DUST Search - What is the single worst thing to happen to Dust?

JJ'S wrote:

Indianna Pwns wrote:

Shamarskii Simon wrote:

I know it sounds iffy but...

Aim assist.
Gun game went flying out the window. Lower TTK...

And i wasn't here for it but leaving chromosome... People always talk how that was the best feel dust had... Chrome + Ratt + ppl before rouge wedding = perfect.

Sooooo! I've come to the conclusion that the wedding was the worst... It made so many people leave dust... And now people are in fear that one day we'll just get abandoned or told "this is a beta"

Chromosome was good but not as great as people make it out to be, I think nostalgia is a big thing here.

Chromosome had a version of aim assist as well, it was just a bit rubbish. The aiming on the DS3 was even worse than it is now.

But at that point the game was fresh and new and had people excited for where the game could go.

This is absolute bullshit.

The people who come at Chromosome with the "Rose colored glasses" argument are full of ****.

Go onto Youtube. AND WATCH.... The difference between the gameplay in Chromosome and the Gameplay of today? IS NIGHT AND DAY...

The quality of fights and engagements and intensity offered in the Chromosome build makes this DUST 514 look like a CoD knock off.

Sure they might be some pretty colored player skins now? But everything else largely has gone backwards... From balance to gameplay, to Frame rate to Hit detection to Server/client Updating to proxy server latency..

The game has got fluff at the expense of core mechanics.

People who talk about rose colored glasses are often the people who remember the launch of Uprising.. Not Chromosome.

Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1119	Posted - 2015.04.05 10:42:00 - [31] - Quote Aim assist is the worst thing to happen to this game. BAN ADVANCED GEAR FROM PUBS \| Mass Driver Advocate
Banjo Robertson Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 508	Posted - 2015.04.05 12:38:00 - [32] - Quote No PVE, Fanfest 2014, Launching on the PS3 within the timeframe the PS4 was being launched, ineffecient memory use. Tieing the game directly to the EVE online servers. I have lots of other ideas too as to why this hasnt become more successful, probably the lack of in-game information about weapon range, damage types and their modifiers against shield and armor, grounding the skill progression too much in EVE instead of grounding it based off of solid FPS progression and adding some EVE flavor. Lack of matchmaker at launch, lack of tier locked modes at launch and conversely lack of risk vs reward, because risk is the only thing changing in the game right now depending on the suit you use, but reward is almost always the same. Also pretty much all the changes Rattatai made not being in the game to begin with hurt the game. I'm not sure if CCP looked to hire anyone who had FPS experience to lead the development of dust from the start, but they should have if they didnt.
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 961	Posted - 2015.04.05 13:08:00 - [33] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: No PVE, Fanfest 2014, Launching on the PS3 within the timeframe the PS4 was being launched, ineffecient memory use. Tieing the game directly to the EVE online servers. I have lots of other ideas too as to why this hasnt become more successful, probably the lack of in-game information about weapon range, damage types and their modifiers against shield and armor, grounding the skill progression too much in EVE instead of grounding it based off of solid FPS progression and adding some EVE flavor. Lack of matchmaker at launch, lack of tier locked modes at launch and conversely lack of risk vs reward, because risk is the only thing changing in the game right now depending on the suit you use, but reward is almost always the same. Also pretty much all the changes Rattatai made not being in the game to begin with hurt the game. I'm not sure if CCP looked to hire anyone who had FPS experience to lead the development of dust from the start, but they should have if they didnt. at this point, with as much SP floating around out there as we have now. the lack of any PVE mode will turn newcomers away. they cant compete, and if they cant compete what else is there for them to do? theyll simply quit since theyre unable do anything else. PC is off limits. FW is still broken. and all pubs at this point are just waiting rooms for the pc matches. theres nowhere for noobs to go and learn the game and the academy is a laughable excuse for a training mode no pve = fail for any mmo anything, especially one tied to eve what happened to the drones?
PADDEHATPIGEN BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 138	Posted - 2015.04.05 13:22:00 - [34] - Quote Dust is a PS3 game and not for pc. Getting stuck on hills, stairs and other grafics. Hit detection and rendering. Scotty ohh Scotty ohh scotty. A lot of dumb nerfs of deferent weapons. Cloaks and flying mercs playing the invisible man and death from above. ISK payout has always been way to small, players loose isk if they fight in the gear they are trained to use. Missing racial weapons for a long time, some are still missing. The sometimes endless waiting to deploy for battle. Extreme uneven battles. Joining a battle at the very end of it, even more after waiting 5-10 Min. To join. (I really hate that) That's the ones that just came in to mind right now I'm sure there is more if I think about it.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3665	Posted - 2015.04.05 15:10:00 - [35] - Quote Framerate/hit detection, particularly in PC.
Draxus Prime T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 4480	Posted - 2015.04.05 15:14:00 - [36] - Quote Cloaks are so scouts can cross open terrain without getting insta gibbled I like it but it changed my old stalker play mentality ALOT "Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner." - Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Scout
XxWarlordxX97 BurgezzE.T.F 4416	Posted - 2015.04.05 15:25:00 - [37] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? For me, it's cloaking devices. Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad or clear out a whole whole single handedly, yet today because cloaking devices (and other mechanics related to scouts) I see it often. Situation awareness used to be a thing, until CCP literally took it out of the game. There's no skill in being invisible. Cloaking devices never added anything of value to the game. It broke game balance so badly that it took months of buffs to other suit classes just to compete. If CCP would ever remove anything from Dust 514, I would want the cloaks to go away like black ops tanks did, and never come back. Uprising and RE's , Lets go back to chrome I don't rage,I get even Close beta Pro heavy
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8559	Posted - 2015.04.05 15:30:00 - [38] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. Back in Beta ... ... there were insubstantial SP gaps between players and squads ... there were no PC rich ... there were very few protostompers ... there were dramatically lower HP levels across the board ... there were 2HK shotguns and 1HK breach shotguns with 5x today's range ... there was a huge speed gap between Scouts and non-Scouts ... there were serious hit detection and bullet weaving issues DeathwindRising wrote: NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad. In Chromosome, I'd zigzag my speedtanked Scout right up to you and your squad, and I'd put 2 you down before hit detection caught up to me. It was OP. Which is why Scouts were kneecapped in Uprising and a borderline-extinct masochistic niche for the year which followed. DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? CCP's failure to quickly address weapon/role imbalance in early Uprising. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1900	Posted - 2015.04.05 15:34:00 - [39] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP Jian Idk who was worse, him or CCP BLAM! Reading these forums will drive a man to drink. ...don't see how that's bad i guess
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9460	Posted - 2015.04.05 15:38:00 - [40] - Quote Brandon Laurino. Can't remember his CCP name. Was the dude who went up on stage at Fanfest 2013 and was like, "MTACs! Weapons! Vehicles! Titan insertion! Drones! All coming to you SoonNotTM!" Yeah. That guy set in motion an expectation that would never and could never be matched. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*

Leither Yiltron Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1129	Posted - 2015.04.05 15:39:00 - [41] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP Jian Idk who was worse, him or CCP BLAM! Jian was probably responsible for hiring Blam. Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi Have a pony
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 55	Posted - 2015.04.05 15:51:00 - [42] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Cloaks. Being invisible is just too much of an advantage. They aren't completely OP, just inherently bad. On the other hand, some people like them and if they keep people playing then they can't be the worst thing to happen to Dust. Maybe 1.7 tanks. they aren't invisible and all you have to do is pay attention to your cross-airs or to the shimmer
Indianna Pwns Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 80	Posted - 2015.04.05 16:03:00 - [43] - Quote Shamarskii Simon wrote: I know it sounds iffy but... Aim assist. Gun game went flying out the window. Lower TTK... And i wasn't here for it but leaving chromosome... People always talk how that was the best feel dust had... Chrome + Ratt + ppl before rouge wedding = perfect. Sooooo! I've come to the conclusion that the wedding was the worst... It made so many people leave dust... And now people are in fear that one day we'll just get abandoned or told "this is a beta" Chromosome was good but not as great as people make it out to be, I think nostalgia is a big thing here. Chromosome had a version of aim assist as well, it was just a bit rubbish. The aiming on the DS3 was even worse than it is now. But at that point the game was fresh and new and had people excited for where the game could go.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19116	Posted - 2015.04.05 17:27:00 - [44] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Brandon Laurino. Can't remember his CCP name. Was the dude who went up on stage at Fanfest 2013 and was like, "MTACs! Weapons! Vehicles! Titan insertion! Drones! All coming to you SoonNotTM!" Yeah. That guy set in motion an expectation that would never and could never be matched. CCP Jian CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
JJ'S Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 66	Posted - 2015.04.05 17:38:00 - [45] - Quote Aim assist. Completely unbalanced the entire game... creates bullshit death situations experienced by every player everyday.Never fixed the issue that players complained about.... The Hit detection issues ever since the Uprising build launched. They have spent 2 years balancing the game around Aim assist. While chasing away a huge portion of their active population. Next would be the Rouge Wedding... Whatever CCP was smoking.. That made them think it was a good idea to go up to a Key note speech for a game they have... That has had hype built around it for 6 months solid. Just after launching a major content patch in DUST with racial parity and Cloaking... And then get up on stage and say **** THIS GAME, WE ARE BUILDING A NEW GAME ON PC..... THE PS3 SUX!!!! They have to share what CCP Rouge was smoking... It is obviously the good stuff... Because I don't think you could of made a worse move... Specially from a Executive Producer that said barely anything to the community when he got hired... Kept making us wait for fanfest to hear from him.... Then he basically put his two middle fingers in the air and said FRACK YOU DUST 514. Insult the entire DUST community... The entire console community.. Sony execs.. And have a key note speech about DUST 514 where you didn't talk about DUST 514 at all.... Is still blows my mind thinking about it.
JJ'S Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 66	Posted - 2015.04.05 17:44:00 - [46] - Quote Indianna Pwns wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: I know it sounds iffy but... Aim assist. Gun game went flying out the window. Lower TTK... And i wasn't here for it but leaving chromosome... People always talk how that was the best feel dust had... Chrome + Ratt + ppl before rouge wedding = perfect. Sooooo! I've come to the conclusion that the wedding was the worst... It made so many people leave dust... And now people are in fear that one day we'll just get abandoned or told "this is a beta" Chromosome was good but not as great as people make it out to be, I think nostalgia is a big thing here. Chromosome had a version of aim assist as well, it was just a bit rubbish. The aiming on the DS3 was even worse than it is now. But at that point the game was fresh and new and had people excited for where the game could go. This is absolute bullshit. The people who come at Chromosome with the "Rose colored glasses" argument are full of ****. Go onto Youtube. AND WATCH.... The difference between the gameplay in Chromosome and the Gameplay of today? IS NIGHT AND DAY... The quality of fights and engagements and intensity offered in the Chromosome build makes this DUST 514 look like a CoD knock off. Sure they might be some pretty colored player skins now? But everything else largely has gone backwards... From balance to gameplay, to Frame rate to Hit detection to Server/client Updating to proxy server latency.. The game has got fluff at the expense of core mechanics. People who talk about rose colored glasses are often the people who remember the launch of Uprising.. Not Chromosome.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1207	Posted - 2015.04.05 17:47:00 - [47] - Quote Grass and shrubs. /Faceplam
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 346	Posted - 2015.04.05 17:49:00 - [48] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP Jian Is this the person responsible for FF 2014? Is the person who told us pve and drones would be in the game in 2013 of something stupid like that. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood Rise Of Legion. 265	Posted - 2015.04.05 17:59:00 - [49] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: I know it sounds iffy but... Aim assist. Gun game went flying out the window. Lower TTK... And i wasn't here for it but leaving chromosome... People always talk how that was the best feel dust had... Chrome + Ratt + ppl before rouge wedding = perfect. Sooooo! I've come to the conclusion that the wedding was the worst... It made so many people leave dust... And now people are in fear that one day we'll just get abandoned or told "this is a beta" You really have no idea what you're talking about with aim assist, sorry. You're clearly just going off of what other people have said in a vain effort to establish your own opinion where you have none. I've made it clear i didn't know about chromosome, i even said i wasn't here for it... I also said the post sounds iffy too... I also said i came to the conclusion of The Wedding... I was here for that at least. And i do know... LR w/ aim assist is so much easier to use than LR w/o aim assist for example... More misses because YOU aren't as accurate as a computer. More misses = less shots hitting = less damage = longer TTK. i've experienced it first hand because I turned OFF aim assist and realize just how much harder aiming was. Entering the void and becoming wind. Message for 1v1 air to air
Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 366	Posted - 2015.04.05 18:36:00 - [50] - Quote Scotty

LOOKMOM NOHANDS 456	Posted - 2015.04.05 18:56:00 - [51] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? Scouts with combat rifles who magically take zero damage even tho their shields flare on every shot.
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 965	Posted - 2015.04.06 00:01:00 - [52] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP Jian Idk who was worse, him or CCP BLAM! Jian was probably responsible for hiring Blam. Oh god I hated CCP BLAM! He ruined vehicles
DarthJT5 Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 382	Posted - 2015.04.06 00:20:00 - [53] - Quote 1.7 was the WORST time for tankers.... Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta. Veteran Python Pilot for 1 year. The awnser is always XT missiles....
bathtubist TRUE SAVAGES Learning Alliance 80	Posted - 2015.04.06 00:42:00 - [54] - Quote Buffing of Re s
Indianna Pwns Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 85	Posted - 2015.04.06 00:43:00 - [55] - Quote JJ'S wrote: Indianna Pwns wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: I know it sounds iffy but... Aim assist. Gun game went flying out the window. Lower TTK... And i wasn't here for it but leaving chromosome... People always talk how that was the best feel dust had... Chrome + Ratt + ppl before rouge wedding = perfect. Sooooo! I've come to the conclusion that the wedding was the worst... It made so many people leave dust... And now people are in fear that one day we'll just get abandoned or told "this is a beta" Chromosome was good but not as great as people make it out to be, I think nostalgia is a big thing here. Chromosome had a version of aim assist as well, it was just a bit rubbish. The aiming on the DS3 was even worse than it is now. But at that point the game was fresh and new and had people excited for where the game could go. This is absolute bullshit. The people who come at Chromosome with the "Rose colored glasses" argument are full of ****. Go onto Youtube. AND WATCH.... The difference between the gameplay in Chromosome and the Gameplay of today? IS NIGHT AND DAY... The quality of fights and engagements and intensity offered in the Chromosome build makes this DUST 514 look like a CoD knock off. Sure they might be some pretty colored player skins now? But everything else largely has gone backwards... From balance to gameplay, to Frame rate to Hit detection to Server/client Updating to proxy server latency.. The game has got fluff at the expense of core mechanics. People who talk about rose colored glasses are often the people who remember the launch of Uprising.. Not Chromosome. OK bro, no need for the hostility don't your neckbeard in a twist! Nowhere did I say Chromosome was bad, in fact I agree with you that in many ways it felt better. However it's undeniable that there where issues with the build that people seem to have forgotten. Like I said when you have a nostalgic view on something you tend to remember the good things not the bad.
general drake55 Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2015.04.06 01:46:00 - [56] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? For me, it's cloaking devices. Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad or clear out a whole whole single handedly, yet today because cloaking devices (and other mechanics related to scouts) I see it often. Situation awareness used to be a thing, until CCP literally took it out of the game. There's no skill in being invisible. Cloaking devices never added anything of value to the game. It broke game balance so badly that it took months of buffs to other suit classes just to compete. If CCP would ever remove anything from Dust 514, I would want the cloaks to go away like black ops tanks did, and never come back. trolls,and cheaters,that's the main problem with playstion games,Microsoft bans cheaters,playstion does not,because each server for a particular game is hosted and owned by the company that makes that game,they just have to give their servers access to the pan,so its outside the jurisdiction of pan to ban players for cheating,at least that's my opinion anyway. fight for freedom and what's right,only you have the power to stop the madness.
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 234	Posted - 2015.04.06 03:21:00 - [57] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: DeathwindRising wrote: What would you consider the worst thing to happen to dust why? For me, it's cloaking devices. Back in beta, battles were alot more honest. NO ONE could charge straight at an enemy squad or clear out a whole whole single handedly, yet today because cloaking devices (and other mechanics related to scouts) I see it often. Situation awareness used to be a thing, until CCP literally took it out of the game. There's no skill in being invisible. Cloaking devices never added anything of value to the game. It broke game balance so badly that it took months of buffs to other suit classes just to compete. If CCP would ever remove anything from Dust 514, I would want the cloaks to go away like black ops tanks did, and never come back. Same as the cloak users complaining that the cloaks were nerfed too hard, you are swinging way too far in the opposite direction. Cloaking devices were meant to give Scout suits the ability to safely cross open terrain with no cover which they used to have issues with. People using them as GOTCHA bullshit was part of why the CPM was so insistent on not going with CCP's original concept, which would have had NO movement shimmer whatsoever. Its still pretty good, and is pretty well used for ambushing. Just hide, cloak, wait for the target to pass by, pull out you gun, and you can still kill them before they can react to the cloak deactivation noise. Gallente-Fu Grand Master Gallente Federation Patriot
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11439	Posted - 2015.04.06 03:27:00 - [58] - Quote Oh dear god, I don't know where to begin. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11439	Posted - 2015.04.06 03:29:00 - [59] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Brandon Laurino. Can't remember his CCP name. Was the dude who went up on stage at Fanfest 2013 and was like, "MTACs! Weapons! Vehicles! Titan insertion! Drones! All coming to you SoonNotTM!" Yeah. That guy set in motion an expectation that would never and could never be matched. Clearly you never heard of Reggie Fils-Aime. He's the one who innovated the hype train. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Minion Max Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 35	Posted - 2015.04.06 04:22:00 - [60] - Quote Every Hotfix, Patch and Update over the last 2 years. Now it is to the point of why bother having different Levels on suits and Guns. Throw a cloak or shotgun on a starter fit and mow down Proto heavys. Heat buildup in 3,2,1. Hit % on the other side building or invisible walls. Not being able to deploy what you carry due to bandwidth, deleted my Logi due to this. I did like taking out a tank with a Flaylock with help from a Bolt pistol, thanks Hotfix Echo. Solo Sniper and No Taxes, Semper Fi. Cpl, 87-95



Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page