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DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 956	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:02:00 - [1] - Quote What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? For me, it's cloaking devices. Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad or clear out a whole whole single handedly, yet today because cloaking devices (and other mechanics related to scouts) I see it often. Situation awareness used to be a thing, until CCP literally took it out of the game. There's no skill in being invisible. Cloaking devices never added anything of value to the game. It broke game balance so badly that it took months of buffs to other suit classes just to compete. If CCP would ever remove anything from Dust 514, I would want the cloaks to go away like black ops tanks did, and never come back.
Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 5885	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:04:00 - [2] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? For me, it's cloaking devices. Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad or clear out a whole whole single handedly, yet today because cloaking devices (and other mechanics related to scouts) I see it often. Situation awareness used to be a thing, until CCP literally took it out of the game. There's no skill in being invisible. Cloaking devices never added anything of value to the game. It broke game balance so badly that it took months of buffs to other suit classes just to compete. If CCP would ever remove anything from Dust 514, I would want the cloaks to go away like black ops tanks did, and never come back. Same as the cloak users complaining that the cloaks were nerfed too hard, you are swinging way too far in the opposite direction. Cloaking devices were meant to give Scout suits the ability to safely cross open terrain with no cover which they used to have issues with. People using them as GOTCHA bullshit was part of why the CPM was so insistent on not going with CCP's original concept, which would have had NO movement shimmer whatsoever. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha
Leither Yiltron Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1128	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:06:00 - [3] - Quote CCP Jian Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi Have a pony
Albyat Tyre Glitched Connection 114	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:08:00 - [4] - Quote Most of theposts in the forums. To live as one shall live, I prefer killing red dots.
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 258	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:09:00 - [5] - Quote I know it sounds iffy but... Aim assist. Gun game when flying out the window. Lower TTK... And i wasn't here for it but leaving chromosome... People always talk how that was the best feel dust had... Chrome + Ratt + ppl before rouge wedding = perfect. Sooooo! I've come to the conclusion that the wedding was the worst... It made so many people leave dust... And now people are in fear that one day we'll just get abandoned or told "this is a beta" Entering the void and becoming wind. Message for 1v1 air to air
Thor Odinson42 Negative-Feedback 6471	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:09:00 - [6] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP Jian Is this the person responsible for FF 2014?
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6116	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:11:00 - [7] - Quote 1.7 (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3234	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:16:00 - [8] - Quote Aim assist which led to TTK. Thank You Shamarskii Plasma Cannon :3 Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2906	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:16:00 - [9] - Quote The Caldari Prime and the Templar events. As I understand it, there was a massive use of resources to make those events happen at the most critical time in the game's lifecycle. If those resources had instead been spent improving the game we probably would have had a much better release, which would have meant better reviews, more players sticking around. All of this would have lead to a larger developer team and would have snowballed into a radically different future for the game. I know some people remember those events fondly, but we paid an insanely high price for them. Best PvE idea ever!
DUST Fiend 16239	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:18:00 - [10] - Quote Firing our dev team. Contests, Sales, Writing etc Fly Safe

Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6116	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:20:00 - [11] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: The Caldari Prime and the Templar events. As I understand it, there was a massive use of resources to make those events happen at the most critical time in the game's lifecycle. If those resources had instead been spent improving the game we probably would have had a much better release, which would have meant better reviews, more players sticking around. All of this would have lead to a larger developer team and would have snowballed into a radically different future for the game. I know some people remember those events fondly, but we paid an insanely high price for them. Tbh no it wouldn't, simple because Rattati, he listens, they didn't plain and simple. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Sennina Sovereign ROGUE RELICS 4	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:25:00 - [12] - Quote I think the worst thing that has happened in dust is the series of nerfs of the HMG. First off, they increase the heat build-up of the gun, making it faster to overheat the gun. Then they nerf it again by not only reducing the damage of the gun, but also reducing its effectiveness towards vehicles( I remember taking down an Incubus with my ADV HMG). This game is supposed to take place tens of thousands of years into the future, so why does the HMG feel like it came from WW2. I feel that the HMG will always get the short end of the stick when CCP decides to nerf/buff stuff. In my opinion, if some weapon is OP, then buff the other weapons in order to balance it out(Example: Nerfing the EXCREMENT out of the Breach AR 's ammo is a no-no, now to many people, it's the worst performing AR out there). I feel that if the HMG were back to its original state, it would give justice to its nickname, "Death's Machine".
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1615	Posted - 2015.04.05 05:11:00 - [13] - Quote Cloaks. Being invisible is just too much of an advantage. They aren't completely OP, just inherently bad. On the other hand, some people like them and if they keep people playing then they can't be the worst thing to happen to Dust. Maybe 1.7 tanks. Because, that's why.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2641	Posted - 2015.04.05 05:27:00 - [14] - Quote The poor core fps mechanics, buggy implementation and half-assed development standards that got Dust dismissed by the gaming press and most of the players who tried it. But that was only a symptom - the cause was something broken in Reykjavik that made CCP unable to see past it's own kittenshit. PSN: RationalSpark
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9533	Posted - 2015.04.05 05:33:00 - [15] - Quote The only correct answer is deciding to call the incomplete product that was Uprising 1.0 the "official release" and allowing all the make gaming media to review the game as though it was a finished product. "Dust 514 may be free, but it's not worth a minute of your time." All the players trying it out, getting the wrong impression, and never trying it again. Just a terrible way to "launch"a game. Should of kept the beta title. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1223	Posted - 2015.04.05 05:42:00 - [16] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? For me, it's cloaking devices. Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad or clear out a whole whole single handedly, yet today because cloaking devices (and other mechanics related to scouts) I see it often. Situation awareness used to be a thing, until CCP literally took it out of the game. There's no skill in being invisible. Cloaking devices never added anything of value to the game. It broke game balance so badly that it took months of buffs to other suit classes just to compete. If CCP would ever remove anything from Dust 514, I would want the cloaks to go away like black ops tanks did, and never come back. What? You can see the people.... if you're aware of your surroundings. Using the radar does not qualify as "situational awareness". http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19112	Posted - 2015.04.05 06:42:00 - [17] - Quote Me? CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
Leither Yiltron molon labe. General Tso's Alliance 1128	Posted - 2015.04.05 06:47:00 - [18] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP Jian Is this the person responsible for FF 2014? Say rather "Uprising 1.0". He was the executive producer at the time, yes. Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi Have a pony
GRIM GEAR Nos Nothi 470	Posted - 2015.04.05 06:53:00 - [19] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? For me, it's cloaking devices. Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad or clear out a whole whole single handedly, yet today because cloaking devices (and other mechanics related to scouts) I see it often. Situation awareness used to be a thing, until CCP literally took it out of the game. There's no skill in being invisible. Cloaking devices never added anything of value to the game. It broke game balance so badly that it took months of buffs to other suit classes just to compete. If CCP would ever remove anything from Dust 514, I would want the cloaks to go away like black ops tanks did, and never come back. Dust being on the ps3 in the first place, get rekt yolo swag Cup of tea anyone? I came here to mingle can you hear that jingle that would be me lingle.
The Eristic Dust 90210 853	Posted - 2015.04.05 07:29:00 - [20] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP Jian I've been waiting to use this for ages. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.

TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1061	Posted - 2015.04.05 08:26:00 - [21] - Quote The single worst thing... Players leaving. We need more people! Start advertising this game ffs! Found my favorite DJ - ATB
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 957	Posted - 2015.04.05 08:32:00 - [22] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? For me, it's cloaking devices. Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad or clear out a whole whole single handedly, yet today because cloaking devices (and other mechanics related to scouts) I see it often. Situation awareness used to be a thing, until CCP literally took it out of the game. There's no skill in being invisible. Cloaking devices never added anything of value to the game. It broke game balance so badly that it took months of buffs to other suit classes just to compete. If CCP would ever remove anything from Dust 514, I would want the cloaks to go away like black ops tanks did, and never come back. Same as the cloak users complaining that the cloaks were nerfed too hard, you are swinging way too far in the opposite direction. Cloaking devices were meant to give Scout suits the ability to safely cross open terrain with no cover which they used to have issues with. People using them as GOTCHA bullshit was part of why the CPM was so insistent on not going with CCP's original concept, which would have had NO movement shimmer whatsoever. thats fine. but gal scout? thats not fine. youre either invisble to the eye, or invisible to scans... not both. gal scouts goes hunting more than scouting. nothing like looking all around you in a open field, and checking your radar... and still getting shotgun in the back
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 957	Posted - 2015.04.05 08:35:00 - [23] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: The Caldari Prime and the Templar events. As I understand it, there was a massive use of resources to make those events happen at the most critical time in the game's lifecycle. If those resources had instead been spent improving the game we probably would have had a much better release, which would have meant better reviews, more players sticking around. All of this would have lead to a larger developer team and would have snowballed into a radically different future for the game. I know some people remember those events fondly, but we paid an insanely high price for them. whats crazy is that i didnt get into either of those events. so for me, yea they were a huge waste
KingBabar Negative-Feedback. 2833	Posted - 2015.04.05 08:35:00 - [24] - Quote PC lag. I had the joy of going 2-12 yeterday, and yes the 2 measily kills I had was nades, my gun simply didn't work... Spkr4theDead wrote: Says the guy that was quitting the game because CCP were nerfing fused locus grenades.
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 959	Posted - 2015.04.05 08:47:00 - [25] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? For me, it's cloaking devices. Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad or clear out a whole whole single handedly, yet today because cloaking devices (and other mechanics related to scouts) I see it often. Situation awareness used to be a thing, until CCP literally took it out of the game. There's no skill in being invisible. Cloaking devices never added anything of value to the game. It broke game balance so badly that it took months of buffs to other suit classes just to compete. If CCP would ever remove anything from Dust 514, I would want the cloaks to go away like black ops tanks did, and never come back. What? You can see the people.... if you're aware of your surroundings. Using the radar does not qualify as "situational awareness". i use both. if im "lucky" ill catch a scout sneaking up on me if im in the open on a hill. he usually would instantly stand still, at which point i can barely see him. it was harder when they had passive scan while cloaked that had the little arrow that told them which direction you were facing. cmon man, how many crutches did scouts need lol? imagine if they had the passives while cloaked and directional arrows allow with their superman jumps? what part of any of that sounds remotely balanced with anything else in the game? there no justifying anything the scouts had up til now. the least they could do is nerf your movemt and sprint speed while cloak is activated. i mean the cloak is for moving unseen right? why do they also need to sprint, and jump over buildings while cloaked? blah blah blah... im ranting. sorry
Starlight Burner ROGUE RELICS 196	Posted - 2015.04.05 08:47:00 - [26] - Quote I'd like to see all Lag maps removed. CCP Rattati, stop buffing things based on use! Rogue Relics is my home away from home. Thank you CCP for DUST 514!
Joseph Ridgeson warravens 3636	Posted - 2015.04.05 09:48:00 - [27] - Quote Rouge Wedding, though it really is cheating as it is not a single thing but rather a symptom of the game itself. For the symptoms: CCP knew they bit off more than they could chew, they were over-hyping things too much and not delivering what they were promising. FanFest 2014 is shorthand for just how CCP failed to deliver on what they had hoped to do. Even if you think the game is decent, which I do, you cannot say that the game has been a success based on what CCP originally wanted to do. With the delivery, it shows that CCP has been terrible with giving information to the player base; the months of silence after the announcement compounds this point further. For the single thing from FanFest: CCP got on stage and announced "but the only way to realize that vision (...) is to go on PC." Regardless of ANYTHING that CCP has done after this, more development or just walking back from that, doesn't matter. They officially announced "we cannot make DUST what it was supposed to be." In short, they effectively announced "we failed." Anyone that learns about DUST now can just see that CCP announced this 'failure' and have absolutely no reason to get into the game. Whether it is coincidence or causation, the weekly average of players dropped from ~2,900 to around 2,200 (24% drop) as it is now. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 417	Posted - 2015.04.05 09:52:00 - [28] - Quote Jump modules are by far the worst. This isn't quake. This is Dust. Let's stop trying to mash a bunch of FPSS together and find the identity you used to have. Or if you want to be quake, then just remove eWar altogether as it is not needed now CPMs should stop acting like they have power and remember their true position. Scapegoats for CCP
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5597	Posted - 2015.04.05 10:01:00 - [29] - Quote Shamarskii Simon wrote: I know it sounds iffy but... Aim assist. Gun game went flying out the window. Lower TTK... And i wasn't here for it but leaving chromosome... People always talk how that was the best feel dust had... Chrome + Ratt + ppl before rouge wedding = perfect. Sooooo! I've come to the conclusion that the wedding was the worst... It made so many people leave dust... And now people are in fear that one day we'll just get abandoned or told "this is a beta" You really have no idea what you're talking about with aim assist, sorry. You're clearly just going off of what other people have said in a vain effort to establish your own opinion where you have none. Usually banned for being too awesome.
V1RONXSS X-SENSE Security 46	Posted - 2015.04.05 10:14:00 - [30] - Quote Never noticed any changes if switched AA "ON" , except swarmlaunchers. The "Chiki Briki v Damki" Starter Pack.

KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1119	Posted - 2015.04.05 10:42:00 - [31] - Quote Aim assist is the worst thing to happen to this game. BAN ADVANCED GEAR FROM PUBS \| Mass Driver Advocate
Banjo Robertson Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 508	Posted - 2015.04.05 12:38:00 - [32] - Quote No PVE, Fanfest 2014, Launching on the PS3 within the timeframe the PS4 was being launched, ineffecient memory use. Tieing the game directly to the EVE online servers. I have lots of other ideas too as to why this hasnt become more successful, probably the lack of in-game information about weapon range, damage types and their modifiers against shield and armor, grounding the skill progression too much in EVE instead of grounding it based off of solid FPS progression and adding some EVE flavor. Lack of matchmaker at launch, lack of tier locked modes at launch and conversely lack of risk vs reward, because risk is the only thing changing in the game right now depending on the suit you use, but reward is almost always the same. Also pretty much all the changes Rattatai made not being in the game to begin with hurt the game. I'm not sure if CCP looked to hire anyone who had FPS experience to lead the development of dust from the start, but they should have if they didnt.
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 961	Posted - 2015.04.05 13:08:00 - [33] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: No PVE, Fanfest 2014, Launching on the PS3 within the timeframe the PS4 was being launched, ineffecient memory use. Tieing the game directly to the EVE online servers. I have lots of other ideas too as to why this hasnt become more successful, probably the lack of in-game information about weapon range, damage types and their modifiers against shield and armor, grounding the skill progression too much in EVE instead of grounding it based off of solid FPS progression and adding some EVE flavor. Lack of matchmaker at launch, lack of tier locked modes at launch and conversely lack of risk vs reward, because risk is the only thing changing in the game right now depending on the suit you use, but reward is almost always the same. Also pretty much all the changes Rattatai made not being in the game to begin with hurt the game. I'm not sure if CCP looked to hire anyone who had FPS experience to lead the development of dust from the start, but they should have if they didnt. at this point, with as much SP floating around out there as we have now. the lack of any PVE mode will turn newcomers away. they cant compete, and if they cant compete what else is there for them to do? theyll simply quit since theyre unable do anything else. PC is off limits. FW is still broken. and all pubs at this point are just waiting rooms for the pc matches. theres nowhere for noobs to go and learn the game and the academy is a laughable excuse for a training mode no pve = fail for any mmo anything, especially one tied to eve what happened to the drones?
PADDEHATPIGEN BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 138	Posted - 2015.04.05 13:22:00 - [34] - Quote Dust is a PS3 game and not for pc. Getting stuck on hills, stairs and other grafics. Hit detection and rendering. Scotty ohh Scotty ohh scotty. A lot of dumb nerfs of deferent weapons. Cloaks and flying mercs playing the invisible man and death from above. ISK payout has always been way to small, players loose isk if they fight in the gear they are trained to use. Missing racial weapons for a long time, some are still missing. The sometimes endless waiting to deploy for battle. Extreme uneven battles. Joining a battle at the very end of it, even more after waiting 5-10 Min. To join. (I really hate that) That's the ones that just came in to mind right now I'm sure there is more if I think about it.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3665	Posted - 2015.04.05 15:10:00 - [35] - Quote Framerate/hit detection, particularly in PC.
Draxus Prime T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 4480	Posted - 2015.04.05 15:14:00 - [36] - Quote Cloaks are so scouts can cross open terrain without getting insta gibbled I like it but it changed my old stalker play mentality ALOT "Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner." - Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Scout
XxWarlordxX97 BurgezzE.T.F 4416	Posted - 2015.04.05 15:25:00 - [37] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? For me, it's cloaking devices. Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad or clear out a whole whole single handedly, yet today because cloaking devices (and other mechanics related to scouts) I see it often. Situation awareness used to be a thing, until CCP literally took it out of the game. There's no skill in being invisible. Cloaking devices never added anything of value to the game. It broke game balance so badly that it took months of buffs to other suit classes just to compete. If CCP would ever remove anything from Dust 514, I would want the cloaks to go away like black ops tanks did, and never come back. Uprising and RE's , Lets go back to chrome I don't rage,I get even Close beta Pro heavy
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8559	Posted - 2015.04.05 15:30:00 - [38] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. Back in Beta ... ... there were insubstantial SP gaps between players and squads ... there were no PC rich ... there were very few protostompers ... there were dramatically lower HP levels across the board ... there were 2HK shotguns and 1HK breach shotguns with 5x today's range ... there was a huge speed gap between Scouts and non-Scouts ... there were serious hit detection and bullet weaving issues DeathwindRising wrote: NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad. In Chromosome, I'd zigzag my speedtanked Scout right up to you and your squad, and I'd put 2 you down before hit detection caught up to me. It was OP. Which is why Scouts were kneecapped in Uprising and a borderline-extinct masochistic niche for the year which followed. DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? CCP's failure to quickly address weapon/role imbalance in early Uprising. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1900	Posted - 2015.04.05 15:34:00 - [39] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP Jian Idk who was worse, him or CCP BLAM! Reading these forums will drive a man to drink. ...don't see how that's bad i guess
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9460	Posted - 2015.04.05 15:38:00 - [40] - Quote Brandon Laurino. Can't remember his CCP name. Was the dude who went up on stage at Fanfest 2013 and was like, "MTACs! Weapons! Vehicles! Titan insertion! Drones! All coming to you SoonNotTM!" Yeah. That guy set in motion an expectation that would never and could never be matched. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*

Leither Yiltron Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1129	Posted - 2015.04.05 15:39:00 - [41] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP Jian Idk who was worse, him or CCP BLAM! Jian was probably responsible for hiring Blam. Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi Have a pony
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 55	Posted - 2015.04.05 15:51:00 - [42] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Cloaks. Being invisible is just too much of an advantage. They aren't completely OP, just inherently bad. On the other hand, some people like them and if they keep people playing then they can't be the worst thing to happen to Dust. Maybe 1.7 tanks. they aren't invisible and all you have to do is pay attention to your cross-airs or to the shimmer
Indianna Pwns Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 80	Posted - 2015.04.05 16:03:00 - [43] - Quote Shamarskii Simon wrote: I know it sounds iffy but... Aim assist. Gun game went flying out the window. Lower TTK... And i wasn't here for it but leaving chromosome... People always talk how that was the best feel dust had... Chrome + Ratt + ppl before rouge wedding = perfect. Sooooo! I've come to the conclusion that the wedding was the worst... It made so many people leave dust... And now people are in fear that one day we'll just get abandoned or told "this is a beta" Chromosome was good but not as great as people make it out to be, I think nostalgia is a big thing here. Chromosome had a version of aim assist as well, it was just a bit rubbish. The aiming on the DS3 was even worse than it is now. But at that point the game was fresh and new and had people excited for where the game could go.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19116	Posted - 2015.04.05 17:27:00 - [44] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Brandon Laurino. Can't remember his CCP name. Was the dude who went up on stage at Fanfest 2013 and was like, "MTACs! Weapons! Vehicles! Titan insertion! Drones! All coming to you SoonNotTM!" Yeah. That guy set in motion an expectation that would never and could never be matched. CCP Jian CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
JJ'S Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 66	Posted - 2015.04.05 17:38:00 - [45] - Quote Aim assist. Completely unbalanced the entire game... creates bullshit death situations experienced by every player everyday.Never fixed the issue that players complained about.... The Hit detection issues ever since the Uprising build launched. They have spent 2 years balancing the game around Aim assist. While chasing away a huge portion of their active population. Next would be the Rouge Wedding... Whatever CCP was smoking.. That made them think it was a good idea to go up to a Key note speech for a game they have... That has had hype built around it for 6 months solid. Just after launching a major content patch in DUST with racial parity and Cloaking... And then get up on stage and say **** THIS GAME, WE ARE BUILDING A NEW GAME ON PC..... THE PS3 SUX!!!! They have to share what CCP Rouge was smoking... It is obviously the good stuff... Because I don't think you could of made a worse move... Specially from a Executive Producer that said barely anything to the community when he got hired... Kept making us wait for fanfest to hear from him.... Then he basically put his two middle fingers in the air and said FRACK YOU DUST 514. Insult the entire DUST community... The entire console community.. Sony execs.. And have a key note speech about DUST 514 where you didn't talk about DUST 514 at all.... Is still blows my mind thinking about it.
JJ'S Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 66	Posted - 2015.04.05 17:44:00 - [46] - Quote Indianna Pwns wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: I know it sounds iffy but... Aim assist. Gun game went flying out the window. Lower TTK... And i wasn't here for it but leaving chromosome... People always talk how that was the best feel dust had... Chrome + Ratt + ppl before rouge wedding = perfect. Sooooo! I've come to the conclusion that the wedding was the worst... It made so many people leave dust... And now people are in fear that one day we'll just get abandoned or told "this is a beta" Chromosome was good but not as great as people make it out to be, I think nostalgia is a big thing here. Chromosome had a version of aim assist as well, it was just a bit rubbish. The aiming on the DS3 was even worse than it is now. But at that point the game was fresh and new and had people excited for where the game could go. This is absolute bullshit. The people who come at Chromosome with the "Rose colored glasses" argument are full of ****. Go onto Youtube. AND WATCH.... The difference between the gameplay in Chromosome and the Gameplay of today? IS NIGHT AND DAY... The quality of fights and engagements and intensity offered in the Chromosome build makes this DUST 514 look like a CoD knock off. Sure they might be some pretty colored player skins now? But everything else largely has gone backwards... From balance to gameplay, to Frame rate to Hit detection to Server/client Updating to proxy server latency.. The game has got fluff at the expense of core mechanics. People who talk about rose colored glasses are often the people who remember the launch of Uprising.. Not Chromosome.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1207	Posted - 2015.04.05 17:47:00 - [47] - Quote Grass and shrubs. /Faceplam
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 346	Posted - 2015.04.05 17:49:00 - [48] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP Jian Is this the person responsible for FF 2014? Is the person who told us pve and drones would be in the game in 2013 of something stupid like that. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 265	Posted - 2015.04.05 17:59:00 - [49] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: I know it sounds iffy but... Aim assist. Gun game went flying out the window. Lower TTK... And i wasn't here for it but leaving chromosome... People always talk how that was the best feel dust had... Chrome + Ratt + ppl before rouge wedding = perfect. Sooooo! I've come to the conclusion that the wedding was the worst... It made so many people leave dust... And now people are in fear that one day we'll just get abandoned or told "this is a beta" You really have no idea what you're talking about with aim assist, sorry. You're clearly just going off of what other people have said in a vain effort to establish your own opinion where you have none. I've made it clear i didn't know about chromosome, i even said i wasn't here for it... I also said the post sounds iffy too... I also said i came to the conclusion of The Wedding... I was here for that at least. And i do know... LR w/ aim assist is so much easier to use than LR w/o aim assist for example... More misses because YOU aren't as accurate as a computer. More misses = less shots hitting = less damage = longer TTK. i've experienced it first hand because I turned OFF aim assist and realize just how much harder aiming was. Entering the void and becoming wind. Message for 1v1 air to air
Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 366	Posted - 2015.04.05 18:36:00 - [50] - Quote Scotty

LOOKMOM NOHANDS 456	Posted - 2015.04.05 18:56:00 - [51] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? Scouts with combat rifles who magically take zero damage even tho their shields flare on every shot.
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 965	Posted - 2015.04.06 00:01:00 - [52] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP Jian Idk who was worse, him or CCP BLAM! Jian was probably responsible for hiring Blam. Oh god I hated CCP BLAM! He ruined vehicles
DarthJT5 Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 382	Posted - 2015.04.06 00:20:00 - [53] - Quote 1.7 was the WORST time for tankers.... Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta. Veteran Python Pilot for 1 year. The awnser is always XT missiles....
bathtubist TRUE SAVAGES Learning Alliance 80	Posted - 2015.04.06 00:42:00 - [54] - Quote Buffing of Re s
Indianna Pwns Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 85	Posted - 2015.04.06 00:43:00 - [55] - Quote JJ'S wrote: Indianna Pwns wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: I know it sounds iffy but... Aim assist. Gun game went flying out the window. Lower TTK... And i wasn't here for it but leaving chromosome... People always talk how that was the best feel dust had... Chrome + Ratt + ppl before rouge wedding = perfect. Sooooo! I've come to the conclusion that the wedding was the worst... It made so many people leave dust... And now people are in fear that one day we'll just get abandoned or told "this is a beta" Chromosome was good but not as great as people make it out to be, I think nostalgia is a big thing here. Chromosome had a version of aim assist as well, it was just a bit rubbish. The aiming on the DS3 was even worse than it is now. But at that point the game was fresh and new and had people excited for where the game could go. This is absolute bullshit. The people who come at Chromosome with the "Rose colored glasses" argument are full of ****. Go onto Youtube. AND WATCH.... The difference between the gameplay in Chromosome and the Gameplay of today? IS NIGHT AND DAY... The quality of fights and engagements and intensity offered in the Chromosome build makes this DUST 514 look like a CoD knock off. Sure they might be some pretty colored player skins now? But everything else largely has gone backwards... From balance to gameplay, to Frame rate to Hit detection to Server/client Updating to proxy server latency.. The game has got fluff at the expense of core mechanics. People who talk about rose colored glasses are often the people who remember the launch of Uprising.. Not Chromosome. OK bro, no need for the hostility don't your neckbeard in a twist! Nowhere did I say Chromosome was bad, in fact I agree with you that in many ways it felt better. However it's undeniable that there where issues with the build that people seem to have forgotten. Like I said when you have a nostalgic view on something you tend to remember the good things not the bad.
general drake55 Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2015.04.06 01:46:00 - [56] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? For me, it's cloaking devices. Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad or clear out a whole whole single handedly, yet today because cloaking devices (and other mechanics related to scouts) I see it often. Situation awareness used to be a thing, until CCP literally took it out of the game. There's no skill in being invisible. Cloaking devices never added anything of value to the game. It broke game balance so badly that it took months of buffs to other suit classes just to compete. If CCP would ever remove anything from Dust 514, I would want the cloaks to go away like black ops tanks did, and never come back. trolls,and cheaters,that's the main problem with playstion games,Microsoft bans cheaters,playstion does not,because each server for a particular game is hosted and owned by the company that makes that game,they just have to give their servers access to the pan,so its outside the jurisdiction of pan to ban players for cheating,at least that's my opinion anyway. fight for freedom and what's right,only you have the power to stop the madness.
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 234	Posted - 2015.04.06 03:21:00 - [57] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? For me, it's cloaking devices. Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad or clear out a whole whole single handedly, yet today because cloaking devices (and other mechanics related to scouts) I see it often. Situation awareness used to be a thing, until CCP literally took it out of the game. There's no skill in being invisible. Cloaking devices never added anything of value to the game. It broke game balance so badly that it took months of buffs to other suit classes just to compete. If CCP would ever remove anything from Dust 514, I would want the cloaks to go away like black ops tanks did, and never come back. Same as the cloak users complaining that the cloaks were nerfed too hard, you are swinging way too far in the opposite direction. Cloaking devices were meant to give Scout suits the ability to safely cross open terrain with no cover which they used to have issues with. People using them as GOTCHA bullshit was part of why the CPM was so insistent on not going with CCP's original concept, which would have had NO movement shimmer whatsoever. Its still pretty good, and is pretty well used for ambushing. Just hide, cloak, wait for the target to pass by, pull out you gun, and you can still kill them before they can react to the cloak deactivation noise. Gallente-Fu Grand Master Gallente Federation Patriot
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11439	Posted - 2015.04.06 03:27:00 - [58] - Quote Oh dear god, I don't know where to begin. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11439	Posted - 2015.04.06 03:29:00 - [59] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Brandon Laurino. Can't remember his CCP name. Was the dude who went up on stage at Fanfest 2013 and was like, "MTACs! Weapons! Vehicles! Titan insertion! Drones! All coming to you SoonNotTM!" Yeah. That guy set in motion an expectation that would never and could never be matched. Clearly you never heard of Reggie Fils-Aime. He's the one who innovated the hype train. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Minion Max Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 35	Posted - 2015.04.06 04:22:00 - [60] - Quote Every Hotfix, Patch and Update over the last 2 years. Now it is to the point of why bother having different Levels on suits and Guns. Throw a cloak or shotgun on a starter fit and mow down Proto heavys. Heat buildup in 3,2,1. Hit % on the other side building or invisible walls. Not being able to deploy what you carry due to bandwidth, deleted my Logi due to this. I did like taking out a tank with a Flaylock with help from a Bolt pistol, thanks Hotfix Echo. Solo Sniper and No Taxes, Semper Fi. Cpl, 87-95

SOGZ PANDA WarRavens 78	Posted - 2015.04.06 11:34:00 - [61] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? For me, it's cloaking devices. Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad or clear out a whole whole single handedly, yet today because cloaking devices (and other mechanics related to scouts) I see it often. Situation awareness used to be a thing, until CCP literally took it out of the game. There's no skill in being invisible. Cloaking devices never added anything of value to the game. It broke game balance so badly that it took months of buffs to other suit classes just to compete. If CCP would ever remove anything from Dust 514, I would want the cloaks to go away like black ops tanks did, and never come back. I've never really had any problems with dust. The cloaks were cool and added some variety; BUT what they did wrong. Was they didn't balance the game when the cloaks were introduced. The exact same issue with tanks back in beta, 90% of the player base was brand spanking new so all we had were MLT and STD AV to take on PRO tanks. So really the forum whingers won and got tanks hella nerfed at the same time as us beta guys started catching up to get PRO AV, whilst the tankers only had STD variants, so there you have your imbalance. The same issue is in cloaks vs scans. Only ONE suit could scan the cloaked+damped scouts at the time. That scout had a HORRIBLE buggy hitbox that has now been graduated to the min assault suit. But the scans were nerfed into the ground when the cloak was introduced. Therefore every suit bar ONE always got snuck up on while trying to protect or attack a point regardless of how many scanners you used to try and create 'situational awareness'. Which is where everyone's frustration over cloaked scouts has stemmed from. NOW cloaks are nerfed into the ground and guess what, scans are OP again because a cloak is too slow to activate to utilise in an attacking momentum and doesn't provide any benefit to any suit BUT ONE. SO TL:DR The worst thing for me in dust was CCP never finding the balanced medium for their changes. Making one thing way too OP for 3-4months while we bare with the burden hoping the next update will nerf it "Why should we make a story about you?" "Cause I'm so f*ing good!"
IVIaster LUKE 785	Posted - 2015.04.06 11:36:00 - [62] - Quote The Red Wedding. Rush...Rush for my Yayo!
Spaceman-Rob Third Degree Burns. 787	Posted - 2015.04.06 12:05:00 - [63] - Quote Cloaks and active scans for all on your team to see.
Yeeeuuuupppp 1001	Posted - 2015.04.06 12:16:00 - [64] - Quote This "new and greatly improved" bullspit matchmaking is the worst thing since clacks and invincible madrugars *Sheeba Sheeba* PSN: GMANCASH "I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 989	Posted - 2015.04.06 12:27:00 - [65] - Quote Blue Donut / Passive Isk combined with Fanfest '14 A year later, Dust still hasn't recovered. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Sparten 269 Horizons' Edge 100	Posted - 2015.04.06 12:55:00 - [66] - Quote This is more involving dust, but it's MAG players leaving too tansfer over to dust for me. Man I miss that great game.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5627	Posted - 2015.04.06 13:44:00 - [67] - Quote KA24DERT wrote: Aim assist is the worst thing to happen to this game. The game has always had it, except during Uprising 1.0-1.5 in which every competitive player fell back to using explosives or otherwise non-projectile oriented weaponry as a crutch. So claiming that its the worst thing to happen to Dust is pretty silly. Usually banned for being too awesome.
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1377	Posted - 2015.04.06 13:58:00 - [68] - Quote Uprising 1.0 and the removal of Skirmish 1.0 have both been huge hits to the games longevity. Uprising 1.0 for obvious reasons. And Skirmish 1.0 because I feel that you should feel invested in battles, that was the pull that each battle felt like it was more than just a fight. Skirmish 1.0 gave that feeling; you -knew- if you were attacking an installation or defending it, and it -felt- like an attack or defense to take or keep that installation for your contractor. Nowadays, the words attacker and defender are all but completely useless. You just start outside of whatever facility and fight in it. And I think that that's the difference, we went from fighting -over ownership- of the installations, to just fighting -in- them. O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 970	Posted - 2015.04.06 14:39:00 - [69] - Quote SOGZ PANDA wrote: DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? For me, it's cloaking devices. Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad or clear out a whole whole single handedly, yet today because cloaking devices (and other mechanics related to scouts) I see it often. Situation awareness used to be a thing, until CCP literally took it out of the game. There's no skill in being invisible. Cloaking devices never added anything of value to the game. It broke game balance so badly that it took months of buffs to other suit classes just to compete. If CCP would ever remove anything from Dust 514, I would want the cloaks to go away like black ops tanks did, and never come back. I've never really had any problems with dust. The cloaks were cool and added some variety; BUT what they did wrong. Was they didn't balance the game when the cloaks were introduced. The exact same issue with tanks back in beta, 90% of the player base was brand spanking new so all we had were MLT and STD AV to take on PRO tanks. So really the forum whingers won and got tanks hella nerfed at the same time as us beta guys started catching up to get PRO AV, whilst the tankers only had STD variants, so there you have your imbalance. The same issue is in cloaks vs scans. Only ONE suit could scan the cloaked+damped scouts at the time. That scout had a HORRIBLE buggy hitbox that has now been graduated to the min assault suit. But the scans were nerfed into the ground when the cloak was introduced. Therefore every suit bar ONE always got snuck up on while trying to protect or attack a point regardless of how many scanners you used to try and create 'situational awareness'. Which is where everyone's frustration over cloaked scouts has stemmed from. NOW cloaks are nerfed into the ground and guess what, scans are OP again because a cloak is too slow to activate to utilise in an attacking momentum and doesn't provide any benefit to any suit BUT ONE. SO TL:DR The worst thing for me in dust was CCP never finding the balanced medium for their changes. Making one thing way too OP for 3-4months while we bare with the burden hoping the next update will nerf it it still doesnt make sense that there one suit that can move around completely uncontested. and its only counter is one other suit using a mostly useless piece of equipment. CCP add suedo scan fall off but nerfs scan range into the ground so that the net gain is less than what had started with. "oh we have to nerf scan range so nova knifers can still nife people in the back." they gave concession to the most niche and non viable thing related to combat. i rank it up there with hull tanking in eve online in terms of usefulness. yet the whole scan mechanic suffers for it. and balance? god. theres no weapon/ suit balance between races. which suit is best with Scr? which suit is best with CR? how about AR? any suit works. how about RR? any suit works. hell the gal assault suit uses the RR better than the cal assault, because it can deal more damage, tank more damage, get remote reps, rep through damage, and deal damage at the same range as the cal assault. so thanks CCP, the cal assault is out classed by other racial suits using the cal assaults own weapon. and we've been over it for month with Rattati but he does nothing. PS. a kick reduction bonus to the RR isnt as good as an optimal range bonus
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 3	Posted - 2015.04.06 15:40:00 - [70] - Quote The damn Sniper Reticle, FIX IT!!!!

SOGZ PANDA WarRavens 80	Posted - 2015.04.07 00:26:00 - [71] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: SOGZ PANDA wrote: DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? For me, it's cloaking devices. Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad or clear out a whole whole single handedly, yet today because cloaking devices (and other mechanics related to scouts) I see it often. Situation awareness used to be a thing, until CCP literally took it out of the game. There's no skill in being invisible. Cloaking devices never added anything of value to the game. It broke game balance so badly that it took months of buffs to other suit classes just to compete. If CCP would ever remove anything from Dust 514, I would want the cloaks to go away like black ops tanks did, and never come back. I've never really had any problems with dust. The cloaks were cool and added some variety; BUT what they did wrong. Was they didn't balance the game when the cloaks were introduced. The exact same issue with tanks back in beta, 90% of the player base was brand spanking new so all we had were MLT and STD AV to take on PRO tanks. So really the forum whingers won and got tanks hella nerfed at the same time as us beta guys started catching up to get PRO AV, whilst the tankers only had STD variants, so there you have your imbalance. The same issue is in cloaks vs scans. Only ONE suit could scan the cloaked+damped scouts at the time. That scout had a HORRIBLE buggy hitbox that has now been graduated to the min assault suit. But the scans were nerfed into the ground when the cloak was introduced. Therefore every suit bar ONE always got snuck up on while trying to protect or attack a point regardless of how many scanners you used to try and create 'situational awareness'. Which is where everyone's frustration over cloaked scouts has stemmed from. NOW cloaks are nerfed into the ground and guess what, scans are OP again because a cloak is too slow to activate to utilise in an attacking momentum and doesn't provide any benefit to any suit BUT ONE. SO TL:DR The worst thing for me in dust was CCP never finding the balanced medium for their changes. Making one thing way too OP for 3-4months while we bare with the burden hoping the next update will nerf it it still doesnt make sense that there one suit that can move around completely uncontested. and its only counter is one other suit using a mostly useless piece of equipment. CCP add suedo scan fall off but nerfs scan range into the ground so that the net gain is less than what had started with. "oh we have to nerf scan range so nova knifers can still nife people in the back." they gave concession to the most niche and non viable thing related to combat. i rank it up there with hull tanking in eve online in terms of usefulness. yet the whole scan mechanic suffers for it. and balance? god. theres no weapon/ suit balance between races. which suit is best with Scr? which suit is best with CR? how about AR? any suit works. how about RR? any suit works. hell the gal assault suit uses the RR better than the cal assault, because it can deal more damage, tank more damage, get remote reps, rep through damage, and deal damage at the same range as the cal assault. so thanks CCP, the cal assault is out classed by other racial suits using the cal assaults own weapon. and we've been over it for month with Rattati but he does nothing. PS. a kick reduction bonus to the RR isnt as good as an optimal range bonus Completely agree with everything you said man. Thus my point really that there has been no real balance in this game. It's just action and reaction to people's cries to get good. There have been some good tweaks like the cal logi being the god suit of 1.0 to 1.4 due to it's slot layout and cpu/pg. BUT that didn't mean they needed to nerf it into non existence. Now noone uses cal logi and every other logi was buffed AFTER the cal logi was nerfed, which makes no sense at all. It's this issue with them nerfing something then buffing something else that is completely ass backwards. Like you opinion with nova knifers. What's the point in completely changing a game mechanic like passive scanning and scan range just so a niche group can knife people in the back for ***** n giggles in pub matches. I would rather they add in a melee lunge to simulate a fully charged nova knife then have all suits have no passive scan range until someone is right in your face. About the RR's on other suits.............. Yeah not gonna touch that, it's still a sore subject for me that a cal tech weapon can be used better on any other suit apart from a cal assault. Hell even a scrambler can be used on a min assault and beat an amarr assault. "Why should we make a story about you?" "Cause I'm so f*ing good!"
Russel Mendoza 7th air cav 32	Posted - 2015.04.07 05:41:00 - [72] - Quote The ps3 coming to an end. I love playing this game, those things I read in this topic, never bothered me. Black screen, getting stuck, falling in the abyss, scotty getting drunk, and a lot more. I get past the shortcomings, and hoped the game last more. But the ps4 is out and the end of ps3 is near. I cant follow legion, dont have a pc. It really makes me sad. I'm the biggest Dustard in the universe!!! Summoning technique "Gorgon no jutsu" Vehicle request accepted.


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