I've been wandering about this. Assuming you don't have enough organisation to get 6 in a dropship to the objective at the start, is it better in domination to get to the point as fast as possible, arriving piecemeal? Or is it best to give up the initial hack in favour of arriving in force and hopefully overwhelming the enemy?

Getting to the point unsupported can be pretty risky.

It actually happens three or four times a day to me. People that just do nothing. Seriously, nothing., they refuse to fight since the beginning.

KD/R caring, ISK caring, "reputation" (?) caring. What the hell guys... it's a game. And a game is meant to be played. And it is an FPS, where, you know, you shoot at things. It's unbelievable how much many Dust 514 players cares about their "precious" stats.

Faking your stats won't make you a better player, just saying.

Remember: If an objective seems to be undefended, you can bet your ass that there's a squad of Shotgun Scouts lurking nearby...

LAV is faster than a scout... On a bigger map, it's safe to hack it. You'll hear if another LAV is coming.

the Dom games I've been in where actually quite nice...

Pretty close, I lost shitloads of ISK, but really fun.

I had one ambush where the enemy side was nearly empty, but I left and deselected ambush.

I think in the higher tier matches, there are a lot of people, who where running expensive suits in the past, and do not have the ISK pool to even run good advanced fits for too long in a meatgrinder match.

I had one, where I went 20/12/16 and my payout was about 400k. This was one of the most fun games of this day, but I went all in, running solid advanced fits for the whole match, and I lost more than I gained in that one. So I think your point in giving us a better payout is not unreasonable...

In other words our playerbase isn't good enough for a matchmaking system.

People don't fight. This matchmaking system is ******* garbage because of the absolute **** players. why the **** do you people turn on an FPS and not ******* fight?

I do want to play against good players. But I don't want 16 vs 6 and 10 shitberries.

Protip. If you play domination, getting to the point fast is key. Defense is easier than offense.

FFS raise the ISK payout. Do something to get these people to participate in your ******* game.

True, if you took an LAV, it might be safe to hack. I normally just run in my Scout though. A lot of Dom objectives aren't far away enough to make calling in an LAV worth it. Some maps are simply impractical i.e. the train map. I'd probably attempt an early hack though if I took an LAV to the bridge map; that's only because I'm a Minja with max hacking skill though!

People don't fight. This matchmaking system is ******* garbage because of the absolute **** players. why the **** do you people turn on an FPS and not ******* fight?

I do want to play against good players. But I don't want 16 vs 6 and 10 shitberries.

Protip. If you play domination, getting to the point fast is key. Defense is easier than offense.

FFS raise the ISK payout. Do something to get these people to participate in your ******* game.

What if those players you're complaining about are never going to participate regardless of the incentive?

I think that's impossible. Incentives drive behavior.

Oh it's possible alright. Otherwise, AFKers wouldn't exist. No one puts in more effort to do absolutely nothing in a match than an AFKer or ALT farmer.

But I'm supposed to be going against vets.

Do you not understand what's going on? It's not noobs getting picked on, it's vets not fighting.

In my experience, the worst thing you can do when you arrive at the objective at the start of a Dom is to try to hack the point. The guy that does this is usually the first to die. Try to hack CRU's, put down Links, and intercept any incoming oblivious redberries before attempting to hack the point.

Remember: If an objective seems to be undefended, you can bet your ass that there's a squad of Shotgun Scouts lurking nearby...

Tho risk aversion, social status whoring and fragile ego are human externals, I'm thinking the proclivity not to fight was spawned and carefully nurtured in vets by our own CCP.

The passive in-match skillpoints were a poison that worked it's way into the mentality of the vets(it should now be removed from noobs because matchmaking).

The laughable anti-AFK measures that were 'overlooked' for years. Still are, afaik.

The lack of a differential payout mechanic for WP/sp that rewards a 100,000,000 sp vet in full officer gear and squadded with 5 similar monsters the exact same WP for killing a noob as it rewards a noob in a starter medic fit for killing that vet. In an mmo with a deeply asymmetric playing field.

A New Eden contract 'system' that was really, truly all warm and fuzzy on the inside. Can you imagine the Serpentis contract manager saying 'Oh, i'm sorry little merc, is the battle making you feel uncomfortable? Well that's ok, don't you worry just come over here and have a sit-down and a nice cuppa tea. No need to fret about these things because we'll still pay you when all the hubbub dies down.' The serpentis i know would throw that poor merc in a vat of nanite goo and fish out his implant later - there's good money in implants.

An endless supply of New Eden corporations willing to employ serial contract breakers.

A nice 'Redline Lounge' where players can entertain and amuse themselves, or just take a nap if they're feeling sleepy while their teammates fight, die and are bankrupted by impossible odds.

So CCP negligence/game design has served to compounded what is least admirable in human nature. Perhaps the answer is those mercs are spoiled goods now and they just need to die and new blood take their place.

I hope not, tbh, would much rather keep the vets. Some better student of human nature will have to solve this problem.

Whats so great about Minjas

Its all about the Calscouts

Scouts=Best dropsuits ever made

Because they have the hack bonus.