) Even if they had a 3d modeller at the moment, they're facing memory issues on the hardware (aka, your ps3 melts when trying to run the game). 5) Quit being an ungrateful snot that something is actually being developed and worked on just because it doesn't have something shiny attached to it. XD Memor issues bshates again. Yup NONSENCE How is possible (for example) borderlands can generate bazilions of combination in weaponry? How battlefield can have destroyable engine? OPTIMIZATION nothing else. All bullshates about memory are just excuses. And everyone who think otherwise should take look how its work. That and we dont have enough rescources I know* you wan't it *(a+ç -á° -ƒ+ä-£ -í°)a+ç*
Xmar Handfelid FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 51	Posted - 2015.04.19 18:20:00 - [26] - Quote Here somthing that should happen Just make actul race tanks that are diffrent in design instead of just lazy reskins CCP should start taking more chances because they are playing TO SAFE my take longer but in the end it will greatly pay. *Jimmies status*- Unrustled
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19335	Posted - 2015.04.19 19:26:00 - [27] - Quote Also note that we likely don't have the tank art assests finished nor the time to rig up their physics if we make them too unique which would barely change the accusation of a 'reskin' one can easily argue the two tanks we have now are 'reskins' of each other. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
DiablosMajora 103	Posted - 2015.04.19 20:07:00 - [28] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: DiablosMajora wrote: Bremen van Equis wrote: You can really tell who on these forums have spent their formative years being asked what they want for dinner every night. I asked myself that very question last night, and so I made chicken piccata with a lemon cream sauce What would you like for dinner tonight? Trick question. you will eat the fking ramen and like it. Nah brah, making some semi-sweet chocolate chip banana pot muffins :3~ Prepare your angus
Mobius Wyvern Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 6128	Posted - 2015.04.19 20:08:00 - [29] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Also note that we likely don't have the tank art assests finished nor the time to rig up their physics if we make them too unique which would barely change the accusation of a 'reskin' one can easily argue the two tanks we have now are 'reskins' of each other. I'm not entirely sure this post is helpful. Seems more like a "fanning the flames" kind of thing. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha
Bremen van Equis Incorruptibles 384	Posted - 2015.04.19 20:09:00 - [30] - Quote DiablosMajora wrote: Nah brah, making some semi-sweet chocolate chip banana pot muffins :3~ Just a spoonful of medicine helps that sugar go down... Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop



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