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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.03.31 05:27:00 -
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Expecting everyone to intuitively follow the math is unfortunately an unreasonable expectation especially in nations where education is invariably the first thing bled out when it comes time for budget cuts (my country).
Some people who are otherwise brilliant at most other aspects of life just don't get math.
AV
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.31 05:37:00 -
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Take a small number (for example, the entire playerbase).
Now cut into small pieces (tiers).
Now enjoy your game playing almost nobody.
Yay, I did math.
Usually banned for being too awesome.
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.03.31 06:01:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:There is a reason matchmaking is being worked on first. Meta level lockout for me is a choice for me to say "low risk low reward", choose a low metalevel bracket (low sec if academy is high sec), and free for all is 0.0 with Planetary Conquest.
Meta level lockout as designed was a sum of all fittings approach, not "STD gear only" approach, also for a reason. matchmaking is being worked on? I hope this is ping based and not stat based. lagging/region jumping POSs should only be able to play themselves. The playerbase is not large enough for stats to be made a priority at the moment
CPMs should stop acting like they have power and remember their true position. Scapegoats for CCP
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.03.31 20:31:00 -
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The Dark Cloud wrote:Just a hint for all those meta lockout fanatics. You think that your apex suit would get away with it? Sorry to burst your bubble but when you take a actual look at your fitting what comes into your mind? Sure all modules are STD lvl but they are all AUR modules and do you know what STD AUR modules have as a meta lvl? They all have the same meta lvl like ADV ISK modules.
Because all modules are basically treated like if they where ADV modules/weapons/equipment all apex suits are in theory proto suits with full ADV stuff fitted in terms of meta lvl. If we would for example all agree on a max meta lvl of 25 then not even a single apex suit could be used in a pub match.
So hows meta lvl beeing calculated? Its quite simple all modules, equipment and weapons have a meta lvl. The summary of everything from your suit is the meta lvl which is most likely to be used when this is happening. For those who are too lazy to calculate every module etc. for your apex sut just go to the market and check the visual costumisations category. There you scroll down till you find your apex suit and then its listed next to PG/CPU.
For example the cal. logi apex suit has a meta lvl of 50. With 50 i could make a advanced suit fully fit with most proto stuff. The reason why that suit has such a high lvl is due to the fact that all slots on apex suits are fitted. And because that suit has 5 high, 4 low, 3 equipment, 1 light weapon and 1 grenade means all 14 slots are stuffed with AUR modules.
Im really curious how CCP wants to adress this cause otherwise ALOT of people will get VERY mad.On a side note the lowest meta lvl has the minmatarr commando "renegade" with 27. Why does AUR items have higher meta? Because you can use them before being skilled in them. Why does APEX suits use AUR items? For the same reason you don't have to have ANY skill to use them. Fix the meta so it is only higher if your not skilled in the item problem solved for all.
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Loyal Glasses
G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.31 21:39:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:There is a reason matchmaking is being worked on first. Meta level lockout for me is a choice for me to say "low risk low reward", choose a low metalevel bracket (low sec if academy is high sec), and free for all is 0.0 with Planetary Conquest.
Meta level lockout as designed was a sum of all fittings approach, not "STD gear only" approach, also for a reason. It will segregate your game, and kill your game. Fast. Your player base simply can't support multiple tiers like that. If you feel its necessary to limit proto suits to FW/PC only, go nuts. We're going to stomp on pub scrubs regardless, and it will accomplish nothing other than taking away freedom. "Protostomping" is a scapegoat for bad players being bad, and no matter what you do they will always be whiny victims getting stomped on. This won't please any of them because they will still be getting torn apart. It will, however, **** off the veterans. So have fun with that flawed ideology. HA HA HA HA HA HA! Of course this is going to help the game. The majority of "Proto stompers" do just that stomp in proto suits its a crutch that no skill groups use on a daily basis and if they try doing that in an all std suit setting they are going to lose many suits due to a lower module count and lower weapon lvls.
Glasses of the Loyal Variety
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The dark cloud
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.03.31 23:35:00 -
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Loyal Glasses wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:There is a reason matchmaking is being worked on first. Meta level lockout for me is a choice for me to say "low risk low reward", choose a low metalevel bracket (low sec if academy is high sec), and free for all is 0.0 with Planetary Conquest.
Meta level lockout as designed was a sum of all fittings approach, not "STD gear only" approach, also for a reason. It will segregate your game, and kill your game. Fast. Your player base simply can't support multiple tiers like that. If you feel its necessary to limit proto suits to FW/PC only, go nuts. We're going to stomp on pub scrubs regardless, and it will accomplish nothing other than taking away freedom. "Protostomping" is a scapegoat for bad players being bad, and no matter what you do they will always be whiny victims getting stomped on. This won't please any of them because they will still be getting torn apart. It will, however, **** off the veterans. So have fun with that flawed ideology. HA HA HA HA HA HA! Of course this is going to help the game. The majority of "Proto stompers" do just that stomp in proto suits its a crutch that no skill groups use on a daily basis and if they try doing that in an all std suit setting they are going to lose many suits due to a lower module count and lower weapon lvls. Not really a crutch cause there are way too many people with crap fits or no modules at all on their suits. Ya know the guys who have barely 400HP on their assault suits.
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.04.01 13:56:00 -
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Playing up until retardi put Super Mario Bros in the game, I noticed that although proto squads happen, it really wasnt stomping. Sure they might win the match, but when they have decent latency they still die. When server-jumping/high-latency situations stack on top of the proto squads it makes those squad seem invincible. So CCP Rattati/Retardi(whatever), if you want to earn back respect through matchmaking it MUST be done with PING being the primary factor. you can do whatever the hell you want AFTER this necessity is acquired. The proto stomping was truly few and far between, its the LAG-STOMPING that is the issue.
CPMs should stop acting like they have power and remember their true position. Scapegoats for CCP
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