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CCP Rattati wrote:

Joseph Ridgeson wrote:

I find myself unable to be interested in PC. You have stated that it is "what all mercs should strive for" but I see it only as a more work intensive game mode that requires more planning, time, and ISK in order to play (IE, less fun). "Your corporation has 10 districts!" doesn't really make the individual want to do it. Allow me to paraphrase Ben 'Yahtzee' Croshaw:

(Speaking about World of Warcraft):
"I asked a raider 'why do you raid?'. They replied 'to get the best equipment.' I followed with 'what do you use the best equipment for?'. Their response: 'to raid with'."

That is kind of the same thing with PC except you don't get any of the best equipment so it is "I need the best equipment/tactics/SP/fittings to PC" but you don't get anything out of it. It only requires without giving. I understand that PC with Capsuleers being able to drop the hammer (and deliver some indiscriminate justice) is one of the unique selling points in DUST but I really have to ask why it is something that "all mercs should aspire (to do)"?

Glad to see that it is being worked on. Thanks for the update and for reaching out to the community for assistance!

A part of this revamp is finding a unique, non power creep, reward, such as but not limited to district unique customization f.ex.

Thing about raiding, and difficult things, is that the fun is in the doing, it's not for everyone, but there is meaning in it, even if others find it repetitive or boring. Some of my best gaming experiences were WoW raids, but not "just for the loot to get better loot", it's not as simple as that. I also play W40k that takes hours to plan, even more hours to paint (if you do that) , make terrain, get your stuff to a friends house, all for a battle that may be lost in the first round. It's still fun.

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Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3637	Posted - 2015.04.05 13:44:00 - [1] - Quote I find myself unable to be interested in PC. You have stated that it is "what all mercs should strive for" but I see it only as a more work intensive game mode that requires more planning, time, and ISK in order to play (IE, less fun). "Your corporation has 10 districts!" doesn't really make the individual want to do it. Allow me to paraphrase Ben 'Yahtzee' Croshaw: (Speaking about World of Warcraft): "I asked a raider 'why do you raid?'. They replied 'to get the best equipment.' I followed with 'what do you use the best equipment for?'. Their response: 'to raid with'." That is kind of the same thing with PC except you don't get any of the best equipment so it is "I need the best equipment/tactics/SP/fittings to PC" but you don't get anything out of it. It only requires without giving. I understand that PC with Capsuleers being able to drop the hammer (and deliver some indiscriminate justice) is one of the unique selling points in DUST but I really have to ask why it is something that "all mercs should aspire (to do)"? Glad to see that it is being worked on. Thanks for the update and for reaching out to the community for assistance! "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3638	Posted - 2015.04.05 14:40:00 - [2] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: I find myself unable to be interested in PC. You have stated that it is "what all mercs should strive for" but I see it only as a more work intensive game mode that requires more planning, time, and ISK in order to play (IE, less fun). "Your corporation has 10 districts!" doesn't really make the individual want to do it. Allow me to paraphrase Ben 'Yahtzee' Croshaw: (Speaking about World of Warcraft): "I asked a raider 'why do you raid?'. They replied 'to get the best equipment.' I followed with 'what do you use the best equipment for?'. Their response: 'to raid with'." That is kind of the same thing with PC except you don't get any of the best equipment so it is "I need the best equipment/tactics/SP/fittings to PC" but you don't get anything out of it. It only requires without giving. I understand that PC with Capsuleers being able to drop the hammer (and deliver some indiscriminate justice) is one of the unique selling points in DUST but I really have to ask why it is something that "all mercs should aspire (to do)"? Glad to see that it is being worked on. Thanks for the update and for reaching out to the community for assistance! A part of this revamp is finding a unique, non power creep, reward, such as but not limited to district unique customization f.ex. Thing about raiding, and difficult things, is that the fun is in the doing, it's not for everyone, but there is meaning in it, even if others find it repetitive or boring. Some of my best gaming experiences were WoW raids, but not "just for the loot to get better loot", it's not as simple as that. I also play W40k that takes hours to plan, even more hours to paint (if you do that) , make terrain, get your stuff to a friends house, all for a battle that may be lost in the first round. It's still fun. I am not certain if the same reasoning works in this game. I have done WoW raids that were difficult just to do them or even to spend times with friends. The difference is that raids are actively different than not raiding. There are boss mechanics. Even the most basic "don't stand in fire" is a change up to how most of the game is played. In DUST, I think I could get the same result out of PC with just grabbing 5 other players and trying very hard in public matches if there was another Squad of 6 doing the same thing. Basically, I feel PC needs something big to separate it from just being premade matches with friendly fire. Thanks for the reply boyo. Never liked Warhammer 40k. I always thought if I were going to put that much effort into the set up for 'rolling dice with friends', I would just DM for them. offers fist for nerd fist-bump "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"