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Posted - 2015.04.05 18:04:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I'm a fan of Total War style games.
Honestly, if we could build a game mode like that which had a more intricate ground map and rules associated with it, instead of this wheel of districts.... that'd be something worth playing.
This idea right here!!!!
Don't just give us a bland wheel, give us actual maps on the planets surface. you'd be fighting to take terrain, it would feel more real, like the way a picture from space lets you see your country and it brings the thought of home to your mind. put us IN new eden.
I'd imagine districts planned out like a game of risk, each with its own resources both strategic and monetary.
And its a pain in the ass to hold russia :D
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Posted - 2015.04.06 00:40:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote: on point 2, you will never stop people from holding lots of land through artificial player limitation. We will just use alts, and we will hate CCP for making us do that. But we will do it all the same. You'll be pissed off, we'll be pissed off. That's a lose-lose suggestion.
So your going to make alts, thats fine but how do you plan to play matches to defend all of your districks AT THE SAME TIME?? 16 players should not be able to do what 200 players can do.
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Posted - 2015.04.06 00:49:00 -
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Can we get a corp carrier the actual corp operates from??
It would me like the warbarge and offer bonuses and resources used for corp purposes only but have no system in place where it can be upgraded with real world currency, the idea being you would capture districts and unique resources gathered from terrain would be used to upgrade the carrier, the carrier would also be used to reinforce and upgrade defences on districks.
the player base would be fighting for terrain in order to upgrade their base of operation's this would in turn offer them resources to aid them in combating other corperations.
The carrier could be upgraded to fit the playstyle of the corp itself, by giving bonuses to raiding, defense, trading, offence or production depending on the corps upgrade path.
I suggest a carrier because due to the mobility of armed forces in new eden I cannot imagine corperations having a stationary base of operations
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:04:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Here's the problem with PC. The only reason to egt into PC... is to do PC. I gain no benefit of PC outside of doing even more PC. As mentioned earlier it becomes "I do raids in order to get better gear to go do more raids." What can PC give me that pubs do not?
Now we could have owning districts give bonuses in Dust, like extra damage, more health, better regen, cheaper item costs, etc. But then we widen the gulf between the haves and the have-nots. The reason sovereignty and wars work (well, somewhat) in Eve is because there is so much more to do in Eve than PVP. There's mining, ratting, industry, missioning, all kinds of activities that aren't about killing other players. So by owning systems in nullsec, I can provide an area to have miners get resources for my industry moguls, who then build ships and modules for me to go gain even more systems. All of the considerations of war, from the fighting to the logitics and supply lines, are player-controlled. Dust has no such variety. We can kill other players in pubs, kill other players in FW, or kill other players in PC. No other options for gameplay exist. No industry, no mining, no PVE content... Only PVP, PVP, PVP. So any bonus we give to districts either is OP, like a damage bonus for owning a district, separating the rich from the poor even more, or you give a bonus to clone packs or other PC logistics, which returns us to the "I raid to get gear to raid with" circle.
What we need, and honestly should have had from the beginning, is non-PVP gameplay in Dust. Clearing rogue drones, maybe some form of industry, or maybe helping Eve players gain salvage in special sites, as proposed in a thread that came out before Rattati came along. Sadly, these will likely never happen. But until we have something to do other than kill other players, any bonus that districts give will either be OP or not worth the effort.
So you want PC matches to give slighly higher SP?
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