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CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 19847	Posted - 2015.04.05 13:25:00 - [1] - Quote Dear players, the time has come to finetune the ideas mentioned in this thread Planetary Conquest Revisited. I have created a Planetary Conquest simulation spreadsheet, for us to duke out the actuals, from Clone cost, to attrition rates, to passive vs active income, activity per member, minimum size to run a single district and earning command points. I have discussed and agreed with the CPM that the next course of action is to initiate direct contact with major Corporation CEO's, both that are active in PC(how we can improve it), and those who aren't (how we can get them interested in PC). Therefore, I would like to request that all CEO's that are interested in working directly with me, send their skype contact details, player name and corporation name to [email protected]. I will arrange sessions, based on the participation and number of participants. Please, pass the message forward, and especially if you or your corporation was active in PC, and quit for whatever reason. Our current iteration, seems to be fairly robust and in-exploitable, but only rigorous discussion can verify that. I certainly hope to see some emails in my inbox tonight. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 19849	Posted - 2015.04.05 13:54:00 - [2] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: I find myself unable to be interested in PC. You have stated that it is "what all mercs should strive for" but I see it only as a more work intensive game mode that requires more planning, time, and ISK in order to play (IE, less fun). "Your corporation has 10 districts!" doesn't really make the individual want to do it. Allow me to paraphrase Ben 'Yahtzee' Croshaw: (Speaking about World of Warcraft): "I asked a raider 'why do you raid?'. They replied 'to get the best equipment.' I followed with 'what do you use the best equipment for?'. Their response: 'to raid with'." That is kind of the same thing with PC except you don't get any of the best equipment so it is "I need the best equipment/tactics/SP/fittings to PC" but you don't get anything out of it. It only requires without giving. I understand that PC with Capsuleers being able to drop the hammer (and deliver some indiscriminate justice) is one of the unique selling points in DUST but I really have to ask why it is something that "all mercs should aspire (to do)"? Glad to see that it is being worked on. Thanks for the update and for reaching out to the community for assistance! A part of this revamp is finding a unique, non power creep, reward, such as but not limited to district unique customization f.ex. Thing about raiding, and difficult things, is that the fun is in the doing, it's not for everyone, but there is meaning in it, even if others find it repetitive or boring. Some of my best gaming experiences were WoW raids, but not "just for the loot to get better loot", it's not as simple as that. I also play W40k that takes hours to plan, even more hours to paint (if you do that) , make terrain, get your stuff to a friends house, all for a battle that may be lost in the first round. It's still fun. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 19849	Posted - 2015.04.05 13:57:00 - [3] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: I think it's in a good place right now, but I'm not a CEO. Looking forward to seeing what PC can change and become. Just so long as we don't see a return to the days of nobody fighting and the big blue donut. There is an exploit that needs to be stamped out. If everyone wants to just hold hands and sing kumbaya, I still don't think I have an answer for that "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 19929	Posted - 2015.04.07 01:05:00 - [4] - Quote Luther Mandrix wrote: We need a PC Loyalty Store for buying items (weapons and dropsuits made in PC) with the sales divided up to the manufacturing Corps in PC.Real Sales for Real Player earned isk.Not that old NPC Magic money machine. Maybe we could earn LP fighting for Player Corporations to spend in the LP Store in PC. I want to do the same for Pirate Factions. That's a fundamental part of the new idea. We are calling them BMK's (Black Market Kredits), or Trade goods, and they can be traded for items in the Black Market. All names TBD. These items would likely begin with being unique skins, not powercreep items. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 19929	Posted - 2015.04.07 01:08:00 - [5] - Quote One question, and this is a crazy one. If we were to setup a system that allows a SKIN to take into account the Corporation Name. Would corporations be interested in having CCP customize, based on request, a corp skin that would be available in the marketplace, but say "This SKIN only appilies if you are in D-Uni", for example? I don't have the tech yet, but this seems fairly awesome, so I would love to get your feedback. A bit of a off-topic, but I already have 30 plus top corp emails joining the cause, so I'm happy. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 20018	Posted - 2015.04.07 23:34:00 - [6] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: We held no more than 5 districts at a time and our PC adventure lasted just over 6 months, hardly a majority of the time. I'm also very grateful too for the considerations that the PC community gave us because they wanted to help us achieve our stated goal which was to give new players a taste of PC in an as controlled manner as was possible. The limited logistical mechanics of PC made that a real headache but we had a serious crack at it. If we only had some sort of Meta lock out for training matches or the proposed Arena SI, it would've have been very different. And quite a few D-UNI alumni are now still active in PC having had a taste of it, so in that respect it worked out as well as I'd hoped. But it was a lot of very hard work.... Immortal Guides has had similar experience with PC. We have twice owned a district that we used for training, but both times ended up giving it away because we did not have a deep enough officer pool or enough student participation to handle all the logistical challenges. However, since I started the Learning Alliance several of the small member Corps have acquired districts in order to train PC teams. Having several small Corps supporting each other seems to make the logistical challenge a little more sustainable. The hope of course is that these Corps will continue to grow and develop their PC teams until they become contenders and move on to a PC Alliance. Regardless, anything that can be done to make the logistical challenge of getting into PC a little less onerous would be a good thing. As a start, if there were some districts that spawned smaller battles (8v8 or 12v12) it would make it much easier for smaller Corps to get started. send us your info to talk about your experience and how it can be better "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 20018	Posted - 2015.04.07 23:36:00 - [7] - Quote Sigberct Amni wrote: my CEO is interested but we don't really understand what's to be discussed. are you (rattati) going to share what can and can't be done development wise? the second post you linked - is that the scope of the discussion or are you accepting any ideas at all. We will share what we can, but also listen to ideas on how to make it better for everyone involved. I have spent the last day on Skype with more than a handful of the top corps in PC, hearing them out, taking notes and discussing solutions and exploits. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 20018	Posted - 2015.04.07 23:37:00 - [8] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: what if my CEO does not play dust but our corp own dust districts? Send your representative, the person who handles the PC logistics, scheduling and timers. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 20094	Posted - 2015.04.08 13:11:00 - [9] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: We held no more than 5 districts at a time and our PC adventure lasted just over 6 months, hardly a majority of the time. I'm also very grateful too for the considerations that the PC community gave us because they wanted to help us achieve our stated goal which was to give new players a taste of PC in an as controlled manner as was possible. The limited logistical mechanics of PC made that a real headache but we had a serious crack at it. If we only had some sort of Meta lock out for training matches or the proposed Arena SI, it would've have been very different. And quite a few D-UNI alumni are now still active in PC having had a taste of it, so in that respect it worked out as well as I'd hoped. But it was a lot of very hard work.... Immortal Guides has had similar experience with PC. We have twice owned a district that we used for training, but both times ended up giving it away because we did not have a deep enough officer pool or enough student participation to handle all the logistical challenges. However, since I started the Learning Alliance several of the small member Corps have acquired districts in order to train PC teams. Having several small Corps supporting each other seems to make the logistical challenge a little more sustainable. The hope of course is that these Corps will continue to grow and develop their PC teams until they become contenders and move on to a PC Alliance. Regardless, anything that can be done to make the logistical challenge of getting into PC a little less onerous would be a good thing. As a start, if there were some districts that spawned smaller battles (8v8 or 12v12) it would make it much easier for smaller Corps to get started. send us your info to talk about your experience and how it can be better I am not sure that I have the time available to participate in live Skipe conversations. I am prolific on the forums, but I do most of my posting while at work. If I was talking on Skipe about PC balance, my supervisor may suspect that it is not work relatedGÇª Seriously though TheD1CK, CEO of Dead ManGÇÖs Game, is probably the best person to have at the table talking about the experience of new Corps trying to get into PC. Dead ManGÇÖs Game is one of very few Corps that managed to train up and break into PC after all the established PC Corps were in place. He has also been heavily involved in trying to help other small Corps do the same. He would be the best person to speak to the issues faced by Corps trying to get into PC. Edit: Just to make sure I sent a copy of the Original Post to TheD1CK to encourage him to get involved. (Used EVE-Gate mail on my EVE character. You can cut and past. Wish we had EVE-Gate mail access for our DUST characters.) Well you can also send feedback to [email protected], am already linked with DMG, we are just text chatting on skype anyway "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 22	Posted - 2015.05.25 07:02:00 - [10] - Quote New update on PC here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=203526&find=unread "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"