DUST Search - Dice May Be The Key

xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:

Cypher Nil wrote:

Knightshade Belladonna wrote:

No. CCP has held the reigns this long, got it this far, and have made and fixed many mistakes. They are still learning, and working with something that didn't start off great, and no denying it has not come far. It might not be the best game , but it's it's(wtf) own game , and ccp is it's own company. They have grown big, and tbh I applaud them for leaping into this as they did and still holding on, and eventually turning profits. This game might not go far, it may die here on the ps3... however ccp will go on, and they will carry with them the experiences and lessons of Dust , and hopefully come out with a new masterpiece that can't be matched down the road.

It sucks dust didn't live up to it's expectations , but it still did it's own thing , and I like it. Especially with the connection to Eve online

you sound like everyone else on the forums me included. hoping that ccp will eventually get it right. they have proven themselves incapable of getting this game together, they cancelled World of Darkness which is the only other game where they stepped out of their comfort zone. they have a record of development cycles where the fully developed game is seen 3-4 years after its been released. I'm not really looking forward to what they can create next. just my opinion tho

It's not that they are "incompetent". Imo it's the actual lack of resources that didn't make Dust the game it deserves to be (and that would probably never be)-

I'd be surprised if there are more than 10 guys working on Dust.

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Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 229	Posted - 2015.04.17 23:43:00 - [1] - Quote Today a gameplay trailer was released for star wars battlefront, the long awaited sequel to the old battlefront series. It Looks AMAZING. just simply AMAZING. This game runs a massive scaled combat zone with ground troops, vehicles and aircraft much like the other battlefield titles made by Dice but they have stayed true to the original games implementing 3rd person controls, tactical sci fi equipment and jedi classes unlocked by a player on a team after proving themselves a master of battle (earning a load of points for kills in the currently played game). Now this got me really hyped for this game but also got me thinking. If dice is capable of taking on such a large scale project for a sci fi franchise outside their normal work couldn't they do it again for say... o I dunno. maybe CCP and Dust? I'm not trying to be insulting to the devs currently working on dust but over the last 2 years I think I can safely state that CCP has proven themselves "less capable then most" when it comes to developing a first person sci fi shooter based in the EvE universe. Could they not hire Dice to create whatever sequel they have in mind to replace dust at the end of its life cycle? This game on the dice engine could be amazing and it could be released for console and PC solving the running debate thats occurred since last years fanfest. Please watch the full trailer before commenting and remember this is all in engine rendering at 60 frames per second. The visual Gameplay in this game reminds me of the dust 514 non-gameplay trailer from 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwWLns7-xN8 n++pâçGòÉS+Ç 25+ Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
The Dark Cloud The Rainbow Effect 4459	Posted - 2015.04.17 23:48:00 - [2] - Quote Ya do know that these guys made BF3+4? Its no surprise that they are good at making large scaled fights with all kinds of vehicles. I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization 1659	Posted - 2015.04.17 23:48:00 - [3] - Quote My god, the nth post about the new trailer. It doesn't even show you anything. 'LR4-Trading' Protester
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 229	Posted - 2015.04.17 23:54:00 - [4] - Quote The Dark Cloud wrote: Ya do know that these guys made BF3+4? Its no surprise that they are good at making large scaled fights with all kinds of vehicles. I know, thats the point. they would be the perfect developer for a dust sequal n++pâçGòÉS+Ç 25+ Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1133	Posted - 2015.04.17 23:54:00 - [5] - Quote No. CCP has held the reigns this long, got it this far, and have made and fixed many mistakes. They are still learning, and working with something that didn't start off great, and no denying it has not come far. It might not be the best game , but it's it's(wtf) own game , and ccp is it's own company. They have grown big, and tbh I applaud them for leaping into this as they did and still holding on, and eventually turning profits. This game might not go far, it may die here on the ps3... however ccp will go on, and they will carry with them the experiences and lessons of Dust , and hopefully come out with a new masterpiece that can't be matched down the road. It sucks dust didn't live up to it's expectations , but it still did it's own thing , and I like it. Especially with the connection to Eve online
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 229	Posted - 2015.04.17 23:55:00 - [6] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: My god, the nth post about the new trailer. It doesn't even show you anything. emm except the gameplay? the entire trailer is rendered in the engine. what your looking at is what the game will actually look like. n++pâçGòÉS+Ç 25+ Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 229	Posted - 2015.04.17 23:59:00 - [7] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: No. CCP has held the reigns this long, got it this far, and have made and fixed many mistakes. They are still learning, and working with something that didn't start off great, and no denying it has not come far. It might not be the best game , but it's it's(wtf) own game , and ccp is it's own company. They have grown big, and tbh I applaud them for leaping into this as they did and still holding on, and eventually turning profits. This game might not go far, it may die here on the ps3... however ccp will go on, and they will carry with them the experiences and lessons of Dust , and hopefully come out with a new masterpiece that can't be matched down the road. It sucks dust didn't live up to it's expectations , but it still did it's own thing , and I like it. Especially with the connection to Eve online you sound like everyone else on the forums me included. hoping that ccp will eventually get it right. they have proven themselves incapable of getting this game together, they cancelled World of Darkness which is the only other game where they stepped out of their comfort zone. they have a record of development cycles where the fully developed game is seen 3-4 years after its been released. I'm not really looking forward to what they can create next. just my opinion tho n++pâçGòÉS+Ç 25+ Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7114	Posted - 2015.04.18 00:18:00 - [8] - Quote I want my Resistance back, damn it!
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Pwnycorn 3097	Posted - 2015.04.18 00:34:00 - [9] - Quote Cypher Nil wrote: Knightshade Belladonna wrote: No. CCP has held the reigns this long, got it this far, and have made and fixed many mistakes. They are still learning, and working with something that didn't start off great, and no denying it has not come far. It might not be the best game , but it's it's(wtf) own game , and ccp is it's own company. They have grown big, and tbh I applaud them for leaping into this as they did and still holding on, and eventually turning profits. This game might not go far, it may die here on the ps3... however ccp will go on, and they will carry with them the experiences and lessons of Dust , and hopefully come out with a new masterpiece that can't be matched down the road. It sucks dust didn't live up to it's expectations , but it still did it's own thing , and I like it. Especially with the connection to Eve online you sound like everyone else on the forums me included. hoping that ccp will eventually get it right. they have proven themselves incapable of getting this game together, they cancelled World of Darkness which is the only other game where they stepped out of their comfort zone. they have a record of development cycles where the fully developed game is seen 3-4 years after its been released. I'm not really looking forward to what they can create next. just my opinion tho It's not that they are "incompetent". Imo it's the actual lack of resources that didn't make Dust the game it deserves to be (and that would probably never be)- I'd be surprised if there are more than 10 guys working on Dust. Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1646	Posted - 2015.04.18 00:51:00 - [10] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Cypher Nil wrote: Knightshade Belladonna wrote: No. CCP has held the reigns this long, got it this far, and have made and fixed many mistakes. They are still learning, and working with something that didn't start off great, and no denying it has not come far. It might not be the best game , but it's it's(wtf) own game , and ccp is it's own company. They have grown big, and tbh I applaud them for leaping into this as they did and still holding on, and eventually turning profits. This game might not go far, it may die here on the ps3... however ccp will go on, and they will carry with them the experiences and lessons of Dust , and hopefully come out with a new masterpiece that can't be matched down the road. It sucks dust didn't live up to it's expectations , but it still did it's own thing , and I like it. Especially with the connection to Eve online you sound like everyone else on the forums me included. hoping that ccp will eventually get it right. they have proven themselves incapable of getting this game together, they cancelled World of Darkness which is the only other game where they stepped out of their comfort zone. they have a record of development cycles where the fully developed game is seen 3-4 years after its been released. I'm not really looking forward to what they can create next. just my opinion tho It's not that they are "incompetent". Imo it's the actual lack of resources that didn't make Dust the game it deserves to be (and that would probably never be)- I'd be surprised if there are more than 10 guys working on Dust. So ask yourself why. Why only 10? Because DUST was poorly implemented. Because bad management. Bad management no maka da money. No money for development. CCP sits in it's own poo. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."

Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2279	Posted - 2015.04.18 02:24:00 - [11] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: It's not that they are "incompetent". Imo it's the actual lack of resources that didn't make Dust the game it deserves to be (and that would probably never be)- I'd be surprised if there are more than 10 guys working on Dust. The original guys were very incompetent, some even got fired because of it. Right now though it is the lack of resources and manpower holding development back. People that defend exploiting glitches should be permanently banned. Rated [TV-MA]
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 2702	Posted - 2015.04.18 04:43:00 - [12] - Quote large scale? I thought it was 20v20? The ButtPirates Now Accepting Applications. XD TheYoutube
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 103	Posted - 2015.04.18 05:10:00 - [13] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: My god, the nth post about the new trailer. It doesn't even show you anything. It wasnt even gameplay xD Lol Basically a cinematic xD I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8888	Posted - 2015.04.18 05:10:00 - [14] - Quote Cypher Nil wrote: Knightshade Belladonna wrote: No. CCP has held the reigns this long, got it this far, and have made and fixed many mistakes. They are still learning, and working with something that didn't start off great, and no denying it has not come far. It might not be the best game , but it's it's(wtf) own game , and ccp is it's own company. They have grown big, and tbh I applaud them for leaping into this as they did and still holding on, and eventually turning profits. This game might not go far, it may die here on the ps3... however ccp will go on, and they will carry with them the experiences and lessons of Dust , and hopefully come out with a new masterpiece that can't be matched down the road. It sucks dust didn't live up to it's expectations , but it still did it's own thing , and I like it. Especially with the connection to Eve online you sound like everyone else on the forums me included. hoping that ccp will eventually get it right. they have proven themselves incapable of getting this game together, they cancelled World of Darkness which is the only other game where they stepped out of their comfort zone. they have a record of development cycles where the fully developed game is seen 3-4 years after its been released. I'm not really looking forward to what they can create next. just my opinion tho I'm with ^ these guys. I like Dust. @ OP - Thanks for sharing that trailer. Looks great :-) Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11511	Posted - 2015.04.18 05:17:00 - [15] - Quote Isn't DICE owned by EA? Yeah, no. I don't want anything EA-related involved. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 7682	Posted - 2015.04.18 05:21:00 - [16] - Quote the dust trailer was batter... Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you. Get Dust ISK Here
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game RUST415 527	Posted - 2015.04.18 07:40:00 - [17] - Quote Cypher Nil wrote: The Dark Cloud wrote: Ya do know that these guys made BF3+4? Its no surprise that they are good at making large scaled fights with all kinds of vehicles. I know, thats the point. they would be the perfect developer for a dust sequal You call me? Fix the game before trying to add anything else. (Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
VAHZZ 1425	Posted - 2015.04.18 08:00:00 - [18] - Quote Hell no, I don't want anything EA related. They are worse than the dog that makes fudgies on my lawn. If you expect the worst, you'll never be disappointed.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game RUST415 527	Posted - 2015.04.18 08:06:00 - [19] - Quote "OP" wrote: Could they not hire Dice to create whatever sequel they have in mind to replace dust at the end of its life cycle? If anything it won't be CCP who will hire Dice^^ Fix the game before trying to add anything else. (Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5915	Posted - 2015.04.18 08:40:00 - [20] - Quote Just because a scripted scene is rendered in the engine does not mean the game will actually play like that. What you were seeing was an extremely optimized scripted scene which will probably be of higher quality than actual gameplay under normal circumstances. Hell early Dust videos were rendered in the Dust engine but look way better than the actual game does. And even so, pretty graphics have no bearing on how good the actual gameplay is. Don't fall for the hype train. Will the game be good? Possibly. But you saw nothing but a hype trailer, so don't draw any conclusions about the game at all based off of it, other than it has pretty nice graphics. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net

gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 1169	Posted - 2015.04.18 08:46:00 - [21] - Quote Hype train for Battlefront is dead. No substantial story-mode, no space battles, railed at-ats, pre-announced DLC, 8 maps, 4 planets., and no clone wars maps. There's a reason why EA is the worst company in the world. The reason you feel that your ideas are knocked down so easily is because you're too narcissistic to consider what you say could be wrong, or what others say will not be in accordance with your opinion. Forums are meant to provoke thought, it's not a circlejerk where idiots tell each other how right they are. GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
Taskanoss What The Pho 57	Posted - 2015.04.18 09:24:00 - [22] - Quote Cypher Nil wrote: Today a gameplay trailer was released for star wars battlefront, the long awaited sequel to the old battlefront series. EDIT: You know what, I'm tired of posting idea's on this forum only to be shot down or criticised by a community that has turned how bad the game they support is into a running joke. A community isn't suppose to have a love/hate relationship with there game. I'm just done with dust, I'll go try out planetside 2, they don't have a story but at least their game works and the devs know what they're aiming for. and yea I expect to see posts of cya and why should we care but only 2,000 - 3,000 people place this game at a time, can it afford to lose any more Bro, that is why I (possibly we) play Dust. The maddeningly OUTRAGEOUS LOVE/VILE HATRED relationship makes the experience. I played COD for years and it was a "meh experience" at best. Derpa hard and derpa fast.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game RUST415 527	Posted - 2015.04.18 09:26:00 - [23] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Hype train for Battlefront is dead. No substantial story-mode, no space battles, railed at-ats, pre-announced DLC, 8 maps, 4 planets., and no clone wars maps. There's a reason why EA is the worst company in the world. The reason you feel that your ideas are knocked down so easily is because you're too narcissistic to consider what you say could be wrong, or what others say will not be in accordance with your opinion. Forums are meant to provoke thought, it's not a circlejerk where idiots tell each other how right they are. EA is far from being the worst company in the world, it's one of the wealthiest in the videogame sector which represent a LOT of money. It just has a DLC policy, which sucks, but everybody's still buying cause EA knows how to advertise, and make things look better than what they actually are. Fix the game before trying to add anything else. (Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
Taskanoss What The Pho 57	Posted - 2015.04.18 09:32:00 - [24] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Hype train for Battlefront is dead. No substantial story-mode, no space battles, railed at-ats, pre-announced DLC, 8 maps, 4 planets., and no clone wars maps. There's a reason why EA is the worst company in the world. The reason you feel that your ideas are knocked down so easily is because you're too narcissistic to consider what you say could be wrong, or what others say will not be in accordance with your opinion. Forums are meant to provoke thought, it's not a circlejerk where idiots tell each other how right they are. EA is far from being the worst company in the world, it's one of the wealthiest in the videogame sector which represent a LOT of money. It just has a DLC policy, which sucks, but everybody's still buying cause EA knows how to advertise, and make things look better than what they actually are. EA is the Michael Bay of game developers, they know how to make big explosions and get money, but lack depth. CCP is the like Christopher Nolan starting out his directing career, great ideas with a niche audience. Derpa hard and derpa fast.
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 1169	Posted - 2015.04.18 09:32:00 - [25] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: EA is far from being the worst company in the world, it's one of the wealthiest in the videogame sector which represent a LOT of money. It just has a DLC policy, which sucks, but everybody's still buying cause EA knows how to advertise, and make things look better than what they actually are. Money has nothing to do with it, when someone says x company is terrible, it doesn't mean they're financially unstable, it means they're owned by awful people that don't care about their customers. Literally Won Worst Company Awards GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 312	Posted - 2015.04.18 10:43:00 - [26] - Quote Well considering dice is owned by EA it will be full of micro-transactions. Trailer doesn't always equal to actual gameplay. A good example is battlefield 4, it looked cool and everything but for the first few months the game was full of bugs and server failures because EA actually rushed BF4 several months earlier just to hog more money. Dust is special, it's a crappy game in the perspective of a lot of people but it isn't a parasite compared to EA. "That gun is $4.99 if you want to use it so pay up! What's that? You don't have bullets? Well for an extra $1.99 you can get a mag! Order now and it will come with its own unique camo paint!" this is how EA sounds like to me Dust 514: Unlimited Scrub Works
Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3488	Posted - 2015.04.18 10:51:00 - [27] - Quote Dust 514 - Unreal Engine 3 Star Wars Battlefront - Frostbite 3 Huge fricking difference. GLHF competing with SWBF if it is even a tiny bit good. EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet". My PS3: http://imgur.com/a/5O8ok
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 336	Posted - 2015.04.18 11:31:00 - [28] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: . It might not be the best game , but it's it's(wtf) own game , and ccp is it's own company. Not tryna grammar **** but... It just grinded my gears a little bit to understand (too many it is, and i just woke up yawn) "It's its own game. CCP is its own company." Just the wrong "its" yu were using, nothing wrong w/ that. Now to the real reason why I quoted you. It IS its own game, that connects with another game BY CCP... In a weird way. In the end, without tranquility... Dust wouldn't be dust. Giving Dust "away" to non CCP gives the chance for somethings to screw up.. It also means lots of copyrighted material would change reeeeal quick. tl;dr - In the end, thats the end of dust... It'll change so much, that it wouldn't be dust. Change engines shure, change developers? No no no. The ADS tourney! Join today!
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game RUST415 528	Posted - 2015.04.18 11:47:00 - [29] - Quote Taskanoss wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Hype train for Battlefront is dead. No substantial story-mode, no space battles, railed at-ats, pre-announced DLC, 8 maps, 4 planets., and no clone wars maps. There's a reason why EA is the worst company in the world. The reason you feel that your ideas are knocked down so easily is because you're too narcissistic to consider what you say could be wrong, or what others say will not be in accordance with your opinion. Forums are meant to provoke thought, it's not a circlejerk where idiots tell each other how right they are. EA is far from being the worst company in the world, it's one of the wealthiest in the videogame sector which represent a LOT of money. It just has a DLC policy, which sucks, but everybody's still buying cause EA knows how to advertise, and make things look better than what they actually are. EA is the Michael Bay of game developers, they know how to make big explosions and get money, but lack depth. CCP is the like Christopher Nolan starting out his directing career, great ideas with a niche audience. Well not really, Christopher Nolan makes his ideas come true and realise wonderful movies. CCP does trailers about stuffs that were never (and will never be) released. Fix the game before trying to add anything else. (Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1141	Posted - 2015.04.18 11:52:00 - [30] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Taskanoss wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Hype train for Battlefront is dead. No substantial story-mode, no space battles, railed at-ats, pre-announced DLC, 8 maps, 4 planets., and no clone wars maps. There's a reason why EA is the worst company in the world. The reason you feel that your ideas are knocked down so easily is because you're too narcissistic to consider what you say could be wrong, or what others say will not be in accordance with your opinion. Forums are meant to provoke thought, it's not a circlejerk where idiots tell each other how right they are. EA is far from being the worst company in the world, it's one of the wealthiest in the videogame sector which represent a LOT of money. It just has a DLC policy, which sucks, but everybody's still buying cause EA knows how to advertise, and make things look better than what they actually are. EA is the Michael Bay of game developers, they know how to make big explosions and get money, but lack depth. CCP is the like Christopher Nolan starting out his directing career, great ideas with a niche audience. Well not really, Christopher Nolan makes his ideas come true and realise wonderful movies. CCP does trailers about stuffs that were never (and will never be) released. well , on another engine , (probably on pc too) ccp had a lot of other stuff. They have tested it, it existed , it just never made it here. Can't recall what it was they were testing on, but if it was attempted on the ps3 it would have melted them all. It even had 64 v 64 battles , that they tested and supposedly it worked



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