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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4302
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Posted - 2015.04.04 11:14:00 -
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I like to play alone sometime, no mic, if you decide to snipe nobody will ask you anything, no rules for you. Do you play the game purposely on your own?
Because i find it very hard to not receive at least a squad invite when i log in, even without asking for it.
If so, why then you all complain that the game is unplayble for solo, if you don't want to squad up by your decision, in a game that is clearly team oriented?
Pimp my Barge
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Vyzion Eyri
WarRavens
2765
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Posted - 2015.04.04 11:23:00 -
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I've been playing alone recently because I've been playing with dropsuits that don't really involve much teamwork. Shotgun scout, sniper scout, just messing around and generally enjoying trying out new things. When I get into a squad I feel obliged to do well, essentially I feel guilty if I'm not pulling my weight and we're losing games because of it. Lone wolfing lets me get away from that responsibility, I suppose.
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
2196
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Posted - 2015.04.04 11:25:00 -
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Would you want to squad with myth tanker? I can get you in a squad with myth tanker.
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: LEGION
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Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
3623
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Posted - 2015.04.04 11:36:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:why then you all complain that the game is unplayble for solo, if you don't want to squad up by your decision, in a game that is clearly team oriented? Few possibilities:
1. The person that plays alone is not in a corporation or doesn't really know anyone. 2. The person just wants to do a quick game without sitting a channel doing LFS. 3. The person might play solo but then not complain about being solo. 4. The person might only have time for one or two games so getting into a squad is pointless. 5. The person may like the idea of being solo. "Top performer that round and I didn't even have a squad." 6. The person may not have any corp mates online. 7. The person may not want to have to talk to deal with anyone.
The flaw in your statement is that you assume that not being in a squad is the person's choice and that they complain about the solo player. It ends up framing people into a specific position while there are many other possibilities.
I play alone usually. I bounce around a lot. I'll do a game of DUST, hop over to another game, type out e-mails, YouTube, etc. Having a squad generally means having to chain games as they are usually not open to the idea of "hold on guys, I want to catch up on my AGDQ." So, for me, I guess you can put in 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4302
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Posted - 2015.04.04 12:11:00 -
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Quote the whole post. I play aone sometime for some of the reasons you have pointed, i'm asking why some people play alone on purpose and then whine about that solo play is too difficult?
There is a plenty of possibility to squad with other players, IF YOU WANT TO.
Pimp my Barge
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
1977
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Posted - 2015.04.04 12:15:00 -
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People cry. It's human nature.
Crush them
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5586
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Posted - 2015.04.04 12:15:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I like to play alone sometime, no mic, if you decide to snipe nobody will ask you anything, no rules for you. Do you play the game purposely on your own?
Because i find it very hard to not receive at least a squad invite when i log in, even without asking for it.
If so, why then you all complain that the game is unplayble for solo, if you don't want to squad up by your decision, in a game that is clearly team oriented?
I choose to play a game in which I am surrounded by people not so that I can socialize with them, but so that I can murder them in a widespread and efficient manner.
Usually banned for being too awesome.
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3233
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Posted - 2015.04.04 12:31:00 -
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Most everyone in this game is of a personality type that I can't bear socially long enough to gain what meager benefits might arise from enduring listening to their drivel.
I can tactically and strategically help my team without having to put up with the nonsense that squads bring.
In general, squads are only good for stomp, and that is being winnowed out as we progress in game design, thank God.
KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
1977
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Posted - 2015.04.04 12:32:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Most everyone in this game is of a personality type that I can't bear socially long enough to gain what meager benefits might arise from enduring listening to their drivel.
I can tactically and strategically help my team without having to put up with the nonsense that squads bring.
You are a driveler.
Crush them
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3233
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Posted - 2015.04.04 12:34:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Most everyone in this game is of a personality type that I can't bear socially long enough to gain what meager benefits might arise from enduring listening to their drivel.
I can tactically and strategically help my team without having to put up with the nonsense that squads bring. You are a driveler. You should never squad with me, then. Saved you that agony.
KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
2540
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Posted - 2015.04.04 12:43:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Because i find it very hard to not receive at least a squad invite when i log in, even without asking for it. Ooooh, aren't we the popular one!
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
I'm a monster
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3234
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Posted - 2015.04.04 12:52:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:shaman oga wrote:Because i find it very hard to not receive at least a squad invite when i log in, even without asking for it. Ooooh, aren't we the popular one! Probably cuz leet skilz.
KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
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Mregomies
Beer For Evil Mercs
369
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Posted - 2015.04.04 13:00:00 -
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I don't have any, I really mean no one, in my corp so that is the reason I mostly run solo. I have only 1 chat channel, rainbow office, where I can squad up.
Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
Logibro
Logibro2
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VALCORE72
Dead Man's Game RUST415
260
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Posted - 2015.04.04 13:08:00 -
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i like running solo alot .this new mm has made it a tad easyer too. solo is just fun when you go pos in a match and your team all goes neg lol give a sh'it less even if i lose 20 proto suits . as long as it was fun who cares
asian haters united lol .
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
991
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Posted - 2015.04.04 13:10:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I like to play alone sometime, no mic, if you decide to snipe nobody will ask you anything, no rules for you. Do you play the game purposely on your own?
Because i find it very hard to not receive at least a squad invite when i log in, even without asking for it.
If so, why then you all complain that the game is unplayble for solo, if you don't want to squad up by your decision, in a game that is clearly team oriented?
1. Have run solo 90% of the time since closed beta.
2. I don't play games back to back, and im usually doing 'other stuff' at the same time, even when I do have the time to sit and play a few games in a row, I like to stop and roll a smoke every now and then.
3. Not fighting my own squad for kills - yes, not only do I mainly play solo 90% of my time has been spent in ambush. Running with another 5 70mil+ vets in ambush is a pain in the ass for assists. My kills dammit!!!
4. I also find i play totally differently. When in a squad I actually tend to die more. At least solo I know who has my back.
Have never complained game has been unplayable solo. I hardened the **** up a long time ago. Various aspects of this game have been ruined by those that haven't IMHO
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6938
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Posted - 2015.04.04 13:14:00 -
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I've never complained that it is unplayable solo since that is far from the truth. |
Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2635
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Posted - 2015.04.04 13:22:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I like to play alone sometime, no mic, if you decide to snipe nobody will ask you anything, no rules for you. Do you play the game purposely on your own?
Because i find it very hard to not receive at least a squad invite when i log in, even without asking for it.
If so, why then you all complain that the game is unplayble for solo, if you don't want to squad up by your decision, in a game that is clearly team oriented? I agree. There's so many great groups of players in this game it's hard not find good squads to run with.
I've been essentially solo for 2 years now, mostly as a training exercise. Running solo in Dust really helps a merc learn his chops in many different areas of the game. Furthermore, if you foolishly go looking for trouble and then try to do your best when you find it, it will gradually, painfully force you to up your game. But be careful, 'merc who has himself for a teacher has a fool for a student....' =p
With the new MM life as a lone wolf has gotten much rougher, but there are surprising inconsistencies. One day stomped negative kdr for 8 consecutive losses, next day top of the leader boards with wins. Haven't figured that out yet, tbh.
The welcome challenge that the MM is bringing us will prolly cause lone wolves to actually squad up more and *gasp* turn on their mikes every now and then ;)
PSN: RationalSpark
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Foo Fighting
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
232
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Posted - 2015.04.04 13:55:00 -
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I lone wolf a lot for many reasons:
I like to play whichever role I feel like or I feel the team needs - the only thing I don't/won't and can't do is drive tanks. I like to play at my own schedule eg. play a match, take a coffee, play a match, have a smoke, play a match, surf the web - playing more than 3 games in a row is rare for me. I like to collect rare gear so I may spend matches going for specific missions eg. trying to get kill assists to win a key or destroying installations to the same end. I often play during the day when I'm supposed to be working and sometimes need to quit to take a work call. I left my corp to avoid the pressure to squad and play to their ends. I'm a middle aged guy with other responsibilities that drag me away from the game, so I'm very often logged in but afk which seems to upset some people in corps. I find it easier to get in the zone without the distractions of squad chatter. I have never complained about how difficult it is to solo - although I would like a solo gamemode.
As an aside the new matchmaking (when it works) has reduced my wp per match but improved my w/l ratio a lot - previously 70% of my matches I was against a squad of Prima Gallicus, DMG or some other EU corp and farming wp from dumb blues was how many matches turned out.
I do squad whe it suits me and I can dedicate a few hours but most games I'm solo. |
Alex-ZX
Valor Coalition
292
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Posted - 2015.04.04 13:56:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I like to play alone sometime, no mic, if you decide to snipe nobody will ask you anything, no rules for you. Do you play the game purposely on your own?
Because i find it very hard to not receive at least a squad invite when i log in, even without asking for it.
If so, why then you all complain that the game is unplayble for solo, if you don't want to squad up by your decision, in a game that is clearly team oriented?
Most of the time I play in my own
It isn't hard when you get used to it. But first you have to know until which point one is able to reach and who is your enemy, depending on that, I chose suit and weapon.
There is never a time to say "it is unplayable" it is fully up to one, for example: sometimes I see some good players in the another side and my blueberries sux, so I do not go for the victory, I just go to get kills, to annoy the enemy.
But sometimes I decided to help the bluedots to win the game, just if I see that they push the enemy, if they don't, it is just a waist of my time trying to help them, because sometimes they push, but at the first loss of the point or position they quit, so I have to change once again tactics and think what I'm going to do.
Playing solo was my own decision, when I get online usually like 3 or 5 ppl ask me if I want to play in sqd but I always want to play solo, just if I'm going to play FW or I want to stomp the enemy I jump in a squad.
It is up to everyone, I prefer to do the things in my own way, I have fun by playing solo, is it easy most of the time? No. does it worth? If properly played you can afford proto 24/7. How is your kdr? I can keep it above 5 without issues.
*Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG
Luis' modified VC-107 CR
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7835
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:02:00 -
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First rule of solo play:
You are going to die. Constantly. Shelf your epeen at the door and run cheap and aggressive.
Risk averse behavior is neither fun nor effective because the instant you refuse to present a good fight (only sniping, using nothing but RE) people will HUNT YOU.
If they're fighting you they aren't actively trying to ruin tge game for you.
And I don't respond to invites unless I have confirmed they aren't terminal dipsh**s
AV
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
532
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:21:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I like to play alone sometime, no mic, if you decide to snipe nobody will ask you anything, no rules for you. Do you play the game purposely on your own?
Because i find it very hard to not receive at least a squad invite when i log in, even without asking for it.
If so, why then do you all complain that the game is unplayable for solo, if you don't want to squad up by your decision, in a game that is clearly team oriented?
You are in a PC corp and in an alliance, which also means you most likely have access to a few other chats such as Corp Pubs, PC chats, and Elite FW chats.
I would find it hilarious if you DIDN'T get invites when you logged in broseph...
As far as solo players go...
I play solo all the time, I also run squads quite often.
I run solo if I have to be in a chat, but still want to grind my player.
In this way my squad doesn't suffer from a semi-afk player that may or may not get kicked for idling.
Many others simply don't like your face, your momma and hates your favorite color.
Anti-social people that want to play an FPS but cannot get along with others well.
There are even those that have a limited time to play, from 30 minutes to 2 hours and want to spend ALL OF IT in match.
They don't want to back out for someone that joined the squad late, sit around while the squad leader argues with a family member, or makes a sandwich.
Many others... simply haven't made any friends yet.
They complain about squads beating their ass because that is what squads do... and it sucks sometimes.
People get frustrated, even if it is partly their own fault...
http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
3627
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:35:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Quote the whole post. I play aone sometime for some of the reasons you have pointed, i'm asking why some people play alone on purpose and then whine about that solo play is too difficult?
There is a plenty of possibility to squad with other players, IF YOU WANT TO. My lack of quoting the rest doesn't change too much. It is still pushing people as a "Do you purposefully play alone? Then why do you complain." I understand that you also play alone and it is nice to see that I was fairly close with some of the possibilities. But, yes, I probably should have just quoted the whole post as using an excerpt makes it seem like I am trying to attack you or your statement rather than merely disagreeing with the premise.
The best answer to the question of "Why do people choose to play alone and then complain that the game is unfavored to the solo player?" that I can think of: "Why should it be unfavored to the solo player? Sure it is a team game but why can't I use my WP at all if I am not in a Squad? It isn't even a discussion of 'teamwork yields better results' but a 'why am I crippled just because I don't have a Squad?' Should the game be balanced in such a way that 4 people playing well and playing together can completely route 16 random players?"
Some people might have legitimate complaints. To those that don't and are just griping, well, it is pretty much why the internet exists: to b**** about stuff.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
299
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:35:00 -
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I've recently started squadding again, after playing solo for the better part of a year.
It can be safely said that I make more ISK and SP faster playing solo.
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1196
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:41:00 -
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Because I don't want to hear mouth breathers eating chips while their wife yells at them because the baby is screaming.
/Faceplam
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
3628
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Posted - 2015.04.04 15:04:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Because I don't want to hear mouth breathers eating chips while their wife yells at them because the baby is screaming. That is an undershirt and drugs on the table away from being an episode of Cops.
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
1016
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Posted - 2015.04.04 16:05:00 -
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I am what i'd call a lonewolf leech. I que up solo , and if I see an open squad thats mostly full I will join it for that match , but rarely do unless it's for FW. However I chase other people around throwing equipment at them and repairing them, ..and jumping in front of guns occasionally..because I suck. I pick nobody in particular, I just run everywhere and stick with a small group for a couple minutes and move on to the next area. I don't have to deal with waiting for a full squad to form, don't have to be on coms, and I have no schedule to follow... but I make pretty dar good isk and rack up WP, so it's all good for me. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
1016
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Posted - 2015.04.04 16:07:00 -
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oh , and to answer your question. I never complain about solo being hard.. it's a choice anyhow. |
knight guard fury
Carbon 7
1593
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Posted - 2015.04.04 16:23:00 -
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I play alone because...
1. My team are my "squad". Whether noobs or vets or the in betweens. 2. I play on and off consistently so I wouldn't want my squad thinking I'm an AFK'er at times. 3. I have skill and don't use expensive gear all the time and even when I do I can pay it off when lost it. 4. I'll tag along with other players and stick to them as a team. 5. I am short on time and only play a few matches 6. I don't want to squad with anyone 7. I have friends and such but do better as a lone wolf or not in the mood 8. I've never complained about solo gameplay
These are just a few reasons for me. I have many more and it all depends on the circumstances
Warrior of the tribal republic
Serious matari loyalist and RP'er
All mental thoughts are of my own
Winmatar
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knight guard fury
Carbon 7
1593
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Posted - 2015.04.04 16:26:00 -
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IMO there are only 2 types of solo players. (In regards to gameplay) The ones who like playing only for themselves and the ones who lone wolf but still play with the team
Warrior of the tribal republic
Serious matari loyalist and RP'er
All mental thoughts are of my own
Winmatar
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byte modal
183
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Posted - 2015.04.04 16:50:00 -
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Not for nothing, but who's complaining? I mean, seems like the whole point of your OP. So... hm?
The first reply pretty much negates all assumptions.
-me. Solo player since CB. Oh, and having fun doing it.
kitten bacon taco (nom)
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